Lucknorris is scum. Clayton should be investigated tonight. Umm.... S_A isn't out of suspicoun, investigate him at an unknown time. If anybody gets roleblocked they should say they've been roleblocked and then S_A will need to tell why. Better yet, S_A's RB's should be controlled by the town....
I don't know if it will represent me as scum or not, I'm not familiar with millers.
I really hate to have to claim school work again for inactivity, but it is. Its midterm week here, but next week is spring break, so I'll be significanlty more active. I promise, or I'll ask for a replacement if I can't be.
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How about this: Given the circumstances you're pretty obviously scum. If we lynch you, we will know that, and you will also be dead and out of our way, in addition to having the cop capable of investigating another. If we don't lynch you, we're leaving scum alive for an additional night, while not being guaranteed to catch scum in your place tonight (though we do have a convincing secondary target). If, by chance, you're not scum, we've made a mislynch while allowing the cop to investigate to get us on track to catch the proper scum. It would be a loss, but nobody ever got anywhere without a few calculated risks. We're taking the risk of being wrong about you, and whether or not your death was good for us or bad, we'll be on the right track tomorrow, being able to take advantage of tonight's information.
But as I'm more than convinced of your scumminess, I don't really feel this is any risk at all--we've caught scum day one.
I can see this point., but I'm not sure I agree with it. Who would you propose though. I think its still best to go after joboman. We purge one scum, the scum buddies might act a bit differently, and we can pick up on it (kind of a hopeful speculation).
Re-Vote Joboman
Not a bandwagon vote before you accuse me of this. I already had voted for Joboman before and opted to unvote until I got caught up on the reading. I just feel voting joboman again is still the right move. Revote is pretty much on the account of his whole "CLAIM NOW OR I'M SCREWING THE TOWN" thing a few pages back, then the whole "well I could be a miller to make us second guess a lynch/investigation or whathaveyou result on him.. (I'm not fetching posts now, but if you really need me to, I will do so).
How am I hopping on the bandwagon? I gave you legit reasons on why I thought you were scummy and you still claim I hop on the bandwagon. What do you want from me? To just not vote for you? It's not like I just voted your for no good reason, I gave you my reason.
How am I hopping on the bandwagon? I gave you legit reasons on why I thought you were scummy and you still claim I hop on the bandwagon. What do you want from me? To just not vote for you? It's not like I just voted your for no good reason, I gave you my reason.
let me explain this from a less dead player sorta of view. You do very minimal posting, nothing that would appear to be scum hunting, and every post that seem more than 2 sentences makes you look bad. that would prior hammer behavior.
You hammered a lynch that you did nothing to build, either your timeing is circumstancial or your scum, hammering. which is more likely. For your vote at this time your jumping on the bandwagon. sorry that's just the sad truth.
let me explain this from a less dead player sorta of view. You do very minimal posting, nothing that would appear to be scum hunting, and every post that seem more than 2 sentences makes you look bad. that would prior hammer behavior.
You hammered a lynch that you did nothing to build, either your timeing is circumstancial or your scum, hammering. which is more likely. For your vote at this time your jumping on the bandwagon. sorry that's just the sad truth.
Yeah, I guess that's a good reason why. It's just I'm always scared to post because I have a knack for messing up.
About what A_E said: I was looking at the thread, left to eat supper, then had to go to church before exiting. So, here is my post. A little late now that Joboman is dead... but oh well.
I have answered this already. It would not garruntee you're lynch. If I got a bad investigation result from you, you could just say I was lying. If I got you as vanilla, who would believe me when there are three people against me? I will probbably get NK'd tonight, so not be able to get my results out. This also isn't a counterclaim. You're gaming the mod.
If someone claims that they are an unlynchable, unkillable, octa-voter, with 4 daykills and 6 doc-protects, then technically lynching that person solely based on his claim would be gaming the mod, but I would be just fine doing that.
I actually have more flavor, you're right. This will confirm if you're cop or not... I probbably should have mentioned this earlier. If we get around to it Day 2 I'll tell you what it means.
I just have to know... WHY didn't you claim miller earlier?
You show up out of nowhere, and without any real content vote for joboman because, and you state it blatantly, "you remember him acting scummy"?! That unsettles me, and if I wasn't so sure to have my vote on joboman, you might just have earned it. For now, FoS: Gigas1.
Well, I made sure that I wasn't doing anything damaging with the vote. As in, I wasn't putting him to L-1 or L-2.
After repealing that vote so quickly, now you're sure joboman is town? I'm pretty familiar with waffles, and you sir, just blatantly waffled. [/quote
While I respect your expertise in the field of waffles, I feel that I have an at least semi-acceptable reason and that is... I read the part I missed, and Joboman felt rather town-ly during it. Before reading that part, as I said, I remembered him as acting scummy and thought he warrented a vote. I could look up the posts I was recalling, if you would like.
