Sweet ad hom's, bruh. As far as I'm concerned you're consistently useless as a townie in every game I've been in with you, so I'll take your opinion of my playstyle with a grain of salt.
I've played one game with you yeah? That basic game? Pshah to you sir.
Scum pushed for it is what I mean. Just because most people decided to go along doesn't mean that we necessarily supported it. I claimed because I pretty much had to, not because I supported a mass claim, which is exactly what the scum wanted.
Actually no. A lot of people agreed to a mass claim.
The people who pushed for it are the town pillars. Go fearmonger in another place scum.
This argument is neither here nor there and is a waste of time.
Some thoughts:
Zajnet looks better to me.
So does Ice Man.
I see everyone is content to just let AI say "herf derf i'm the cop". I suppose I will have to lynch him tomorrow.
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This argument is neither here nor there and is a waste of time.
Some thoughts:
Zajnet looks better to me.
So does Ice Man.
I see everyone is content to just let AI say "herf derf i'm the cop". I suppose I will have to lynch him tomorrow.
FYI, I'm the one with the armor, and I am also not content to let AI just ride by as cop.
@vezok: I will eat my playset of Force of Wills if all of AI, Kraj (now Kpaca), and Cyan are town.
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One of these things is definitely not like the other.
Protip: Me and Cyan are like the other.
I think that you're probably right about AI. I really didn't like Kraj before the replace, and especially because of the replace, but I've liked you so far. However, you're a good enough player that you could still be scum, as could Cyan.
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Can we finish lynching one claimed investigative role before we try to work out the next one? It is definitely possible that AI is scum, but I think that this becomes less likely if AL flips scum.
And it's not a likely enough chance that it's worth lynching him over today, regardless.
It is seriously time to move on, and for someone to vote RP so that we can keep going.
@Kpaca: I'm fine with scrutinizing AI tomorrow. I have some thoughts on him/his claim/etc. But that's for tomorrow.
Also, any real doubt that I had about RP pretty much died when he just stopped posting. Townies don't just disappear in spots like this. Especially not townies with a personality like RP. This has scum written alllllllllll over it.
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As for the surveying - I believe that everyone seems to be following Cyan's direction already. Vezok, kpaka and zajnet all ignored that part of my post. The only one who agreed with me is dropkickdude. We can always decide to change our survey style tomorrow.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Couldn't post last night because of the forum closing. Sorry.
I'm going to orgainze this by the major sections
The Mass Claim
Personally I don't think that we should of done this. We allowed the scum to see all of the power roles in the game. I understand that we need to know who needs RP, but did we have to reveal our main abilities in order to do that? If we just revealed what we got with RP, it would have protected our cop and doc more. Now I feel they're open.
RP is hotheaded and is unwilling to listen to reason. When confronted by Cyan, who seems like the most pro-town player of the game, she immediately OMGUSs him. This is anti-town behaivour and is thus scum. I probably am barning on this one but I feel it's true.
Shielding from the responsibility of lynching town RP. (Read: RP is a douche, so if I suck up to Cyan while painting RP badly I can hammer care free)
Surveying
I have something more to add due to surveying. Everyone is considering who should definitely get and need relics and are considering survey types. The thing is they are ignoring timestamps. Why can't all people who are currently listed as survey 0 on AI's list survey 3 22+h after the hammer drops on RP. This should be plenty of time to get in surveys for the selected people on AI's list and would allow us to get all relics possible from this area.
So are there any objections to my idea? I won't hammer until I get some feedback.
Cyan covered this: if you think someone is scum why have them survey?
Alright cyan since you are sure we're good here you go.
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24 hours was all you could wait, really? So you replace in and hammer in what 48 hours? Forums were down supposedly so you didnt have that time to post. So wow that was amazingly fast.
I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
i want more RB opinions guys, as im not liking cyan very much (if RP flips town you and pikagens go straight to me leaning scum pile).
i really hated that quickhammer from the AW (scummy) replacement, as you are not a total noob i find it very bad that you hammered because "cyan said so".
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
24 hours was all you could wait, really? So you replace in and hammer in what 48 hours? Forums were down supposedly so you didnt have that time to post. So wow that was amazingly fast.
Eh, it was time for the lynch, he happened to be the one who got to cast the vote. I don't see a problem with it.
I won't be surveying tonight, so I guess I could join the prayer circle because I won't be doing anything else, if everyone is okay with that.
That's a lynch. I'll post the scene within the hour.
