I can buy that he's accusing Azrael of tunnel-vision, although I prefer Az's quip, that was much funnier.
Yeah, I'll never get a comedy award, that's for sure.
Of course he didn't say anything about Az's meta initially; that's not the point - he was insinuating that what Az was doing (confusing people) was scummy. It was after the other people chimed in that suddenly he felt that way about it, too.
That doesn't necessarily mean he's scum! It could also be that he possess the popular noob mistake gene of thinking people he can't understand are scummy. I've suffered that.
I think the fact he's still arguing with Azrael means he has something to hide, yes. If he was the meek little townie he was playing to be, he wouldn't be taking shots back at him.
Pretty sure we all have something to hide.
There sure is - it's called he's making stuff up, and he's already admitted to it. Townies do not make up defenses for why they did something - they tell the truth.
No, DYH, that's not what I was going for.
I was referring explicitly to the "can't remember his reasoning" portion, and the explanation I was thinking of is when ☺☺☺☺ happens later in the game, you can't forget it's there when you re-read, and it can hinder you remembering your original thoughts. Refute this, and I'll call you a liar.
I've already addressed this non-sequitur at the end, but "a human mistake"? Really? Give me a break.
Yes, DYH, a human mistake is a perfectly reasonable explanation for what happened there.
Maybe if you'd waited five minutes, you wouldn't look so ridiculous for this post.
Nice adhom.
I wouldn't be surprised if scum had an ability that, once claimed, town wouldn't lynch. Cop or doc perhaps? Yeah, seen 'em both.
Edit: 'nathed by Az
Editedit: He or we put you in a bad mood? Either way, why are you so upset over two votes?
I can buy that he's accusing Azrael of tunnel-vision, although I prefer Az's quip, that was much funnier.
Again, downing his attacker.
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Of course he didn't say anything about Az's meta initially; that's not the point - he was insinuating that what Az was doing (confusing people) was scummy. It was after the other people chimed in that suddenly he felt that way about it, too.
More impatience.
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I think the fact he's still arguing with Azrael means he has something to hide, yes. If he was the meek little townie he was playing to be, he wouldn't be taking shots back at him.
A definite hard shot at Ibug. I think that may be an exaggerated hit.
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There sure is - it's called he's making stuff up, and he's already admitted to it. Townies do not make up defenses for why they did something - they tell the truth.
Resting on an absolute. It's a persuasion tactic - not an investigatory thought process.
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I've already addressed this non-sequitur at the end, but "a human mistake"? Really? Give me a break.
Uh, Az? It's kinda hard to say your attacker is deficient when everyone in it has made it quite clear your attacker is not (deficient). You don't call Albert Pujols a bad baseball player to his face.
See, that's funny. I seem to recall getting guff from you for "sucking up." What a turnaround.
Hey, you guys remember how much fun it was when TFF had that role where he could keep people from being lynched? Gosh, imagine the possibilities if he could have used it on himself???
Hey, you guys remember how much fun it was when TFF had that role where he could keep people from being lynched? Gosh, imagine the possibilities if he could have used it on himself???
yeah, I just claimed. Get over it.
Now we just have to figure out how DC made this balanced on a scum. *ponders*
*thinks, nods* Yeah, I don't see DYH getting that upset as a townie here. He's not a power role - he has no reason to get this upset over being nailed by me and Manders. Why is he getting all riled up about this when he can't be mislynched? He should be feeling safe, impregnable. Instead he's completely scrambling.
But how did DC possibly balance that? Maybe he won't count in favor of the mafia win condition anymore, once he's lynched? That'd be pretty elegant, actually. : )
@Skander: Duly noted, I'm not sure that I've ever cracked like this before either. My apologies if I've offended anyone, but I've decided it's time to try something new.
@Skander: Duly noted, I'm not sure that I've ever cracked like this before either. My apologies if I've offended anyone, but I've decided it's time to try something new.
Yeah, normally you're pretty cool under pressure. My gut says this is townie frustration but I've learned not to trust my gut without something to back it up.
Duel Monsters (sorry, not Masters) #435 - #454 should give you what AI is referring to.
Not one of my shining moments, much like this, I'm afraid.
I'm going to log out now, and as I previously mentioned I won't be posting from Fri-Sun because I'm going to be out of town.
I am serious about the Emirati delegate coming forward (I obviously have info), I can self-protect or protect others from a lynch, and I'm town (HI SEPPEL!).
