If someone comes out and says "I'm Durkon Thundershield" or something like that without a BLOODY good reason I'd be tempted to rip up my character sheet on the spot.
Honestly, this is fishing even more than the "Sexy Shoeless God of War" bit was. Having seen your play before, I'm not going to claim that you even realize the carelessness of posts like these, let alone are scum because of it, but seriously, cut it out.
Also, the fact that Banjo is a completely different alignment from Roy's Archon is the genius of it all. It's all a cleverly done facade.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
That ability means you don't get to ask any more questions this game, and if you do, you get modkilled. A question is defined as a sentence ending with ?
Obviously, with regards to this rule, we should be deciding who makes the hammer vote , as opposed to leaving it to the first person to enter the thread when everybody is bored of the day.
But, more than that, I think that we should set up a second voting system (or if we have everyone provide regular scum/town lists), where we decide who we want to place the hammer. If we leave it until the moment when the lynch is decided, what will inevitably happen is that, interested in getting the day over with, a couple of people will pop in and give their opinions, then the person whom those two people agree on will arrive and hammer. The result is not necessarily a good representation of the town's wishes. Making another voting system, as outlined above, would make sure that everyone knows (and has themselves influenced the decision) what the majority opinion is before anything happens.
Thoughts?
Actually, if anyone places the hammer vote before we are ready to end the day, said person is slated to be the next one on the noose.
In my mind, that is exactly what Tilde did. And it's exactly like something he'd do as scum, because he thinks he'd get away with it because he's Tilde.
I thought that's something in the past? You're telling me Tilde still plays like that?
Tilde made a reference to one of the main characters, the halfling Belkar who calls himself the "Sexy Shoeless God of War". Basically, he just goes round stabbing people. It's quite clearly an attempt to get Bilb to accidentally claim.[B]
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Sounds as if you're taking the opportunity to barn Cyan.
Honestly, this is fishing even more than the "Sexy Shoeless God of War" bit was. Having seen your play before, I'm not going to claim that you even realize the carelessness of posts like these, let alone are scum because of it, but seriously, cut it out.
Also, the fact that Banjo is a completely different alignment from Roy's Archon is the genius of it all. It's all a cleverly done facade.
No comment on the two wagons thus far?
Everything aside, I'm not buying Tilde's wagon yet. I'm not even sure Cyan is being serious with his initial attack on Tilde. But I can definitely go with Johm.
Ced probably is, though. Saying that Johm misinterpreted the Tilde wagon because of Zebi's random vote is nonsense. A bunch of people voted Tilde legitimately, Johm assuming that Zebi had also done so is natural.
Also, the way that he uses italics in post 62 reads to me as him knowingly trying to put more emphasis on something than it actually deserves. And his post is much, much more opportunist than Johm's attitude toward Tilde was.
If anything, by FoSing and then later voting, Johm showed an extremely pro-town attitude towards Tilde. I can't see scum bothering to be cautious so early in the game.
Aside from the FoS and not vote issue I don't have a problem with Johm. I don't like how Tilde said his name but says that we're getting nothing else. I don't see the town advantage in denying claim information before a lynch (although he isn't at that point yet, but given that he claimed his name I think he thinks he is).
Eh. Johm's play being markedly more focused outward, so to speak, then I've seen elsewhere, I'm going to go with town for the moment. And the other wagon is who? Tilde? There's not even a pretend case there yet. It's just a bunch of quasi-random votes that fell on the same person. Anyone who seriously calls that a wagon is probably scum trying to encourage an early mislynch.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
I have been getting town vibes from Johm, he seems forthcoming. The 'you're town POV' comment is interesting, but the idea that he was misrepresenting the ~T~ count is
And the other wagon is who? Tilde? There's not even a pretend case there yet. It's just a bunch of quasi-random votes that fell on the same person. Anyone who seriously calls that a wagon is probably scum trying to encourage an early mislynch.
I thought ~T~ seemed eager to get some names out there.
