Except Vlads mobility is pretty bad and his Q is at a long cooldown at level 2 so Singed can do what he wants until Vlad is at level 7.
You don't just have Q. You also have auto attacks. This is the key.
At level 1 if singed starts with Fling...
he still takes a lot of damage before he can get into range to Fling (he should never get into range at this level anyway). Even if he does manage to Fling you, you still do a lot more damage to him afterwards. Singed loses.
At level 1 if he starts with Poison Trail...
he still takes a lot of damage before the trail can affect you (he should never get into range at this level anyway). Even if he does manage to gas you, you still do a lot more damage to him anyway. Singed loses.
If you auto attack him while Q-ing him, you can zone him from the start, or at least make him lose a majority of available CS. This should get you ahead in levels or at the very least gold.
This advantage remains with Vlad for the rest of the laning phase.
One of the most important things about ranged characters is positioning. You got to know where you have to be relative to the enemies position given champions skills/summoner abilities. If you got this down, very, very rarely should Singed be able to toss you around and win the exchange.
To add to areo, vlad typically starts 3boots, giving him all the mobility he needs.
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/sigh man it's so hard to win games on fridays saturdays and sundays..I'm never going to do try playing lol on the three day weekend ever again. Things that happenned to me: No jungler twice, once a person grabbed smite and chose to lane, nobody communicating at all, mid or feed, awkward bot lanes. It's like all that people that do the opposite of what I mentioned decided to not play. I can see why now.
Wow I just love when my team feeds the other teams AD carry so much that as Lee Sin I can use Randiuns, my E AND Exhaust in succession and 3 of us still can't out damage their self healing >.<
Wow I just love when my team feeds the other teams AD carry so much that as Lee Sin I can use Randiuns, my E AND Exhaust in succession and 3 of us still can't out damage their self healing >.<
FML...really
Most of your posts here are complaining about losing games to this and that... Why not just find 4 other people to play with? On that, why not find another game that doesn't seem so frustrating?
Most of your posts here are complaining about losing games to this and that... Why not just find 4 other people to play with? On that, why not find another game that doesn't seem so frustrating?
There is a reason I've been playing with Nai, and Nyxu, and GLJ, and some other people I've met that are good.
That doesn't mean when I jump into solo queue and see someone fail miserably that I can't post it as both a means of venting the annoyance it caused but also because others might just so happen to find it lulzy.
I dont get it, it seems every ranked the other two lanes lose ridiculously early and I get external pressure. Our early alistar pick (WHY) got counterpicked by sor/graves, and we STILL did ok lane until a 13m 5 man gank. Our mid ken never roamed, not once. But their mid did, of course. Then once we're down 14-4 (with a couple dragons no doubt, and a 3 tower differential), people rush into teamfights. ****ty teamfights even. Why, why, why, how can people not understand that this is a bad idea?
I swear all my ranked are **** like this. I know it's small sample size but it's no ****ing wonder I don't play it more.
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I dont get it, it seems every ranked the other two lanes lose ridiculously early and I get external pressure. Our early alistar pick (WHY) got counterpicked by sor/graves, and we STILL did ok lane until a 13m 5 man gank. Our mid ken never roamed, not once. But their mid did, of course. Then once we're down 14-4 (with a couple dragons no doubt, and a 3 tower differential), people rush into teamfights. ****ty teamfights even. Why, why, why, how can people not understand that this is a bad idea?
I swear all my ranked are **** like this. I know it's small sample size but it's no ****ing wonder I don't play it more.
lol. keep playing ranked and this will become normal... especially in 1300 ranking where you get the newer ranked players who still think its normal games. phantom dancers varus ftwwwwww.
lol. keep playing ranked and this will become normal... especially in 1300 ranking where you get the newer ranked players who still think its normal games. phantom dancers varus ftwwwwww.
At least you guys don't have rampant duo queues. Pretty much every game at 1600-1700 has at least 1 pair of duo queue, and often the elo difference between the two is like 200+. Yeah, you might imagine how horrible that is...
The worst thing is that the higher Elo player often doesn't play at his/her full potential because the opponents are worse than what that player would normally face solo q-ing, so that player will pick a role that he/she's not comfortable with (and other dumb stuff like that).
/aside: jk, the worst thing is that the lower of the duo q feels entitled to /not/ pick whatever role is left, despite that player being the worst on the team. Oho
Got a few duos with 400 Elo difference last night. Real sad.
