2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Tom: Why are you using the word "killing" in this post? It feels like what you would say in a scum chat.
@IB: If you don't like Golden Arches then why aren't you voting for him?
Proph - Can you please provide a T/S list? I don't recall you doing anything in this game besides asking questions and making the type of statements that you've made towards Tom here. They don't do a good job of showing where your suspicions lie and you also don't appear to be following up on these questions. It really seems like you are asking them to appear busy.
@Tom: Why are you using the word "killing" in this post? It feels like what you would say in a scum chat.
@IB: If you don't like Golden Arches then why aren't you voting for him?
Proph - Can you please provide a T/S list? I don't recall you doing anything in this game besides asking questions and making the type of statements that you've made towards Tom here. They don't do a good job of showing where your suspicions lie and you also don't appear to be following up on these questions. It really seems like you are asking them to appear busy.
@Tom: Why are you using the word "killing" in this post? It feels like what you would say in a scum chat.
@IB: If you don't like Golden Arches then why aren't you voting for him?
Proph - Can you please provide a T/S list? I don't recall you doing anything in this game besides asking questions and making the type of statements that you've made towards Tom here. They don't do a good job of showing where your suspicions lie and you also don't appear to be following up on these questions. It really seems like you are asking them to appear busy.
+town to EtR, though he should make a T/S list once he gets a chance too.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
This seems like the only direction we are headed. I still dislike Proph but MD hasn't done anything to make himself look townie and I'll put my trust in Iso for the time being.
Tom and FO are still my top town reads and everyone besides them, Proph, and McD are swimming around without strong reads.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Holy ****, are we starting the lynch engine again?
Do we even remember how to lynch people?
Assuming I get hammer'd by one of tom's scum buddies before I get back, gg mafia.
Way to fearmonger. Not like it's lylo.
Rhand, while it's not a rule per se, it happens rarely enough that I just assume it. Incedentally, Basic 72 just finished and had 4/2, but that one was announced as being "high-powered". So, if it's 3/1, then I just don't see both of them being truthful, and I'm inclined to lynch McD over Iso.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
And possibly 52. I stopped there because I couldn't figure out what the setup was and its not posted in the thread. The Town did have masons that game, so its possible.
Anyway, I still don't think that lynching LMD without a mass claim is a good idea. I think he's at L-1 right now so my opinion is probably a moot point given our deadline in less than a week.
The way I think of it, masons count as 1 PR, but whatever.
What are your reasons for thinking McD is town, FO? That is to say, Bodyguard is a claim that in most circumstances gets treated like a vanilla claim: lynch. I learned this the hard way in 66. His claim is the onlt thing saving him right now, which I don't think is right at all, especially given the circumstances. So, I don't need the massclaim to want to lynch him. But I do support a massclaim if it is needed to prove my point.
Whenever a wagon develops that seems "too easy" I'm always wary. LMD seems like a really easy target for his lack of posting Day 1. Same thing with PG on Day 1. I look at the people who pushed that lynch, the people who are on LMD's wagon, and who I think is generally scummy behaviorally and it feels all wrong.
EBWODP:
The other part of this is that a mass claim would allay a lot of the suspicion (both of LMD and Iso) if nobody else comes forward. Alternately, if one person came forward then I think its fairly a no-brainer to lynch LMD unless the other claimed role is incompatible with Iso's claim. Plus we get more somewhat confirmed townies in the process.
@Misting, if McDo wouldn't have claimed, should he then still be the lynch of today?
@AG: can you elaborate on your reads? You write off Tom as town like it's a fact. I would like to know why. Also, do you have no leans on most of us?
@FO: I agree on that. It feels like PG all over again.
PG was a last resort that I wasn't too excited about myself, but we had a deadline.
LMD has essentially been counterclaimed, and has had mucho scummy behavior as can been seen in my case. He still hasn't answered at least 3 questions I've asked around then, either (while saying I'm not trying).
The only parallel I see is that they are newer players. Just because PG was town doesn't mean LMD is.
Whenever a wagon develops that seems "too easy" I'm always wary. LMD seems like a really easy target for his lack of posting Day 1. Same thing with PG on Day 1. I look at the people who pushed that lynch, the people who are on LMD's wagon, and who I think is generally scummy behaviorally and it feels all wrong.
