I'm not a huge fan of the "I'm a sucker for approval" joke tacked on at the end. Seems a little tentative, nervous even.
Not a joke. It's the truth. I like to hear I'm doing things right, and I'm all the harder on myself when I'm not. I like the fact that I noticed something odd here, it shows I'm looking for such slips, but I should have taken the time to think about what the consequences of pointing it out would be. You guys are right, there was nothing to be gained by the town. My relative inexperience caused me to jump at the chance to show I could analyze things and find little things hidden between the lines, but in my haste to do so, I failed to analyze my own post and see the potential negative repercussions for the town.
Not a joke. It's the truth. I like to hear I'm doing things right, and I'm all the harder on myself when I'm not. I like the fact that I noticed something odd here, it shows I'm looking for such slips, but I should have taken the time to think about what the consequences of pointing it out would be. You guys are right, there was nothing to be gained by the town. My relative inexperience caused me to jump at the chance to show I could analyze things and find little things hidden between the lines, but in my haste to do so, I failed to analyze my own post and see the potential negative repercussions for the town.
wow.... in his first post and everything... Drop kick dude isn't scum, he does not act like scum. The whole I want approval thing is major newb town. There is no way a scum goes around yelling (look at me i'm doing good). Lets off vezopiraka because he's outed himself as scum again very early.
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I was working with the assumption that he was unwisely claiming his role name, in which case I would have believed him. As he now wants us to believe that this was not the case, I no longer have a town read on him. Randomly claiming one's role name during the random phase is something I'd expect from a first-time townie (especially when said role name is extremely likely to be town), but a joke or lie could easily be made by town or scum.
My problem was that the person he was pseudo-claiming to be is being hunted by someone. You saying you believe him is going to make that person want to target him with a kill. That's why it's better to say you don't believe him or just say nothing at all even if you believe him. Although now that you're saying it's a joke or a lie (which I see as much more likely as I can't see motivation for true claiming that) all's right in the world again.
Not a joke. It's the truth. I like to hear I'm doing things right, and I'm all the harder on myself when I'm not. I like the fact that I noticed something odd here, it shows I'm looking for such slips, but I should have taken the time to think about what the consequences of pointing it out would be. You guys are right, there was nothing to be gained by the town. My relative inexperience caused me to jump at the chance to show I could analyze things and find little things hidden between the lines, but in my haste to do so, I failed to analyze my own post and see the potential negative repercussions for the town.
Does he normally play like this or is this really scummy? I'm calling "really scummy". He seems super nervous.
One more thought: OneMoreTime's posts #64 and #65 smell scummy too. They're calling attention away from the discussion to other players. "Hey look, a distraction!"
Sorry I missed the fun of random stage, but I'm here now and after the last few posts I got to vote vezo. Plain and simple bad playing and outing himself as scum quick and early.
Sorry I missed the fun of random stage, but I'm here now and after the last few posts I got to vote vezo. Plain and simple bad playing and outing himself as scum quick and early.
I don't have much to offer you re:Syrenz. He's never jumped out at me as particularly town/scummy in any games...his posting style is pretty baseline.
Unfortunate. So far I've noticed he's asking a lot of questions but not really analyzing the answers or making conclusions based on his lines of questioning. I didn't know how significant this is, but I'm going to make a note of it.
Ahh. Missed the fun.
Dkd is scum. He's clearly trying to get good with the town. I'll vote for him after stuff happens.
Both n00b scum and n00b town try to get on the town's good side. dropkiddude is clearly town in this case. "After stuff happens?" I daresay stuff has already started to happen. This post is awful.
wow.... in his first post and everything... Drop kick dude isn't scum, he does not act like scum. The whole I want approval thing is major newb town. There is no way a scum goes around yelling (look at me i'm doing good). Lets off vezopiraka because he's outed himself as scum again very early.
Sorry I missed the fun of random stage, but I'm here now and after the last few posts I got to vote vezo. Plain and simple bad playing and outing himself as scum quick and early.
"Outing himself as scum" makes me think you're bussing him. Hard.