I disagree. I think that it did deserve emphasis. At this stage, it's a strong scumtell.
Clearly not that strong, since you are now accepting his explanation of it.
Never mind that, in other games, I've seen you point out posts/statements that were significantly more damning, without feeling the need to overemphasize them by using italics(or bold, or anything else).
Of course, this would have all been avoided had you simply probed him about it first, instead of trying to create a bandwagon against him for it.
The above is what I would expect from Ced as town, based on previous games.
What Ced did here absolutely stinks of newb scum play.
I was going to just question Johm for his post before Tilde's nameclaim, but then I decided to up the pressure instead because of the post afterwards, which contained the question.
Putting a single vote on someone doesn't add any more pressure to them than you would accomplish by simply questioning them, and you know it.
I can think of a fair few examples of games where I've voted somebody without probing them first. Newb 26, Fairytale and Cubus for example.
Putting a single vote on someone doesn't add any more pressure to them than you would accomplish by simply questioning them, and you know it.
Untrue. Putting a vote on a player, especially if it's a lynch-2 vote, is much more effective than questioning them.
I'm curious though. You got a name claim out of me, so you believe I'm no longer worth trying to lynch? It seems to me that you're trying to deflect attention away from Johm and onto Ced.
Untrue. Putting a vote on a player, especially if it's a lynch-2 vote, is much more effective than questioning them.
Obviously, OBVIOUSLY, I was not referring to a 'L-2 Vote', and if you took even 2 milliseconds to try to understand the context of a conversation, you would know this.
I'm curious though. You got a name claim out of me, so you believe I'm no longer worth trying to lynch? It seems to me that you're trying to deflect attention away from Johm and onto Ced.[/quote]
I think Ced is more likely to be scum than you. And considering that he was one of the few votes against you, it's unlikely that you're both scum. Thus, I am voting him and not you. And I am convinced that Johm is town.
@Ced:
That's not right at all. I have found that if you make points/ask questions on people, they respond much more regularly if you also add a vote or FoS. I mean, look at this game for example. I've asked a few people questions, and I don't think that I got any answers from them. Then, I vote Johm, and he's answering my points.
Voting people does compel them to answer, because they feel more pressured.
Voting only compels bad players to answer more than just being asked questions does. Oh, and scum of course. But a townie is typically going to address your questions either way. And I've never seen Johm ignore a question posed to him, in this game or any other.
Your vote denied him even the opportunity to act like a townie should act.
I won't comment on FoSing, which is a tactic that is only used to by A)bad players, B)new players or C)scum, and only ever accomplishes anything against bad players.
I'll admit that I don't recall having done that (italics) before, but I've already explained why I did so here.
As I said, I have seen you make significantly more relevant points in other games and not felt the need to italicize them to bring attention to them. A good point is a good point in it's own merit. Your use of italics here is just a lame attempt at making a point that has little merit look much more relevant than it ever was.
That's a rather strong opinion for anyone to take when we're not even 100 posts into day 1. Since Ced, Dagger, Zindabad and jordman seem to agree with me that Johm's vote that put me at L-2 was opportunistic/scummy, perhaps you should re-evaluate that opinion?
I think Ced is more likely to be scum than you. And considering that he was one of the few votes against you, it's unlikely that you're both scum. Thus, I am voting him and not you.
Post 51 is "Tilde is scum", whereas post 87 is "Ced is scum, which makes Tilde probably town." If you're going to change your opinion of me to the point where you abandon the wagon you've been pushing, I think asking you to look at Johm again is reasonable.
At the very least it deserves better than a brush-off response.
I guess you missed the part where I said that there is no way a scum makes posts 47 and 60. Just in case you can't put it together, Johm made those posts. Therefore, in my mind, there is no way he is scum.
Also, considering that I think Ced is scum, Johm can't really be scum.
Ced is saying that you asking Tilde 'how does it feel to have a wrong gut impression'(paraphrase) is effectively an admission, on your part, that Tilde is town.
