pari- you actually got a point there. didn't think that far. could you tell me who your top scum suspects are right now?
Right now, considering everything that has occurred I suspect:
Void - Obvious.
Anak - Has provided almost no actual participation in the game.
Drey - pushing this latest move, combined with how I felt immediately after Iso's lynch has tipped him onto my list.
This does mean I he may be taking both of them for quite the road trip.
Also, if I think of the game in the light that Drey has been bussing void since day 1 and we just failed spectacularly, then the sequence of votes on the proph wagon makes more sense:
As far as I'm aware it wasn't a case on wolf, just an assessment of his play thus far.
Void asked some reasonable questions that I believed were good enough that they should have been addressed by Wolf. Wolf declined to do so, and so made an entrance into my suspicions.
Yes, you want me to say it again?
THE EXAMPLE GIVEN IN THE OP IS IDENTICAL IN FORMAT TO THE VANILLA TOWN ROLE PM.
The only difference is flavor.
The first time I read the OP I noticed it, anyone who had read both a vanilla town PM and OP should have too.
That post isn't directly about fluffy's town status, it is about why he had to check his PM multiple times to respond.
I said there were a few reasons I saw, specifically:
I would have been happy if he was a power role and had to check his PM to fabricate a convincing answer. was that he was vanilla and wasn't observant enough to even notice the similarity between the OP example and his PM. was that he was scum and you were an idiot for believing him.
It has been clearly shown that my reaction to fluffy is currently :-/.
My thought then was that two players as experienced as what you and Iso make yourselves out to be would not be so bad at this game as to be unable to communicate your town status to each other.
Wolf flipping town did cause me to back off a bit, but I'm considering you again due to my dislike of the no lynch proposition.
That was before I thoroughly assessed fluffy's position, his unhelpful mindlessness was something that made me exceedingly suspicious and I though it would be good to see how he responded to my request.
That was the post where I miscounted the votes needed to lynch. I thought it was well covered that that post was mostly false because of that (the only valid conclusion was of fluffy's town-ness).
Since I'd already requested he claim I could not change it.
I counted 4 votes on me. One more to end the game.
LK:
At the beginning of Day 3 DRey was my prime suspect and say him trying to seize control of the game... Again. I was in no way going to let that happen after Iso flipped town. I based the gambit of off Iso who also agreed that DRey is scum. I thought by going with the most experinced player in this game that I would get some benefits from it. However, as I stated earlier, all it took was for the scum discredit anything I said. And look what happened. Almost everyone went against what I was saying. It was a horrible gambit that I didn't think out all that well. So now here we are with me being one vote away from a lynch and the mafia team having a Perfect Mafia Victory.
I counted 4 votes on me. One more to end the game.
LK:
At the beginning of Day 3 DRey was my prime suspect and say seeing him trying to seize control of the game... Again. I was in no way going to let that happen after Iso flipped town. I based the gambit of off Iso who also agreed that DRey is scum. I thought by going with the most experinced player in this game that I would get some benefits from it. However, as I stated earlier, all it took was for the scum discredit anything I said. And look what happened. Almost everyone went against what I was saying. It was a horrible gambit that I didn't think out all that well. So now here we are with me being one vote away from a lynch and the mafia team having a Perfect Mafia Victory.
I counted 4 votes on me. One more to end the game.
LK:
At the beginning of Day 3 DRey was my prime suspect and say him trying to seize control of the game... Again. I was in no way going to let that happen after Iso flipped town. I based the gambit of off Iso who also agreed that DRey is scum. I thought by going with the most experinced player in this game that I would get some benefits from it. However, as I stated earlier, all it took was for the scum discredit anything I said. And look what happened. Almost everyone went against what I was saying. It was a horrible gambit that I didn't think out all that well. So now here we are with me being one vote away from a lynch and the mafia team having a Perfect Mafia Victory.
Your reasoning this whole game was terrible, and I know you are not that bad from previous experiences. If you are really town you and Iso (atrocious play) deserve a big chunk of blame for our defeat. But I don't really believe that so...
*crosses fingers*
unvote, vote Void
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Let this game be a lesson for all new players. Allowing scum to lurk like I did makes them really hard to find anything to pin on them, if you don't go after them for lurking. Drey made a few minor threats, but I was not being punished for sitting in the shadows. Sure, you guys agreed to lynch me tomorrow, maybe, but I should have been strung up long ago if I didn't actually start doing things. You guys let me sit back and watch while you guys imploded.
