the lack of doing anything helpful or anything that could be conceived as pro-town is why.
This exchange basically sums it up. You're playing "Mafia genie" such that whenever someone rubs your lamp enough, you show up and say, "No, I'm not going to say anything at this time." I really want to know why. Your associations might help me with that.
I have nothing to contribute.
Frankly, I'm getting sick of mafia.
If I'm impulsive, (as I am in rl), I'm mislynched.
If I stay quiet, people accuse me of lurking. Chibi is scum, imo.
About the bolded: Why? If you continue to camp out on that vote given Chibi's claim and the conversation afterwards, I either have to presume you entirely lazy town, or scum. Help me make this distinction. Do you not understand why we think he isn't scum since his claim? Even Shalako, who was pushing the Chibi lynch, has aknowledged this.
@Kill-joy, I hardly think Shalako's actions have been pro town. They have not been scummy, (like that total bogus claim by Chibi), but all they seem to be doing is distracting me.
Arti seems to be a bit scrambled. I think other's cluttering the pages with useless garbage has warped his mind somehow. However, he was protecting the person I think most scummy, (which I said much earlier), and now voting for me after speaking against Yanni for so long, and his so called scummy behavior.
This makes me slightly more suspicious of Arti, but not enough to change votes.
Chibi's claim is fake, imo. Nothing about it rang true.
Nothing. I doubt he/she's even Geth.
@Kill-joy, I hardly think Shalako's actions have been pro town. They have not been scummy, (like that total bogus claim by Chibi), but all they seem to be doing is distracting me.
Arti seems to be a bit scrambled. I think other's cluttering the pages with useless garbage has warped his mind somehow. However, he was protecting the person I think most scummy, (which I said much earlier), and now voting for me after speaking against Yanni for so long, and his so called scummy behavior.
This makes me slightly more suspicious of Arti, but not enough to change votes.
Chibi's claim is fake, imo. Nothing about it rang true.
Nothing. I doubt he/she's even Geth.
Did you see my post where I mentioned Chibi's Very Early Game post? The one where he breadcrumbs that he's not a planeswalker in reply to Derpsmith's observation about multiple Jaces and stuff?
And I'm either suspicious scum or I'm town. Pick one. You can't say I'm suspicious town. So you actually think I'm scum? If so, why?
Part one of my case against you would be if you choose to not answer reasonable questions, by the way.
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@Arti, I got your case right here. Stop acting like you're wearing big boy pants. I said you seem scummy. And yea, as I have been told thousands of times, you seem really scummy for town. Until I see you do something more scummy than the crap you've been spouting, you are still town.
If I thought you were scum I'd say so. As I hardly give two craps what you think or do. You know this.
It seems like you're trying to act as if you are the town sherrif, and to my knowlege, you're not. Really, it's annoying, especially when I'm trying my best to stay focused.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some better things to do.
So are you just voting Chibi because other people are? And if so, which people?
Do you have your own reasons for voting Chibi? If so please present them, or refer to them with links/quote.
And no, not town sherrif, but for sure an active scum hunter. I need to be sure of your alignment, and at the moment I have you firmly scummy because you won't present your own reasons for why Chibi was scummy before his claim. I see why you've said you dismiss his claim, although your reasoning there is weak as well.
My issue is you are camping out. Answer me this: do you consider mislynching town acceptable?
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@Kill-joy, I hardly think Shalako's actions have been pro town. They have not been scummy, (like that total bogus claim by Chibi), but all they seem to be doing is distracting me.
Arti seems to be a bit scrambled. I think other's cluttering the pages with useless garbage has warped his mind somehow. However, he was protecting the person I think most scummy, (which I said much earlier), and now voting for me after speaking against Yanni for so long, and his so called scummy behavior.
This makes me slightly more suspicious of Arti, but not enough to change votes.
Chibi's claim is fake, imo. Nothing about it rang true.
Nothing. I doubt he/she's even Geth.
The last time I checked, I had a *****. It might have switched around on me.