Can you list this/give specifics? I don't feel like checking if you've done it already.
EBWODP:
The other part of this is that a mass claim would allay a lot of the suspicion (both of LMD and Iso) if nobody else comes forward. Alternately, if one person came forward then I think its fairly a no-brainer to lynch LMD unless the other claimed role is incompatible with Iso's claim. Plus we get more somewhat confirmed townies in the process.
As I've said before, I think it near impossible that someone does not come forward. But I propose this: there are 10 of us left, 5 voting him. You, Rhand, IB, and EtR are the remaining ones (unless McD feels like self-hammering :D). You and Rhand have made yourselves clear on your position. Next time they post, EtR and IB take a stance/ask questions to get to that stance. If they don't hammer, we go forward with the mass-claim.
LMD has essentially been counterclaimed, and has had mucho scummy behavior as can been seen in my case. He still hasn't answered at least 3 questions I've asked around then, either (while saying I'm not trying).
It took you how long to make a case? A case that consisted of saying "this is a bad post" ad nauseam.
LMD has essentially been counterclaimed, and has had mucho scummy behavior as can been seen in my case. He still hasn't answered at least 3 questions I've asked around then, either (while saying I'm not trying).
It took you how long to make a case? A case that consisted of saying "this is a bad post" ad nauseam.
I have six days, I've plenty of time
Answer the questions I asked you.
One of which being "what do you think a case should look like if not pointing out the bad posts?"
Also if you are trying to say that I didn't explain why the posts I quoted were bad, and just said they were, you need to read my case again.
One of which being "what do you think a case should look like if not pointing out the bad posts?"
Also if you are trying to say that I didn't explain why the posts I quoted were bad, and just said they were, you need to read my case again.
Testy are we, your awfully impatient to lynch me, considering you didn't give a case YOU gave me flack for not asking for, and were content to allow Proph (whoms post you thought was bad) and FO do it for you, then give me flack for not answering your questions, so again, I will answer them when I damn well please...
..which is right now
- when I waited for two weeks for a case, and you do exactly what I thought you did, what do you expect me to say?
- I know there is a bodyguard, I AM THE BODYGUARD, your either playing stupid or you failed reading comprehension , what I am saying is that me being bodyguard is a believable statement (lack of target night 1 aside), as we don't know how the mod balanced this game (we know there was a cop and two other rolls)
- Try this "Hey guise, I still think Iso is scum so I'm going to vote Mcdonalds", yeah, you expect me to believe this after you spent the better part of day 1 hounding him, complete with insane troll logic algebra taught by Prof. Tom.
1. You are a bodyguard but get more powerful when you die. Makes no sense.
2.
Quote from LMD »
- No one has counterclaimed bodyguard, I'm not up on my mafia game balance theory, but it's entirely possibly there is a bodyguard (for whatever reason),
That does not sound like you are sure there is a bodyguard in this game. No playing stupid or lack of comprehension. Stop ad homming.
3. Seriously, how are you going to tell me what my reads are? If you read what I've posted, you'd know that I think Iso is town presently. If you flip town (super unlikely) then I think Iso is scum. If it was just about behavior I'd have both you and Iso as scum. But it's not, we have a counterclaim. Comprende? Also,
Quote from Tom »
What motivation would I have for lying and saying that I think Iso is town when I really think he is scum?
I'm starting to get the impression tom is scum pushing for a mislynch, he's apparently given up on lynching forgotton one because that requires effort and Iso won't do it for him.
Or he's town and trying to get a mislynch, in which case,
So basically OMGUS, and then blatantly showing that he doesn't know how townies work... why would a townie try to get a mislynch? How would the townie know that it was a mislynch?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
PG was a last resort that I wasn't too excited about myself, but we had a deadline.
LMD has essentially been counterclaimed, and has had mucho scummy behavior as can been seen in my case. He still hasn't answered at least 3 questions I've asked around then, either (while saying I'm not trying).
The only parallel I see is that they are newer players. Just because PG was town doesn't mean LMD is.
Tom says that PG was a last resort and he wasn't excited about lynching him. That's weird to me because Tom was the third person on the PG wagon as shown here:
@EtR: Why do you feel like we won't get anywhere with lynching someone you think is scum? What "better options" do we have than lynching scum?