The simplest way would be if he couldn't use the ability twice in a row.
-In which case, he's right that he won't be dying today, but we can set him up for lynch tomorrow.
Oh, that's right, you are a scum traitor. Yeah, that explains you being scummy.
@Manders: Yep, I got heated with Kraj because he implied I was stupid. What you witnessed with Cyan was me + Cyan per the usual. I don't recall having any heated discussions with you, however.
I am with az, That reaction at the end of all of this does in fact clear ibug for me for now. After DYH's response to his truly emotional and fed up reaction I will also go with AZ again. unvote vote DYH
It is a very strange claim of his... it's also strange that he would claim under 3 votes or so.
I believe the correct play is to test his unlynchability.
Unvote; Vote DYH
Is it possible that DYH is something to a super saint, in that something happens to whoever hammers him/her? Also, a scum with a higher lynch threshold (like 1 or 2 more than normal) is plausible.I second the request for a list of reads from vezokpiraka. However, I wouldn't require his read on everyone, because many haven't posted enough to make a read do-able.
I especially didn't like DYH's sheep comment, attacking barning on a wagon always seems like a scummy thing.
I feel significantly better about Azrael now, regarding his latest interactions with iBug.
the fact that he is correct and went first does not make those who agree with him sheep. Your random untrue insults are ineffective in defending yourself.
the fact that he is correct and went first does not make those who agree with him sheep. Your random untrue insults are ineffective in defending yourself.
If that makes you believe it; okay, man.
Azrael is the Rand Al'Thor of MTGS; the weave spins entirely around his actions - go read through this entire thread and dispute it. Try me.
Azrael is the Rand Al'Thor of MTGS; the weave spins entirely around his actions - go read through this entire thread and dispute it. Try me.
DYH does have a point here. Most of the people voting for DYH are just barning Azrael. Personally I don't trust Azrael at all, but DYH's actions don't add up from a townie perspective.
I am trusting az more and more as he backs down from ibug and attacks DYH. If I was simply barning az wouldn't I have been on the ibug wagon instead of opposing it the entire way?
DYH does have a point here. Most of the people voting for DYH are just barning Azrael. Personally I don't trust Azrael at all, but DYH's actions don't add up from a townie perspective.
Finally.
And most of the people who voted iBug early on did so, too. Then, once he makes what I considered a huge scum tell, Ced and I are on his case, suddenly Az is off and now everyone (especially Manders, who even went so far as to join the argument Az and I were having about said tells) is on me.
Holy crap, people, it's day one; quit following Az like sheep.
Notice how the wild scum seizes on to the first point of small agreement and attempts to amplify it into supporting his own arguments. This newsflash brought to you by V's safari.
Notice how the wild scum seizes on to the first point of small agreement and attempts to amplify it into supporting his own arguments. This newsflash brought to you by V's safari.
Let me know when you find that wild scum.
Did I really need to barn someone who stated that everyone was barning Azrael when that was already obvious? Someone I've clearly stated that is second on my scum list, no less? The actions of everyone in this thread has already made my case.
I am by no means saying Azrael is scum, but the blatant laziness in this game is overwhelming.
I was reading you as town until you said this. Relying on your claim to save you? This should be amusing.
Unvote
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Yeah, I'll never get a comedy award, that's for sure.
That doesn't necessarily mean he's scum! It could also be that he possess the popular noob mistake gene of thinking people he can't understand are scummy. I've suffered that.
Pretty sure we all have something to hide.
No, DYH, that's not what I was going for.
I was referring explicitly to the "can't remember his reasoning" portion, and the explanation I was thinking of is when ☺☺☺☺ happens later in the game, you can't forget it's there when you re-read, and it can hinder you remembering your original thoughts. Refute this, and I'll call you a liar.
Yes, DYH, a human mistake is a perfectly reasonable explanation for what happened there.
Nice adhom.
I wouldn't be surprised if scum had an ability that, once claimed, town wouldn't lynch. Cop or doc perhaps? Yeah, seen 'em both.
Edit: 'nathed by Az
Editedit: He or we put you in a bad mood? Either way, why are you so upset over two votes?
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Negativity way over the top here, taking a cheap shot at his attacker.
Dismisses, adversarially.
A threat. He's angry, either because he's protecting a power role, or because he's been flushed into the open on day one.
Again, downing his attacker.
More impatience.