Though, I could do that in part because of my awesome scummates. GG you guys (I will let you reveal yourselves)
this defeat was totally deserved, congratulation Len, you has just gained my respect, scum MVP for sure. Pari was also good. Anak was obvious scum.
Iso should never lied about being a cop and Void should never done anything he has done.
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I'm ashamed of myself, this is like one of my worst town performances in a long time.
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I was anxious, but not anymore. The game is over...
EWP: So it was really Eron's? Man I need to take a break from Mafia, I was so off the whole game.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I wasn't really your fault that much. People bought in to a really terrible argument for you being scum without much thought, then let me go for my hammer with minor questioning. Your flip should have at least killed me, so don't blame yourself that much.
I can link to the spectator chat now, if anyone wants it.
Please do, I'm expecting the worse from the spectators.
And you were not bad, I really wasn't sure you were scum, I was taken aback by the sudden hammer. I didn't really expect people to hammer so fast without questioning my 180° the funniest part is that scumLen was the only one that questioned it.
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I wasn't really your fault that much. People bought in to a really terrible argument for you being scum without much thought, then let me go for my hammer with minor questioning. Your flip should have at least killed me, so don't blame yourself that much.
This. I put the blame in Iso, his play sucked soooo much. I was so sure he was scum...
I hope he (and you Void) learns his lesson, town should not lie 99% of the times.
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Well, I'm happy the game is over with. I will say this may have been worst town performance yet. (Maybe worse than my first game here Basic #40 The Last Air Bender). Scum team you deserved after Proph was lynched. Good job on the Night 1 Role Cop of WWaB. I would have never suspected WWaB of being the Doc. I only helped you out when I posted my thoughts on his play.
BTW I knew Void was town because he slipped in the Circu Du Freak spectator chat. I just ignored it because I shouldn't have this information in the first hand, that's one more example why spectators chat is a bad idea...
Void has slipped twice already.
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Meh. Terrible town performance overall, my own included. Well done, scumteam.
Len kept sending up red flags but I kept ignoring them because I was SO SURE she was town. -_-
She's also the reason I very suddenly lost my town read on DRey - which was probably the linchpin that toppled the town tower.
Sorry for pushing Proph into the ground, guys. Judgment error.
I also lied about what my ability did - I didn't learn the player's alignment when I targeted them. I just wanted the scum to be afraid of me.
Void, I wanted to give you a for following my reads after my death, as I always nag everyone to do that...you just so happened to choose the one game I had no correct scum reads in to do that. But thank you anyway. Though your gambit is probably a big reason why the town lost, in addition to my spectacularly awful reads.
Scum MVP tie for Len (for being so town while I was alive that she fooled us all) and DoubleX (for also being super townie, but replacing out).
Also, I was disappointed no one picked up on Len's slip that I took note of in the Spectator chat.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, town didn't even notice that Anak never had to claim in the mass-claim, did they? Or did I just miss his claim?
I claimed. Simply that I was vanilla town. Though, if I had been town, I would have been very upset (like I was) about how the order of it all was determined. At some point I just had to bite the bullet, and claim, but that really bugged me.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Flavor: Your a beatiful woman that has settled into a house and realized you are married to an old man that is RICH!
All that Columbian experience has taught you how to get rid of people and make it look like an accident. But to get all the money you need to get rid of everyone in the family.
Abilities: During the night you may PM the name of a player you wish to track. If that person goes anywhere I will tell you whom they visited. You may also communicate with your crew (link) here during the night to plan out your way to win.
Win Condition: You win when the equal or outnumber the town and nothing can prevent this.
Anaklusmos:
Role: Dede Pritchett - Goon
Flavor: You divorced Jay. Left your family and now you find your ex with a new and younger woman. She talks to you about getting the money and spliting it.
All you think is Revenge and smile.
Abilities: During the night you may sumbit the kill on behave of the mafia team. You may also communicate with your crew here during the night to plan out your way to win.
Win Condition: You win when the equal or outnumber the town and nothing can prevent this.
LenKenneth:
Role: Alex Dunphy - Mafia Roleblocker
Flavor: You are the brains of the family. You get straight A's, your excel in your class and your sick and tired of your family. They embarrass you and you wish they were all dead.
