Remember what you said about me in Basic #10, at the end of Day 1? After my big long rant post?
Yeah, I thought you were town because I didn't see scum spending that much time on a post when they're about to get lynched.
This is a bit different though, because tordeck isn't fighting back, he's just saying, "This is my playstyle. If I get lynched here, I get lynched here. I hope to benefit from this in the long run." Obviously it's a flawed strategy but I don't think it's necessarily scummy. However, whether it's actually a town tell is debatable, like I said.
Incredibly is pushing it but he has taken on a better townie mind set. Unvote OMT
Wrath of Dog: post #413 was terrible, by putting suspicion on multiple parties (2 of which with WIFOM logic), and using a joboman post out of context to justify a vote on HC. He also keeps voting for OMT.
I am opertunisticly lurking? Yeah a little. But I read every post that is made, and instead of beating a dead horse when I agree with someone I act. Does that make me look scummy? Maybe. But I figure the only way to beat thre meta to to always play the same regardless of alignment. Will it get me lynched a few times? More than likely. But it will end up helping me in games down the road. So I play my way no matter what.
Its about being consistant, no matter how iyou think I'm playing. Because over the long term noone will be able to get aread one way or the other and this will help me over accross every game I play. If I look like scum wiether I'm town,cult,neutral,or scum. Your right it isn't a pro town mindset for this particular game but it is a pro me mindset for the over all long haul.
These posts are horrible. We are trying to win a game here not set ourselves up for later down the road. Its obvious your not helping the town out at all.
On the claim, vanilla townie? Ha think you just made a mistake. Like tordeck over WOD Vote Tordeck
On the claim, vanilla townie? Ha think you just made a mistake. Like tordeck over WOD Vote Tordeck
No mistake, when I paraphrased my role pm I used the more common way of giving roles (from what I've seen) my above post shows the exact as per this game.
I'm a programer at Yamagato Industries. I'm the sidekick and friend to Hiro, self proclaimed master of time and space.
No powers
Win when all the villains have been eliminated
Believable enough, though I'm a little concerned that you claimed early.
It could easily be a false claim, as well. I'd be OK with lynching him given his play overall.
He has still made absolutely zero effort to answer the accusations against him. That he claimed means he doesn't want to get lynched, so the failure to respond is all the more telling.
Reallyb what's the differance between L-2 and L-3? Not much really so I went ahead and claimed as that is the usual thing to do around now.
I did answer (in my own way) don't like what I had to say then to bad.
I want to win as much as the next person and if that means siezing an oppertunity to get rid of scum or nuetrals that are inheirently anti-town no matter what they say to the contrary then yes I am going to jump at those oppertunitys
I did answer (in my own way) don't like what I had to say then to bad.
I want to win as much as the next person and if that means siezing an oppertunity to get rid of scum or nuetrals that are inheirently anti-town no matter what they say to the contrary then yes I am going to jump at those oppertunitys
I'll deal with these paragraphs in reverse order.
First of all, you have never provided a shred of evidence as to why you believe Vezo to be anti-town (despite what he says), in fact, you were intentionally vague when probed on this point in your posts. You never even so much as said a word about HC until you thought you could get him lynched, and your reasoning was, quite frankly, awful. If you're so sure Vezo is harmful to the town and HC is scum despite his claim then make a case, a real case.
Secondly, you saying that you're only interested in helping yourself is anti-town, and there's no two ways about it. You have a weak claim, you have been very scummy thus far in the game, and to top it off even on the (admittedly small) chance that you're telling the truth you've already told us that you plan to continue to act scummy. Not only act scummy, but be an active detriment to the town as you've twice irresponsibly tried to push lynches.
Tordeck's claim does nothing for him, but I had him solidly neutral, no real read whatsoever. I'll have to go deeper in the case on him.
Syrenz: What kind of analysis did you get out of your rolename question?
Finally, Nom_Anor's last post is terribad. I know frustration over some players playstyle is normal around here, but never an acceptable reason for lynching. And lynching should never be used to impose a lesson. Terribad reasoning by Nom.
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Secondly, you saying that you're only interested in helping yourself is anti-town, and there's no two ways about it. You have a weak claim, you have been very scummy thus far in the game, and to top it off even on the (admittedly small) chance that you're telling the truth you've already told us that you plan to continue to act scummy. Not only act scummy, but be an active detriment to the town as you've twice irresponsibly tried to push lynches.