This seems like a good time to go over this game's night rules:
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#6: Lynching will require a simple majority of votes. Once the lynch threshold has been reached, nothing can prevent that lynch and the game is considered to be in "twilight." Posting during twilight is allowed. Twilight lasts from the time the lynch threshold is reached until the next time that I post in the thread. In this game, twilight is followed by a period of "dusk." Posting during dusk is NOT allowed. Dusk will usually last 24 hours, but whatever its length, I will clearly state when it will end. After dusk ends, night begins. Do not send in your night ability choices during dusk. Night abilities are for the night phase. This system of twilight, dusk and night is intended to give all players a fair chance to be online when night officially begins for purposes of using Survey abilities.
@zindabad: Can someone submit a delayed Survey? Like, for instance, would sending you a pm saying "I would like to Survey 3 with a timestamp of XX:XX" actually adjust their spot in the order? Provided the requested timestamp was some point in the future and the past of course.
Then everyone would pre-submit their Surveys for 1 minute after Night starts and I'd end up comparing timestamps on pre-submissions, which is the same as the current system.
With the horror of Axtroz's sudden demise still fresh in their minds, the members of the expedition argued back and forth in an attempt to root out the minions of the evil that pervades Grim Batol. Nervousness and fear are written across the countenances of every dwarf; by stark contrast, the faces of the reds among you remain as placid and unfeeling as if they were carved of stone.
In an attempt to expose any potential infiltrators, the explorers lined up and presented their credentials to the group. But the exercise failed to uncover any obvious impostors, and in the end it came down to simple finger-pointing and paranoia, as it always does.
Accusations ring out in the Antechambers, echoing dully throughout the dusty and lifeless halls. Eventually, all eyes focus on RisingPhoenix, now apparent as Fanny Thundermar.
"Ah'm tellin' ye, Ah'm no' a baddie!" Her shrill voice, heavy with the accents of the Twilight Highlands, pierces the silence.
"Yer a liar," a Bronzebeard mutters, and despite their clan ties to the accused, even the Wildhammers assent, their faces grim.
"A'right, then," she says. "Ye're no' takin' this Thundermar doon wi'out a fight." With that, she emits a bloodcurdling battle yell and charges headlong into the crowd.
But despite her desperate rage, she is only able to deal out a few punches and kicks before she is overwhelmed by the group and eventually stabbed. She slumps to her knees, eyes clouding, and utters only "Keegan" before she expires. The group waits, pulses racing, for something to happen. But the only change is in the volume of the blood pooling underneath her corpse. The expedition is faced with the knowledge that they have killed RisingPhoenix, Fanny Thundermar, Town Rogue (Wildhammer).
There is only stunned silence in the Antechambers. Dwarves and dragons alike stumble around, going through the motions of preparing for night, their eyes either glassy and lifeless or shrunken and fearful. Part of their despair is knowing that they have condemned an innocent to die, but part of it - the greater part - is knowing that they must now face a night in these abandoned halls, so forgotten but yet so rife with evil. Darkness falls, and as it does, each member of the expedition is left to wonder what nightmares they will suffer alone in Grim Batol.
The group has chosen to remain in the Antechambers. It is now Dusk. Dusk will end at precisely 12:30 pm EST tomorrow, Sunday, April 24th, and Night will begin. Night will last until 12:30 pm EST on Tuesday, April 26th.
Please do not send Night choices in during Dusk as they will not be counted.
Please do not post during Dusk or Night.
Please stop sending me Survey requests before Night has begun. They won't count.
The whole point of the Dusk/Night system is to firmly establish a time when Night will begin so that everyone can have an equal opportunity to Survey. It normally wouldn't be a big deal, but since Surveying has a timestamp-related component, the time at which you submit is important, and pre-submitting is not allowed for the reasons I told DKD two posts up.
So please wait until the Night period has begun (12:30 pm EST tomorrow) before sending me Survey actions. If you sent a PM already that included a Survey and some other action, the other actions are confirmed, but the Survey will need to be re-submitted when Night begins.
The Antechambers have windows, so it is not the guttering light of torches that greeted the explorers as they woke from fitful and tormented dreams, but the dreary and pale light of dawn. A quick body count reveals that all are present and accounted for. But although their bodies are present, there's no guarantee about their minds - the explorers are haggard and haunted after only one night in Grim Batol.
There's no doubt left in anyone's mind that this is a place of great, incomprehensible evil, and that it was a terrible error to come here. But there is no way back. The only hope available is the hope that a servant of evil will be eradicated today, unlike what befell the unfortunate Fanny Thundermar yesterday.
Paranoia is rampant, fear is rife, and a lingering stench of Corruption hangs about the dusty air. Dawn has come. What hope has it brought?
Day 2 has begun.
The deadline is set for Sunday, July 26th at 8:00pm EST.
The group is presently in the Antechambers Zone.
I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
Priest ability is kosher, I attended a prayer meeting last night, got a PM back to that effect.