About Geth:
If I was faking, or lying, wouldn't I have picked a claim that actually made sense? Read scott pilgrim vs the Mafia. THe Ex's were town as well as scum. Try not to flavor game. It bites you in the ass.
@Chibi, it has nothing to do with flavor gaming. Who said Geth was evil?
Good/Evil are in the eye of the Beholder.
@Arti, you're just looking for a fight. Now that Yanni is here, you need a new punching bag?
I agreed with what someone said. It wasn't because of who said it. It wasn't because I was just yesmanning. I genuinely feel/felt Chibi is/was scum.
I gave my reasons, and even mentioned if I had been online, I would have said the things Yanni said myself.
I could care less what everyone else thinks. I could care less what others votes are.
This is what I think.
Now deal with it, and from now on address me as Mr. DigicoolDad or I will not respond to you.
@Chibi, it has nothing to do with flavor gaming. Who said Geth was evil?
Good/Evil are in the eye of the Beholder.
@Arti, you're just looking for a fight. Now that Yanni is here, you need a new punching bag?
I agreed with what someone said. It wasn't because of who said it. It wasn't because I was just yesmanning. I genuinely feel/felt Chibi is/was scum.
I gave my reasons, and even mentioned if I had been online, I would have said the things Yanni said myself.
I could care less what everyone else thinks. I could care less what others votes are.
This is what I think.
Now deal with it, and from now on address me as Mr. DigicoolDad or I will not respond to you.
@Chibi, I didn't know you had a *****, nor do I care.
Useless.
Does scum have daychat, chibi? I'm always curious. You never answer me.
You seemed unclear on my gender. I wished to rectify the situation.
The thing about you is that when you calm down and think through things, you are a pretty good scumhunter.
So, digi, use that head of yours and think.
Who seems scummy? Consider motives also. Why would they post this?
Try and find actual scum.
(Lurking =\= thinking)
@Arti, you're just looking for a fight. Now that Yanni is here, you need a new punching bag?
No, I need to know if you are town or not. I believe you are letting your outside the game loyalties keep you from seeing clearly. If I cannot convince you of this, I must help get you voted out of the game. I will be more than happy to stop voting you when I am confident you are town.
Please stop acting like I am fighting with you. I am trying to discuss with you.
I agreed with what someone said. It wasn't because of who said it. It wasn't because I was just yesmanning. I genuinely feel/felt Chibi is/was scum.
I gave my reasons, and even mentioned if I had been online, I would have said the things Yanni said myself.
Have you considered that Yanni may be your friend, but may also be scum in this game, kind of like in Smilies where you barned things he said several times Day 1?
I could care less what everyone else thinks. I could care less what others votes are.
This is what I think.
Now deal with it, and from now on address me as Mr. DigicoolDad or I will not respond to you.
This is an incredibly scummy mindset. You can't be an island in this game. Even scum have to appear town. You are failing at even that.
Really think. Why are you behaving this way? I want it to be what Shalako said, but I'm not hearing that from you exactly. I feel more like you are actively trying to be lurking scum. Its blatently obvious. As a frequent poster in all forums, you don't have that option IMO.
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Any reason you chose to target Chibi and not Yanni? I mean you really wern't going to fool everyone with this "tactic". Once again it just looks like bullying a newer player.. I am no ok with your methods Shalako. FOS Shalako
Clearly Chibi belieived him hence why he spewed the info. Do you really think that Chibi's reaction is fake? What makes you think that?
You've changed your stance on Chibi, so the second line of exchange is no longer valid, yes?
On "1" I'll go dig up everything vezok has said and ask you if you agree with them, if you wish. You seem to have changed your mind on that wagon. Am I wrong?
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I'm fairly certain sure you're scum, Chibi.
And I know I said he/she, but telling us about your ***** is a bit much. A simple, 'ay yo digi, I'm a guy, homes' would have been much more acceptable.
And nah. I get mislynched when I open up.