This post makes my hair stand on end. And I have quite long hair, so that's quite a feat.
The misrep in this post... I almost don't know where to begin. He didn't say he's only interested in helping himself, and he didn't say that he "plans to continue acting scummy". Those are your words, I'd ask you not to put them in his mouth for the sake of flinging mud.
What he said was that he's going to continue hunting scum. That, to me, is the exact opposite of what you just said.
This post makes my hair stand on end. And I have quite long hair, so that's quite a feat.
The misrep in this post... I almost don't know where to begin. He didn't say he's only interested in helping himself, and he didn't say that he "plans to continue acting scummy". Those are your words, I'd ask you not to put them in his mouth for the sake of flinging mud.
What he said was that he's going to continue hunting scum. That, to me, is the exact opposite of what you just said.
Unvote, Vote TheIceMan.
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Its about being consistant, no matter how iyou think I'm playing. Because over the long term noone will be able to get aread one way or the other and this will help me over accross every game I play. If I look like scum wiether I'm town,cult,neutral,or scum. Your right it isn't a pro town mindset for this particular game but it is a pro me mindset for the over all long haul.
Believable enough, though I'm a little concerned that you claimed early.
It could easily be a false claim, as well. I'd be OK with lynching him given his play overall.
Ugh. I don't like this at all, my reads are all being screwed up.
First, to address Tordeck's playing strategy: I think it's already been said, but I think I'll mention again that that strategy is just a terrible way to play this game. I understand where you're coming from but I agree with whoever said that the goal is to play like town all the time, not scum. If you look like scum all the time you'll always be making new tells and getting lynched regardless of your alignment.
Tordeck's claim is just "Meh." I could believe it, but it's an easy false-claim too. Honestly I'm sorta torn on him: his play has all screamed scum evidence-wise, his claim means nothing, and now my gut is starting to say he's just newbie town who thinks this strategy will actually help him. A little part of me wishes he would get lynched regardless just to get rid of this stupid playstyle, but I'm not a fan of ruining my game for the purposes of meta (which is what Tordeck's doing).
So long story short: Tordeck's still scummy, but didn't get any scummier. I hate his playstyle and half-wish he would get lynched to teach him a lesson, but I'm not convinced it's really the right play for now.
1) OMT is incredibly town. For everyone on his wagon, I invite you to go look at: #117, wherein he votes joboman well before the wagon took off. coupled with 254 & 256, I see no way that OMT can be mafia. Newb scum don't bus like that. His attempt at analysis in 396 is also indicative of townie scumhunting.
I think it's important to remember that attacking mafia doesn't mean he's not scum. I think it means pretty obviously that he's not mafia, but he could still be Sylar. Sylar would have no clue whether jobo was mafia or town. I still agree with you on the conclusion that OneMoreTime is town, but we should be careful not to rule him out for the future since Sylar is still a possibility.
Finally, Nom_Anor's last post is terribad. I know frustration over some players playstyle is normal around here, but never an acceptable reason for lynching. And lynching should never be used to impose a lesson. Terribad reasoning by Nom.
On the contrary, lets suppose he were just posting spam. Never commenting on wagons, just throwing out random votes and talking about the whether.
We would never be able to know if he's town or scum by what he's posting, and we'd have no choice but to lynch him.
He's attempting to do the same thing here, only slightly less spammish. But the same theory. If we don't lynch him, then we're letting him get away with it. Saying we're fine with him joining our mafia games and not contributing--from which he hasn't recanted. He still thinks it's a fine strategy to ditch this game to win the next game. Let me say this again: he is intentionally hurting the town in this game so he can do better as scum next game, which is, in my opinion, unacceptable. And so the only solution is to lynch him, or at least pressure him into posting content.
And you know what; chances are, three games from now, I'm going to be saying the same thing. And he really is going to be scum. And you're all going to tell me "no, tordeck's just always like that." And he's going to win with his stupid strategy. And I'm just going to say I told you so.
