MTG Salvation

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Xyre changed his avatar...is it the apocalypse already?

I felt obligated after this.

You can't penalize someone for using the Ignore function because that function is just a formality. If one player wants to ignore another player, they are going to do so, and nothing can be done about it. It's up to the town to decide why Player A is choosing to ignore Player B. If doing so is scummy in the context of the game, then the playerbase should do something about it.

In the context, seppel made a point of going as far as copying the text that replaces an ignored post. There's passive aggressive behaviour and then there's rubbing the fact that you've ignored someone in their face.

As irritating as it might be, I still don't think it's worth punishment. Again, I am pretty sure Shalako used to do something similar.

I'll defer to your experience and judgement then. Thanks.

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As irritating as it might be, I still don't think it's worth punishment. Again, I am pretty sure Shalako used to do something similar.

Just because it was done before without repercussions doesn't mean it's correct nowadays. That being said I don't think it's a big issue, however it is in bad taste and I would expect more from a vet but whatever.

Maybe we should implement a Vote To Replace rule. 2/3 majority vote gets the player replaced.

Hm.

I get the concept, but I generally think replacements should be at the moderator's discretion.

Seems too easy to manipulate the replace vote for scum, or cite it as OOG reasoning 'He was trying to get rid of a strong player that has since flipped town', etc.

The way I've always seen it, players play the game at the mod's discretion. If a player is poisonous, it's the mod's responsibility to recognize that fact (usually as people complain about him) and act accordingly. There's no need to make it so formalized; if people hate the guy, get rid of him.

Sorry, Fade; but I'm not a fan of that idea at all for a multitude of reasons. I'll expound if it's necessary, but I can't imagine this gaining much traction.

On Xyre's point though, the mod is not likely to remove a player like Rodemy even if the majority of the players would want him gone.

What DYH said.

Why is that a problem, Asenion?

Sorry fade but this is one of the worst ideas in a long time. Come on now.

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What DYH said.

Why is that a problem, Asenion?

I'm not suggesting it is.

If a player is toxic enough to the health of the game, the moderator can (and probably should) forcibly replace them. Feedback from other players privately can be taken into consideration, as well as from reviewers/spectators.

I'd probably say that replacements for game health need to be more frequent from a player enjoyment perspective, not necessarily inactivity alone.

Sorry, it wasn't actually a serious suggestion.

Just personal feelings sometimes that I wish certain players would be replaced.

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Sorry, it wasn't actually a serious suggestion.

Just personal feelings sometimes that I wish certain players would be replaced.

That creates serious hurt feelings and bad blood very quickly though.

Mods are pretty well able to tell when something is going wrong. I see no reason to put bad blood into this.

It's not a horrible idea per say. I know quite a few games (not mafia, other video game) where people would love this. However, the difference is that normally, the player you vote off, you never see again. We all know each other (relatively), and would create a ton of bad blood.

Plus, some of us have real names, and I don't want to be known as John Andreotti, that dickhole who kicked player X from his game. =p

Is there a different color than the current one that can be used for the PCQ tag, because it took me a minute to realize that the color was different than the mini tag.

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Now that Majora's Mask fired I remembered something offhand from the BSG spc chat. Is having three "special" games -- CCM, Modfia, and PCQ (soon to be four with Cross-Town?) -- at once too much? Should the PCQ slot be for one miscellaneous game at a time (or maybe capped at two)?

This is also less relevant now that Smalltown filled up with no difficulty. At the time Pornstar was stuck in signups.

EDIT: Although I'm quite enjoying the rainbow on page 1 of the sub.

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Is there a different color than the current one that can be used for the PCQ tag, because it took me a minute to realize that the color was different than the mini tag.

We can set the colour to any hex colour code. Hopefully any colour chosen would also be readable on every skin.

Do you have a suggestion for a different colour?

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Is there a different color than the current one that can be used for the PCQ tag, because it took me a minute to realize that the color was different than the mini tag.

We can set the colour to any hex colour code. Hopefully any colour chosen would also be readable on every skin.

Do you have a suggestion for a different colour?

Hex code: 669900

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Is there a different color than the current one that can be used for the PCQ tag, because it took me a minute to realize that the color was different than the mini tag.

We can set the colour to any hex colour code. Hopefully any colour chosen would also be readable on every skin.

Do you have a suggestion for a different colour?

Would lime green work? Not sure if it's readable on green skin.

In related news, the current FTQ color is nearly impossible to see on the dark skin. Maybe something brownish would work better? Or gold (not sure if gold would work on the normal theme - if it does, it fits the rainbow colors nicely)?

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Is there a different color than the current one that can be used for the PCQ tag, because it took me a minute to realize that the color was different than the mini tag.

We can set the colour to any hex colour code. Hopefully any colour chosen would also be readable on every skin.

Do you have a suggestion for a different colour?

Would lime green work? Not sure if it's readable on green skin.

In related news, the current FTQ color is nearly impossible to see on the dark skin. Maybe something brownish would work better? Or gold (not sure if gold would work on the normal theme - if it does, it fits the rainbow colors nicely)?

