Right now, I'm currently looking for a job and an apartment. I'm considering buying myself a home defense weapon (probably a handgun or shotgun) and a fire-proof safe to keep personal documents and hard cash in. You know, once I get my own place.
Why? Because I don't like the way the world is going. I don't feel like I can trust the banks to hold my money and I don't think I can trust people to not try to rob my house if things start to go bad. My girlfriend is moving in with me when I get an apartment and I feel like I need to be able to protect her.
I've thought this is a good idea, but just now I'm wondering if I'm just paranoid. So, does my logic have any semblance of rationality to it or am I completely overreacting?
IMFO, you're being paranoid. I'm guessing you are american. The rest of the world doesn't own guns as readily as the US and I feel quite safe without, maybe try it for a bit and get a gun if you still feel that way after? Just taking a gun in without testing it the other way seems to be pushing the world in the wrong direction.
It largely depends on where you live. If you're comfortable with telling us, where do you live? City and the area within the city are important factors.
IMFO, you're being paranoid. I'm guessing you are american. The rest of the world doesn't own guns as readily as the US and I feel quite safe without, maybe try it for a bit and get a gun if you still feel that way after? Just taking a gun in without testing it the other way seems to be pushing the world in the wrong direction.
I am American and I take no offense to this. It's 100% true. It's appalling how few people support the illegalization of firearms.
Make firearms illegal in America and only criminals will own firearms in America. Taking guns away from a country that was built on war and guns just seems backwards in so many ways.
@ the OP, I live in an area where hunting is the center piece of life. They close the schools for the 9 day rifle season. Kids learn gun safety at a young age and are raise with guns around them. There is little to no gun violence where I live. I have multiple pistols and rifles and a good supply of ammo for all the guns. Everyone in the family knows how to properly used them. Everyone in the family has gone thru gun safety classes. Its not being paranoid. Do what makes you feel safer.
If you are going to own a gun, you must be versed in how to safely and legally use it. Also, you must make sure it is secured properly when not in use, especially if it is kept in your home. I suggest talking to people who are gun owners (preferably a police officer) and really get the gist of what it means to own and be responsible for a firearm in your home. Once you get the full understanding of this, you may change your mind.
Good locks and common security sense is a safer plan in the long run, although I do support the right of people to possess firearms, they just need to be responsible with them.
Right now, I'm currently looking for a job and an apartment. I'm considering buying myself a home defense weapon (probably a handgun or shotgun) and a fire-proof safe to keep personal documents and hard cash in. You know, once I get my own place.
Why? Because I don't like the way the world is going. I don't feel like I can trust the banks to hold my money and I don't think I can trust people to not try to rob my house if things start to go bad. My girlfriend is moving in with me when I get an apartment and I feel like I need to be able to protect her.
theres nothing impractical about sleeping with a gun under your bed for protection. however paranoid would be if you feel you can never leave your house or go anywhere in society without your fire arm on your side.
fire-proof safe, everyone should have one. but don't get one that is obvious that you have it, it needs to be consealable in a closet or other area of the home that is not readily in view.
a friend of mine who's guns have been stolen in the past, the thief turned out to be his friends and others he knew.
dought flaunt your security that just makes you a target. outsider of the security you set up is going to ask "what is he going to all that effort to protect?" "lets go find out in a smash and grab!"
when you say "you don't like the way the world is going," that a red flag for possibly to some degree being paranoid.
i wouldn't base investment in home security if your thinking "what ever is making the world go wrong" is going to one day show up at your door step.
home security should be based on what your local situation is.
such as does your area have a notoriety for gang bangers or meth heads?
do you live in an apartment complex? are any of the residents tied to reformed criminal housing programs.
etc.
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Your money is almost always better in an FDIC-insured bank; keeping money in your house removes any possibility of interest, and it is dramatically more likely that your money will be robbed from you in your house (though still very unlikely) than that both your bank and the entire federal deposit insurance system will collapse.
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Yeah, fireproof safes are only good for protecting documents from fire and nothing else. When two guys can just pick up and dash away with a safe it doesn't matter how nice a safe it is. If it's not mounted to anything then it's really not much good for security.
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And shotguns are better than handguns for home protection IMO.
Shotguns don't spray as much as people think they do. You should use a handgun, since if you are going to pull the trigger you better damn well mean it. Which means you should have to aim and shoot to kill. That is the only reason you should ever point a firearm at another human being, is when your life is on the line.