So yes, if tordeck is willing to hurt the town in this game to try and get an edge up in a future game, then I'm willing to hurt the town in this game to block him. If you're going to lynch me for that, then you're exactly the same as me, just directed at the wrong person.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
I don't care that you don't like it personally. From what I've seen actually, Tordeck has had some bad statements, but he also said not too long ago that he was totally scumhunting, or at least planning on it.
You are basing a case for his lynch based on a playstyle that you just disagree with and the chance of it becoming worse in the future. If you really feel like his playstyle is something to worry about, take it up with someone outside the game, but don't use it as fuel for your vote. Your reasoning for voting him is to teach him a lesson, regardless of his alignment. That's damn scummy.
Still, need to reread Tordeck, this argument has me distracted.
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On the contrary, lets suppose he were just posting spam. Never commenting on wagons, just throwing out random votes and talking about the whether.
We would never be able to know if he's town or scum by what he's posting, and we'd have no choice but to lynch him.
He's attempting to do the same thing here, only slightly less spammish. But the same theory. If we don't lynch him, then we're letting him get away with it. Saying we're fine with him joining our mafia games and not contributing--from which he hasn't recanted. He still thinks it's a fine strategy to ditch this game to win the next game. Let me say this again: he is intentionally hurting the town in this game so he can do better as scum next game, which is, in my opinion, unacceptable. And so the only solution is to lynch him, or at least pressure him into posting content.
And you know what; chances are, three games from now, I'm going to be saying the same thing. And he really is going to be scum. And you're all going to tell me "no, tordeck's just always like that." And he's going to win with his stupid strategy. And I'm just going to say I told you so.
So yes, if tordeck is willing to hurt the town in this game to try and get an edge up in a future game, then I'm willing to hurt the town in this game to block him. If you're going to lynch me for that, then you're exactly the same as me, just directed at the wrong person.
If tordeck develops a history of being problematic in games of Mafia, he can be modkilled, excluded from future games by their hosts, put on probation, and/or blacklisted. However, none of these are your call to make. If you have a problem with what he's doing, contact Zionite or the Mafia Council and have them deal with him. If you're going vote him for this then you're no better than he is.
Tordek has straight up said that he doesn't care about the rest of us in this game. He cares only for himself, and that type of mentality can only be associated with scum. I couldn't care less about his future games, even if I'm in them. He's admittedly not playing with the Town, and therefore he has earned my vote.
unvote: WoD, Vote: tordek
Yes, this vote puts him at L-1 by my count. Yes, I am aware of that. Yes, I'm okay with a hammer.
Based solely on my wagon I am going to say
Town - AI, HC, Syrenz and Ice
Scum - Nom Anor, and Dropkickdude.
Reasons town are looking out for this game and its integrity
Scum just want to force a mislynch to "teach me a leson"
I am leaning town on OMt but don't have a full read
Tacky is pining the scumdar with the whole I got ro reread tor bits that have been in is last few posts, if he was town he would have made a case by now as my play as been terribly scummy
Ir's not so much that i want to see you lynched to teach you a lesson so much that I think you are likely to be scum based off of your play and if you are town its sad that we lose a townie but you have been completely useless in this game anyway.
you are also discrediting your own wagon, and more importantly doing it badly, this does in fact make you look more scummy. However I think its worth talking about some more, WOD is really striking me the wrong way. And what we really don't need now is another RO moment. I still think he is probably second most scummy and he may be the lynch for today but I think there are in fact other options.
IN OTHER WORDS DONT FRKN HAMMER.....PLEASE!
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How did I do it badly? I gave names and reasons. Sure it wasn't a full pbpa but it doesn't need to be. I think I was pretty clear as to why I thought what.
How did I do it badly? I gave names and reasons. Sure it wasn't a full pbpa but it doesn't need to be. I think I was pretty clear as to why I thought what.
Except for the part where you totally misrepresent what I said. I don't care about future games, I care about this one where you are acting like scum through and through.
I don't think you need to be taught a lesson whatsoever, I think that if this kind of behavior persists and isn't a gambit then the council should be brought into this. For now i think you are either gambitting scum or useless town
and yeah people do care about this game, your strategy of being useless now isn't going to help you later it will get you lynched more. I think i can safely say that most of the people on your wagon aren't lynching you just cause they think your annoying. That's just an aside.
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I'm really not seeing Todeck as scum. He's being unhelpful and not pro-town, but I don't see him actually being scummy. I do not support his lynch.
