And you want to lynch me because Derp tried to game the mod?
Nice misrep.
No, I want to lynch you because you are scum. I wanted to observe that the "person in your seat" did something else weird, too. Why so defensive about it?
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No, I want to lynch you because you are scum. I wanted to observe that the "person in your seat" did something else weird, too. Why so defensive about it?
because you're bringing up stuff I can't control and trying to use it as evidence of something I did?
You're posts are so out of character for you.
Now answer my question
1. If my posts are logical, does that make me scum?
2. If my posts are illogical, does that make me town?
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Now answer my question
1. If my posts are logical, does that make me scum?
2. If my posts are illogical, does that make me town?
Why don't you tell me? What are the answers to these questions? As you pretend not to be satisfied with any answer I give anyway.
Those are not questions that a person can answer in the context of Mafia. What makes you scum is the intent I believe you have. I believe some of your posts are unclear, but thats completely null for you. You have a mastery of butchering the English language.
Logical or illogical, nether is directly related to scummy or townie. It is all situational.
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I suppose it boils down to this Cyouni: that was a stream of consciousness post. The bolded was me coming to the realization in my head that Yanni is scum while my gut was wanting it to just be him playing badly as usual. "Innocent until proven guilty" was where I started, but then proof kept popping into my head. Read my above post (Basic 39 quotes) for the language cues and similarity in his actions here.
One other small thing: Yanni replaced Derp. Now before anyone goes and makes some stupid response about how I'm overblowing this, why did Derp feel the need to point out this, "We may have 2 Jace's, so don't counterclaim," business?
Why don't you tell me? What are the answers to these questions? As you pretend not to be satisfied with any answer I give anyway.
Those are not questions that a person can answer in the context of Mafia. What makes you scum is the intent I believe you have. I believe some of your posts are unclear, but thats completely null for you. You have a mastery of butchering the English language.
Logical or illogical, nether is directly related to scummy or townie. It is all situational.
Your other posts tends to disagree with you.
Like a lot.
So now you're saying
Yanni's post = Unclear = Null tell cause he's usually high = town or scum.
BUT
Then you say that I was playing "townie" (IE Logical scum hunting) and I'm doing the same thing in this game, and that makes me scum?
You're inconsistant.
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Your other posts tends to disagree with you.
Like a lot.
So now you're saying
Yanni's post = Unclear = Null tell cause he's usually high = town or scum.
BUT
Then you say that I was playing "townie" (IE Logical scum hunting) and I'm doing the same thing in this game, and that makes me scum?
You're inconsistant.
should say
BUT
Before you say.......
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I suppose it boils down to this Cyouni: that was a stream of consciousness post. The bolded was me coming to the realization in my head that Yanni is scum while my gut was wanting it to just be him playing badly as usual. "Innocent until proven guilty" was where I started, but then proof kept popping into my head. Read my above post (Basic 39 quotes) for the language cues and similarity in his actions here.
So what distinguishes this from, say, 37, where you said he "caused town chaos"? And how come your "realization that Yanni is scum" happens twice, with the break in between being the part where you say he's "wasting a chance to lynch a scum"?
One other small thing: Yanni replaced Derp. Now before anyone goes and makes some stupid response about how I'm overblowing this, why did Derp feel the need to point out this, "We may have 2 Jace's, so don't counterclaim," business?
Derp was in and out of the game too quickly. I'd rather base my reads on Yanni's actions.
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Same flailing, illogical arguments as in Smilies.
I'm done. Vote stands.
I didn't Flail in smilies. My arguments also weren't illogical, you just can't answer my questions so you're saying "nope you're wrong"
Dude I hope someone PM's you so you get modkilled... (not really I don't hope anyone gets modkilled, that'd suck)
How are my posts spam?
Sub a few, they all have content. You're lying again and you're really pushing my policy lynch button.
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@Artifice:
Other stuff in my longer post, in case you missed it.