My problem was that the person he was pseudo-claiming to be is being hunted by someone. You saying you believe him is going to make that person want to target him with a kill. That's why it's better to say you don't believe him or just say nothing at all even if you believe him. Although now that you're saying it's a joke or a lie (which I see as much more likely as I can't see motivation for true claiming that) all's right in the world again.
I wouldn't speculate too much based on the flavor. Clearly there are some parallels between the storyline and gameplay (the bomb and Sylar being hinted at as possible endgame scenarios), but I think you're stretching with this one.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
I think instead of outing himself as scum he may have just claimed the bomb, and if I read it right the more times he is tarrgeted at nite the closer he comes to blowing up. Making tthe safest way to get rid of him. To be right now with a lynch. Vote stands
OK. You got me. I'm ted sprague who for some reason you call the bomb.
My ability does nothing at all. At least for now but I think it triggers when people put pressure on me. Any kind. So I suggest to stay away from me just for the risk of getting both of us blow up.
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Unfortunate. So far I've noticed he's asking a lot of questions but not really analyzing the answers or making conclusions based on his lines of questioning. I didn't know how significant this is, but I'm going to make a note of it.
I reached the conclusion on my line of questioning to you in post 67.
I wouldn't speculate too much based on the flavor. Clearly there are some parallels between the storyline and gameplay (the bomb and Sylar being hinted at as possible endgame scenarios), but I think you're stretching with this one.
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I think instead of outing himself as scum he may have just claimed the bomb, and if I read it right the more times he is tarrgeted at nite the closer he comes to blowing up. Making tthe safest way to get rid of him. To be right now with a lynch. Vote stands
So he didn't out himself as scum before like you said? What was your reasoning for voting him before, ignoring this last thing?
OK. You got me. I'm ted sprague who for some reason you call the bomb.
My ability does nothing at all. At least for now but I think it triggers when people put pressure on me. Any kind. So I suggest to stay away from me just for the risk of getting both of us blow up.
OK. But if the town doesn't help I promise I'll do my best to blow up.
I'm neutral. or rogue
Okay I was trying to determine if you were telling the truth or you were just scum claiming something convinient to keep everyone away from you. If you claimed town you would almost certainly be lying.
I don't know. My wincon is impossible but just so it amuses you as much as me I'm a survivor.
Bad things happen when get stressed. Zionite won't tell what. All I know it's that bad things happen to me and the guy/s who stress me.
From what I found out it seems that me blowing up is what should happen.
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I think instead of outing himself as scum he may have just claimed the bomb, and if I read it right the more times he is tarrgeted at nite the closer he comes to blowing up. Making tthe safest way to get rid of him. To be right now with a lynch. Vote stands
OK. You got me. I'm ted sprague who for some reason you call the bomb.
My ability does nothing at all. At least for now but I think it triggers when people put pressure on me. Any kind. So I suggest to stay away from me just for the risk of getting both of us blow up.
"Pressure?" You'll have to be more specific. Do you blow up only if you are targeted too many times or would lynching you produce the same result?
Wow, this game just blew up (pun intended). Unless someone counterclaims, I'm inclined to believe everything vezokpiraka is saying.
I think the smart play with vezokpiraka for now is to leave him alone, but be very careful not to forget him. It's important to remember that the scum could set him off if it seemed like it might benefit them, or he might side with scum if it helps him.
Sidenote: I stopped watching Heroes midway through Season 3, but I thought Ted was the only guy who ever managed to really hurt Claire? Something about that makes me nervous.
So vezokpiraka is out of the hunt. I'm not sure I agree with everybody saying DKD and OneMoreTime are definitely noob town, but it does seem like that's just as likely as noob scum. So I agree that there's no point bandwagoning against them now. Unvote
I don't know. My wincon is impossible but just so it amuses you as much as me I'm a survivor.
Bad things happen when get stressed. Zionite won't tell what. All I know it's that bad things happen to me and the guy/s who stress me.
From what I found out it seems that me blowing up is what should happen.
The vague aspect of this bugs me. If your WC is 'impossible', then you shouldn't be opposed to telling us what it is. Especially since you apparently didn't mind telling us that you're a Survivor.
wow.... in his first post and everything... Drop kick dude isn't scum, he does not act like scum. The whole I want approval thing is major newb town. There is no way a scum goes around yelling (look at me i'm doing good). Lets off vezopiraka because he's outed himself as scum again very early.