I am mildly surprised that Ando is not some kind of mason with Hiro, but that's not especially relevant.
Further: Nom_anor continues to push for lynches that have nothing to do with actually looking for scum.
@HC: Sure, OMT could be Sylar, but looking for a SK - especially this early in the game - isn't all that fruitful an endeavour. I am content to assume he is town for now and look back at him in a day or two.
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Hm, good point. I didn't even think of that. I sorta figure though that as a presumed serial killer he'd probably want to kill whenever he can, right?
This is something I didn't consider, but it does assume that Sylar has the standard SK win-con (which is totally plausible). I also think reducing options is a Good Thing.
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I'd like to see someone make an actual case against WoD rather than everyone just saying he's acting scummy.
I pointed out a particular post of his, but I'll go back and make a proper case soon/overnight.
Ecophagy's scum list is pretty good. Nom_Anor and Wrath_of_DoG are next on my list of people to look into. Archmage Eternal I've been reading as town, though.
Dammit. I can't tell if you keep agreeing with me because we're town on the same wavelength, or you're crafty scum.
I pointed out a particular post of his, but I'll go back and make a proper case soon/overnight.
I realize you did, but a lot of people have simply said he's scummy when there really isn't a complete case out there yet.
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Tacky is pining the scumdar with the whole I got ro reread tor bits that have been in is last few posts, if he was town he would have made a case by now as my play as been terribly scummy
Why would he make a case when there's already one out there? And all you're going to say is that you've been doing it all intentionally, so it's a total waste of time.
Because making a case is what a good townie would do. There are still a few individuals that don't feel I'm scum. Wouldn't it be in the towns best interest to work on removing said threat
Because making a case is what a good townie would do. There are still a few individuals that don't feel I'm scum. Wouldn't it be in the towns best interest to work on removing said threat
What threat?
And what do you think Tacky (if he's scum) stands to gain by waiting to give his opinion on you?
His delaying did peek my interest and after thoughts on it yes I feel that he is useing this as a tactic to take the pressure of someone else.
Do you honestly think if I was worried bout taking pressure off myself I would have ben playing the game this way? Oh boy you are confused. Or just really good at pretending to be town and trying to get somone to hammer this mislynch. The more you talk the more I think you are not town at all.
His delaying did peek my interest and after thoughts on it yes I feel that he is useing this as a tactic to take the pressure of someone else.
Do you honestly think if I was worried bout taking pressure off myself I would have ben playing the game this way? Oh boy you are confused. Or just really good at pretending to be town and trying to get somone to hammer this mislynch. The more you talk the more I think you are not town at all.
In fact ill go so far as to unvote vote iceman
First of all, my point was that your logic is circular. For him to be taking the pressure off his scumbuddies you have to start with the assumption that he's scum. But you have no evidence he's scum besides a tell which is only scummy if you assume he's scum in the first place. Confused? Yeah, I am too by your logic.
No, you're playing this way because you're scum and you're using the excuse as a ploy to get you out of a bad situation.
Then there's the blatant OMGUS. If you actually believed I was scum you would have refuted my case long ago and showed how it was indicative of me trying to get you mislynched.
That you said I was town not 20 posts ago only further proves that you're scum, and you're just trying to deflect on anyone you can.
His delaying did peek my interest and after thoughts on it yes I feel that he is useing this as a tactic to take the pressure of someone else.
Do you honestly think if I was worried bout taking pressure off myself I would have ben playing the game this way? Oh boy you are confused. Or just really good at pretending to be town and trying to get somone to hammer this mislynch. The more you talk the more I think you are not town at all.
In fact ill go so far as to unvote vote iceman
Ok, question time mister "blame TACKY".
First, if I'm delaying/distracting, who I am distracting from? Who am I taking pressure off of?
Second, how is my NOT weighing in on you causing more confusion? I'm not adding anything new, nor am I subtracting things. Or multiplying. Or dividing. Whatever. Point is that saying I add more confusion to your situation is terrible, because I'm not saying a damn thing really.
Now, after rereading the case against you, and most recently looking at your interactions with TIM(The Ice Man), who I now solidly believe to be town, I'm convinced that Tordeck is scum.