So what distinguishes this from, say, 37, where you said he "caused town chaos"? And how come your "realization that Yanni is scum" happens twice, with the break in between being the part where you say he's "wasting a chance to lynch a scum"?
Derp was in and out of the game too quickly. I'd rather base my reads on Yanni's actions.
@Yanni:
Let me rephrase that: why would there be a need to ask for reasons in the first place?
I answered that.
I told you I was on some stuff, and I wasn't thinking straight when I asked for reasons.
I have those moments.
At the time I probably thought everyone thought I was awesome and would know what Iwas thinking (which regular Yanni thinks "nah" to)
I still just assumed that someone would reach the logical conclusion that it was a pressure vote without me coming out and saying it.
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Except Kpaca you aren't doing anything special. We aren't lynching DCD or tordeck today if you haven't figured out.
kpaca isn't doing anything.
I understand that we aren't, but that doesn't mean I should just jump onto a wagon I am not yet sure about. I will reread later then post my stance.
Sorry for answering a question not directed at me, but I'd be fine with a PF lynch, but I perfer the Chibi lynch much more.
I don't like this. I like a PF lynch, but it seems as though Yanni is trying to show how "pro-town" he is by being open to a PF lynch, but that he still wants to lynch Chibi.
@Artifice:
So what distinguishes this from, say, 37, where you said he "caused town chaos"? And how come your "realization that Yanni is scum" happens twice, with the break in between being the part where you say he's "wasting a chance to lynch a scum"?
The capitalized parts of that post were cut-and-pasted for emphasis through repitition. Then, as I got to the bottom, I really realized what had been bothering me about his play. I reread what I had said, saw how often I had been second-guessing him in this game, and posted the "Screw it" followed by the vote. It had been nagging at me for a while.
Derp was in and out of the game too quickly. I'd rather base my reads on Yanni's actions.
Sure. Just a casual observation. I wanted to bug Derp about it, but, as we all know, nuttinessNakaness happened.
And people sit there and ignore this why? What kind of town even makes this comment?
What kind of town needs to be asked to hunt scum? (Hint: none)
I don't really know what to say, this entire game so far I've been defending one comment that I slipped up with and no matter what I say everyone thinks I'm obvious scum. Oh well.
So, you're voting Yanni because he's a "bad player". Not because he's actually scum.
WHY has he not been lynched already? How can people find Chibi or Yanni any scummier than this guy?
Whatever man, vote for me if you want and try to start a wagon. Good luck.
@Artifice:
No. I hate scum/town lists. Instead, you get something similar.
People I'd be willing to vote right now:
tordeck
pinkfloyd
tezzeret12
People I want to question more:
Artifice 101
The Ice King
Arcadic
DigicoolDad (perhaps slightly closer to the higher level)
Horseshoe_Hermit
Deathjoey
Reya
Everyone else is in "leaving them alone" or "making a note of them".
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@Horseshoe:
That happens to be nowhere near what you actually said.
Your line was "You actually think tordeck's scum?" There has to be a negation in there for it to make sense, as in: "You actually think tordeck's NOT scum?"
Nope. Once again, you'd still have no reason to "forget" to vote tordeck.
So, you'd still be willing to support both DCD and Chibi being lynched? Yes or no. You're dodging the question.
First of all, I like how anyone who disagrees with you is stupid.
Secondly, I'm pretty sure that both Chibi and Yanni are town, so I'm not bothering with that. I'm concerned more about the people who are not letting me get a good read on them by their inaction.
It seems that for whatever reason, Cyouni, I have to play under your say-so for today, if I'm going to have credibility.
One and two: (One)
That does not make any sense to me. Are we reading the same thing? Do we speak the same breed of English? What is your problem with this?
(Two)
This is the first I've heard of that question. And it makes no sense. How is that a friggin question thing that would be said to question? You know, by a person, who wants an answer, from a person?
Let me put it this way: If one is lynched and the other turns up dead both today, that was very stupid of whatever loose cannon was responsible. Unless they really were both scum, of course.