You know that. Is that why you want me to do what I normally do? So my votes switch around at the drop of a dime, and my impulsivness is mistaken for scumminess? Is that your plan?
Are you and Art scum buddies?
Are ya'll messaging each other? How does that work, exactly?
You wouldn't have found Art's behavior at all strange when he was defending you, had it been someone else he was so desperatly trying to protect?
@Shalako, what are you doing? I'm so confused by all the stuff that you are saying is happening.
I'm fairly certain sure you're scum, Chibi.
And I know I said he/she, but telling us about your ***** is a bit much. A simple, 'ay yo digi, I'm a guy, homes' would have been much more acceptable.
And nah. I get mislynched when I open up.
You know that. Is that why you want me to do what I normally do? So my votes switch around at the drop of a dime, and my impulsivness is mistaken for scumminess? Is that your plan?
Are you and Art scum buddies? Are ya'll messaging each other? How does that work, exactly?
You wouldn't have found Art's behavior at all strange when he was defending you, had it been someone else he was so desperatly trying to protect?
@Shalako, what are you doing? I'm so confused by all the stuff that you are saying is happening.
In the bold: If you are scum, scum have Daychat. Understood. Please get lynched now.
And stop misreping me, I was refuting the bad wagon, which I am still by questioning your position on it. Now I think I understand it. You are scum.
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@Shalako: How do you justify your whole last post? All I see if you sitting the fence about the players on the popular, rushed wagon and rejoining the wagon and calling me town to placate me. (Let me guess: in your "pro-town mindset" you're not going to answer me? :facepalm:)
I'm fairly certain sure you're scum, Chibi.
And I know I said he/she, but telling us about your ***** is a bit much. A simple, 'ay yo digi, I'm a guy, homes' would have been much more acceptable.
And nah. I get mislynched when I open up.
You know that. Is that why you want me to do what I normally do? So my votes switch around at the drop of a dime, and my impulsivness is mistaken for scumminess? Is that your plan?
No. I didn't tell you to open up. I told you to read and use your head.
@kpaca, because I believe he's scum. Why would it be good to let scum live?
Because, his behavior during the Shalako gambit points toward him being town, REGARDLESS of his prior behavior. Furthermore, his ability may be debunked based off the results of another list, and that is combined with the fact that he has claimed a cop role (more powerful than doc imo) of some sort. If you are 100% sure he is scum, he will still be scum tomorrow. It would make immensely more sense to lynch someone else today.
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Because, his behavior during the Shalako gambit points toward him being town, REGARDLESS of his prior behavior. Furthermore, his ability may be debunked based off the results of another list, and that is combined with the fact that he has claimed a cop role (more powerful than doc imo) of some sort. If you are 100% sure he is scum, he will still be scum tomorrow. It would make immensely more sense to lynch someone else today.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm not misrepping you at all, Arti.
I'm saying things to Chibi. You can't take heat very well though, scum. At least Chibi has some composure. unvote chibi, vote artifice
All Artifice is doing is looking for a seemingly innocent target. That, to me, is scumtastic. He switched from Yanni to me the second he saw an oppertunity.
"Yanni is scum, but he's not here:( Let's pick on Digi, gais, he'll be easier to lynch than yanni anyway, what with his horrible meta"
@Chibi, Art seems like he's defending you. Why?
And if you say anything remotely close to what Art has heen saying, Ill do the same thing he did with me. As it is unacceptable to agree with someone, apparently.
You seemed unclear on my gender. I wished to rectify the situation.
The thing about you is that when you calm down and think through things, you are a pretty good scumhunter.
So, digi, use that head of yours and think.
Who seems scummy? Consider motives also. Why would they post this?
Try and find actual scum.
(Lurking =\= thinking)
If I am to consider motives, how am I not to consider why he was defending you?
Because, his behavior during the Shalako gambit points toward him being town, REGARDLESS of his prior behavior. Furthermore, his ability may be debunked based off the results of another list, and that is combined with the fact that he has claimed a cop role (more powerful than doc imo) of some sort. If you are 100% sure he is scum, he will still be scum tomorrow. It would make immensely more sense to lynch someone else today.
