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Why does that give you a good feeling? That should give you terrible feelings of dread. This is Flame Warriors all over again except I'm getting lynched sooner because I'm not a Daykilling Doctor.
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Argh accidental submit reply. Prophylaxis was voting Megs after the vig as well.
Deeper analysis that I wanted to post earlier:
AI and Cyouni seem to be taking cues from each other, or at least thinking the same. Seppel's in there too. I don't necessarily think they're scum, but if we run out of good scumspects, then AI is a decent info lynch.
Proph and Iso maintained their Meg votes. I don't think that means a whole lot tbh.
There's no one on both Meg and Iso. That gives me the feeling one is town and the other is scum.
And since Meg is actively lurking while Iso is posting, I support lynching Meg first. Plus, Meg just doesn't sound like he did in Homestuck.
In conclusion, Vote: Megiddo
(I was originally thinking of voting Iso, but my conclusions make me feel better about a Megiddo lynch)
Why does that give you a good feeling? That should give you terrible feelings of dread. This is Flame Warriors all over again except I'm getting lynched sooner because I'm not a Daykilling Doctor.
It gave me a good feeling because I was being dumb and hadn't thought it through fully before I accidentally hit submit reply. I had a stupid assumption that Meg's wagon was scum-driven because Void flipped town. I realized in the middle of analysis that didn't make sense.
Also I'm in favor of lynching either of you because I think the two wagons will be telling.
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After mulling it over, if nobody else claims to be RB'd, I'm inclined to believe that there are two town information roles (Drey and Iso).
It just seems like the smarter thing to do is to roleblock the information role than to try to get it mislynched. Now, whether the scumteam is smart or not, that's still up for debate.
@Seppel: Now that there are five dead townies (+1 neutral), I am beginning to doubt whether your 'allegiance' to the town is as strong as before. Do you have any good reason why we should keep you around?
>implying that I have any ability to kill
>implying any of the six deaths were my fault
>implying all six were my fault
>implying that the PREGAME DEAD TOWNIE WAS SOMEHOW MY FAULT
Oh lord.
In fact, a kill on void reads as if it's a vig shot. There were plenty of people who wanted void dead because of how awful a player he was.
@Seppel Why haven't you exited stage left even? I believe Grim Batol had same thing and that person disappeared after achieving AWC? Do you mind if we lynch you then to test your AWC?
The AWC has aready been met. Now I just have to survive to the end of the game.
I don't think that what you argue lends credit to Seppel actually being Neutral. His neutral claim is perfect if they are scumbuddies. Not only does it make the town leary of voting Seppel, but it's a grand excuse to lurk. He pops in now and then with accurate reads and pushes a case against a player that was lurking at the time. Once Void started flailing and not answering the case, Seppel just tried desperately to hammer the case home.
I'm not buying the "I'm trying a new playing style" stuff.
Vote Megiddo
Proph voted Meg twice without even realizing that he voted Meg twice. He also crashes through the gates with an opening vote while clearly having not read the thread as he promised. Smells like bus. Or at the very least, scum.
Why does that give you a good feeling? That should give you terrible feelings of dread. This is Flame Warriors all over again except I'm getting lynched sooner because I'm not a Daykilling Doctor.
I...don't really see how that's evidence so much as a negligence to read his quoted post which could very well be an attempt at seeming townie by saying "hay let's follow the dead guy" so never mind!
^ The post I was referring to, though it's now moot.
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I've read through Seppel's claim, obviously, but remind me, does anything bad happen to you if your friend dies after you find them, or if you die afterwards?
I've read through Seppel's claim, obviously, but remind me, does anything bad happen to you if your friend dies after you find them, or if you die afterwards?
My understanding is that Seppel doesn't need me around any more, and I never needed him to begin with.
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Proph voted Meg twice without even realizing that he voted Meg twice. He also crashes through the gates with an opening vote while clearly having not read the thread as he promised. Smells like bus. Or at the very least, scum.
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I've read through Seppel's claim, obviously, but remind me, does anything bad happen to you if your friend dies after you find them, or if you die afterwards?