SHOOTING MUFFIN MAN WOULD BE KINDA DUMB, TOO. Not in this climate of dislikin' those neutral kills. Plus Muffin Man seems to have taken the hint any way.
" Nope. Once again, you'd still have no reason to "forget" to vote tordeck. "
So do I lie now to try and make this believable? Or just keep asserting that you're entirely wrong?
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"I honestly thought RVS hadn't ended yet.
And yes I voted for you because you are a bad player. Either you are super aggressive mafia and you will get lynched eventually or you are just a bad player destroying the town. Vote for me Yanni, and when I flip town it will just certify my claims."
So, you're voting Yanni because he's a "bad player". Not because he's actually scum.
WHY has he not been lynched already? How can people find Chibi or Yanni any scummier than this guy?
Hmm, I'll tell you what Cyouni. Let's suppose pinkfloyd really is one of the scum. You name for me a name, other than pinkfloyd, who made the Chibi-Yanni heap 'mount up' in scum's interest and explain how that kind of thing leaves clues to someone else's guilt, in detail. Then I'll explain why I thought I would change my vote after catching up today with a PBPA, and why instead I didn't.
Alternately, explain for me, pedagogically, how the actions purely of town agents could **** up so hard creating this vicious parity scenario. You know, in a theoretical sense.
You also say you want to question me. Are you hoping others will question me? Maybe everyone's caught on to the fact I can't explain jack ****, for better or worse.
Apart from that, are you saying I should keep shouting at Chibi and Yanni? I'm still figuring out what makes a good shout to make someone buckle.
If my vote were on Chibi right now, I'd unvote to get more time for this, but, hey, it's not.
Is there a courtesy we do where we at least make all of us post one time saying "I have seen the postcount" before that 11th guy votes for lynch? I'm very bothered by the idea that the game could move a phase without anyone passing me priority, as it were.
Not so much a concern as this is the weekend coming up, but I do sleep, this being out of fashion for you guys, as I began.
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Absolutely no snarkiness or challenge intended, but refering to Basics 37-39 as they are closed and over is ok, right? Triple checking.
@Cyouni:
The capitalized parts of that post were cut-and-pasted for emphasis through repitition. Then, as I got to the bottom, I really realized what had been bothering me about his play. I reread what I had said, saw how often I had been second-guessing him in this game, and posted the "Screw it" followed by the vote. It had been nagging at me for a while.
Sure. Just a casual observation. I wanted to bug Derp about it, but, as we all know, nuttinessNakaness happened.
@Yanni:Kind of like you aren't flailing here?:rolleyes:
Pushing... your... wha?
Show me where I flailed in smilies or here,
Hint
You can't cause it's a lie
I think you're scum, but you're lying and really pushing my "lynch all liars" button.
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@Cyouni:
The capitalized parts of that post were cut-and-pasted for emphasis through repitition. Then, as I got to the bottom, I really realized what had been bothering me about his play. I reread what I had said, saw how often I had been second-guessing him in this game, and posted the "Screw it" followed by the vote. It had been nagging at me for a while.
I don't really know what to say, this entire game so far I've been defending one comment that I slipped up with and no matter what I say everyone thinks I'm obvious scum. Oh well.
Whatever man, vote for me if you want and try to start a wagon. Good luck.
Stop beating up that strawman.
And the reason I'm voting you is because you're pretending that waiting to be asked questions is pro-town.
It seems that for whatever reason, Cyouni, I have to play under your say-so for today, if I'm going to have credibility.
One and two: (One)
That does not make any sense to me. Are we reading the same thing? Do we speak the same breed of English? What is your problem with this?
Hmm. Alright. I also phrased the question slightly incorrectly.
Your question, "You actually believe tordeck is scum?" implies disbelief and criticism of the wagon. Nothing like what you said later, ie. "Why am I the only one who noticed the elementary scumtells from tordeck in that post?" An example of something that would have made sense in that context would have been "You actually believe tordeck isn't scum?"