A definite hard shot at Ibug. I think that may be an exaggerated hit.
Resting on an absolute. It's a persuasion tactic - not an investigatory thought process.
Again, angry and dismissive.
The certainty here is a little eerie, however. It's either the most bullet-proof scum-claim ever, or he's convinced someone seriously screwed up.
Because there is no case, but when Azrael starts - the sheep follow.
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See, that's funny. I seem to recall getting guff from you for "sucking up." What a turnaround.
yeah, I just claimed. Get over it.
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Do you see the part there where I stated that "everyone" had made it quite clear. Want to try again?
man, playing like cyan is fun!
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Now we just have to figure out how DC made this balanced on a scum. *ponders*
Because that should definitely be your first reaction.
So, who's the Emirati delegate?
We're playing this all vanilla-like, right?
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Speaking of reactions that aren't naturally townie.
Oh plus the cute little attempt about my Pujols comment.
Yeah, you're second on the list now.
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But how did DC possibly balance that? Maybe he won't count in favor of the mafia win condition anymore, once he's lynched? That'd be pretty elegant, actually. : )
Need to think about this.
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Oooo, I love the sad smiley face here!
He was definitely hoping to throw us off with that claim. Again, if he's unlynchable, why the dismay at all the pressure?
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Please continue dying, kthx?
How about we:
A) get the Emirati delegate to claim who (s)he is
B) Start actually looking for scum since we're 700 posts in.
C) Profit!
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1. Kill DYH
2. Profit!
It has fewer steps.
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Also, he got pretty heated in Duel Monsters when arguing with ZDS.
Yeah, normally you're pretty cool under pressure. My gut says this is townie frustration but I've learned not to trust my gut without something to back it up.
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Not one of my shining moments, much like this, I'm afraid.
I'm going to log out now, and as I previously mentioned I won't be posting from Fri-Sun because I'm going to be out of town.
I am serious about the Emirati delegate coming forward (I obviously have info), I can self-protect or protect others from a lynch, and I'm town (HI SEPPEL!).
Bye
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The simplest way would be if he couldn't use the ability twice in a row.
-In which case, he's right that he won't be dying today, but we can set him up for lynch tomorrow.
Vote: DYH
Then if he flips town lynch the Emirati delegate.
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Could you be any scummier?
@TFF: I'm afraid you're wrong.
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@Manders: Yep, I got heated with Kraj because he implied I was stupid. What you witnessed with Cyan was me + Cyan per the usual. I don't recall having any heated discussions with you, however.
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If you really are town, please start playing like it.
We are not lynching anyone while they are away.
I would like an analysis from you on everybody in the game, please. I think it will help us all to understand you.
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Lynching him while he's not here is a bad plan.
I believe the correct play is to test his unlynchability.
Unvote; Vote DYH
Is it possible that DYH is something to a super saint, in that something happens to whoever hammers him/her? Also, a scum with a higher lynch threshold (like 1 or 2 more than normal) is plausible.I second the request for a list of reads from vezokpiraka. However, I wouldn't require his read on everyone, because many haven't posted enough to make a read do-able.
I especially didn't like DYH's sheep comment, attacking barning on a wagon always seems like a scummy thing.
I feel significantly better about Azrael now, regarding his latest interactions with iBug.
Side effect for us? -Or just you?
I'm shocked. Really.
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If that makes you believe it; okay, man.
Azrael is the Rand Al'Thor of MTGS; the weave spins entirely around his actions - go read through this entire thread and dispute it. Try me.
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@TFF: I'm just making stuff up. That's townie, right?
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DYH does have a point here. Most of the people voting for DYH are just barning Azrael. Personally I don't trust Azrael at all, but DYH's actions don't add up from a townie perspective.
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Finally.
And most of the people who voted iBug early on did so, too. Then, once he makes what I considered a huge scum tell, Ced and I are on his case, suddenly Az is off and now everyone (especially Manders, who even went so far as to join the argument Az and I were having about said tells) is on me.
Holy crap, people, it's day one; quit following Az like sheep.
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Let me know when you find that wild scum.
Did I really need to barn someone who stated that everyone was barning Azrael when that was already obvious? Someone I've clearly stated that is second on my scum list, no less? The actions of everyone in this thread has already made my case.
I am by no means saying Azrael is scum, but the blatant laziness in this game is overwhelming.
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So, I take that to mean you aren't answering the question?