Nope, I can punt him at any time. I obviously don't want to, since the default town reaction is to lynch me if I don't townside.
And yes, I am townsiding. I've just had terrible reads this game.
Ok. But why did you come in and vote meg after having not read the thread? And if you have read the thread, what did you learn? Who do you have questions for?
Wouldn't a motivation have given you two shots? In Seasons mafia, WoD got two kills as SK when he was motivated.
To go inside the mod's head I am guessing it worked like this:
1. I am motivated and can take an extra action.
2. I only had one vig shot.
3. Therefore I couldn't perform two vig shots during the night since I had two actions, but one vig shot.
Maybe we lynch Seppel and base our thoughts on AI off of that lynch. If we're going after Seppel/AI, I prefer to lynch a neutral who is possibly scum to a town who is possibly scum.
That is absolutely dumb. We have our alignments confirmed to each other.
I feel like people are calling Cyouni town too eagerly because he's just a good player that reasons his points out well. He's certainly not a top suspect, but he can't just be dismissed this early in the game.
I'll also not lynch Guardman & AI, while I'm tossing townreads out there.
I think the DRey wagon needs to be analysed, as (I neglected to come in here and say this BEFORE the deadline :facepalm:) him jumping in front of the bullet meant for Void (no pun intended with the vig shot) was a blatantly town action, as is DRey's norm for crazy stunts like that, especially while facing a deadline. And how was Void's role scum? Like, honestly?
But, clearly, this has come too late.
Re: RB gambit/claim/etc- It's becoming commonplace on this site to do that as scum. Don't really give it much credit unless the townie has demonstrated a confirmable ability prior to it.
And, I'm not sure whether coming out with this or not is correct, but I'm going to. I can confirm that Iso is not the only other information role, as an alignment cop investigated Guardman last night. I do not know the result.
I realize I'm showing my lack of being caught up/involved in this game, with my directly contradicting my "I won't lynch Iso" a few posts above, but with a dead CCand my information (considering I, myself, am an information role [not a cop]), as well as what I've seen so far in the reread (primarily the DRey replacement onwards), I think it warrants a vote. I don't feel like the town has a 5th capable information role, if we count myself, the alignment cop, Void & DRey.
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Was anyone else roleblocked? Also, there's something in that claim that makes a lot of sense with my pm.
Also, I'm getting tired of this town stringing up people I believe to be town. I feel so powerless against the throng of experienced players which apparently see scum where I see townie stuff.
I see absolutely no reason not to vote Megiddo. His active lurking is highly suspicious, and the ones saying that it's not is spewing rubbish. If he flips town then it's a good informationlynch imho.
vote Megiddo
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And, I'm not sure whether coming out with this or not is correct, but I'm going to. I can confirm that Iso is not the only other information role, as an alignment cop investigated Guardman last night. I do not know the result.
Uhh...this game got weird, fast.
Assuming you are telling the truth, you must be some sort of information role yourself, which means that Iso really needs to die. But I don't believe you are trustworthy yet.
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I'm agreeing with Seppel here. Your 1884 is a towntell.
What?
Nah brah #1854 sounds legit.
I edited out the rest of Wessel's post because it was so dumb. He tries to push suspicion my way, then practically agrees with and/or restates everything I've said in like the past 5 posts.
But why Iso? IIRC he was not an instigator on any of the major wagons previously mentioned, and that doesn't smell of Iso-scum. The roleblock-scenario seems trustworthy to me as he was the only outed powerrole and thus seems like scums obvious RB-target.
Did you not read my post before the mod? Because it looks like you didn't read my post before the mod killed Void.
1. Because there was no reason not to.
2. I only had one vig shot.
3. Get rid of confusion about Void's death.
4. I might die from motivation.
1. Agree.
2. Does the motivation give to a 2nd shot to be used the same day or the next day?
3. Void was pretty obv. vigged.
4. Explain the flavor of the motivation that makes you think you'll die.
Actually, i'm pretty sure the flavor of this game is super important and my be able to help us in the late game. Kpaca's role was a 7 layer cake of perfect flavor, drey's role wasn't so much perfect, Dragon's was , if i read the wiki right, very flavor accurate as well. We should be careful not to strictly flavor game, but so far i like the chances that our flavor is helpful more than a misnomer.