(Two)
This is the first I've heard of that question. And it makes no sense. How is that a friggin question thing that would be said to question? You know, by a person, who wants an answer, from a person?
Let me put it this way: If one is lynched and the other turns up dead both today, that was very stupid of whatever loose cannon was responsible. Unless they really were both scum, of course.
SHOOTING MUFFIN MAN WOULD BE KINDA DUMB, TOO. Not in this climate of dislikin' those neutral kills. Plus Muffin Man seems to have taken the hint any way.
Bleh. Bad phrasing makes my question bad. Let's try that again.
Do you still hold a wish to lynch Chibi and/or DigicoolDad? You voted DCD, then voted Chibi, then unvoted, later voting tordeck.
Do you still stand behind your previous two votes, and if not, why not?
" Nope. Once again, you'd still have no reason to "forget" to vote tordeck. "
So do I lie now to try and make this believable? Or just keep asserting that you're entirely wrong?
You can just assert that I'm entirely wrong. I probably won't believe you, but whatever.
Hmm, I'll tell you what Cyouni. Let's suppose pinkfloyd really is one of the scum. You name for me a name, other than pinkfloyd, who made the Chibi-Yanni heap 'mount up' in scum's interest and explain how that kind of thing leaves clues to someone else's guilt, in detail. Then I'll explain why I thought I would change my vote after catching up today with a PBPA, and why instead I didn't.
Alternately, explain for me, pedagogically, how the actions purely of town agents could **** up so hard creating this vicious parity scenario. You know, in a theoretical sense.
You also say you want to question me. Are you hoping others will question me? Maybe everyone's caught on to the fact I can't explain jack ****, for better or worse.
Apart from that, are you saying I should keep shouting at Chibi and Yanni? I'm still figuring out what makes a good shout to make someone buckle.
Question: Why do you feel the need to respond to something directed at pinkfloyd?
And by the way, it's easy for two town to screw something up. Both think they have something that PROVES the other is scum, and are unwilling to admit they could possibly be wrong. In their so-called "bloodthirstiness", people think they've found scum, and we end up with a scenario much like this one. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there were opportunistic scum piled up on both sides of this doublewagon-argument.
If my vote were on Chibi right now, I'd unvote to get more time for this, but, hey, it's not.
Is there a courtesy we do where we at least make all of us post one time saying "I have seen the postcount" before that 11th guy votes for lynch? I'm very bothered by the idea that the game could move a phase without anyone passing me priority, as it were.
Not so much a concern as this is the weekend coming up, but I do sleep, this being out of fashion for you guys, as I began.
Side-note: it's generally the rule for a person to claim when they reach L-2.
Wait, thats a thing? I thought scum could only talk at night?
This makes things more difficult.
Ok, I gave this a once over, and yea theres a LOT of stuff to wade through.
Here's the thoughts I was able to scrounge together at 2:30am
Top Scums
Yanni- He likes to make wagons, but seems to take a while for him to justify them. Seems to be trying to cause confusion/ pull the vote in a ton of directions. I would say he may be stalling. I assume when the deadline runs out, it moves to day 2 and scum gets to use all of their night actions they may have? No lynch+Scum nightkills/roleblock/whatever is bad for town.
Pinkfloyd-Asked for the massclaim earlygame, and IIRC hasn't actually answered why. Has contributed somewhat, but seems to REALLY wanna stay out of the limelight. Avoiding conflict is scummy.
Chibi- He reads scum to me. All the OMGUS's and flailing. Just because he's newish doesn't mean he can't be scum too (This is just my thinking. Not saying anyone actually feels that way.)
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
EBWODP: Derp! Just realized that PF DID give a reason. However, "To speed the game up" is, in my opinion, not a good reason to ask for a mass claim, especially so early in day 1.Felt like fishing a bit to me. While not all fishing is bad, fishing without a good reason imo is scummy.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
EBWODP: Derp! Just realized that PF DID give a reason. However, "To speed the game up" is, in my opinion, not a good reason to ask for a mass claim, especially so early in day 1.Felt like fishing a bit to me. While not all fishing is bad, fishing without a good reason imo is scummy.