Shotguns don't spray as much as people think they do. You should use a handgun, since if you are going to pull the trigger you better damn well mean it. Which means you should have to aim and shoot to kill. That is the only reason you should ever point a firearm at another human being, is when your life is on the line.
You should never shoot to kill, disarming an adversary/danger is much better. Headshots are generally considered extreme force (and are also much harder to do without extensive training). And a shot to the upper body will generally not kill, but will stop a threat in its tracks.
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I should have been more clear with that statement:
If you need to discharge your firearm you are doing so with the INTENT to kill your attacker. You aim for the chest area which gives you the greatest chance of hitting your target since it is the largest area on a human to aim for. I did not mean for that comment to come across as "shoot them in the head", you should not shoot to disarm, you shoot to stop/kill your attacker.
Your money is almost always better in an FDIC-insured bank; keeping money in your house removes any possibility of interest, and it is dramatically more likely that your money will be robbed from you in your house (though still very unlikely) than that both your bank and the entire federal deposit insurance system will collapse.
Problem is, these days, with bank interest rates so near zero, its allmost pointless (for now anyway). That said, it doesnt hurt to keep some money on hand in case something does happen, better to be prepared than not I always say. I wouldnt shove all your money in your safe at home, but a reasonable amount to be able to cover you in case you absolutely need it should be fine. As for the gun. If you have been trained, and it makes you feel safer at home (once again in case of an emergency), then I dont see an issue with it.
Yes you're paranoid. Getting trained and getting a gun seems reasonable. I dont think putting big amounts of money in a safe is really smart (I mean 4-5 figure money), since it sounds like you are loose with your talk and if anybody ever figures out you have that cash in the house, somebody might rob or home invade you.
I understand the responsibility and implications of owning a gun for home defense and I assure you, I'd have no intention of pulling it out and pointing it at someone unless my life was on the line. I would be more than prepared to take proper training and certification courses.
However, at this time, I think my verdict on guns is I'm going to wait on it and see how I feel later. It's not a choice I'm going to make right away.
Also, I think there was a little confusion about the whole safe thing. I don't intend on placing my life savings in there or something. I'm looking at putting maybe a month or so's worth of living expenses in case of an emergency. No more.
Right now, I'm currently looking for a job and an apartment. I'm considering buying myself a home defense weapon (probably a handgun or shotgun)
Not sure how owning a gun makes you any more or less safe. Unless you entend on learning to use it properly AND have the nerve TOO use it when the time comes
and a fire-proof safe to keep personal documents and hard cash in. You know, once I get my own place.
This is a good idea, A fireproof safe can be useful not only for giving you piece of mind, minor theift protection but as an additional layor of insurance against fire.
Why? Because I don't like the way the world is going. I don't feel like I can trust the banks to hold my money
Why do you not trust the banks? This is a common Falacy. The banks have to back a pretty decent amount (dictated by law) and covered by the goverment (deposit insureance in canada I belive is near 100K) Unless you have more than that much in cash it won't really matter. Unless the Goverment fails at which point your money is valueless anyway.
and I don't think I can trust people to not try to rob my house if things start to go bad.
Your lack of faith in your fellow human being is understandable, People as a group (not as group of individuals but as a mass "mob" ) are profoundly stupid.
My girlfriend is moving in with me when I get an apartment and I feel like I need to be able to protect her.
Women do not need protecting, Its this attitude that pushes back the gender equality this nation and many others are striveing for, Trust your partner to look out for themselves. They managed it before they were with you.
I haven't spent nearly as much thinking about this as perhaps you have - among all possible doomsday scenarios, how many of them would be less problematic with a month of cash on hand? i.e., a scenario where credit cards don't work, cash can't be withdrawn from banks, but cash is still accepted as a form of payment for something that would mitigate the doomsday scenario?
Seems like real emergency preparedness might be useful - i.e., water, food, light, batteries, radio, first aid, and such. Or zombie preparedness (last page). I do see that "extra cash" made the list, so apparently the CDC thinks it might be helpful.
I did have a former coworker who left to become a farmer - so his family could be self-sufficient during the upcoming apocalypse. If you're paranoid, don't be afraid to go all-in!