EBWoP: Theoretically, Guardman could be a third-party killing role (SK or hitman), but I certainly hope this game doesn't have as many neutrals in it as Ozone Underground.
I honestly don't see Guardman as the SK claiming here. And hitman guardman is usually quite about his motives as well. (Ged's Normal)
also, since bad timing with mod resetting votecount, Vote Iso
No-one's interested in lynching the CC-er of the dead town? The CC-er that was so convienently RB'd? The cc-er that claimed a typical scum role, that is even more scummy now that Drey flipped town? The CC-er that was oh so scummy yesterday with his pushes?
Vote Iso.
I was actually thinking this exact same thing and was going to post it when I was done catching up.
On Tordeck: Post count is an inefficient way of meta analysis. People can die Day 1, Day 3, go to endgame. I thought it was a silly reason to attack Iso. On the case, I admit I had a gut read on Tordeck and I'm procrastizing the case.
And yet had you actually read my case you would see that I took all that into account so now you are just attempting to misrepresent me as well as grasp at straws. Yeah if Iso wasnt a better option I would so be ready to lynch you right now.
EBWoP: Theoretically, Guardman could be a third-party killing role (SK or hitman), but I certainly hope this game doesn't have as many neutrals in it as Ozone Underground.
Iso are you a triple voter?
If the results of that game are never mentioned again it would be too soon.
(also, Salvation really needs to figure out nested quotes)
Also since I did not get a PM saying otherwise I am going to guess that my night action was successful so Cy, got anything you wanna say? Maybe about D_V?
I feel like people are calling Cyouni town too eagerly because he's just a good player that reasons his points out well. He's certainly not a top suspect, but he can't just be dismissed this early in the game.
As someone who has fallen to Cyouni being scum too often, I can agree with that.
And how was Void's role scum? Like, honestly?
Modgaming is bad.
And, I'm not sure whether coming out with this or not is correct, but I'm going to. I can confirm that Iso is not the only other information role, as an alignment cop investigated Guardman last night. I do not know the result.
I realize I'm showing my lack of being caught up/involved in this game, with my directly contradicting my "I won't lynch Iso" a few posts above, but with a dead CCand my information (considering I, myself, am an information role [not a cop]), as well as what I've seen so far in the reread (primarily the DRey replacement onwards), I think it warrants a vote. I don't feel like the town has a 5th capable information role, if we count myself, the alignment cop, Void & DRey.
Vote: Iso
Not sure why you would spew this out, but unless that person comes out saying Gman is scum, Gman is probably town.
Iso ragequit and OMGUS'd his way into being town? Please.
Almost positive Gricky and Audihno are scum with the way they are completely ignoring the Iso wagon.
Also, G_D please elaborate the flavor of the failure.
I did not bemoan Guardmans townieness, I actually ment it was great.
I did not ignore the Iso wagon just because I didn't want to join it. I happend to think Iso is town, which I have expressed. Why are you trying to shed doubt about it?
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Arcadic, are you even paying attention? Gricky has wanted me dead since Day 1.
DV, are YOU paying attention?
Seppel, that does not answer my question.
Everyone on my wagon should feel terrible about their play. Especially the town voting me. I would like to point out that the last time I CCed someone, I got mislynched after they flipped town.
Lynching me toDay tells me how little value is placed on actual analysis and how everyone voting me is content to just lynch Iso because he's Iso.
Bravo, everyone. *Slow clap* You're only shafting yourselves.
dan, I hope you don't respond to Wessel's fishing.
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Maybe we lynch Seppel and base our thoughts on AI off of that lynch. If we're going after Seppel/AI, I prefer to lynch a neutral who is possibly scum to a town who is possibly scum.
Feeling better about you.....