Thanks?
I am "Staying out of the limelight" till day 2 (if I survive that long) to give the town something to use. I promise you I am not scum. Actually, if I flip scum I will personally send everyone in this game $100 through paypal, and you can quote me on that.
I am "Staying out of the limelight" till day 2 (if I survive that long) to give the town something to use. I promise you I am not scum. Actually, if I flip scum I will personally send everyone in this game $100 through paypal, and you can quote me on that.
Wait, thats a thing? I thought scum could only talk at night?
This makes things more difficult.
Ok, I gave this a once over, and yea theres a LOT of stuff to wade through.
Here's the thoughts I was able to scrounge together at 2:30am
Top Scums
Yanni- He likes to make wagons, but seems to take a while for him to justify them. Seems to be trying to cause confusion/ pull the vote in a ton of directions. I would say he may be stalling. I assume when the deadline runs out, it moves to day 2 and scum gets to use all of their night actions they may have? No lynch+Scum nightkills/roleblock/whatever is bad for town.
Pinkfloyd-Asked for the massclaim earlygame, and IIRC hasn't actually answered why. Has contributed somewhat, but seems to REALLY wanna stay out of the limelight. Avoiding conflict is scummy.
Chibi- He reads scum to me. All the OMGUS's and flailing. Just because he's newish doesn't mean he can't be scum too (This is just my thinking. Not saying anyone actually feels that way.)
And so: Vote Yanni
Wiat waht?
Why am I trying to pull a vote in different directions? I've stated I'm only okay with Lynching either Chibi or PF today. Right after Chibi responded badly to my pressure I started and justified that wagon. So... lie? Yeah.
You'd have to ask AI, but I thought hitting deadline means that the person with the most votes get s lynched.
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We've got until the end of August.
If you're trying to lynch me whilst I'm gone you still need me to claim and defend myself.
You don't need to lynch during the week, esp with a player gone.
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I am "Staying out of the limelight" till day 2 (if I survive that long) to give the town something to use. I promise you I am not scum. Actually, if I flip scum I will personally send everyone in this game $100 through paypal, and you can quote me on that.
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That is me Raging. If you are town you are doing a very bad job.
You want to survive till day 2, but you claim you have a good role. Please tell me do you expect scum to be daft blind and stupid?
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We've got until the end of August.
If you're trying to lynch me whilst I'm gone you still need me to claim and defend myself.
You don't need to lynch during the week, esp with a player gone.
Didn't realize, that is a long time. And yeah, that's cool
[QUOTE]You want to survive till day 2, but you claim you have a good role. Please tell me do you expect scum to be daft blind and stupid?[/QUOTE
I figure that I'm getting lynched day 2 anyways, and the mafia won't nightkill one of the most hated players in here.
I'll do my thing, plead my case, get mislynched and then everyone might listen
[QUOTE]You want to survive till day 2, but you claim you have a good role. Please tell me do you expect scum to be daft blind and stupid?[/QUOTE
I figure that I'm getting lynched day 2 anyways, and the mafia won't nightkill one of the most hated players in here.
I'll do my thing, plead my case, get mislynched and then everyone might listen
^Fearmongering^
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The only reason I said it was to start some actual discussion in here, 20 players just doing RVS bogs it down and just makes it a long process. How does that make me scum?
Not really.
Reya and TiK asked for my reason, so I explained that it was for pressure. The intent was for no one to tell me why, and see what Chibi would do.
Either way, this question was not directed at you.
If you wanted nobody to tell you, then WHY THE **** DID YOU ASK.
And what exactly am I doing oh great one?
I can answer that, scum hunting. I pressure voted Chibi for a reaction, and guess what I got? A bad reaction. I had no original reason to place my vote on Chibi, yes, however, I found one after he reacted to the vote.