I don't feel like we will get anywhere because he had 0 interactions that stood out. It's not like PG was sowing discord. He was just skating through. Better options would have been lynching scum that were doing stuff
Because I'm pretty removed at the moment I will Unvote until I can reread.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
@IB: If you don't like Golden Arches then why aren't you voting for him?
Proph - Can you please provide a T/S list? I don't recall you doing anything in this game besides asking questions and making the type of statements that you've made towards Tom here. They don't do a good job of showing where your suspicions lie and you also don't appear to be following up on these questions. It really seems like you are asking them to appear busy.
I would like to see this from IB and AG as well.
If we lynched him, we would be killing him. Simply word choice.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
+town to EtR, though he should make a T/S list once he gets a chance too.
I think I agree about LMD and Proph, though I'm still not sure about FO. His vote on me was weird though.
I'm going to review the game
Compelling case, I now want to see Tom lynched!
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Then once we get the scum out from among you two we probably lynch proph depending on what else happens. After that we'll see.
At least that's what I want to do.
This seems like the only direction we are headed. I still dislike Proph but MD hasn't done anything to make himself look townie and I'll put my trust in Iso for the time being.
Tom and FO are still my top town reads and everyone besides them, Proph, and McD are swimming around without strong reads.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
We need something to happen and I remember seeing someone mention that weirdly stalling wagons are frequently on scum.
Do we even remember how to lynch people?
Assuming I get hammer'd by one of tom's scum buddies before I get back, gg mafia.
Way to fearmonger. Not like it's lylo.
Rhand, while it's not a rule per se, it happens rarely enough that I just assume it. Incedentally, Basic 72 just finished and had 4/2, but that one was announced as being "high-powered". So, if it's 3/1, then I just don't see both of them being truthful, and I'm inclined to lynch McD over Iso.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Basic #59: Cop, Doc, 2-shot "Chatterbox" (Mason Maker), 6 VT vs. Tracker, roleblocker, Goon
Basic #58: Gunsmith, Untargetable, 2-shot vig, 6 VT vs. Roleblocker, 1-shot Role Cop, Goon
Basic #57: Doc, Watcher, 1-shot Vig, 6 VT vs. Roleblocker, 2x goon
Basic #56: Doc, Cop, 7 VT vs. Cop-immune Godfather, Roleblocker, Goon
Basic #55: Bodyguard, Tracker, 2x Masons, 5 VT vs. Roleblocker, Rolecop, Goon
Basic #54: Watcher, Jailer, 2-shot Vig, Commuter Untargetable, 5 VT vs. 1-shot Poisoner, 2x Goon
Basic #53: Doc, Stalker, Vig, 6 VT vs. Roleblocker. 2x Goon
This is on top of the other ones that I already posted:
So Basic 56 and 55 also broke the "rule" of 6 VT.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
And possibly 52. I stopped there because I couldn't figure out what the setup was and its not posted in the thread. The Town did have masons that game, so its possible.
Anyway, I still don't think that lynching LMD without a mass claim is a good idea. I think he's at L-1 right now so my opinion is probably a moot point given our deadline in less than a week.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
What are your reasons for thinking McD is town, FO? That is to say, Bodyguard is a claim that in most circumstances gets treated like a vanilla claim: lynch. I learned this the hard way in 66. His claim is the onlt thing saving him right now, which I don't think is right at all, especially given the circumstances. So, I don't need the massclaim to want to lynch him. But I do support a massclaim if it is needed to prove my point.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
The other part of this is that a mass claim would allay a lot of the suspicion (both of LMD and Iso) if nobody else comes forward. Alternately, if one person came forward then I think its fairly a no-brainer to lynch LMD unless the other claimed role is incompatible with Iso's claim. Plus we get more somewhat confirmed townies in the process.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist | Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder | Bosh, Iron Golem | Ezuri, Renegade Leader
Brago, King Eternal | Oona, Queen of the Fae | Wort, Boggart Auntie | Wort, the Raidmother
Captain Sisay | Rhys, the Redeemed | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight | Obzedat, Ghost Council | Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind | Vorel of the Hull Clade
Uril, the Miststalker | Prossh, Skyraider of Kher | Nicol Bolas | Progenitus
Ghave, Guru of Spores | Zedruu the Greathearted | Damia, Sage of Stone | Riku of Two Reflections
@AG: can you elaborate on your reads? You write off Tom as town like it's a fact. I would like to know why. Also, do you have no leans on most of us?