[QUOTE=claytonthegreat;/comments/10648917]please check me, keeps me off the scum list... unless i'm NK'ed. either way.
what the hell is a miller?
From what I gather, in most cases, he wouldn't even know he's a miller. Even if he was, I think that he'd show up as a mafia if lynched, town if NKed, but even then, it depends on who killed him (vig or scum). Ultimately it would depend on the Mod and the role flavor though...
Unless they're a death miller, they'll come up town. And in most cases, players are told. Look at all the miller claims at the start of the game, which is really what joboman should have done if he were a miller.
joboman (6): Ravus, claytonthegreat, Cyouni, joboman, Archmage Eternal, Lucknorris Not Voting (4): Archon Kamigawa, wamyc, Sir Auron25, Gigas1
Following Clem's early failed attack on Ravus, the attention of the delegation eventually turns to claytonthegreat for suggesting that the representatives reveal where their loyalties lie.
"Let us not waste time, though I could certainly alleviate that problem should it arise, being Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind. A Stitch in Time saves nine, or so the saying goes."
~ claytonthegreat
Satisfied with this explanation, the others look elsewhere for the betrayers. After what seems like an endless series of deliberations, joboman decides to take matters into his own hands.
"Inconceivable! The time shall never come when Razia, Boros Archangel is fooled by your lies. Such an imposter cannot be trusted, for I am the true seeker of the Light of Sanction."
~ Cyouni
joboman, unrelenting, presses on in attacking Sir Auron25.
"Watch your tongue, rogue! The Grand Arbiter Augustin IV could have you thrown into a Statis Cell for such contempt. My word is law, and any who fight against me or the Guildpact shall suffer Swift Silence!"
~ Sir Auron25
With a shriek of exasperation, a council member blasts joboman with a Lightning Helix. The mighty bolt sears joboman's flesh to the bone, and the biomancer falls to his knees.
"So be it! I surrender myself to your judgment. Let it be known that my spirit shall not rest until the true Enemies of the Guildpact fall!"
~ joboman
Lucknorris suddenly steps behind joboman, wielding the Sword of the Paruns. Whether an act of cruelty or of pity, Lucknorris ends the life of the wounded elf. With a clean slash, joboman's head is cleaved from his body and rolls across the polished tiles of Prahv, coming to rest at the feet of Cyouni.
The Transguild Courier quickly crosses the guildhall to inspect joboman's lab coat, and reveals that joboman was carrying no weapons, only surgical tools and cytoplasts. joboman's ghost rises from his fallen body, moaning in incoherent agony while scowling at Lucknorris. As pure in hue as an Aurora Eidolon, the ghostly form of joboman cannot be one of the evildoers. Disheartened, the nine survivors retire for the evening, certain that none will sleep well.
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As dawn breaks over the plane of Ravnica, the representatives return to the Great Hall of Prahv, uncertain and unrested. They are amazed to see that joboman has returned to life, and that there is not even a trace of blood where last he lay. In addition, all nine delegates who left the Hall the Day before have appeared again, making their number ten once more.
"This is most unusual. While I am glad to see the pure-hearted biomancer alive, this situation puts fear in my metal heart. Remember your goal and find the evildoers amongst us. May the spirits of the fallen guide your hands."
Just knew that was going to happen. Now do we go after SA or Cyouni? Before you go into the flavor I'd like to know if anyone else has any flavor of being blocked. Also, SA who did you block? I'd like to hear this before anyone else actually comes forward.
Just knew that was going to happen. Now do we go after SA or Cyouni? Before you go into the flavor I'd like to know if anyone else has any flavor of being blocked. Also, SA who did you block? I'd like to hear this before anyone else actually comes forward.
Sorry Joboman for bandwagoning on you, it was my mistake.
why would you feel that it was a mistake? He's not dead, in fact unless there is some kind of alignment changing ability, I'm still sure that he is town. With no night kill that would make this actually pretty effective.
so were do we go from here? I'm to assume that someone has a redue ability, that is assuming that the (redux) is a hint of that. joboman is town, which leaves us with Sir Auron or Lucknorris. that is unless someone has a more brilliant idea
so were do we go from here? I'm to assume that someone has a redue ability, that is assuming that the (redux) is a hint of that. joboman is town, which leaves us with Sir Auron or Lucknorris. that is unless someone has a more brilliant idea
I want to wait till the others chime in. I want to hear from SA, and jobo. Then we go from there.
Was at FNM. wet 0-2 drop, so you guys have me now!