This post annoys me. This post was before vezo 'exploded' (/pun). OMT, you're quick to condemn, especially with the bolded line.
The vague aspect of this bugs me. If your WC is 'impossible', then you shouldn't be opposed to telling us what it is. Especially since you apparently didn't mind telling us that you're a Survivor.
Sorry I missed the fun of random stage, but I'm here now and after the last few posts I got to vote vezo. Plain and simple bad playing and outing himself as scum quick and early.
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OK. You got me. I'm ted sprague who for some reason you call the bomb.
My ability does nothing at all. At least for now but I think it triggers when people put pressure on me. Any kind. So I suggest to stay away from me just for the risk of getting both of us blow up.
First,
Second, and I know I'm gonna take SO much flak for this but, I've not seen Heroes. I know the cheerleader is indestructible and that Sylar eats brains, but that's about it. So, who the hell is Ted Sprague and why is he a bomb? *goes off to wiki*
Finally, this seems bad. Someone mentioned end-game scenarios? Yeah, I'm of the opinion that this is very, very bad.
This reaks of inside information. How do you know Sylar gains others' abilities? FOS: AsianInvasion
Unvote, Vote: Syrenz for total blatant fishing. I mean seriously guys, did you see what he just did?
I think you are overreacting on Syrenz here. And this is total distraction. Wanna comment on the situation at hand, with Vezok or OMT or DKD or on of those other acronym guys?
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@AI: I'm not so sure. DKD's statement of 'I thought I'd earn some forum cred by noticing... I'm a sucker for approval.' seems pretty cagey.
That was to Asian AI..not Alpha AI..sigh. Why are you both in the same game.
I don't have much to offer you re:Syrenz. He's never jumped out at me as particularly town/scummy in any games...his posting style is pretty baseline.
I feel that DKD's reaction is town, apart from the "forum cred" thing. However, that reaction isn't scummy, merely odd. I don't feel that he's scum.
I also have nice vibes off Dracofaust.
AsianInvasion is AsianInvasion.
20 ppp is where I draw the line.
Only scum would draw a line.
Not a joke. It's the truth. I like to hear I'm doing things right, and I'm all the harder on myself when I'm not. I like the fact that I noticed something odd here, it shows I'm looking for such slips, but I should have taken the time to think about what the consequences of pointing it out would be. You guys are right, there was nothing to be gained by the town. My relative inexperience caused me to jump at the chance to show I could analyze things and find little things hidden between the lines, but in my haste to do so, I failed to analyze my own post and see the potential negative repercussions for the town.
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My Newb Town detector just exploded.
the man from jobo is in this game
Vote: Dropkickdude. This vote is serious.
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Dkd is scum. He's clearly trying to get good with the town. I'll vote for him after stuff happens.
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If I had a random vote, Syrenz would get it. This game isn't big enough for two evil geniuses! MWAHAHA-*COUGHCOUGHCOUGH*-HA!
As far as real game goes, the whole DKD 'earning some cred' thing seems bad. I've heard people cry noob, but I've seen him around for a while.
@DKD: How many games have you been involved in aside from this one?
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My problem was that the person he was pseudo-claiming to be is being hunted by someone. You saying you believe him is going to make that person want to target him with a kill. That's why it's better to say you don't believe him or just say nothing at all even if you believe him. Although now that you're saying it's a joke or a lie (which I see as much more likely as I can't see motivation for true claiming that) all's right in the world again.
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Does he normally play like this or is this really scummy? I'm calling "really scummy". He seems super nervous.
One more thought: OneMoreTime's posts #64 and #65 smell scummy too. They're calling attention away from the discussion to other players. "Hey look, a distraction!"
The Joboman thing was sarcasm, normal humans do that to be funny....
Vezopirka you're an idiot, yes that was a serious vote.
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How did Vezo out himself as scum?
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Yeah, I'm going to have to agree.
That statement alone would ping my scumdar but when you look at the whole picture of his posts so far his alignment should be obvious.