And to be fair, it can definitely be read that way..because scum don't have gut impressions, they just tell lies.
What Ced doesn't see, that I see, is that you're just being indignant, and that none of what I just said in this post(obviously) occurred to you at all.
Maybe after reading all of this people will realize that you can't be scum, and that Ced's attack on you is scum opportunism at it's absolute finest.
Like I said I don't see much wrong with Johm. I don't have anywhere near the degree of certainty that Cyan seems to have though.
Cyan: If you're saying Tilde is town and Ced Scum and Johm000 town, I don't think it makes much sense for ced to jump off a quick wagon he's been handed to try to start a new wagon.
the suspicions seem to be flying rather thick and fast, cyan seems t be rocket propelling all of them which seems slightly scummish to me, just a bad vibe.
You mean like Johm, who was at 4 votes(5 would have forced a claim) and I've been adamantly speaking out against the wagon?
Yeah you got me there.
Tilde was suspicious because of his fishing, Ced is suspicious because of his opportunism towards Tilde and Johm, and his evasiveness in answering my questions.
EBWODP: @Skander: Why doesn't it? If Ced is scum and knows Tilde is town, he knows that a claim of Haley isn't going to get lynched. Johm provided him the perfect opportunity to distance himself from Tilde's wagon.
Whoever decided that putting forward and back buttons on the mouse was a good idea ought to be shot. That's the second time I've lost my post just by grabbing the mouse the wrong way. *sigh*
Anyway, the gist of it is this. This argument is going nowhere. It might be more important to decide the likeliest town member than the likeliest scum member today in any case, because we absolutely have to pre-determine who is going to hammer. I think Johm is the likeliest town member at the moment, and I want him to hammer. Thoughts?
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
vote jordman for flailing - first cyan is your best friend forever, now he's hurting your tummy? . . . + you've otherwise contributed. . . nil? Inarticulate barning?
Look at that sentence at the end. It's using some words with very strong connotations (for example, "...denied him even the opportunity..."), and it very much implies that you're accusing me of trying to trap Johm into a scummy response or something.
But, that is not the point that you were making. The point you were making is that townies should answer questions. But, as I've already discussed, sometimes they don't, and it's pretty null either way, especially as you say that you've "never seen Johm ignore a question", which would only be in ongoing games where his alignment is unknown. Hence, whether Johm answers a question or not without my vote on him is not really going to tell us anything.
But, the statement on the end is saying something different, and acting like I'm doing something really bad. How's that any different from what you're accusing me of?
Nice OMGUS deflection.
Seriously, are you guys reading this? Everyone piled their votes on Tilde and Johm based on practically nothing, then Ced and I go back and forth for the better part of 2 pages and nobody has anything to say about it?
Let's try this a slightly different way.
Please explain, in detail, what is so overwhelmingly relevant about the post that you referenced that you felt the need to use italics to draw attention to it. In explaining this, please include how this is different than other games that you have been in, where you have not felt compelled to use these methods.
EBWODP: @Skander: Why doesn't it? If Ced is scum and knows Tilde is town, he knows that a claim of Haley isn't going to get lynched. Johm provided him the perfect opportunity to distance himself from Tilde's wagon.
I guess this is where knowing the source material comes in handy...
Is a claim of Haley something that makes him not good for a lynch? Cuz you know if there is some reason that my vote on him is a waste of time it would be good to know. And of course this would be a big difference between Ced being oppurtunistic scum and townie scumhunting.
Knowing the source material, if Haley is a role in the game, it's a town role. The character is somewhat opportunistic, but I really couldn't even see her being cast as a neutral(unlike a role such as Belkar). She's a good guy..just a self-centered one.
Haley is probably Chaotic Good, which makes her a hard sell as someone who'd be part of an organization which would kill Shinjo. Unless arim is seriously warping the characters' motivations from the canon story, Haley and Shinjo are extremely unlikely to be on opposite sides.