Eco keeps rubbing me as town, but could easily be crafty scum. I'm hesitant to call him town, but he's leaning that way for sure.
Cyouni is totally neutral. Lurking pretty hardcore, very few posts with nothing that points in one direction or another. Someone to watch out for.
Nom_Anor and WOD are going to be my main suspects come tomorrow, barring some drastic situation like a scum-investigation.
So, is there anything left to say, or do we hammer now?
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I believe Ecophagy had something to say about WoD...if it's pressing, we should let him say it. Otherwise we can just discuss it tomorrow. I was planning to reread him again soon either way.
Yeah, I thought you were town because I didn't see scum spending that much time on a post when they're about to get lynched.
This is a bit different though, because tordeck isn't fighting back, he's just saying, "This is my playstyle. If I get lynched here, I get lynched here. I hope to benefit from this in the long run." Obviously it's a flawed strategy but I don't think it's necessarily scummy. However, whether it's actually a town tell is debatable, like I said.
I'm Ando (vanilla townie)
I'm a programer at Yamagato Industries. I'm the sidekick and friend to Hiro, self proclaimed master of time and space.
No powers
Win when all the villains have been eliminated
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Agree with this.
So your rolename is Ando, Vanilla Town?
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What have you done this game? Nothing on tordeck? Hes center stage right now, your acting like your trying to take some pressure away from him.
Incredibly is pushing it but he has taken on a better townie mind set.
Unvote OMT
I agree.
These posts are horrible. We are trying to win a game here not set ourselves up for later down the road. Its obvious your not helping the town out at all.
On the claim, vanilla townie? Ha think you just made a mistake. Like tordeck over WOD
Vote Tordeck
They hate us cause they ain't us.
The exact wording is
Ando Masahashi - Friend (Hero)
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No mistake, when I paraphrased my role pm I used the more common way of giving roles (from what I've seen) my above post shows the exact as per this game.
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Believable enough, though I'm a little concerned that you claimed early.
It could easily be a false claim, as well. I'd be OK with lynching him given his play overall.
I did answer (in my own way) don't like what I had to say then to bad.
I want to win as much as the next person and if that means siezing an oppertunity to get rid of scum or nuetrals that are inheirently anti-town no matter what they say to the contrary then yes I am going to jump at those oppertunitys
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For the record: Yes, I think Tordeck is town.
OneMoreTime's "vote tordeck" post was freaking terrible, and anyone voting for him is either scum or silly, imo.
I'll deal with these paragraphs in reverse order.
First of all, you have never provided a shred of evidence as to why you believe Vezo to be anti-town (despite what he says), in fact, you were intentionally vague when probed on this point in your posts. You never even so much as said a word about HC until you thought you could get him lynched, and your reasoning was, quite frankly, awful. If you're so sure Vezo is harmful to the town and HC is scum despite his claim then make a case, a real case.
Secondly, you saying that you're only interested in helping yourself is anti-town, and there's no two ways about it. You have a weak claim, you have been very scummy thus far in the game, and to top it off even on the (admittedly small) chance that you're telling the truth you've already told us that you plan to continue to act scummy. Not only act scummy, but be an active detriment to the town as you've twice irresponsibly tried to push lynches.
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So here shall you fall
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"Just One More Chance"
Syrenz: What kind of analysis did you get out of your rolename question?
Finally, Nom_Anor's last post is terribad. I know frustration over some players playstyle is normal around here, but never an acceptable reason for lynching. And lynching should never be used to impose a lesson. Terribad reasoning by Nom.
The misrep in this post... I almost don't know where to begin. He didn't say he's only interested in helping himself, and he didn't say that he "plans to continue acting scummy". Those are your words, I'd ask you not to put them in his mouth for the sake of flinging mud.
What he said was that he's going to continue hunting scum. That, to me, is the exact opposite of what you just said.
Unvote, Vote TheIceMan.
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So here shall you fall
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Did you miss this post?
yeah same here
What makes you think this?
If he had answered yes, he would be confirmed scum.
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First, to address Tordeck's playing strategy: I think it's already been said, but I think I'll mention again that that strategy is just a terrible way to play this game. I understand where you're coming from but I agree with whoever said that the goal is to play like town all the time, not scum. If you look like scum all the time you'll always be making new tells and getting lynched regardless of your alignment.