The first part makes sense. But I'm not about to vote for someone or unvote someone because someone else thinks I'm wrong.
In any case my vote has changed.
Arti is way more scum. And if/when he flips scum, his defending Chibi will not be good for Chibi, imo.
This exchange basically sums it up. You're playing "Mafia genie" such that whenever someone rubs your lamp enough, you show up and say, "No, I'm not going to say anything at this time." I really want to know why. Your associations might help me with that.
About the bolded: Why? If you continue to camp out on that vote given Chibi's claim and the conversation afterwards, I either have to presume you entirely lazy town, or scum. Help me make this distinction. Do you not understand why we think he isn't scum since his claim? Even Shalako, who was pushing the Chibi lynch, has aknowledged this.
Yes, quite a bit actually.
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Arti seems to be a bit scrambled. I think other's cluttering the pages with useless garbage has warped his mind somehow. However, he was protecting the person I think most scummy, (which I said much earlier), and now voting for me after speaking against Yanni for so long, and his so called scummy behavior.
This makes me slightly more suspicious of Arti, but not enough to change votes.
Chibi's claim is fake, imo. Nothing about it rang true.
Nothing. I doubt he/she's even Geth.
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I'm sick of it.
I'm out until my mind changes or until I need to check again
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And I'm either suspicious scum or I'm town. Pick one. You can't say I'm suspicious town. So you actually think I'm scum? If so, why?
Part one of my case against you would be if you choose to not answer reasonable questions, by the way.
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If I thought you were scum I'd say so. As I hardly give two craps what you think or do. You know this.
It seems like you're trying to act as if you are the town sherrif, and to my knowlege, you're not. Really, it's annoying, especially when I'm trying my best to stay focused.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some better things to do.
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Invisible mode is lame guys.
Add TIK to the Town Pile too.
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Right new players forgot.
What DCD is doing right now I have only seen done by one other player.
That player was frustrated with being mislynched early in the game for his opinions.
His solution was simply to not post content in the early game.
That player was town both times he did that.
And MandersHex...is MandersHex.
I'm still waiting on replies from Art.
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Do you have your own reasons for voting Chibi? If so please present them, or refer to them with links/quote.
And no, not town sherrif, but for sure an active scum hunter. I need to be sure of your alignment, and at the moment I have you firmly scummy because you won't present your own reasons for why Chibi was scummy before his claim. I see why you've said you dismiss his claim, although your reasoning there is weak as well.
My issue is you are camping out. Answer me this: do you consider mislynching town acceptable?
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The last time I checked, I had a *****. It might have switched around on me.
About Geth:
If I was faking, or lying, wouldn't I have picked a claim that actually made sense? Read scott pilgrim vs the Mafia. THe Ex's were town as well as scum. Try not to flavor game. It bites you in the ass.
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My questions obviously.
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Good/Evil are in the eye of the Beholder.
@Arti, you're just looking for a fight. Now that Yanni is here, you need a new punching bag?
I agreed with what someone said. It wasn't because of who said it. It wasn't because I was just yesmanning. I genuinely feel/felt Chibi is/was scum.
I gave my reasons, and even mentioned if I had been online, I would have said the things Yanni said myself.
I could care less what everyone else thinks. I could care less what others votes are.
This is what I think.
Now deal with it, and from now on address me as Mr. DigicoolDad or I will not respond to you.
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Useless.
Does scum have daychat, chibi? I'm always curious. You never answer me.
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You know that time I asked you questions?
There.
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Orly?
But seriously, what makes my claim bogus then?
I did.
Geth is pretty much the "evilest" Mirran there is.(Glissa?)
It's sad how they wrecked him from the person he was
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You seemed unclear on my gender. I wished to rectify the situation.
The thing about you is that when you calm down and think through things, you are a pretty good scumhunter.
So, digi, use that head of yours and think.
Who seems scummy? Consider motives also. Why would they post this?