Not that I'm saying arim can't warp the characters' motivations all he wants, or that Haley doesn't have a decent chance of being a mod-provided false-claim, but Haley as a claim is a pretty darn good one, given the setup in the first couple posts.
Anyway, I'm not seeing any especially strong indicators one way or the other with ced vs Cyan. Let's move on.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
No. No it isn't at all? How is this "OMGUS deflection"? I've been answering your points for several posts now, and, as soon as I raise a point of my own regarding the logic behind your attack, you just bat it away.
Besides, what else was I meant to do? Not mention it and hope somebody else brought it up?
Indignance in #60? I'm not getting any of that. I'm getting a strong sense of sarcasm.
Like I said before, I used italics to highlight it because I thought it was a strong scumtell. More specifically, I thought it was a strong scumtell for that stage of the game. In the early game, with little to go on, you usually only find lines which are merely unusual or interesting enough to question, sometimes to vote. I wanted to make it clear that it wasn't just a case of that.
And also, you know what? I remembered a place where I had done this before. Try this post in Cubus mafia. I start the post with exclamation marks, to draw attention to the post of D_V's that I did not like.
Yes. I'm about 180 or so comics in, having been reading since signups were posted.
Hmm. I guess that reference to Cubus' game more or less kills my point for now.
Not that I'm saying arim can't warp the characters' motivations all he wants, or that Haley doesn't have a decent chance of being a mod-provided false-claim, but Haley as a claim is a pretty darn good one, given the setup in the first couple posts.
I don't get how you can say the bolded part + still think a name claim is worth anything. + if arim has a history of providing scum with false claims, then this kind of thinking
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is a dead end. It's just not trustworthy information.
Arim really doesn't have a history of providing scum with false claims, as far as I remember. I've played in 2 of his games in the past and he didn't do so.
And the source material IS trustworthy information, IMO, until you have reason not to trust it. Assuming that scum are going to have false claims is just giving the mafia a ridiculous advantage.
Zindabad is voting himself..that one is a little concerning. How about some real content instead, Zind.
You don't think I could be scum, and thus that voting myself might actually help you? Or I could have a PR that requires me to vote myself. I could just be totally mad. I'm just not sure you've considered all the possibilities, Cyan me laddie buck.
Well, let's take a little gander. Can't see Johnm being scum, CP scares me in general, Skander and ced395 need to die untimely deaths, Rihannanalann reminds me of someone in an ongoing game, making me want to keep an eye on her, I'm going to start calling jordman "Callaway," Dagger unnerves me, Tilde doesn't strike me as particularly scummy but I think I want him dead anyway...yeah, that's all I've got.
I hope it satisfies you sir, and that you are pleased with my worshipful submission of "content" for your evaluation. But voting myself, alas, it is simply something I must do at this juncture, for wherever my heart leads me, baby I must go.
Who are your scumbuddies?
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Honestly, this is fishing even more than the "Sexy Shoeless God of War" bit was. Having seen your play before, I'm not going to claim that you even realize the carelessness of posts like these, let alone are scum because of it, but seriously, cut it out.
Also, the fact that Banjo is a completely different alignment from Roy's Archon is the genius of it all. It's all a cleverly done facade.
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1 Dagger - carrion pigeons
2 Johm000 - ~Tilde~, ced395
1 Skander - Bilbroxain
4 ~Tilde~ - Zebi, Cyan, Skander, Johm000
1 Zebi - Dagger
2 Not Voting - jordman, rianalnn
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
I was not joking about said question. /deadpan
Actually, if anyone places the hammer vote before we are ready to end the day, said person is slated to be the next one on the noose.
I am not really into OotS myself...
I thought that's something in the past? You're telling me Tilde still plays like that?
Sounds as if you're taking the opportunity to barn Cyan.
Last Arim game I played, he provided all the scums with false claims.
No comment on the two wagons thus far?
Everything aside, I'm not buying Tilde's wagon yet. I'm not even sure Cyan is being serious with his initial attack on Tilde. But I can definitely go with Johm.