At least you guys don't have rampant duo queues. Pretty much every game at 1600-1700 has at least 1 pair of duo queue, and often the elo difference between the two is like 200+. Yeah, you might imagine how horrible that is...
The worst thing is that the higher Elo player often doesn't play at his/her full potential because the opponents are worse than what that player would normally face solo q-ing, so that player will pick a role that he/she's not comfortable with (and other dumb stuff like that).
/aside: jk, the worst thing is that the lower of the duo q feels entitled to /not/ pick whatever role is left, despite that player being the worst on the team. Oho
Got a few duos with 400 Elo difference last night. Real sad.
I actually do get that. I had a 1500 vayne once and his partner was unranked. It happens very often. That is why duo ques often worse than good. 1500 vayne mains support and thinks he can carry my crappy elo.
I love it when the last pick says. "Not support" before the first ban is made. Really makes me feel like not trying...
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Others to note:
1. It sounds like Riven is getting some sort of buff (unconfirmed).
2. Fiddles is getting 50% more damage on minions and monsters for his E.
In game related news: I'm surprised more people don't play Katarina as she is really strong and has an OP passive. She is so much more than her ult which people complain all that she is.
In game related news: I'm surprised more people don't play Katarina as she is really strong and has an OP passive. She is so much more than her ult which people complain all that she is.
If it's blind she has a high chance of being good.
If it's draft and she isn't close to last pick, she will get crushed by counters.
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Others to note:
1. It sounds like Riven is getting some sort of buff (unconfirmed).
2. Fiddles is getting 50% more damage on minions and monsters for his E.
In game related news: I'm surprised more people don't play Katarina as she is really strong and has an OP passive. She is so much more than her ult which people complain all that she is.
That's so stupid. Why are they nerfing zeal and phantom dancer ? Ranged Carries get those items because they have very bad movement speed and because once a tanky dps gap closes them ranged carries die unless they are fed. They should at least increase the critical chance on those items for compensation.
Kat honestly sucks. If a team has silences, stuns and knock ups/knock backs kat becomes a non factor in the game unless Kat decides to build AD. She doesn't offer any utility outside of healing debuff which is worse than Miss Fortunes...Over half of the champions in the game counter her.
She pretty much needs a complete remake to be viable instead of being viable based on team composition.
Kat honestly sucks. If a team has silences, stuns and knock ups/knock backs kat becomes a non factor in the game unless Kat decides to build AD. She doesn't offer any utility outside of healing debuff which is worse than Miss Fortunes...Over half of the champions in the game counter her.
She pretty much needs a complete remake to be viable instead of being viable based on team composition.
Rather than CC making her useless, I think that it is more likely that people are just bad at playing her.
There is a guy that mains Katarina (TiensiNoAkuma - http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/398435) who consistently does well with her in Ranked play. I doubt this guy is always last or near last pick, so it stands to reason that he would get counterpicked in many games; that he can maintain such good stats on her hints that Katarina is still viable despite CC-heavy opposition.
I watched a game earlier with Judy Monica (http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/20465237) as Kat. She had to contend with several CC-equipped champs: Morgana, Vayne, Jax, Nautilus, and Jarvan. End result: she goes 11/0/7. And it is not as if it is because she is playing against chumps; her opposition is comprised of all 2k+ players.
If you look at her match history it is clear that Katarina can do well despite facing a lot of CC. In one of her games every opposing champion had at least 1 way of interrupting her ult (Kennen, Blitz, Amumu, Soraka, and Renekton!!).
I agree with the fact that there are a million different ways to counter Katarina, but after watching Scarra play her a number of times, she can destroy a game. Even first picked, which happens quite often when he picks her. She definitely gets crushed a lot of games, yet I feel with the proper timings on her jumps and ultimate she can wreck house. That said, she is hard to place since a lot of other AP mid champs are IMO straight up better offering up a lot more utility on top of a lot of damage.
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kata sucks. There are some people that may be able to do well using her. But the majority of anyone that uses her will suck. You don't counter pick her. Just being decent and picking a decent comp counters her. And Judy Monica isn't too for the most part. Watching other pros solo que. They are sad when they see Judy Monica on their team.
kata sucks. There are some people that may be able to do well using her. But the majority of anyone that uses her will suck. You don't counter pick her. Just being decent and picking a decent comp counters her. And Judy Monica isn't too for the most part. Watching other pros solo que. They are sad when they see Judy Monica on their team.