Lime and gold are way too hard to read on the default skin (all tags need at the very least to work on default, but ideally they'd work on all. The brown might work, but I could see it being pretty rough on the red skin.

Guardman's was a muted green.

Edit: Also, please make sure you make suggestions with the hex code. We need to code the prefixes in HTML, and I don't want to find that we finally got something we all like and then be forced to manually colour match or dig through the page code.

That's fine with me considering the slow pace of signups; my primary concern is allowing others to play if they wish, but there doesn't seem to be an overwhelming demand for this PCQ game, which is somewhat unusual.

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there doesn't seem to be an overwhelming demand for this PCQ game, which is somewhat unusual.

This is my reason for requesting Generic to come on over to this thread. Thank you, Asian!

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This looks fantastic!

Unfortunately, I have installed it, and it seems to be looking for a file that was not properly installed. Has anyone else had trouble with the app?

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This is old, but this is how you fix it. Install both for 64 bit OS.

Due to some major issues at home I will be going hiatus until further notice.

Since the Normal queue is low (3 games) and the Mini queue is dangerously low (3 games, but effectively fewer from what I've seen), should the queue rules be [temporarily/permanently] changed? Namely to allow hosts to sign up for both a Normal and a Mini. For example, making the hosting limit one simple game (Basic/Normal) and one complex game (Mini/Specialty), or one small game (Basic/Mini) and one large game (Normal/Specialty). As it is there's a bottleneck in Basics.

Shouldn't there be oodles of games ready to fire from the design contest?

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Shouldn't there be oodles of games ready to fire from the design contest?

If by "oodles of games" you mean "oodles of Specialties", then yes. But somehow I don't think we want, say, Mind Screw Salvation (an extremely complex 21-player game) firing in the Normal or Mini queues.

I'll probably be helping with that soon - I've been planning to add a Mini to the queue for a while (I'll try to FTQ Mind Screw Salvation either now or after the next FTQ runs, probably the latter for time reasons) - but one new game isn't enough!

(Also... should we be as worried about this when the Queue has been backed up with no signups running for TWO WEEKS? I'm getting a little miffed - I'm in no games at the moment and all the recent replacement needs have either been filled before I got there or were in my own game. )

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Also, as long as I'm here - I'd like to sign up as a reviewer here (any game size/type). I used to review on MafiaScum fairly often (examples that come to mind: Mushroom Kingdom on 'Scum, Choose Carefully on 'Scum (not my best review work, admittedly),) might as well continue the tradition.

I think we may be overloaded with games Tar(we have like three extra games running), considering the few last signups I expect the next game to be very slow to fill. Therefore I think it's wise to finish a couple more games before starting a new one.

ganderin_dan and Tanarin told me they would post their sign-ups. I've been waiting on them. Since they've taken so long I gave Toastboy the green light to post his sign-ups.

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Shouldn't there be oodles of games ready to fire from the design contest?

The only Mini-size games were from Megiddo (on the Normal queue) and Prophylaxis (currently running a Mini).

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(Also... should we be as worried about this when the Queue has been backed up with no signups running for TWO WEEKS? I'm getting a little miffed - I'm in no games at the moment and all the recent replacement needs have either been filled before I got there or were in my own game. )

I'm talking about the problem mid-term/long-term, not short-term. Even the Mini queue will probably last through the end of the year as it is now.

Well then I think at least temporarily that anyone who wants to host more games should be able to, until more games show up.

I will begin work on my mini tonight, certainly, so I can try to help the queue keep moving in the meantime.

I suggested this a while ago but Az shot it down in favor of running the Design Contest.

Ghosting was Nakamura and has been banned for his Mafia evasion ban.

Ghosting needs to be replaced for any games that he may have been in.

How did people find out?

Magic.

Also will Naka never give up?

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How did people find out?

Currently Suspended/Banned Members thread in CI.

In the world there are few universal constants. One of those is Naka trying to evade his ban.

Now I don't feel as bad for Ghosting coming in and seemingly being much better than I from the jump.

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In the world there are few universal constants. One of those is Naka trying to evade his ban.

Between him and kroen, I dunno who is worse TBH.

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Ghosting was Nakamura and has been banned for his Mafia evasion ban.

Ghosting needs to be replaced for any games that he may have been in.

I'm looking for a replacement in TMNT for him. Is his ban forever? He had 712 posts and had been in a few games without issues.

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Ghosting was Nakamura and has been banned for his Mafia evasion ban.

Ghosting needs to be replaced for any games that he may have been in.

I'm looking for a replacement in TMNT for him. Is his ban forever? He had 712 posts and had been in a few games without issues.

Ban for 6 months and then an appeal may be made.

However, as previously discussed Re: Nakamura, Nakamura will not be removed from the Blacklist until hell freezes over or something like that.

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How did people find out?

The evidence was pretty overwhelming.

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How did people find out?

The evidence was pretty overwhelming.

As it was with Burstatrix or whatever the last gimmick was that got banned.

Huh. I guess I don't follow it too much.