Tordeck's claim is just "Meh." I could believe it, but it's an easy false-claim too. Honestly I'm sorta torn on him: his play has all screamed scum evidence-wise, his claim means nothing, and now my gut is starting to say he's just newbie town who thinks this strategy will actually help him. A little part of me wishes he would get lynched regardless just to get rid of this stupid playstyle, but I'm not a fan of ruining my game for the purposes of meta (which is what Tordeck's doing).
So long story short: Tordeck's still scummy, but didn't get any scummier. I hate his playstyle and half-wish he would get lynched to teach him a lesson, but I'm not convinced it's really the right play for now.
Hm, good point. I didn't even think of that. I sorta figure though that as a presumed serial killer he'd probably want to kill whenever he can, right?
I think it's important to remember that attacking mafia doesn't mean he's not scum. I think it means pretty obviously that he's not mafia, but he could still be Sylar. Sylar would have no clue whether jobo was mafia or town. I still agree with you on the conclusion that OneMoreTime is town, but we should be careful not to rule him out for the future since Sylar is still a possibility.
On the contrary, lets suppose he were just posting spam. Never commenting on wagons, just throwing out random votes and talking about the whether.
We would never be able to know if he's town or scum by what he's posting, and we'd have no choice but to lynch him.
He's attempting to do the same thing here, only slightly less spammish. But the same theory. If we don't lynch him, then we're letting him get away with it. Saying we're fine with him joining our mafia games and not contributing--from which he hasn't recanted. He still thinks it's a fine strategy to ditch this game to win the next game. Let me say this again: he is intentionally hurting the town in this game so he can do better as scum next game, which is, in my opinion, unacceptable. And so the only solution is to lynch him, or at least pressure him into posting content.
And you know what; chances are, three games from now, I'm going to be saying the same thing. And he really is going to be scum. And you're all going to tell me "no, tordeck's just always like that." And he's going to win with his stupid strategy. And I'm just going to say I told you so.
So yes, if tordeck is willing to hurt the town in this game to try and get an edge up in a future game, then I'm willing to hurt the town in this game to block him. If you're going to lynch me for that, then you're exactly the same as me, just directed at the wrong person.
You are basing a case for his lynch based on a playstyle that you just disagree with and the chance of it becoming worse in the future. If you really feel like his playstyle is something to worry about, take it up with someone outside the game, but don't use it as fuel for your vote. Your reasoning for voting him is to teach him a lesson, regardless of his alignment. That's damn scummy.
Still, need to reread Tordeck, this argument has me distracted.
If tordeck develops a history of being problematic in games of Mafia, he can be modkilled, excluded from future games by their hosts, put on probation, and/or blacklisted. However, none of these are your call to make. If you have a problem with what he's doing, contact Zionite or the Mafia Council and have them deal with him. If you're going vote him for this then you're no better than he is.
unvote: WoD, Vote: tordek
Yes, this vote puts him at L-1 by my count. Yes, I am aware of that. Yes, I'm okay with a hammer.
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RRR Krenko, Mob Boss Chaos
Town - AI, HC, Syrenz and Ice
Scum - Nom Anor, and Dropkickdude.
Reasons town are looking out for this game and its integrity
Scum just want to force a mislynch to "teach me a leson"
I am leaning town on OMt but don't have a full read
Tacky is pining the scumdar with the whole I got ro reread tor bits that have been in is last few posts, if he was town he would have made a case by now as my play as been terribly scummy
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you are also discrediting your own wagon, and more importantly doing it badly, this does in fact make you look more scummy. However I think its worth talking about some more, WOD is really striking me the wrong way. And what we really don't need now is another RO moment. I still think he is probably second most scummy and he may be the lynch for today but I think there are in fact other options.
IN OTHER WORDS DONT FRKN HAMMER.....PLEASE!
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So here shall you fall
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Except for the part where you totally misrepresent what I said. I don't care about future games, I care about this one where you are acting like scum through and through.
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and yeah people do care about this game, your strategy of being useless now isn't going to help you later it will get you lynched more. I think i can safely say that most of the people on your wagon aren't lynching you just cause they think your annoying. That's just an aside.
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Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
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"Just One More Chance"
I am mildly surprised that Ando is not some kind of mason with Hiro, but that's not especially relevant.