You should never shoot to kill, disarming an adversary/danger is much better. Headshots are generally considered extreme force (and are also much harder to do without extensive training). And a shot to the upper body will generally not kill, but will stop a threat in its tracks.
This is bad advice.
When you shoot to 'disarm' you are shooting to kill. Any bullet wound can be fatal. If you are firing at another person you better be willing to kill that person or you should not shoot at all.
The reason you do not aim at the head is because it is a smaller target and easy to miss. If you aim for the torso, you are more likely to hit and cause enough damage to cause the attacker to go down. There is a good chance it will be a fatal shot.
You should never shoot to kill, disarming an adversary/danger is much better. Headshots are generally considered extreme force (and are also much harder to do without extensive training). And a shot to the upper body will generally not kill, but will stop a threat in its tracks.
if they live that only invites a lawsuit if you are not prepared to end someones life do not get a gun because you will only be providing them with a weapon to use against you. if you are protecting your home or self you empty the gun into them and then tell the police that you were in fear of your life
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Shotguns don't spray as much as people think they do. You should use a handgun, since if you are going to pull the trigger you better damn well mean it. Which means you should have to aim and shoot to kill. That is the only reason you should ever point a firearm at another human being, is when your life is on the line.
But... shotguns are more intimidating, easier to aim, easier to maintain, and have more stopping power while being less (but still fairly likely) to pierce walls of a residence. Handguns have more bullets, are more difficult to aim, but are easier to conceal and carry - they're also easier to injure yourself with.
if they live that only invites a lawsuit if you are not prepared to end someones life do not get a gun because you will only be providing them with a weapon to use against you. if you are protecting your home or self you empty the gun into them and then tell the police that you were in fear of your life
You will be charged with a crime if you empty a gun into an intruder. I guarantee it.
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I was told by a cop that if you have an unwanted intruder in your home, shoot to kill. If you main or just wound and they get off your property you will be sued and probably lose your home. If you kill them on your property you will get off for self defense or protecting your home and family. (This is Wisconsin I am talking about. Different states have different laws)
I was told by a cop that if you have an unwanted intruder in your home, shoot to kill. If you main or just wound and they get off your property you will be sued and probably lose your home.
I've heard people referencing nightmare scenarios like this frequently, but the cases seem to be mythical. I just can't imagine a judge or jury ruling against somebody shooting a burglar with the intent not to kill.
A judge or jury ruling against somebody who, given the option to disable, empties his gun into the burglar however, I can very easily see.
You will be charged with a crime if you empty a gun into an intruder. I guarantee it.
as long as they are still upright, and in your home all you have to do is tell police you were in fear for your life and by emptying the gun it shows that you were in fear for your life.
if someone comes in to my home to harm me or my family they have made the choice to commit suicide
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I won't get into the law since the States are so different on how they define the castle doctrine. Generally, let the force equal the threat.
Also, check the rules at your apartment. Many apartments will consider gun ownership as a breach of the lease.
A handgun is good if you trust yourself with a shot. If not, a shotgun does well. It will do lethal damage and rarely penetrate a wall harming potential loved ones on the other side.
Make sure to store either safely. Best of luck.
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Why? Because I don't like the way the world is going. I don't feel like I can trust the banks to hold my money and I don't think I can trust people to not try to rob my house if things start to go bad. My girlfriend is moving in with me when I get an apartment and I feel like I need to be able to protect her.
I've thought this is a good idea, but just now I'm wondering if I'm just paranoid. So, does my logic have any semblance of rationality to it or am I completely overreacting?
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I am American and I take no offense to this. It's 100% true. It's appalling how few people support the illegalization of firearms.
@ the OP, I live in an area where hunting is the center piece of life. They close the schools for the 9 day rifle season. Kids learn gun safety at a young age and are raise with guns around them. There is little to no gun violence where I live. I have multiple pistols and rifles and a good supply of ammo for all the guns. Everyone in the family knows how to properly used them. Everyone in the family has gone thru gun safety classes. Its not being paranoid. Do what makes you feel safer.