I dont support the wagon on AI, I believe he is town and I find it suspect that you are hunting another investigation roles so quick. I wish I had been turned from my vote on inifinis so back there it goes.
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@jd: It should be fairly plain from reading the thread yesterday that I was having a hard time believing AI's claim already. Knowing that AL was town, AI just becomes that much more suspect to me.
I'll Unvote pending Drey's revealing of whom he targeted, though, because if he didn't jail me, then Fenris probably RBed me(and of course, Fenris didn't go in the prayer circle), and that feels like more of a solid lead.
Zajnet was quick to vote AI today, though. Not sure what to make of that.
I guess we just need to hear from DRey and find out whom he Jailed before working the rest of this out.
Not sure what to make of AI claiming to have been RBed. If he were scum, unless he is just absurdly arrogant, I'd expect him to just fake a scum investigation on anyone and try to at least create some WIFOM.
Of course, that statement creates WIFOM in and of itself, so, mission accomplished anyway?
@AI: Describe the flavor of what happened to you last night? And answer TIM's question, apparently.
For everyone that isn't completely following along:
AI lied about his result failing, banking on the idea that TIM didn't target him to make him unblockable. TIM's reaction made it obvious that he did in fact target AI, and now AI is trying to backpedal.
Not going to happen. If I had any doubts that you're lying scum, they are gone now. Vote AI
The people who pushed for it are the town pillars. Go fearmonger in another place scum.
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I've played one game with you yeah? That basic game? Pshah to you sir.
For future references this was hella foolish and those points should go to me or whoever it is with the armor, respectively.
This argument is neither here nor there and is a waste of time.
Some thoughts:
Zajnet looks better to me.
So does Ice Man.
I see everyone is content to just let AI say "herf derf i'm the cop". I suppose I will have to lynch him tomorrow.
FYI, I'm the one with the armor, and I am also not content to let AI just ride by as cop.
@vezok: I will eat my playset of Force of Wills if all of AI, Kraj (now Kpaca), and Cyan are town.
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One of these things is definitely not like the other.
Protip: Me and Cyan are like the other.
I think that you're probably right about AI. I really didn't like Kraj before the replace, and especially because of the replace, but I've liked you so far. However, you're a good enough player that you could still be scum, as could Cyan.
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And it's not a likely enough chance that it's worth lynching him over today, regardless.
It is seriously time to move on, and for someone to vote RP so that we can keep going.
All this is subject to change at the drop of a hat ofc. But I doubt any hats get dropped.
Get ready to eat your playset.
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Also, any real doubt that I had about RP pretty much died when he just stopped posting. Townies don't just disappear in spots like this. Especially not townies with a personality like RP. This has scum written alllllllllll over it.
Lynchvoteplzkkthxbye.
VOTE: RisingPhoenix
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I hope his alignment gets revealed before 'Dusk' or w/e, the suspense has been killing me for days.
As for the surveying - I believe that everyone seems to be following Cyan's direction already. Vezok, kpaka and zajnet all ignored that part of my post. The only one who agreed with me is dropkickdude. We can always decide to change our survey style tomorrow.
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Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
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And If I don't get RB'ed who exactly would we like me to target because as i've stated before targets aren't exactly obvious.
Scum posing as town, taunting town.
Shielding from the responsibility of lynching town RP. (Read: RP is a douche, so if I suck up to Cyan while painting RP badly I can hammer care free)
Cyan covered this: if you think someone is scum why have them survey?
Also he's waiting for feedback but...
24 hours was all you could wait, really? So you replace in and hammer in what 48 hours? Forums were down supposedly so you didnt have that time to post. So wow that was amazingly fast.
12-11? I'm losing track
i really hated that quickhammer from the AW (scummy) replacement, as you are not a total noob i find it very bad that you hammered because "cyan said so".
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Eh, it was time for the lynch, he happened to be the one who got to cast the vote. I don't see a problem with it.
I won't be surveying tonight, so I guess I could join the prayer circle because I won't be doing anything else, if everyone is okay with that.
This seems like a good time to go over this game's night rules:
Then everyone would pre-submit their Surveys for 1 minute after Night starts and I'd end up comparing timestamps on pre-submissions, which is the same as the current system.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
In an attempt to expose any potential infiltrators, the explorers lined up and presented their credentials to the group. But the exercise failed to uncover any obvious impostors, and in the end it came down to simple finger-pointing and paranoia, as it always does.
Accusations ring out in the Antechambers, echoing dully throughout the dusty and lifeless halls. Eventually, all eyes focus on RisingPhoenix, now apparent as Fanny Thundermar.
"Ah'm tellin' ye, Ah'm no' a baddie!" Her shrill voice, heavy with the accents of the Twilight Highlands, pierces the silence.