Abilities: During the night you may either sumbit a name of a player you wish to prevent having any actions during the night or during the night you may sumbit the kill on behave of the mafia team.
You may also communicate with your crew here during the night to plan out your way to win.
Win Condition: You win when the equal or outnumber the town and nothing can prevent this.
TOWN:
Prophylaxix
Jay Pritchett - Cop
Flavor: Being the head patriarch of the whole family, makes you the person who knows everyone, you just can't remember in your old age who was the family members you can trust or not.
Abilities: During the night you may PM, me the name of a player. You will be told if the player is guilty or innocent.
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
BlueElectric/Iso
Cameron Tucker - 2-shot Chaterbox
Flavor: You’re the person in charge of the house, but you are a socail butterfly that must get to know whomever you can. Meeting and talking to people and chatting it up with some gossip is tons of fun.
Abilities: Twice per game during the night you may PM a name of a player that is alive who you will be come neighborized with that player. A QT will be created in which you 2 may discuss your thoughts further.
You can only target one player during the game and can not target another player in the game a second time until/unless the person you first neighborized dies.
You will not be informed of the player’s true alignment.
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
Mod note: When I created the original concept I called this a neighborizor, not chatterbox.
Wolf with a Bass:
Claire Dunphy - Doctor
Flavor: You are the home maker, wife and mother of 3 children. You feel the need to mother them every day for the rest of their lives. You are a caregiver and have the unique desire to make sure everyone survivors.
Abilities: During the night you may PM me a name of a player you wish to protect from a night kill. If that player is targeted during the night by a night kill they will not die thanks to you.
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
Void
Manny Delgado - Townie
Flavor: You’re mature for your age. You have an much more sense of maturity then those your age, but you are cursed by your desire to find love. You stumble hard trying to woo that special someone.
Abilities: None
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
fluffynOOB
Mitchell Pritchett - Townie
Flavor: The lawyer of the family, who is more low-key then the rest of the family. Your comfortable being out of the closest, you just wish at times you husband wasn't so flamboyantly guy.
Abilities: None
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
The Cold Monarch
Haley Dunphy - Townie
Flavor: You’re the eldest daughter of Phil and Claire Dunphy. You care more about your social status then what is going on in the family.
Abilities: None
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
Drey
Phil Dunphy - Townie
Flavor: You’re the goofy dad that wants to be everyone's best friend. Your so busy goofing around you forgets about being responsible.
Abilities: None
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
Parinoid:
Lily Tucker - Townie
Flavor: You are daughter to Cameron and Mitchell. You’re just a baby so all you can really do is cry, sleep and babble.
Abilities: None
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
Brinatoo
Luke Dunphy - Townie
Flavor: Some people might call you special....well your mom does. You are more busy having fun, goofing around and trying to find ways to torment your sisters then to worry about what is going on.
Abilities: None
Win Condition: You win when all mafia members are evicted from the household
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town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
Everyone in the family turns to Manny.
Is it possible this sweet boy could be responsible for the deaths in this house?
"Well" says Phil "look at the mustache he has in that picture. He tried to disguise himself."
Everyone else agrees with this logic and hang Manny by his neck.
Meanwhile while Manny struggles for his last breath.
Gloria looks over to Dede
Gloria: "No one even seeeeeen you"
See smiles.
Dede: "It's time".
Alex nods and they gather around the last remaining family members.
Mitchel: "But why?" he ask horrified
Gloria: "Moooonneeeeey"
Dede: "With everyone in this family dead Gloria and Alex are the soul survivors of all that money your dad makes. They agreed to cut me in and I was more then happy to help after your dad treated me."
With the family dead.
Gloria, Dede and Alex, sit and drink in celebration over their victory.
Alex: "Now who's going to clean this mess?"
*Audience laughs*
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mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
Trying to flavor claim can be useless. Sometimes it depends on the mod. I try for a basic game not to let flavor gaming be part of it but I worried a bit about having Gloria and Dede as part of the scum team.
It why I made sure one of the kids was part of the scum team so no flavor gaming would enter the equation.
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mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Well, it's also good to know even people who have played many games can still have a terrible one occasionally.
Means I won't be relying on peoples experience as much I did here.
Also what exactly did I do to set myself on so many scum lists towards the end?