Further: Nom_anor continues to push for lynches that have nothing to do with actually looking for scum.
@HC: Sure, OMT could be Sylar, but looking for a SK - especially this early in the game - isn't all that fruitful an endeavour. I am content to assume he is town for now and look back at him in a day or two.
This is something I didn't consider, but it does assume that Sylar has the standard SK win-con (which is totally plausible). I also think reducing options is a Good Thing.
I pointed out a particular post of his, but I'll go back and make a proper case soon/overnight.
Dammit. I can't tell if you keep agreeing with me because we're town on the same wavelength, or you're crafty scum.
I realize you did, but a lot of people have simply said he's scummy when there really isn't a complete case out there yet.
Why would he make a case when there's already one out there? And all you're going to say is that you've been doing it all intentionally, so it's a total waste of time.
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What threat?
And what do you think Tacky (if he's scum) stands to gain by waiting to give his opinion on you?
And by now wieghing in he fuels the fire of confusion onme which takes away from his scumbuddies that have been under pressure of late.
Say WoD is scum, could nallowing the confusion around me allow WoD to escape the heat for a bit to regroup and come back more convinceingly town.
I used WoD as example but it could work for anyone else the town is suspicious of
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And who else is the town focusing on right now besides you and WoD? It looks like you just want the focus off you, and onto anyone else.
^ the above is a tordeck impression^
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
Do you honestly think if I was worried bout taking pressure off myself I would have ben playing the game this way? Oh boy you are confused. Or just really good at pretending to be town and trying to get somone to hammer this mislynch. The more you talk the more I think you are not town at all.
In fact ill go so far as to unvote vote iceman
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^ the above is a tordeck impression^
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
I'm happy with my vote. Horrible deflection, check. OMGUS, check. One-liners when he's not doing either of the above, check.
First of all, my point was that your logic is circular. For him to be taking the pressure off his scumbuddies you have to start with the assumption that he's scum. But you have no evidence he's scum besides a tell which is only scummy if you assume he's scum in the first place. Confused? Yeah, I am too by your logic.
No, you're playing this way because you're scum and you're using the excuse as a ploy to get you out of a bad situation.
Then there's the blatant OMGUS. If you actually believed I was scum you would have refuted my case long ago and showed how it was indicative of me trying to get you mislynched.
That you said I was town not 20 posts ago only further proves that you're scum, and you're just trying to deflect on anyone you can.
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Players needed to lynch: 9
Hunted_Charlie - 1 - vezokpiraka - (L-9)
red_0mega - 2 - Hunted_Charlie, Ace - (L-7)
tordeck - 8 - Archmage_Eternal, OneMoreTime, Syrenz, AsianInvasion, TheIceMan, Nom_Anor, Cyouni, dropkickdude - (L-1)
Wrath_of_DoG - 1 - Ecophagy - (L-8)
TheIceMan - 2 - tordeck, Wrath_of_DoG - (L-7)
Players not voting: StormBlind, red_0mega, dracofaust, TACKY
Please make me aware of mistakes.
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Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
Ok, question time mister "blame TACKY".
First, if I'm delaying/distracting, who I am distracting from? Who am I taking pressure off of?
Second, how is my NOT weighing in on you causing more confusion? I'm not adding anything new, nor am I subtracting things. Or multiplying. Or dividing. Whatever. Point is that saying I add more confusion to your situation is terrible, because I'm not saying a damn thing really.
Now, after rereading the case against you, and most recently looking at your interactions with TIM(The Ice Man), who I now solidly believe to be town, I'm convinced that Tordeck is scum.
Eco keeps rubbing me as town, but could easily be crafty scum. I'm hesitant to call him town, but he's leaning that way for sure.
Cyouni is totally neutral. Lurking pretty hardcore, very few posts with nothing that points in one direction or another. Someone to watch out for.
Nom_Anor and WOD are going to be my main suspects come tomorrow, barring some drastic situation like a scum-investigation.
So, is there anything left to say, or do we hammer now?
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Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
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"Just One More Chance"
Sounds good, I'll hammer before the end of the night unless someone speaks up. 10:00 PM is my end date.
I missed that. Still, you've been fairly inactive even before then. Still, you're still just a neutral.
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"