Wouldn't a motivation have given you two shots? In Seasons mafia, WoD got two kills as SK when he was motivated.
For the love of God would you just stop? What purpose would you have to bring this up? If Guardman had other shots he took himself off the mafias mind and now you give them reason worry? I don't want any 'well maybe this or that or what if"
In fact don't respond to this I'm not getting into anything that could be.
Arcad
Everyone on my wagon should feel terrible about their play. Especially the town voting me. I would like to point out that the last time I CCed someone, I got mislynched after they flipped town.
So, you can meta yourself?
Lynching me toDay tells me how little value is placed on actual analysis and how everyone voting me is content to just lynch Iso because he's Iso.
No, I'm just saying that I have yet to CC someone as scum. I'm sure it'll happen someday. But as it stands, any time I've been meta'd, I could point to a time when I've done whatever I was doing as the other alignment, IIRC.
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It's not necessarily that I don't think you guys are intelligent. I just don't think that anybody voting for me has really put much thought into WHY they're voting for me.
As for dan's claim, I currently have no reason to disbelieve it.
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Everyone on my wagon should feel terrible about their play. Especially the town voting me. I would like to point out that the last time I CCed someone, I got mislynched after they flipped town.
This coming on the heels of "DRey cannot possibly be town" because of the role being too similar, I'm not inclined to believe you're town.
And if the last time you CC'd someone you were both town, then why did you CC this time?
Mornings. A bloody horrid excuse to ever get out of bed if there was one. It came too early, and those "morning people" who were chipper as can be just made it that much more infuriating.
Hayate Yagami was not a morning person. And as her luck would have it, a fair number of the quarantined were. She still held out hope for the few that were equally as slow to get up as herself - maybe they could share war stories over a cup of coffee. Or tea, if that's what people here preferred. At least she doesn't ask for milk like some people...
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"I swear, this has to stop being a thing that happens..." The commander muttered to herself, before counting people once her vision returned. Still eighteen? still eighteen. Good.
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How cute. /overreactflail
So we're claiming now? What's the flavor about Hermione being a rolecop?
Something about a library apparently.
You're reserve suspects are Seppel, AI and Cyouni?
Now I know you're scum.
At this point, I'm convinced that Iso's just being as destructive and distractive as humanly possible.
Weren't you the one saying "derf AI could be a mafia recruiter" on Day 1?
Oh yeah, you were.
Nice try attempting to discredit me on my way out the door.
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It'd make my day if your rolename was Patchouli Knowledge.
So the two quick wagons of the day:
Pre-vig votecount:
Megiddo: Iso, Void, Prophylaxis, Seppel, Arnnaria, Wheat_Grinder
Void: AI, Cyouni,
Iso: Arcadic
Post-vig votecount:
Iso: AI, Wessel, AE, Cyouni, Guardman, Infinis
AI: GT
Cyouni: Audinho
Megiddo: Iso
Conclusion: AI and Cyouni jumped wagons together. No one on the main wagon of Megiddo is on the main wagon of Iso.
That gives me a good feeling.
Vote: Iso
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Deeper analysis that I wanted to post earlier:
AI and Cyouni seem to be taking cues from each other, or at least thinking the same. Seppel's in there too. I don't necessarily think they're scum, but if we run out of good scumspects, then AI is a decent info lynch.
Proph and Iso maintained their Meg votes. I don't think that means a whole lot tbh.
There's no one on both Meg and Iso. That gives me the feeling one is town and the other is scum.
And since Meg is actively lurking while Iso is posting, I support lynching Meg first. Plus, Meg just doesn't sound like he did in Homestuck.
In conclusion, Vote: Megiddo
(I was originally thinking of voting Iso, but my conclusions make me feel better about a Megiddo lynch)
It gave me a good feeling because I was being dumb and hadn't thought it through fully before I accidentally hit submit reply. I had a stupid assumption that Meg's wagon was scum-driven because Void flipped town. I realized in the middle of analysis that didn't make sense.
Also I'm in favor of lynching either of you because I think the two wagons will be telling.