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Ced probably is, though. Saying that Johm misinterpreted the Tilde wagon because of Zebi's random vote is nonsense. A bunch of people voted Tilde legitimately, Johm assuming that Zebi had also done so is natural.
Also, the way that he uses italics in post 62 reads to me as him knowingly trying to put more emphasis on something than it actually deserves. And his post is much, much more opportunist than Johm's attitude toward Tilde was.
If anything, by FoSing and then later voting, Johm showed an extremely pro-town attitude towards Tilde. I can't see scum bothering to be cautious so early in the game.
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And yet you're not voting him?
@CED I wanted to get hings rolling, seems it worked
vote johm l-2 now yes? n obody to l-1 kk?
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Eh. Johm's play being markedly more focused outward, so to speak, then I've seen elsewhere, I'm going to go with town for the moment. And the other wagon is who? Tilde? There's not even a pretend case there yet. It's just a bunch of quasi-random votes that fell on the same person. Anyone who seriously calls that a wagon is probably scum trying to encourage an early mislynch.
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It's a vote count.
I thought ~T~ seemed eager to get some names out there.
Hmm, good point. You should vote me instead.
unvote; vote zindabad
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Never mind that, in other games, I've seen you point out posts/statements that were significantly more damning, without feeling the need to overemphasize them by using italics(or bold, or anything else).
Of course, this would have all been avoided had you simply probed him about it first, instead of trying to create a bandwagon against him for it.
The above is what I would expect from Ced as town, based on previous games.
What Ced did here absolutely stinks of newb scum play.
Putting a single vote on someone doesn't add any more pressure to them than you would accomplish by simply questioning them, and you know it.
I was referring to the italics here.
Untrue. Putting a vote on a player, especially if it's a lynch-2 vote, is much more effective than questioning them.
I'm curious though. You got a name claim out of me, so you believe I'm no longer worth trying to lynch? It seems to me that you're trying to deflect attention away from Johm and onto Ced.
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
Obviously, OBVIOUSLY, I was not referring to a 'L-2 Vote', and if you took even 2 milliseconds to try to understand the context of a conversation, you would know this.
I'm curious though. You got a name claim out of me, so you believe I'm no longer worth trying to lynch? It seems to me that you're trying to deflect attention away from Johm and onto Ced.[/quote]
I think Ced is more likely to be scum than you. And considering that he was one of the few votes against you, it's unlikely that you're both scum. Thus, I am voting him and not you. And I am convinced that Johm is town.
@Ced: Voting only compels bad players to answer more than just being asked questions does. Oh, and scum of course. But a townie is typically going to address your questions either way. And I've never seen Johm ignore a question posed to him, in this game or any other.
Your vote denied him even the opportunity to act like a townie should act.
I won't comment on FoSing, which is a tactic that is only used to by A)bad players, B)new players or C)scum, and only ever accomplishes anything against bad players.
As I said, I have seen you make significantly more relevant points in other games and not felt the need to italicize them to bring attention to them. A good point is a good point in it's own merit. Your use of italics here is just a lame attempt at making a point that has little merit look much more relevant than it ever was.
That's a rather strong opinion for anyone to take when we're not even 100 posts into day 1. Since Ced, Dagger, Zindabad and jordman seem to agree with me that Johm's vote that put me at L-2 was opportunistic/scummy, perhaps you should re-evaluate that opinion?
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Post 51 is "Tilde is scum", whereas post 87 is "Ced is scum, which makes Tilde probably town." If you're going to change your opinion of me to the point where you abandon the wagon you've been pushing, I think asking you to look at Johm again is reasonable.
At the very least it deserves better than a brush-off response.
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Also, considering that I think Ced is scum, Johm can't really be scum.
Honestly Tilde. Pay attention.
Now I remember why this game is such a time sink - we're all busy chasing our tails + not parsing the thread. SKIM SKIM SKIM for the win.
Ced is saying that you asking Tilde 'how does it feel to have a wrong gut impression'(paraphrase) is effectively an admission, on your part, that Tilde is town.