I like how you're validating Ibug... interaction noted.
You answered the question while attempting to convey that we need to lynch Chibi.
Yet Chibi had not given any answer to your vote at the moment that you answered, so you had no reason to want to lynch Chibi.
Furthermore, if it was an attempt to freak Chibi out, then all sense of danger was removed the moment you said it was a pressure vote.
Either I'm missing something here, or these statements don't align.
This is my reaction to the above Yanni quote.
At the moment: Yanni is flailing and responding to every post made ever to look extremely active and protown to try and prevent the wagon.
Chibi ****ed up.
I don't really like either of them, but I highly doubt both are scum. Gotta finish my read later, this is taking me forever.
No, I want to lynch you because you are scum. I wanted to observe that the "person in your seat" did something else weird, too. Why so defensive about it?
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because you're bringing up stuff I can't control and trying to use it as evidence of something I did?
You're posts are so out of character for you.
Now answer my question
1. If my posts are logical, does that make me scum?
2. If my posts are illogical, does that make me town?
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Those are not questions that a person can answer in the context of Mafia. What makes you scum is the intent I believe you have. I believe some of your posts are unclear, but thats completely null for you. You have a mastery of butchering the English language.
Logical or illogical, nether is directly related to scummy or townie. It is all situational.
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Your other posts tends to disagree with you.
Like a lot.
So now you're saying
Yanni's post = Unclear = Null tell cause he's usually high = town or scum.
BUT
Then you say that I was playing "townie" (IE Logical scum hunting) and I'm doing the same thing in this game, and that makes me scum?
You're inconsistant.
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should say
BUT
Before you say.......
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Same flailing, illogical arguments as in Smilies.
I'm done. Vote stands.
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Other stuff in my longer post, in case you missed it.
So what distinguishes this from, say, 37, where you said he "caused town chaos"? And how come your "realization that Yanni is scum" happens twice, with the break in between being the part where you say he's "wasting a chance to lynch a scum"?
Derp was in and out of the game too quickly. I'd rather base my reads on Yanni's actions.
@Yanni:
Let me rephrase that: why would there be a need to ask for reasons in the first place?
I didn't Flail in smilies. My arguments also weren't illogical, you just can't answer my questions so you're saying "nope you're wrong"
Dude I hope someone PM's you so you get modkilled... (not really I don't hope anyone gets modkilled, that'd suck)
How are my posts spam?
Sub a few, they all have content. You're lying again and you're really pushing my policy lynch button.
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I answered that.
I told you I was on some stuff, and I wasn't thinking straight when I asked for reasons.
I have those moments.
At the time I probably thought everyone thought I was awesome and would know what Iwas thinking (which regular Yanni thinks "nah" to)
I still just assumed that someone would reach the logical conclusion that it was a pressure vote without me coming out and saying it.
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kpaca isn't doing anything.
I understand that we aren't, but that doesn't mean I should just jump onto a wagon I am not yet sure about. I will reread later then post my stance.
No, but it seems to be waving around a lot.
This struck me as strange too: we shouldn't have to ask him to contribute his thoughts.
I don't like this. I like a PF lynch, but it seems as though Yanni is trying to show how "pro-town" he is by being open to a PF lynch, but that he still wants to lynch Chibi.
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@Everyone referencing ongoing games who was already specifically told to cut that **** out: Do it again and you won't be playing this game any more.
Enough is enough.
Absolutely no snarkiness or challenge intended, but refering to Basics 37-39 as they are closed and over is ok, right? Triple checking.
@Cyouni:
The capitalized parts of that post were cut-and-pasted for emphasis through repitition. Then, as I got to the bottom, I really realized what had been bothering me about his play. I reread what I had said, saw how often I had been second-guessing him in this game, and posted the "Screw it" followed by the vote. It had been nagging at me for a while.
Sure. Just a casual observation. I wanted to bug Derp about it, but, as we all know,
nuttinessNakaness happened.@Yanni: Kind of like you aren't flailing here?:rolleyes:
Pushing... your... wha?