Try and find actual scum.
(Lurking =\= thinking)
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Please stop acting like I am fighting with you. I am trying to discuss with you.
Have you considered that Yanni may be your friend, but may also be scum in this game, kind of like in Smilies where you barned things he said several times Day 1?
This is an incredibly scummy mindset. You can't be an island in this game. Even scum have to appear town. You are failing at even that.
Really think. Why are you behaving this way? I want it to be what Shalako said, but I'm not hearing that from you exactly. I feel more like you are actively trying to be lurking scum. Its blatently obvious. As a frequent poster in all forums, you don't have that option IMO.
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Seems tots legit
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You've changed your stance on Chibi, so the second line of exchange is no longer valid, yes?
On "1" I'll go dig up everything vezok has said and ask you if you agree with them, if you wish. You seem to have changed your mind on that wagon. Am I wrong?
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And I know I said he/she, but telling us about your ***** is a bit much. A simple, 'ay yo digi, I'm a guy, homes' would have been much more acceptable.
And nah. I get mislynched when I open up.
You know that. Is that why you want me to do what I normally do? So my votes switch around at the drop of a dime, and my impulsivness is mistaken for scumminess? Is that your plan?
Are you and Art scum buddies?
Are ya'll messaging each other? How does that work, exactly?
You wouldn't have found Art's behavior at all strange when he was defending you, had it been someone else he was so desperatly trying to protect?
@Shalako, what are you doing? I'm so confused by all the stuff that you are saying is happening.
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And stop misreping me, I was refuting the bad wagon, which I am still by questioning your position on it. Now I think I understand it. You are scum.
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It was a joke. Don't make it all weird, man.
No. I didn't tell you to open up. I told you to read and use your head.
No. I don't know if he's town, but I think he is.
I don't know. Stop asking. Use google.
It would have been strange if I didn't already think he was town. Also, unless it's chainsaw (which it wasn't), defending is a null tell.
Because, his behavior during the Shalako gambit points toward him being town, REGARDLESS of his prior behavior. Furthermore, his ability may be debunked based off the results of another list, and that is combined with the fact that he has claimed a cop role (more powerful than doc imo) of some sort. If you are 100% sure he is scum, he will still be scum tomorrow. It would make immensely more sense to lynch someone else today.
Who would you like to see lynched?
Tordeck. It is who I am voting for.
I'm saying things to Chibi. You can't take heat very well though, scum. At least Chibi has some composure.
unvote chibi, vote artifice
All Artifice is doing is looking for a seemingly innocent target. That, to me, is scumtastic. He switched from Yanni to me the second he saw an oppertunity.
"Yanni is scum, but he's not here:( Let's pick on Digi, gais, he'll be easier to lynch than yanni anyway, what with his horrible meta"
@Chibi, Art seems like he's defending you. Why?
And if you say anything remotely close to what Art has heen saying, Ill do the same thing he did with me. As it is unacceptable to agree with someone, apparently.
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If I am to consider motives, how am I not to consider why he was defending you?
The first part makes sense. But I'm not about to vote for someone or unvote someone because someone else thinks I'm wrong.
In any case my vote has changed.
Arti is way more scum. And if/when he flips scum, his defending Chibi will not be good for Chibi, imo.
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Kill it with fire.
Kill it with fire.
Kill it with fire.
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So I could just shoot like six of you tonight.
Protip: you are on the list!
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Please don't shot DigicoolDad.
I believe he suffers from Zionite Syndrome.
Shoot TMM please. He's not providing nearly as much content as he does when he is town.
-Shalako.
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There is no way you guys are all town and you are all completely bonkers.
He seems normal to me.
What am I missing, if anything?
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Wait.
Have we only played that one game together TMM?
If so Nvm.
If it's not clear my posts are disjointed because i'm in Edit walls of Text land.
Also my fire fox has lost the ability to multi-quote so I'm doing it on I.E.
Forgive me.
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TMM was totally different before he got NK'd then he is acting now.
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