My response to this is something I am not willing to type out.
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You don't just have Q. You also have auto attacks. This is the key.
At level 1 if singed starts with Fling...
he still takes a lot of damage before he can get into range to Fling (he should never get into range at this level anyway). Even if he does manage to Fling you, you still do a lot more damage to him afterwards. Singed loses.
At level 1 if he starts with Poison Trail...
he still takes a lot of damage before the trail can affect you (he should never get into range at this level anyway). Even if he does manage to gas you, you still do a lot more damage to him anyway. Singed loses.
If you auto attack him while Q-ing him, you can zone him from the start, or at least make him lose a majority of available CS. This should get you ahead in levels or at the very least gold.
This advantage remains with Vlad for the rest of the laning phase.
One of the most important things about ranged characters is positioning. You got to know where you have to be relative to the enemies position given champions skills/summoner abilities. If you got this down, very, very rarely should Singed be able to toss you around and win the exchange.
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There is a reason I've been playing with Nai, and Nyxu, and GLJ, and some other people I've met that are good.
That doesn't mean when I jump into solo queue and see someone fail miserably that I can't post it as both a means of venting the annoyance it caused but also because others might just so happen to find it lulzy.
I swear all my ranked are **** like this. I know it's small sample size but it's no ****ing wonder I don't play it more.
lol. keep playing ranked and this will become normal... especially in 1300 ranking where you get the newer ranked players who still think its normal games. phantom dancers varus ftwwwwww.
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At least you guys don't have rampant duo queues. Pretty much every game at 1600-1700 has at least 1 pair of duo queue, and often the elo difference between the two is like 200+. Yeah, you might imagine how horrible that is...
The worst thing is that the higher Elo player often doesn't play at his/her full potential because the opponents are worse than what that player would normally face solo q-ing, so that player will pick a role that he/she's not comfortable with (and other dumb stuff like that).
/aside: jk, the worst thing is that the lower of the duo q feels entitled to /not/ pick whatever role is left, despite that player being the worst on the team. Oho
Got a few duos with 400 Elo difference last night. Real sad.
I actually do get that. I had a 1500 vayne once and his partner was unranked. It happens very often. That is why duo ques often worse than good. 1500 vayne mains support and thinks he can carry my crappy elo.
I love it when the last pick says. "Not support" before the first ban is made. Really makes me feel like not trying...
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2. Dragon looks really small compared to blue and red.
3. The landscape is a lot duller in color and is less detailed.
So we are starting to see some of the patch notes leak out:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20370-unofficial-patch-notes-5-14-12
Linked because it doesn't like copy paste.
Others to note:
1. It sounds like Riven is getting some sort of buff (unconfirmed).
2. Fiddles is getting 50% more damage on minions and monsters for his E.
In game related news: I'm surprised more people don't play Katarina as she is really strong and has an OP passive. She is so much more than her ult which people complain all that she is.
If it's blind she has a high chance of being good.
If it's draft and she isn't close to last pick, she will get crushed by counters.
Kat honestly sucks. If a team has silences, stuns and knock ups/knock backs kat becomes a non factor in the game unless Kat decides to build AD. She doesn't offer any utility outside of healing debuff which is worse than Miss Fortunes...Over half of the champions in the game counter her.
She pretty much needs a complete remake to be viable instead of being viable based on team composition.
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Rather than CC making her useless, I think that it is more likely that people are just bad at playing her.
There is a guy that mains Katarina (TiensiNoAkuma - http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/398435) who consistently does well with her in Ranked play. I doubt this guy is always last or near last pick, so it stands to reason that he would get counterpicked in many games; that he can maintain such good stats on her hints that Katarina is still viable despite CC-heavy opposition.
I watched a game earlier with Judy Monica (http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/20465237) as Kat. She had to contend with several CC-equipped champs: Morgana, Vayne, Jax, Nautilus, and Jarvan. End result: she goes 11/0/7. And it is not as if it is because she is playing against chumps; her opposition is comprised of all 2k+ players.
If you look at her match history it is clear that Katarina can do well despite facing a lot of CC. In one of her games every opposing champion had at least 1 way of interrupting her ult (Kennen, Blitz, Amumu, Soraka, and Renekton!!).
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My response to this is something I am not willing to type out.
ehhh