@FO: I agree on that. It feels like PG all over again.
Assuming I'm lynched, Iso probably gets lynched tomorrow, I believe Iso is town.
So yeah, thus gg.
Not sure why you call that fear mongering but yeah.
@ AG what do you think of tom?
@
IBTHE AMERICAN, what do you think..period, I can't recall the last post you made O.o.LMD has essentially been counterclaimed, and has had mucho scummy behavior as can been seen in my case. He still hasn't answered at least 3 questions I've asked around then, either (while saying I'm not trying).
The only parallel I see is that they are newer players. Just because PG was town doesn't mean LMD is.
So you think the person essentially counterclaiming you is town. Good to know.
Now die
Dah Ef?
This wagon is taking ridiculously long to develop.
Can you list this/give specifics? I don't feel like checking if you've done it already.
As I've said before, I think it near impossible that someone does not come forward. But I propose this: there are 10 of us left, 5 voting him. You, Rhand, IB, and EtR are the remaining ones (unless McD feels like self-hammering :D). You and Rhand have made yourselves clear on your position. Next time they post, EtR and IB take a stance/ask questions to get to that stance. If they don't hammer, we go forward with the mass-claim.
It's fearmongering because your post sounds very much like you are trying to save yourself by saying "you lynch me, you lose".
It took you this long to figure that out.
If you kill me now, I'll become more powerful than you will ever know,
It took you how long to make a case? A case that consisted of saying "this is a bad post" ad nauseam.
I have six days, I've plenty of time
What?
Answer the questions I asked you.
One of which being "what do you think a case should look like if not pointing out the bad posts?"
Also if you are trying to say that I didn't explain why the posts I quoted were bad, and just said they were, you need to read my case again.
Please do so. Not lynching LMD or Iso is about the dumbest thing we could do right now. LMD specifically
I've mentioned that at least twice, so yes, I am amused you haven't seen that.
Testy are we, your awfully impatient to lynch me, considering you didn't give a case YOU gave me flack for not asking for, and were content to allow Proph (whoms post you thought was bad) and FO do it for you, then give me flack for not answering your questions, so again, I will answer them when I damn well please...
..which is right now
- when I waited for two weeks for a case, and you do exactly what I thought you did, what do you expect me to say?
- I know there is a bodyguard, I AM THE BODYGUARD, your either playing stupid or you failed reading comprehension , what I am saying is that me being bodyguard is a believable statement (lack of target night 1 aside), as we don't know how the mod balanced this game (we know there was a cop and two other rolls)
- Try this "Hey guise, I still think Iso is scum so I'm going to vote Mcdonalds", yeah, you expect me to believe this after you spent the better part of day 1 hounding him, complete with insane troll logic algebra taught by Prof. Tom.
1. You are a bodyguard but get more powerful when you die. Makes no sense.
2.
That does not sound like you are sure there is a bodyguard in this game. No playing stupid or lack of comprehension. Stop ad homming.
3. Seriously, how are you going to tell me what my reads are? If you read what I've posted, you'd know that I think Iso is town presently. If you flip town (super unlikely) then I think Iso is scum. If it was just about behavior I'd have both you and Iso as scum. But it's not, we have a counterclaim. Comprende? Also,
Answer that please.
And this please.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'll be on holiday in Gambia, and I have no idea if I will be able to go online there.
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Gambia is widely known for their vacation Wi-Fi hotspots. /facetious
@Tom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RCQDDsMpU
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Did I miss a VL/A from him or does he need a prod?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Tom says that PG was a last resort and he wasn't excited about lynching him. That's weird to me because Tom was the third person on the PG wagon as shown here:
For not being too excited about it being third on the wagon would a weird position to take.
Another concern that I have is that I can't really find anything that shows you were against the PG wagon. In fact, when I said this:
You responded with this:
Nice attempt at revisionist history.
Tom needs to be lynched.