I agree that a Tracker + Roleblocker is overpowered, given that we had an information role, a weaker information role, and a Doc.
But it's definitely not a Mini.
I'm going to agree that in restrospect I think the town needed one more power role. I was worried with the neighbor (who although doesn't know who their talking is town or scum) can confirm people just by conversation alone.
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mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
RBer + Tracker isn't too OP, especially against the insane power house of Doc+Cop. The Chatterbox is weak, but the mafia tracker functions basically no different to a role cop.
Out of curiosity Pinky, who reviewed this?
EDIT: I see AI and CPE did. How did you guys let the town have a Cop+Doc?!
Review thread: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/DdeJtLzXEgcr
I rarely allow a cop and a doc in the same Basic setup, but I'm OK with tinkering with the status quo once in a while. If anything, the one change I would make would be to turn the mafia tracker into a watcher instead (because follow-the-cop is stupid).
I'm going to agree that in restrospect I think the town needed one more power role. I was worried with the neighbor (who although doesn't know who their talking is town or scum) can confirm people just by conversation alone.
Nah, town was fine, cop+doc is very, very strong, putting a tracker plus a roleblocker is just evening the field. Why do you think a mason maker could easily confirm people? I certainly didn't confirm Tan (nor he confirmed me) on StarTrek just because we could talk to each other.
"This setup should work fine assuming the RBer doesn't get lynched D1. :P"
^That is the precise reason why you shouldn't have Doc+Cop without a fail safe like a backup roleblocker, and even that is still not a great setup.
When any setup needs "any" assumption to work it probably means it's not good.
That being said I don't quite agree it was a bad setup, a roleblocker+track are as strong as a doc+cop+mason maker imho, I think the balance is just fine. I liked it and I think it is basic material.
I'm still angry with Iso though, the more I think about it, the more I notice we lost just because of him.
-he "CCe'd" the cop, without being one
-he fakeclaimed to be cop and his power usage
-he self hammered and joined another game with "hey i'm now playing on just two games, so change me from /replace to /in"
That's exactly the nightmare example I provided somewhere in the game, where a single player dooms the whole town by falseclaiming as town. Thoroughly disapointed.
I think Fluffy, Proph and Brin have played much better than Iso this game, and I'm being completely serious.
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I disagree, may I remind you Iso's role was not as convoluted as he "advertised" it to be.
Nah, town was fine, cop+doc is very, very strong, putting a tracker plus a roleblocker is just evening the field. Why do you think a mason maker could easily confirm people? I certainly didn't confirm Tan (nor he confirmed me) on StarTrek just because we could talk to each other.
I remember in StarTrek even though you did not know for sure that Tan was town or scum you had a much strong town read on him and believed him after he targetted you.
I also recall he believed you and Arcadic to be town after that happened as well based on conversations.
I personally have only had one game in which scum was given a role to neighborize others. That was really, really beastly game.
Just a quick note:
The next game I will be modding here will be a mini.
All Power Roles, no Vanilla roles.
You have been warned.
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Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
Right now, considering everything that has occurred I suspect:
Void - Obvious.
Anak - Has provided almost no actual participation in the game.
Drey - pushing this latest move, combined with how I felt immediately after Iso's lynch has tipped him onto my list.
This does mean I he may be taking both of them for quite the road trip.
Also, if I think of the game in the light that Drey has been bussing void since day 1 and we just failed spectacularly, then the sequence of votes on the proph wagon makes more sense:
Also to address specific points in Drey's list:
As far as I'm aware it wasn't a case on wolf, just an assessment of his play thus far.
Void asked some reasonable questions that I believed were good enough that they should have been addressed by Wolf. Wolf declined to do so, and so made an entrance into my suspicions.
Yes, you want me to say it again?
THE EXAMPLE GIVEN IN THE OP IS IDENTICAL IN FORMAT TO THE VANILLA TOWN ROLE PM.
The only difference is flavor.
The first time I read the OP I noticed it, anyone who had read both a vanilla town PM and OP should have too.
That post isn't directly about fluffy's town status, it is about why he had to check his PM multiple times to respond.
I said there were a few reasons I saw, specifically:
I would have been happy if he was a power role and had to check his PM to fabricate a convincing answer.
It has been clearly shown that my reaction to fluffy is currently :-/.