I was ressurected last night!
I mimic'd cyouni, and from the flavor I got it was apparent that he was role-blocked.
He was not lying about his ability. Since I was pretty damn sure who RB'd him, I investigated Lucknorris and he's town (I know, I was suprised too)
Unvote, Vote: Sir Auron
you, sir are not town for Rb'ing a Cop.
I also know Lucknorrises guild.
In regards to my rez flavor basically a cloaked man walked into the room, and performed a ressurection on me. I was pulled through some kind of portal called an Agyrum.
Lucknorris is town, Cyouni is town, Sir Auron is scum.
Was at FNM. wet 0-2 drop, so you guys have me now!
I was ressurected last night!
I mimic'd cyouni, and from the flavor I got it was apparent that he was role-blocked.
He was not lying about his ability. Since I was pretty damn sure who RB'd him, I investigated Lucknorris and he's town (I know, I was suprised too)
Unvote, Vote: Sir Auron
you, sir are not town for Rb'ing a Cop.
I also know Lucknorrises guild.
In regards to my rez flavor basically a cloaked man walked into the room, and performed a ressurection on me. I was pulled through some kind of portal called an Agyrum.
Lucknorris is town, Cyouni is town, Sir Auron is scum.
Was at FNM. wet 0-2 drop, so you guys have me now!
I was ressurected last night!
I mimic'd cyouni, and from the flavor I got it was apparent that he was role-blocked.
He was not lying about his ability. Since I was pretty damn sure who RB'd him, I investigated Lucknorris and he's town (I know, I was suprised too)
Unvote, Vote: Sir Auron
you, sir are not town for Rb'ing a Cop.
I also know Lucknorrises guild.
In regards to my rez flavor basically a cloaked man walked into the room, and performed a ressurection on me. I was pulled through some kind of portal called an Agyrum.
Lucknorris is town, Cyouni is town, Sir Auron is scum.
So you know my alignment, and my guild, do you know my ability?
So you know my alignment, and my guild, do you know my ability?
I know your alignment. I'm pretty sure of your guild.
I have no idea about your ability.
Can I say what guild I think you are? It doesn't hurt/help the scum as they'de have to mod-game hard to get that you have a powerful/nonpowerful ability from just a guild.
Hold it. There's some stuff I want to confirm first. First I want to hear from S_A and the replacements.
I second this, but seriously. Where I am (EST) Its 11 o'clock at night. I wouldn't be suprised if they don't post for a while, plus the day just started.
Fine, i'll be the first to say it: What do you guys think of the NK?
Oh and this
Damn the time is not there. It was a little before 6:30, and no post. Hmm looks like lurking scum to me.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I don't know if it will represent me as scum or not, I'm not familiar with millers.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
what the hell is a miller?
The miller thing would catch you if you investigated me, said I was town.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
I can see this point., but I'm not sure I agree with it. Who would you propose though. I think its still best to go after joboman. We purge one scum, the scum buddies might act a bit differently, and we can pick up on it (kind of a hopeful speculation).
Re-Vote Joboman
Not a bandwagon vote before you accuse me of this. I already had voted for Joboman before and opted to unvote until I got caught up on the reading. I just feel voting joboman again is still the right move. Revote is pretty much on the account of his whole "CLAIM NOW OR I'M SCREWING THE TOWN" thing a few pages back, then the whole "well I could be a miller to make us second guess a lynch/investigation or whathaveyou result on him.. (I'm not fetching posts now, but if you really need me to, I will do so).
How am I hopping on the bandwagon? I gave you legit reasons on why I thought you were scummy and you still claim I hop on the bandwagon. What do you want from me? To just not vote for you? It's not like I just voted your for no good reason, I gave you my reason.
My Mafia Stats - My Helpdesk
G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
How so? Reasons for this accusation would be nice.
My Mafia Stats - My Helpdesk
G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
let me explain this from a less dead player sorta of view. You do very minimal posting, nothing that would appear to be scum hunting, and every post that seem more than 2 sentences makes you look bad. that would prior hammer behavior.
You hammered a lynch that you did nothing to build, either your timeing is circumstancial or your scum, hammering. which is more likely. For your vote at this time your jumping on the bandwagon. sorry that's just the sad truth.
Yeah, I guess that's a good reason why. It's just I'm always scared to post because I have a knack for messing up.
My Mafia Stats - My Helpdesk
G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
by not posting you are also messing up, on day 2 try to due something constructive. find some scum don't hide. If you don't your good as lynched
Well, about the gaming the mod part...
I just have to know... WHY didn't you claim miller earlier?
Well, I made sure that I wasn't doing anything damaging with the vote. As in, I wasn't putting him to L-1 or L-2.