And to be fair, it can definitely be read that way..because scum don't have gut impressions, they just tell lies.
What Ced doesn't see, that I see, is that you're just being indignant, and that none of what I just said in this post(obviously) occurred to you at all.
Maybe after reading all of this people will realize that you can't be scum, and that Ced's attack on you is scum opportunism at it's absolute finest.
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Cyan: If you're saying Tilde is town and Ced Scum and Johm000 town, I don't think it makes much sense for ced to jump off a quick wagon he's been handed to try to start a new wagon.
Please explain this.
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You mean like Johm, who was at 4 votes(5 would have forced a claim) and I've been adamantly speaking out against the wagon?
Yeah you got me there.
Tilde was suspicious because of his fishing, Ced is suspicious because of his opportunism towards Tilde and Johm, and his evasiveness in answering my questions.
Anyway, the gist of it is this. This argument is going nowhere. It might be more important to decide the likeliest town member than the likeliest scum member today in any case, because we absolutely have to pre-determine who is going to hammer. I think Johm is the likeliest town member at the moment, and I want him to hammer. Thoughts?
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Seriously, are you guys reading this? Everyone piled their votes on Tilde and Johm based on practically nothing, then Ced and I go back and forth for the better part of 2 pages and nobody has anything to say about it?
Let's try this a slightly different way.
Please explain, in detail, what is so overwhelmingly relevant about the post that you referenced that you felt the need to use italics to draw attention to it. In explaining this, please include how this is different than other games that you have been in, where you have not felt compelled to use these methods.
Most scum=Ced/johm
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B)How can you possibly have Skander as anything but unknown?
Maybe you(or anyone that is not Ced) can explain your vote on Johm. Because he really seems like super-obv-town to me.
I guess this is where knowing the source material comes in handy...
Is a claim of Haley something that makes him not good for a lynch? Cuz you know if there is some reason that my vote on him is a waste of time it would be good to know. And of course this would be a big difference between Ced being oppurtunistic scum and townie scumhunting.
Speaking of which:
Ced: Are you familiar with the source material.
Heh. I was wondering the same thing. Not that I mind being called town but I only have like 1 or 2 posts.
Not that I'm saying arim can't warp the characters' motivations all he wants, or that Haley doesn't have a decent chance of being a mod-provided false-claim, but Haley as a claim is a pretty darn good one, given the setup in the first couple posts.
Anyway, I'm not seeing any especially strong indicators one way or the other with ced vs Cyan. Let's move on.
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Hmm. I guess that reference to Cubus' game more or less kills my point for now.
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I'll have to re-read now.
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1 Dagger - carrion pigeons
1 jordman - rianalnn
1 Skander - Bilbroxain
1 ~Tilde~ - Johm000
1 zindabad - zindabad
3 Not Voting - Cyan, Skander, Zebi
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
And the source material IS trustworthy information, IMO, until you have reason not to trust it. Assuming that scum are going to have false claims is just giving the mafia a ridiculous advantage.
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I looooove when people make statements like:
I mean seriously, anyone that doesn't unvote him after that is either scum or a complete idiot.
Zindabad is voting himself..that one is a little concerning. How about some real content instead, Zind.
You don't think I could be scum, and thus that voting myself might actually help you? Or I could have a PR that requires me to vote myself. I could just be totally mad. I'm just not sure you've considered all the possibilities, Cyan me laddie buck.
Well, let's take a little gander. Can't see Johnm being scum, CP scares me in general, Skander and ced395 need to die untimely deaths, Rihannanalann reminds me of someone in an ongoing game, making me want to keep an eye on her, I'm going to start calling jordman "Callaway," Dagger unnerves me, Tilde doesn't strike me as particularly scummy but I think I want him dead anyway...yeah, that's all I've got.
I hope it satisfies you sir, and that you are pleased with my worshipful submission of "content" for your evaluation. But voting myself, alas, it is simply something I must do at this juncture, for wherever my heart leads me, baby I must go.
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