Good locks and common security sense is a safer plan in the long run, although I do support the right of people to possess firearms, they just need to be responsible with them.
theres nothing impractical about sleeping with a gun under your bed for protection. however paranoid would be if you feel you can never leave your house or go anywhere in society without your fire arm on your side.
fire-proof safe, everyone should have one. but don't get one that is obvious that you have it, it needs to be consealable in a closet or other area of the home that is not readily in view.
a friend of mine who's guns have been stolen in the past, the thief turned out to be his friends and others he knew.
dought flaunt your security that just makes you a target. outsider of the security you set up is going to ask "what is he going to all that effort to protect?" "lets go find out in a smash and grab!"
when you say "you don't like the way the world is going," that a red flag for possibly to some degree being paranoid.
i wouldn't base investment in home security if your thinking "what ever is making the world go wrong" is going to one day show up at your door step.
home security should be based on what your local situation is.
such as does your area have a notoriety for gang bangers or meth heads?
do you live in an apartment complex? are any of the residents tied to reformed criminal housing programs.
etc.
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And shotguns are better than handguns for home protection IMO.
You should never shoot to kill, disarming an adversary/danger is much better. Headshots are generally considered extreme force (and are also much harder to do without extensive training). And a shot to the upper body will generally not kill, but will stop a threat in its tracks.
If you need to discharge your firearm you are doing so with the INTENT to kill your attacker. You aim for the chest area which gives you the greatest chance of hitting your target since it is the largest area on a human to aim for. I did not mean for that comment to come across as "shoot them in the head", you should not shoot to disarm, you shoot to stop/kill your attacker.
Problem is, these days, with bank interest rates so near zero, its allmost pointless (for now anyway). That said, it doesnt hurt to keep some money on hand in case something does happen, better to be prepared than not I always say. I wouldnt shove all your money in your safe at home, but a reasonable amount to be able to cover you in case you absolutely need it should be fine. As for the gun. If you have been trained, and it makes you feel safer at home (once again in case of an emergency), then I dont see an issue with it.
I understand the responsibility and implications of owning a gun for home defense and I assure you, I'd have no intention of pulling it out and pointing it at someone unless my life was on the line. I would be more than prepared to take proper training and certification courses.
However, at this time, I think my verdict on guns is I'm going to wait on it and see how I feel later. It's not a choice I'm going to make right away.
Also, I think there was a little confusion about the whole safe thing. I don't intend on placing my life savings in there or something. I'm looking at putting maybe a month or so's worth of living expenses in case of an emergency. No more.
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Women do not need protecting, Its this attitude that pushes back the gender equality this nation and many others are striveing for, Trust your partner to look out for themselves. They managed it before they were with you.
Seems like real emergency preparedness might be useful - i.e., water, food, light, batteries, radio, first aid, and such. Or zombie preparedness (last page). I do see that "extra cash" made the list, so apparently the CDC thinks it might be helpful.
I did have a former coworker who left to become a farmer - so his family could be self-sufficient during the upcoming apocalypse. If you're paranoid, don't be afraid to go all-in!
This is bad advice.
When you shoot to 'disarm' you are shooting to kill. Any bullet wound can be fatal. If you are firing at another person you better be willing to kill that person or you should not shoot at all.
The reason you do not aim at the head is because it is a smaller target and easy to miss. If you aim for the torso, you are more likely to hit and cause enough damage to cause the attacker to go down. There is a good chance it will be a fatal shot.
if they live that only invites a lawsuit if you are not prepared to end someones life do not get a gun because you will only be providing them with a weapon to use against you. if you are protecting your home or self you empty the gun into them and then tell the police that you were in fear of your life
You will be charged with a crime if you empty a gun into an intruder. I guarantee it.
Be aware of singing as if you were half dead,
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nor more ashamed of its being heard,
than when you sang the songs of Satan.
I've heard people referencing nightmare scenarios like this frequently, but the cases seem to be mythical. I just can't imagine a judge or jury ruling against somebody shooting a burglar with the intent not to kill.
A judge or jury ruling against somebody who, given the option to disable, empties his gun into the burglar however, I can very easily see.
as long as they are still upright, and in your home all you have to do is tell police you were in fear for your life and by emptying the gun it shows that you were in fear for your life.
if someone comes in to my home to harm me or my family they have made the choice to commit suicide
Also, check the rules at your apartment. Many apartments will consider gun ownership as a breach of the lease.
A handgun is good if you trust yourself with a shot. If not, a shotgun does well. It will do lethal damage and rarely penetrate a wall harming potential loved ones on the other side.
Make sure to store either safely. Best of luck.