More or less everyone knows by now Spoon is CropCircles. It's the bestleast kept secret in the game.
Wait, what?
Please fill me in, because I didn't know that. Is this something learned because he messed up somewhere else on the site and posted in the wrong account?
Or are you guessing because of CropCircles presence on the replace list?
I think that, by telling you that your ability stops multiple daykills, this is a hint at the possibility that such is possible. Otherwise, why bother mentioning it at all? If there is only one possible kill per day, it is redundant to tell someone that their ability stops all daykills. Your ability also tells us, I think, that there are no day actions other than daykills, because A)you send the person somewhere else and B)the mod specifically pointed out that it stops multiple daykills, but didn't mention anything else.
Conveniently enough, CC returned to the site after a long absence more or less at the same time this game started. And he's viewing this thread a lot. And he's now the only person on the replacement list. It's not mathematically proven, of course, but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who connected the dots.
Anyways, I want to wait and see if my vote shows up in the votecount.
I think that, by telling you that your ability stops multiple daykills, this is a hint at the possibility that such is possible. Otherwise, why bother mentioning it at all? If there is only one possible kill per day, it is redundant to tell someone that their ability stops all daykills. Your ability also tells us, I think, that there are no day actions other than daykills, because A)you send the person somewhere else and B)the mod specifically pointed out that it stops multiple daykills, but didn't mention anything else.
1) it does not specficially mention that it stops multiple daykills. But the wording of it is such that I know it does. Like, immagine a night ability that made someone untargetable. You know it would stop multiple nightkills, but it doesn't explicitly say that. It just says it makes them untargetable. Now, you could read that as the mod intentionally making it stop multiple kills, thereby making it better than a standard doc. or you could look at it as there being no more than 1 kill per night and therefore it's the same. but you can't be sure which one the mod intended.
2) My role also specifically says that the person I haul off can still communicate via digital hookups and what not, so other day abilities that involve communications can still function for sure. I tried to find out if other abilities would work (both abilities that person uses and abilities targeting that person), and Az was non-comittal, but he assued me that the perosn I protect would not lose the ability to post or vote.
Also, interesting about CC. Seems like a solid theory.
I thought Spoon might be CropCircles until CC showed up on the replacement list. Because I thought that meant CC was replacing in tomorrow (still assuming this actually)and if Spoon were still alive then that would mean he couldn't have been Spoon.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
So Spoon is only at six by this count, including 3 votes from CP. We still need 2 more, and if we want CP to hammer he needs to unvote first.
It is not too late to do the day-kill thing, but I want some consensus about it and I still kind of want to hear the actual claims from Raf. and Abbey.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Crap, you people are really going to make me review all that Hawkeye stuff, arent you? Do I look like I'm made out of time? Hmmmm?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Seriously, I probably have no choice but to go along with the "will of the town," but I'm going express an opinion/preference before it happens. And I'd like more information first. What about that, or do you think having Abbey and Raf's abilities still unknown is a significant advantage at this point, even if somehow neither one of them were scum?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I'd like to hear from Raf on his abilities. Going along with my suggestion of having Alx target AG overnight to see what sort of rp comes from AG allows for some information on him to be revealed without using a kill method immediately. If there's a great deal of interest in trying to find out which person has the role of the Merovinigan, that should help to cut things down.
With Raf admitting to his rp'ing not being exactly his character, there's still too much unknown about him, even with his very vague and unknown name claim. He's the one that I'd most like to hear from at this point.
Also, I'm still very much for lynching Spoon rather than using the daykill on him. I can't imagine that his protection, assuming it's legit would extend to a lynch. True, it might take two lynches/day/nightkill to get rid of him, but I'd rather not see our first try fail. So I'm still in the boat of lynch Spoon and have Axel use his ability on HE.
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If Raf is being allowed to RP so far off from his "actual" role, then Alx's ability would seem to be fairly well useless.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
If Abbey (or whoever I target) is indeed the Merovingian, he knows that roleplaying in character is auto-death. He will of course automatically take the penalty, even if he doesn't know what the penalty is.
Well then, that would still be good, right? Penalty and all.
My issue is that he might not have to RP in any way that we could identify, see: Raf.
Now, fact is, Abbey claimed Seraph, so he's kind of pinched if that's a lie. He might not be able to RP around it if he's really "Merovingian," depending on the rules for this ability which seem somewhat vague.