So give me a pre-rundown on my wagon for when I flip town.
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After mulling it over, if nobody else claims to be RB'd, I'm inclined to believe that there are two town information roles (Drey and Iso).
It just seems like the smarter thing to do is to roleblock the information role than to try to get it mislynched. Now, whether the scumteam is smart or not, that's still up for debate.
Cyouni remains a townread.
I can't believe he was town.
>implying that I have any ability to kill
>implying any of the six deaths were my fault
>implying all six were my fault
>implying that the PREGAME DEAD TOWNIE WAS SOMEHOW MY FAULT
Oh lord.
In fact, a kill on void reads as if it's a vig shot. There were plenty of people who wanted void dead because of how awful a player he was.
HA. I WAS RIGHT.
Guardman promoted to auto-town.
The AWC has aready been met. Now I just have to survive to the end of the game.
Wait what?
I've been wrong about both DRey, Void, and DH.
I've been right about Kpaca and Ahlyis.
40% is not accurate reads.
What are you talking about?
Proph voted Meg twice without even realizing that he voted Meg twice. He also crashes through the gates with an opening vote while clearly having not read the thread as he promised. Smells like bus. Or at the very least, scum.
Vote Prophylaxis.
I'm not seeing it. Reads as genuine frustration and from having seen a lot of frustrated town Isos in my time.
I'm making a game you might like.
Townpost.
Thank you for townposting.
^ The post I was referring to, though it's now moot.
I forgot about that (not that I was seriously considering lynching Guardman).
Of note is that Seppel and I have had our alignments confirmed to one another, so I trust his Iso read.
Unvote
Vote Prophylaxis
I feel like there's some kind of conspiracy going on.
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Damn right, Cyan. I'll let you in on it if you can name all of the neutrals in the game.
I won't lynch Iso, or Seppel.
My understanding is that Seppel doesn't need me around any more, and I never needed him to begin with.
I did gain an ability, though.
Seppel and kpaca?
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Seppel have my babies.
It's almost as if there's some sort of mafia out to kill the town.
Everyone is scum!
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2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I can confirm that AsianInvasion was modconfirmed to me as town
Nope, I can punt him at any time. I obviously don't want to, since the default town reaction is to lynch me if I don't townside.
And yes, I am townsiding. I've just had terrible reads this game.
I predicted that. Otherwise there'd be no incentive for you to find me.
Ok. But why did you come in and vote meg after having not read the thread? And if you have read the thread, what did you learn? Who do you have questions for?
It'll be out no sooner than six months from now. My artist and composer are being slower than expected.
Reek, Reek, it rhymes with weak.
I'm 98% sure Iso is town at this point.
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
To go inside the mod's head I am guessing it worked like this:
1. I am motivated and can take an extra action.
2. I only had one vig shot.
3. Therefore I couldn't perform two vig shots during the night since I had two actions, but one vig shot.
That is absolutely dumb. We have our alignments confirmed to each other.
Unless the mafia come out and say HEY SEPPEL VOTE WITH US, WE GOT THIS IN THE BAG, then I'm townsiding.
Town, confirmed by mod.
I'll also not lynch Guardman & AI, while I'm tossing townreads out there.
I think the DRey wagon needs to be analysed, as (I neglected to come in here and say this BEFORE the deadline :facepalm:) him jumping in front of the bullet meant for Void (no pun intended with the vig shot) was a blatantly town action, as is DRey's norm for crazy stunts like that, especially while facing a deadline. And how was Void's role scum? Like, honestly?
But, clearly, this has come too late.
Re: RB gambit/claim/etc- It's becoming commonplace on this site to do that as scum. Don't really give it much credit unless the townie has demonstrated a confirmable ability prior to it.
And, I'm not sure whether coming out with this or not is correct, but I'm going to. I can confirm that Iso is not the only other information role, as an alignment cop investigated Guardman last night. I do not know the result.