Unfortunate. So far I've noticed he's asking a lot of questions but not really analyzing the answers or making conclusions based on his lines of questioning. I didn't know how significant this is, but I'm going to make a note of it.
Or Isaac, since he's an artist and all.
I'll /third this.
Both n00b scum and n00b town try to get on the town's good side. dropkiddude is clearly town in this case. "After stuff happens?" I daresay stuff has already started to happen. This post is awful.
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I like you as town.
"Outing himself as scum" makes me think you're bussing him. Hard.
In my experience this is how nervous scum react when under pressure in the early game; try to pass off votes against them as jokes.
I wouldn't speculate too much based on the flavor. Clearly there are some parallels between the storyline and gameplay (the bomb and Sylar being hinted at as possible endgame scenarios), but I think you're stretching with this one.
I like you and agree with you.
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I though vez was town until he posted
Which is a bit suspicious, but I don't know what it means.
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My ability does nothing at all. At least for now but I think it triggers when people put pressure on me. Any kind. So I suggest to stay away from me just for the risk of getting both of us blow up.
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I reached the conclusion on my line of questioning to you in post 67.
I don't think it's that much of a stretch.
So he didn't out himself as scum before like you said? What was your reasoning for voting him before, ignoring this last thing?
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Are you neutral or town?
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I'll explain why I asked once you answer the question.
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Okay I was trying to determine if you were telling the truth or you were just scum claiming something convinient to keep everyone away from you. If you claimed town you would almost certainly be lying.
What do you mean by help you? What's your wincon?
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Bad things happen when get stressed. Zionite won't tell what. All I know it's that bad things happen to me and the guy/s who stress me.
From what I found out it seems that me blowing up is what should happen.
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I agree.
"Pressure?" You'll have to be more specific. Do you blow up only if you are targeted too many times or would lynching you produce the same result?
OK. It read to me more like you were simply giving up the chase but I wasn't sure.
From those quotes it sounds like Claire Bennet should not reveal herself ever. Seems like a good idea; we don't want Sylar to become immortal.
I like you as town.
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I think the smart play with vezokpiraka for now is to leave him alone, but be very careful not to forget him. It's important to remember that the scum could set him off if it seemed like it might benefit them, or he might side with scum if it helps him.
Sidenote: I stopped watching Heroes midway through Season 3, but I thought Ted was the only guy who ever managed to really hurt Claire? Something about that makes me nervous.
So vezokpiraka is out of the hunt. I'm not sure I agree with everybody saying DKD and OneMoreTime are definitely noob town, but it does seem like that's just as likely as noob scum. So I agree that there's no point bandwagoning against them now. Unvote
This reaks of inside information. How do you know Sylar gains others' abilities?
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Unvote, Vote: Syrenz for total blatant fishing. I mean seriously guys, did you see what he just did?
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The vague aspect of this bugs me. If your WC is 'impossible', then you shouldn't be opposed to telling us what it is. Especially since you apparently didn't mind telling us that you're a Survivor.
Seems like a stall.
Flavour would suggest that he could. Just like each heroes' power(s) would suggest their abilities - it's not that hard a connection to make.
This post annoys me. This post was before vezo 'exploded' (/pun). OMT, you're quick to condemn, especially with the bolded line.
Unvote, Vote OneMoreTime
Okay. But still:
I doubt scum would want to set him off seeing as "bad things happen to the guys that stress him"
Have you watched Heroes?
Are you talking about my questions to Vezok about his wincon and stuff?
yeah, would like to hear full wincon.
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Why? To both the vote and the OMT analysis. No comprende.
First,
Second, and I know I'm gonna take SO much flak for this but, I've not seen Heroes. I know the cheerleader is indestructible and that Sylar eats brains, but that's about it. So, who the hell is Ted Sprague and why is he a bomb? *goes off to wiki*
Finally, this seems bad. Someone mentioned end-game scenarios? Yeah, I'm of the opinion that this is very, very bad.
I think you are overreacting on Syrenz here. And this is total distraction. Wanna comment on the situation at hand, with Vezok or OMT or DKD or on of those other acronym guys?
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I don't think that the Spies thing is what they were referring to.