Funny thing about that, I voted to test both of you. Iso failed by going OMGUS, then flailing under pressure.
He only suspected me because I voted for him. I think his line of reasoning on you was just a smidge more convincing.
That'd be a valid point if you were actually town.
My thought then was that two players as experienced as what you and Iso make yourselves out to be would not be so bad at this game as to be unable to communicate your town status to each other.
Wolf flipping town did cause me to back off a bit, but I'm considering you again due to my dislike of the no lynch proposition.
I wasn't unhappy that the doc was dead, I was disappointed that my read was so wrong. I had Wolf heavily pegged as scum if Iso flipped town.
That was before I thoroughly assessed fluffy's position, his unhelpful mindlessness was something that made me exceedingly suspicious and I though it would be good to see how he responded to my request.
That was the post where I miscounted the votes needed to lynch. I thought it was well covered that that post was mostly false because of that (the only valid conclusion was of fluffy's town-ness).
Since I'd already requested he claim I could not change it.
I'm certain you realize that the same can be said of you, since you are also in each of those lists as well.
I am also ready to vote.
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Vote Void.
I was going to explain more when I logged in tonight, but I can that this is too late now.
LK:
At the beginning of Day 3 DRey was my prime suspect and say him trying to seize control of the game... Again. I was in no way going to let that happen after Iso flipped town. I based the gambit of off Iso who also agreed that DRey is scum. I thought by going with the most experinced player in this game that I would get some benefits from it. However, as I stated earlier, all it took was for the scum discredit anything I said. And look what happened. Almost everyone went against what I was saying. It was a horrible gambit that I didn't think out all that well. So now here we are with me being one vote away from a lynch and the mafia team having a Perfect Mafia Victory.
Fixed
*crosses fingers*
unvote, vote Void
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
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Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
We as in you and anak the scum team? Then no.
inb4 PB posts: DRey, Anak and parinoid scum team.
Though, I could do that in part because of my awesome scummates. GG you guys (I will let you reveal yourselves)
Sure luck came into play a bit, but thats part of the game sometimes.
this defeat was totally deserved, congratulation Len, you has just gained my respect, scum MVP for sure. Pari was also good. Anak was obvious scum.
Iso should never lied about being a cop and Void should never done anything he has done.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
You should quit accusing Parinoid of being scum.
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Curse PremiumI can link to the spectator chat now, if anyone wants it.
EWP: So it was really Eron's? Man I need to take a break from Mafia, I was so off the whole game.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I wasn't really your fault that much. People bought in to a really terrible argument for you being scum without much thought, then let me go for my hammer with minor questioning. Your flip should have at least killed me, so don't blame yourself that much.
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Curse PremiumAnd you were not bad, I really wasn't sure you were scum, I was taken aback by the sudden hammer. I didn't really expect people to hammer so fast without questioning my 180° the funniest part is that scumLen was the only one that questioned it.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I hope he (and you Void) learns his lesson, town should not lie 99% of the times.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Void has slipped twice already.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Len kept sending up red flags but I kept ignoring them because I was SO SURE she was town. -_-
She's also the reason I very suddenly lost my town read on DRey - which was probably the linchpin that toppled the town tower.
Sorry for pushing Proph into the ground, guys. Judgment error.
I also lied about what my ability did - I didn't learn the player's alignment when I targeted them. I just wanted the scum to be afraid of me.
Void, I wanted to give you a
Scum MVP tie for Len (for being so town while I was alive that she fooled us all) and DoubleX (for also being super townie, but replacing out).
Also, I was disappointed no one picked up on Len's slip that I took note of in the Spectator chat.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You pointed it out and I thought you were super town so it was a big "oh ****" moment for me.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I claimed. Simply that I was vanilla town. Though, if I had been town, I would have been very upset (like I was) about how the order of it all was determined. At some point I just had to bite the bullet, and claim, but that really bugged me.
That's why I lied about my ability, derf.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Storyline will be up in a few but lets first congradulate the scum team:
Anak
Len
Eron (doubleX/Squeege)
In my view the MVP for the scum team goes to Len.
I don't think until Iso was lynched that anyone thought Len was scum this game.
GG
EBWOP: I too thought doubleX did great replacing but for me to give someone an MVP it needs to be someone who was here the most in the game.
I honestly can not for the life of me find one person as town that was MVP.