I realize I'm showing my lack of being caught up/involved in this game, with my directly contradicting my "I won't lynch Iso" a few posts above, but with a dead CCand my information (considering I, myself, am an information role [not a cop]), as well as what I've seen so far in the reread (primarily the DRey replacement onwards), I think it warrants a vote. I don't feel like the town has a 5th capable information role, if we count myself, the alignment cop, Void & DRey.
Vote: Iso
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Was anyone else roleblocked? Also, there's something in that claim that makes a lot of sense with my pm.
Also, I'm getting tired of this town stringing up people I believe to be town. I feel so powerless against the throng of experienced players which apparently see scum where I see townie stuff.
I see absolutely no reason not to vote Megiddo. His active lurking is highly suspicious, and the ones saying that it's not is spewing rubbish. If he flips town then it's a good informationlynch imho.
vote Megiddo
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
Uhh...this game got weird, fast.
Assuming you are telling the truth, you must be some sort of information role yourself, which means that Iso really needs to die. But I don't believe you are trustworthy yet.
And Dan volunteering that information is just odd. I'm trying to find the scum motivation there.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
What?
Nah brah #1854 sounds legit.
I edited out the rest of Wessel's post because it was so dumb. He tries to push suspicion my way, then practically agrees with and/or restates everything I've said in like the past 5 posts.
1884 is quote from Iso for me? Am I missing something?
Why do you bemoan the townieness of Guardman?
Did you not read my post before the mod? Because it looks like you didn't read my post before the mod killed Void.
Read any Iso game to show that as any alignment, Iso is not trustworthy.
1. Agree.
2. Does the motivation give to a 2nd shot to be used the same day or the next day?
3. Void was pretty obv. vigged.
4. Explain the flavor of the motivation that makes you think you'll die.
Actually, i'm pretty sure the flavor of this game is super important and my be able to help us in the late game. Kpaca's role was a 7 layer cake of perfect flavor, drey's role wasn't so much perfect, Dragon's was , if i read the wiki right, very flavor accurate as well. We should be careful not to strictly flavor game, but so far i like the chances that our flavor is helpful more than a misnomer.
I honestly don't see Guardman as the SK claiming here. And hitman guardman is usually quite about his motives as well. (Ged's Normal)
also, since bad timing with mod resetting votecount, Vote Iso
My wife was on MTV with this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUutIZg2EpU
Iso ragequit and OMGUS'd his way into being town? Please.
Almost positive Gricky and Audihno are scum with the way they are completely ignoring the Iso wagon.
Also, G_D please elaborate the flavor of the failure.
My wife was on MTV with this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUutIZg2EpU
I was actually thinking this exact same thing and was going to post it when I was done catching up.
Vote Iso
Unfortunately that is a null tell with Iso. Doesnt make you wrong, just not right for that reason
And yet had you actually read my case you would see that I took all that into account so now you are just attempting to misrepresent me as well as grasp at straws. Yeah if Iso wasnt a better option I would so be ready to lynch you right now.
FOS Proh
If the results of that game are never mentioned again it would be too soon.
(also, Salvation really needs to figure out nested quotes)
Also since I did not get a PM saying otherwise I am going to guess that my night action was successful so Cy, got anything you wanna say? Maybe about D_V?
The Family
The bussing then the I love you hurts sooo bad.
@ Seppel did you manage to pair with AI last night? If so do you obtain any abilities?
@ Iso what exactly does your ability do?
@ Eveyone I am confused what Roleblocker do we have dead?
Maybe... I pmed the mod about a question about this.
Good, you two are for sure tied together then.
Whoa, I thought you just meant another Touhou Mafia. That's even more awesome.
As someone who has fallen to Cyouni being scum too often, I can agree with that.
Modgaming is bad.
Not sure why you would spew this out, but unless that person comes out saying Gman is scum, Gman is probably town.
/barn. Also, I'm liking your posts slightly better as of late.
I did not bemoan Guardmans townieness, I actually ment it was great.
I did not ignore the Iso wagon just because I didn't want to join it. I happend to think Iso is town, which I have expressed. Why are you trying to shed doubt about it?
Damnation studios!