Miller=when investigated, turn up scum.
Not Voting (4): Archon Kamigawa, wamyc, Sir Auron25, Gigas1
Following Clem's early failed attack on Ravus, the attention of the delegation eventually turns to claytonthegreat for suggesting that the representatives reveal where their loyalties lie.
~ claytonthegreat
Satisfied with this explanation, the others look elsewhere for the betrayers. After what seems like an endless series of deliberations, joboman decides to take matters into his own hands.
~ joboman
Unconvinced, Cyouni scoffs with utmost scorn.
~ Cyouni
joboman, unrelenting, presses on in attacking Sir Auron25.
~ Sir Auron25
With a shriek of exasperation, a council member blasts joboman with a Lightning Helix. The mighty bolt sears joboman's flesh to the bone, and the biomancer falls to his knees.
~ joboman
Lucknorris suddenly steps behind joboman, wielding the Sword of the Paruns. Whether an act of cruelty or of pity, Lucknorris ends the life of the wounded elf. With a clean slash, joboman's head is cleaved from his body and rolls across the polished tiles of Prahv, coming to rest at the feet of Cyouni.
~ Transguild Courier
The Transguild Courier quickly crosses the guildhall to inspect joboman's lab coat, and reveals that joboman was carrying no weapons, only surgical tools and cytoplasts. joboman's ghost rises from his fallen body, moaning in incoherent agony while scowling at Lucknorris. As pure in hue as an Aurora Eidolon, the ghostly form of joboman cannot be one of the evildoers. Disheartened, the nine survivors retire for the evening, certain that none will sleep well.
joboman has been lynched.
He was Momir Vig, Simic Visionary - Town Biomancer.
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Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
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It is Day Two.
With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to lynch.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
In other news, I was roleblocked. Not cool.
so it would appear that this ability is apparent.
Just knew that was going to happen. Now do we go after SA or Cyouni? Before you go into the flavor I'd like to know if anyone else has any flavor of being blocked. Also, SA who did you block? I'd like to hear this before anyone else actually comes forward.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
My Mafia Stats - My Helpdesk
G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
jobo I'm not. That little "oh I might be miller" pushed me.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
why would you feel that it was a mistake? He's not dead, in fact unless there is some kind of alignment changing ability, I'm still sure that he is town. With no night kill that would make this actually pretty effective.
so were do we go from here? I'm to assume that someone has a redue ability, that is assuming that the (redux) is a hint of that. joboman is town, which leaves us with Sir Auron or Lucknorris. that is unless someone has a more brilliant idea
I want to wait till the others chime in. I want to hear from SA, and jobo. Then we go from there.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Who? I would really like to hear from SA and jobo about night before we get any other results/flavor from anyone else.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Yeah, what did happen last night?
My Mafia Stats - My Helpdesk
G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
I was ressurected last night!
I mimic'd cyouni, and from the flavor I got it was apparent that he was role-blocked.
He was not lying about his ability. Since I was pretty damn sure who RB'd him, I investigated Lucknorris and he's town (I know, I was suprised too)
Unvote, Vote: Sir Auron
you, sir are not town for Rb'ing a Cop.
I also know Lucknorrises guild.
In regards to my rez flavor basically a cloaked man walked into the room, and performed a ressurection on me. I was pulled through some kind of portal called an Agyrum.
Lucknorris is town, Cyouni is town, Sir Auron is scum.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
They hate us cause they ain't us.
He was totally paralyzed.
I do not get a large amount of somebody's flavor, usually just their role. I know some of Lucknorris's, maybe that will be useful later.
Guys, can we get some pressure on S_A?
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
So you know my alignment, and my guild, do you know my ability?
My Mafia Stats - My Helpdesk
G Omnath, Locus of Mana U Arcum Dagsson BUG The Mimeoplasm GW Gaddock Teeg X Karn, Silver Golem
I know your alignment. I'm pretty sure of your guild.
I have no idea about your ability.
Can I say what guild I think you are? It doesn't hurt/help the scum as they'de have to mod-game hard to get that you have a powerful/nonpowerful ability from just a guild.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
I second this, but seriously. Where I am (EST) Its 11 o'clock at night. I wouldn't be suprised if they don't post for a while, plus the day just started.
Fine, i'll be the first to say it: What do you guys think of the NK?
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
Or raather, lack therof.
Lots of people on! Lets get some discussion goin.
I See you gigas!
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
NO!
Day started early. I don't want to see people rushing votes this early. Let him get in here and make a post first.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Not sure what to think of the lack of NK, however I have some suspicions.
Yeah and I'm going to bed. Give them time.
They hate us cause they ain't us.