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The operative word has been bolded.
Also, the Mafia Council has been notified and is keeping an eye on this game.
I don't really know what to say, this entire game so far I've been defending one comment that I slipped up with and no matter what I say everyone thinks I'm obvious scum. Oh well.
Whatever man, vote for me if you want and try to start a wagon. Good luck.
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This is why I hate not having my machine on.
What time zone are you people in? I can't be playing this thing at 4am.
It seems that for whatever reason, Cyouni, I have to play under your say-so for today, if I'm going to have credibility.
One and two: (One)
That does not make any sense to me. Are we reading the same thing? Do we speak the same breed of English? What is your problem with this?
(Two)
This is the first I've heard of that question. And it makes no sense. How is that a friggin
questionthing that would be said to question? You know, by a person, who wants an answer, from a person?Let me put it this way: If one is lynched and the other turns up dead both today, that was very stupid of whatever loose cannon was responsible. Unless they really were both scum, of course.
SHOOTING MUFFIN MAN WOULD BE KINDA DUMB, TOO. Not in this climate of dislikin' those neutral kills. Plus Muffin Man seems to have taken the hint any way.
" Nope. Once again, you'd still have no reason to "forget" to vote tordeck. "
So do I lie now to try and make this believable? Or just keep asserting that you're entirely wrong?
Hmm, I'll tell you what Cyouni. Let's suppose pinkfloyd really is one of the scum. You name for me a name, other than pinkfloyd, who made the Chibi-Yanni heap 'mount up' in scum's interest and explain how that kind of thing leaves clues to someone else's guilt, in detail. Then I'll explain why I thought I would change my vote after catching up today with a PBPA, and why instead I didn't.
Alternately, explain for me, pedagogically, how the actions purely of town agents could **** up so hard creating this vicious parity scenario. You know, in a theoretical sense.
You also say you want to question me. Are you hoping others will question me? Maybe everyone's caught on to the fact I can't explain jack ****, for better or worse.
Apart from that, are you saying I should keep shouting at Chibi and Yanni? I'm still figuring out what makes a good shout to make someone buckle.
If my vote were on Chibi right now, I'd unvote to get more time for this, but, hey, it's not.
Is there a courtesy we do where we at least make all of us post one time saying "I have seen the postcount" before that 11th guy votes for lynch? I'm very bothered by the idea that the game could move a phase without anyone passing me priority, as it were.
Not so much a concern as this is the weekend coming up, but I do sleep, this being out of fashion for you guys, as I began.
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I believe we are doomed.
Show me where I flailed in smilies or here,
Hint
You can't cause it's a lie
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But it would be analysis of particular things.
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Stop ignoring my questions.
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Hmm. Guess that's fine for now.
@pinkfloyd:
Stop beating up that strawman.
And the reason I'm voting you is because you're pretending that waiting to be asked questions is pro-town.
@Horseshoe_Hermit:
Eastern Canada. But I have really odd day/night cycles.
Hmm. Alright. I also phrased the question slightly incorrectly.
Your question, "You actually believe tordeck is scum?" implies disbelief and criticism of the wagon. Nothing like what you said later, ie. "Why am I the only one who noticed the elementary scumtells from tordeck in that post?" An example of something that would have made sense in that context would have been "You actually believe tordeck isn't scum?"
Bleh. Bad phrasing makes my question bad. Let's try that again.
Do you still hold a wish to lynch Chibi and/or DigicoolDad? You voted DCD, then voted Chibi, then unvoted, later voting tordeck.
Do you still stand behind your previous two votes, and if not, why not?
You can just assert that I'm entirely wrong. I probably won't believe you, but whatever.
Question: Why do you feel the need to respond to something directed at pinkfloyd?
And by the way, it's easy for two town to screw something up. Both think they have something that PROVES the other is scum, and are unwilling to admit they could possibly be wrong. In their so-called "bloodthirstiness", people think they've found scum, and we end up with a scenario much like this one. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there were opportunistic scum piled up on both sides of this doublewagon-argument.