Sooooo many bad, bad things I almost cried.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, congrats Pinky! You ran the game very well, in a timely manner, with a set-up that was both powerful and balanced. Good job!
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/pxKGmLN5i8nJs
mafia
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/NLZdF4yZTkb7T
chatter box
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/hBeQmJnwbZJ
Spectator
ROLES:
Mafia:
Squeege/DoubleX/Eron:
Anaklusmos:
LenKenneth:
TOWN:
Prophylaxix
BlueElectric/Iso
Mod note: When I created the original concept I called this a neighborizor, not chatterbox.
Wolf with a Bass:
Void
fluffynOOB
The Cold Monarch
Drey
Parinoid:
Brinatoo
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
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Also known at mafiascum as farside22
Is it possible this sweet boy could be responsible for the deaths in this house?
"Well" says Phil "look at the mustache he has in that picture. He tried to disguise himself."
Everyone else agrees with this logic and hang Manny by his neck.
Meanwhile while Manny struggles for his last breath.
Gloria looks over to Dede
Gloria: "No one even seeeeeen you"
See smiles.
Dede: "It's time".
Alex nods and they gather around the last remaining family members.
Mitchel: "But why?" he ask horrified
Gloria: "Moooonneeeeey"
Dede: "With everyone in this family dead Gloria and Alex are the soul survivors of all that money your dad makes. They agreed to cut me in and I was more then happy to help after your dad treated me."
With the family dead.
Gloria, Dede and Alex, sit and drink in celebration over their victory.
Alex: "Now who's going to clean this mess?"
*Audience laughs*
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
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Also known at mafiascum as farside22
Certainly learned what not to do as town.
Would it have?
It why I made sure one of the kids was part of the scum team so no flavor gaming would enter the equation.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
can you please rename this to a mini? basic is false advertising.
Wins/Losses/Draws
13/2/1
But it's definitely not a Mini.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Well, it's also good to know even people who have played many games can still have a terrible one occasionally.
Means I won't be relying on peoples experience as much I did here.
Also what exactly did I do to set myself on so many scum lists towards the end?
I'm going to agree that in restrospect I think the town needed one more power role. I was worried with the neighbor (who although doesn't know who their talking is town or scum) can confirm people just by conversation alone.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
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Also known at mafiascum as farside22
You probably would have been a bit better off if you didn't lynch the un-CC'd cop, then false-claimed with your first post D2.
Out of curiosity Pinky, who reviewed this?
EDIT: I see AI and CPE did. How did you guys let the town have a Cop+Doc?!
I rarely allow a cop and a doc in the same Basic setup, but I'm OK with tinkering with the status quo once in a while. If anything, the one change I would make would be to turn the mafia tracker into a watcher instead (because follow-the-cop is stupid).
^That is the precise reason why you shouldn't have Doc+Cop without a fail safe like a backup roleblocker, and even that is still not a great setup.
Nah, town was fine, cop+doc is very, very strong, putting a tracker plus a roleblocker is just evening the field. Why do you think a mason maker could easily confirm people? I certainly didn't confirm Tan (nor he confirmed me) on StarTrek just because we could talk to each other.
When any setup needs "any" assumption to work it probably means it's not good.
That being said I don't quite agree it was a bad setup, a roleblocker+track are as strong as a doc+cop+mason maker imho, I think the balance is just fine. I liked it and I think it is basic material.
I'm still angry with Iso though, the more I think about it, the more I notice we lost just because of him.
-he "CCe'd" the cop, without being one
-he fakeclaimed to be cop and his power usage
-he self hammered and joined another game with "hey i'm now playing on just two games, so change me from /replace to /in"
That's exactly the nightmare example I provided somewhere in the game, where a single player dooms the whole town by falseclaiming as town. Thoroughly disapointed.
I think Fluffy, Proph and Brin have played much better than Iso this game, and I'm being completely serious.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I remember in StarTrek even though you did not know for sure that Tan was town or scum you had a much strong town read on him and believed him after he targetted you.
I also recall he believed you and Arcadic to be town after that happened as well based on conversations.
I personally have only had one game in which scum was given a role to neighborize others. That was really, really beastly game.
Just a quick note:
The next game I will be modding here will be a mini.
All Power Roles, no Vanilla roles.
You have been warned.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
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