"Yer a liar," a Bronzebeard mutters, and despite their clan ties to the accused, even the Wildhammers assent, their faces grim.
"A'right, then," she says. "Ye're no' takin' this Thundermar doon wi'out a fight." With that, she emits a bloodcurdling battle yell and charges headlong into the crowd.
But despite her desperate rage, she is only able to deal out a few punches and kicks before she is overwhelmed by the group and eventually stabbed. She slumps to her knees, eyes clouding, and utters only "Keegan" before she expires. The group waits, pulses racing, for something to happen. But the only change is in the volume of the blood pooling underneath her corpse. The expedition is faced with the knowledge that they have killed RisingPhoenix, Fanny Thundermar, Town Rogue (Wildhammer).
There is only stunned silence in the Antechambers. Dwarves and dragons alike stumble around, going through the motions of preparing for night, their eyes either glassy and lifeless or shrunken and fearful. Part of their despair is knowing that they have condemned an innocent to die, but part of it - the greater part - is knowing that they must now face a night in these abandoned halls, so forgotten but yet so rife with evil. Darkness falls, and as it does, each member of the expedition is left to wonder what nightmares they will suffer alone in Grim Batol.
The group has chosen to remain in the Antechambers.
It is now Dusk. Dusk will end at precisely 12:30 pm EST tomorrow, Sunday, April 24th, and Night will begin. Night will last until 12:30 pm EST on Tuesday, April 26th.
Please do not send Night choices in during Dusk as they will not be counted.
Please do not post during Dusk or Night.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
The whole point of the Dusk/Night system is to firmly establish a time when Night will begin so that everyone can have an equal opportunity to Survey. It normally wouldn't be a big deal, but since Surveying has a timestamp-related component, the time at which you submit is important, and pre-submitting is not allowed for the reasons I told DKD two posts up.
So please wait until the Night period has begun (12:30 pm EST tomorrow) before sending me Survey actions. If you sent a PM already that included a Survey and some other action, the other actions are confirmed, but the Survey will need to be re-submitted when Night begins.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
There's no doubt left in anyone's mind that this is a place of great, incomprehensible evil, and that it was a terrible error to come here. But there is no way back. The only hope available is the hope that a servant of evil will be eradicated today, unlike what befell the unfortunate Fanny Thundermar yesterday.
Paranoia is rampant, fear is rife, and a lingering stench of Corruption hangs about the dusty air. Dawn has come. What hope has it brought?
Day 2 has begun.
The deadline is set for Sunday, July 26th at 8:00pm EST.
The group is presently in the Antechambers Zone.
I am looking for a replacement for Gigas1.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Red flag. Yes it's time for a lynch. No more discussion needed. Really?
Not surprised no one is dead, since we probably dont have enough corruption to fuel the scum.
12-11? I'm losing track
Who did you target last night?
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Depending if anyone failed to survey, and possibly a good idea regardless, we should consider moving to the next area.
Vote: tordeck
Updated: 05/24/11
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I also have 'at least 25 Corruption' now.
I'm kind of interested in hearing AI's 'investigation' results, but then when he dies today and flips scum it'll just become WIFOM anyway. Vote AI
I completely forgot to come back after dusk was over and submit my survey
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I dont support the wagon on AI, I believe he is town and I find it suspect that you are hunting another investigation roles so quick. I wish I had been turned from my vote on inifinis so back there it goes.
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I'll Unvote pending Drey's revealing of whom he targeted, though, because if he didn't jail me, then Fenris probably RBed me(and of course, Fenris didn't go in the prayer circle), and that feels like more of a solid lead.
Zajnet was quick to vote AI today, though. Not sure what to make of that.
@LP: What were your result(s) from last night?
I made it abundantly clear yesterday that I think AI is scum. Why wait to vote for him today?
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Updated: 05/24/11
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Vote Fenris
Not sure what to make of AI claiming to have been RBed. If he were scum, unless he is just absurdly arrogant, I'd expect him to just fake a scum investigation on anyone and try to at least create some WIFOM.
Of course, that statement creates WIFOM in and of itself, so, mission accomplished anyway?
@AI: Describe the flavor of what happened to you last night? And answer TIM's question, apparently.
So no.
Updated: 05/24/11
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I will explain what that is after DRey tells us what he did.
No, we won't.
AI lied about his result failing, banking on the idea that TIM didn't target him to make him unblockable. TIM's reaction made it obvious that he did in fact target AI, and now AI is trying to backpedal.
Not going to happen. If I had any doubts that you're lying scum, they are gone now. Vote AI
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Lol, nice try.
@TheIceMan: What did you do last Night?
@DRey: Same question.
I will probably vote one of you depending on what your answers are.
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