Side-note: it's generally the rule for a person to claim when they reach L-2.
Doomed to run around like chickens with our heads cut off until it is time to turn us into soup.
I don't actually understand the metaphor but okay
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Try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Or if you're more auditory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5vzCmURh7o
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@Tordeck
My vote is on Yanni because I honestly believe he's scummy, as I do most games i've played with him =/
You flailed when you were the center of attention, until you claimed doc and attention was directed elsewhere.
So you call it a policy lynch, instead of calling him scum for lying?
Makes it look like you're trying hard to not look bad here...
Horshoe: Why are you voting a small wagon instead of joining a big one?
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Fix'd.
Also, Thanks.
Wait, thats a thing? I thought scum could only talk at night?
This makes things more difficult.
Ok, I gave this a once over, and yea theres a LOT of stuff to wade through.
Here's the thoughts I was able to scrounge together at 2:30am
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Yanni- He likes to make wagons, but seems to take a while for him to justify them. Seems to be trying to cause confusion/ pull the vote in a ton of directions. I would say he may be stalling. I assume when the deadline runs out, it moves to day 2 and scum gets to use all of their night actions they may have? No lynch+Scum nightkills/roleblock/whatever is bad for town.
Pinkfloyd-Asked for the massclaim earlygame, and IIRC hasn't actually answered why. Has contributed somewhat, but seems to REALLY wanna stay out of the limelight. Avoiding conflict is scummy.
Chibi- He reads scum to me. All the OMGUS's and flailing. Just because he's newish doesn't mean he can't be scum too (This is just my thinking. Not saying anyone actually feels that way.)
And so: Vote Yanni
Thanks?
I am "Staying out of the limelight" till day 2 (if I survive that long) to give the town something to use. I promise you I am not scum. Actually, if I flip scum I will personally send everyone in this game $100 through paypal, and you can quote me on that.
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Excuse to lurk? Yea I think so.
Quotes or it didn't happen. Evidence. Back up your claims.
Wiat waht?
Why am I trying to pull a vote in different directions? I've stated I'm only okay with Lynching either Chibi or PF today. Right after Chibi responded badly to my pressure I started and justified that wagon. So... lie? Yeah.
You'd have to ask AI, but I thought hitting deadline means that the person with the most votes get s lynched.
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Each mod id different. Some do no lynch also.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I bet you would
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We've got until the end of August.
If you're trying to lynch me whilst I'm gone you still need me to claim and defend myself.
You don't need to lynch during the week, esp with a player gone.
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ASFNgbrseiuvbewaRAAAAEWGEGER
That is me Raging. If you are town you are doing a very bad job.
You want to survive till day 2, but you claim you have a good role. Please tell me do you expect scum to be daft blind and stupid?
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Didn't realize, that is a long time. And yeah, that's cool
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I figure that I'm getting lynched day 2 anyways, and the mafia won't nightkill one of the most hated players in here.
I'll do my thing, plead my case, get mislynched and then everyone might listen
LOL
^Fearmongering^
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No, its not you see because I want to be lynched
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"I'm a mislynch waiting to happen"
That's fear mongering.
I'd say Fool, but this isn't epicmafia and that role is banned here (I think)
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LOL
No it's not.
Creating WIFOM is a scum tell.
Calling someone out on creating Wifom =/= scum tell
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They hate us cause they ain't us.
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Because he voted you.
So quick to drop it?
Little fast there bro.
Flailing.
If you wanted nobody to tell you, then WHY THE **** DID YOU ASK.
No real reason. k.
This is my reaction to the above Yanni quote.
At the moment: Yanni is flailing and responding to every post made ever to look extremely active and protown to try and prevent the wagon.
Chibi ****ed up.
I don't really like either of them, but I highly doubt both are scum. Gotta finish my read later, this is taking me forever.
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