Zodiac - Doublevoter - Loss
Starcraft - VT - Loss
The Office - Mafia Rolecop - Win
1984 - VT - Vigged - Loss
Quantum - Lynched D1 Alpha Mafia - Win
Mean Girls - Town Masonizer Replaced into lynch - Loss
Startrek Voyager - Backup JOAT - Loss
Boardgame - VT- Loss
Ghost Story - VT - (replaced in)
Smalltown Animaniacs - Delay Doc - Loss
Kill Bill - One-shot Vig - Loss
Magical Girls -
Mr Potato Head -
Work hard, play casually
DV, are YOU paying attention?
Seppel, that does not answer my question.
Everyone on my wagon should feel terrible about their play. Especially the town voting me. I would like to point out that the last time I CCed someone, I got mislynched after they flipped town.
Lynching me toDay tells me how little value is placed on actual analysis and how everyone voting me is content to just lynch Iso because he's Iso.
Bravo, everyone. *Slow clap* You're only shafting yourselves.
dan, I hope you don't respond to Wessel's fishing.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Feeling better about you.....
For the love of God would you just stop? What purpose would you have to bring this up? If Guardman had other shots he took himself off the mafias mind and now you give them reason worry? I don't want any 'well maybe this or that or what if"
In fact don't respond to this I'm not getting into anything that could be.
Now can Wheat flip flop any harder?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I like that you asked this question, because I thought the same thing myself (before I looked at Audinho's post sideways and figured out his intent).
Iso's difficult, but I don't think he's scum any more. Prophylaxis, on the other hand, definitely needs more pressure.
Man you too?:rolleyes: Guardman I hope you have the sense to ignore these questions.
So, you can meta yourself?
High horse?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Then the counterclaim came and DRey flipped town. This made me lean a bit.
Then the roleblock claim came. This could be suspicious or the fact that the scum knew he was a PR due to his own admission and blocked him.
Now, Dan is claiming an investigative role. Which casts scum on Iso and leaves Dan open to a possible RB.
I need more information on Iso and Dan's counter-counterclaim before I feel comfortable in changing my Day One pre-claim stance on Iso.
No, I'm just saying that I have yet to CC someone as scum. I'm sure it'll happen someday. But as it stands, any time I've been meta'd, I could point to a time when I've done whatever I was doing as the other alignment, IIRC.
No. Just pissed.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
As for dan's claim, I currently have no reason to disbelieve it.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
This coming on the heels of "DRey cannot possibly be town" because of the role being too similar, I'm not inclined to believe you're town.
And if the last time you CC'd someone you were both town, then why did you CC this time?
Hayate Yagami was not a morning person. And as her luck would have it, a fair number of the quarantined were. She still held out hope for the few that were equally as slow to get up as herself - maybe they could share war stories over a cup of coffee. Or tea, if that's what people here preferred. At least she doesn't ask for milk like some people...
And that's when the room was filled with white light, burning the young woman's retinas as the flare of magic cascaded over the room.
"I swear, this has to stop being a thing that happens..." The commander muttered to herself, before counting people once her vision returned. Still eighteen? still eighteen. Good.
At least everyone was wide awake now...
Vote Count
Iso (6) - Archmage_Eternal, Cyouni, Guardman, ganderin_dan, Arcadic, Tordeck
Megiddo (4) - Prophylaxis, Iso, Wheat_Grinder, Audinho
Prophylaxis (2) - Seppel, AsianInvasion
AsianInvasion (1) - GrickyTimmick
With 18 alive, it's still 10 to lynch.
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If every time you CC someone you both turn up town, doesn't something ever go off saying "hmm, maybe I shouldn't do that anymore?"
Also you didn't think he was scum. You were all like "cool he's the tracker" and then you went ahead and CC'd him like two posts later.
Your story is rife with contradictions.
OP shows no new deaths, even with looking for white text. 18 alive, 5 dead (not counting the pregame death), 23 altogether.
My guess: Something happened, but no deaths occurred. Whether it was a failed dayvig or some other day ability, who knows.