Getting the remaining role-names from everyone else would be good now just for this reason though.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Now, fact is, Abbey claimed Seraph, so he's kind of pinched if that's a lie. He might not be able to RP around it if he's really "Merovingian," depending on the rules for this ability which seem somewhat vague.
According to my role PM, the mod is the sole judge as to what constitutes "proper" roleplaying. Vague indeed.
Getting the remaining role-names from everyone else would be good now just for this reason though.
I second this motion. Before we go to night, everyone should name claim, IMO.
Also, I'm not saying that having Alx target AG is a foolproof way to find concrete evidence regarding AG. At this point there are other people ahead of AG that deserve the majority of the town's attention. But that doesn't change the fact that the town needs to find out something about AG.
With my suggestion, all I'm doing is using a secondary resource (Alx's ability) to help push more info into the open. It remains yet to be seen how useful that information will be, but I feel there's no sense in letting AG slide by another day/night cycle without having something about him out in the open.
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So how many people have not nameclaimed? I'll go ahead and say that I'm the Queen of Hearts, and I swear, if I have to roleplay that, I'm going to be very upset.:mad:
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
So how many people have not nameclaimed? I'll go ahead and say that I'm the Queen of Hearts, and I swear, if I have to roleplay that, I'm going to be very upset.:mad:
Quite specifically.
ohh c'mon. It doesn't take much. Just act all dignified and British and condescending. Not difficult to pull off. Now, pulling off looking like the Queen of Hearts...I'd pay money to see that.
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This would be totally easier to explain tomorrow, dude, but I'll try. It can't really hurt now I'm vanillaized. Even if I get un-vanilla'd.
Sarah is, like, potentially Neo put back together from his RSI fragments? But until something happens to reawaken her, she's just normal so far as I know, dudes.
I totally figured that this was, like, a backup role, but it hadn't backed up anything as of yesterday. Which is kind of bogus. I actually got to thinking that it might be something to do with Smith and I already missed out.
Seriously, I probably have no choice but to go along with the "will of the town," but I'm going express an opinion/preference before it happens. And I'd like more information first. What about that, or do you think having Abbey and Raf's abilities still unknown is a significant advantage at this point, even if somehow neither one of them were scum?
:rolleyes:You’ll probably "have no choice but to go along with the will of the town", aye?
Lol.:rofl:
That's not bad.
A little too staged, the dialog a little too canned.
I suppose that the fact that several of those you call the town, in this case, are actually not town but mafia doesn't change the validity of your statement, or does it?
By surrendering, all be it with a defiantly individualistic complaint, to the "will of the town" you are relieved of full responsibility for your action.
Heck, "everyone told you to" waste your day kill ability on me, so when I turn up town you can say you hand real reservations about that.
I say go for it.
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I'm waiting for Abbey to come back and claim that it's still not in the town's best interests for him to say anything....
@Raf: how does one who had no (current) abilities even get "vanillified?" What, you got a PM saying "hey, remember how I hinted you might get an ability some day, maybe, if the right circumstances came to pass, well, now you won't."
@Hawkeye: patience, my friend. You appear to be digging your own grave fast enough as it is.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
@Raf: how does one who had no (current) abilities even get "vanillified?" What, you got a PM saying "hey, remember how I hinted you might get an ability some day, maybe, if the right circumstances came to pass, well, now you won't."
You totally love overstating things, don't you?
I didn't get told "you got fed vanilla sauce", like, no way! I suddenly felt pain, I felt like I was being destroyed from the inside out, then golden light totally came out of me-
ewwwww. Totally not like that! I'm not into that!
- then the pain stopped and I felt like, empty.
Based on what Puzzle said earlier, I guessed that that meant that fadeblue had bogusly scooped me out.
EWWW! Not like that!
I'm surprised that the Puzz-dude didn't already tell you what it feels like to be vanilla-ized.
Consider it done sweetums.
I gave you guys my rolename (which is what most people seem to be clamouring for anyways) a long time ago.
What a surprise.
Okay, this is how it works. My Day-kill is not my own, folks. This would be where the "Mentoring" comes in. I don't kill anyone, but I can teach someone else and give them a Day-kill. Right now. And they can use it immediately.
The idea behind getting consensus is simply that if I were to choose wrong, and accidentaly give this kill to a scum, they really couldn't do much about it without giving themselves away.
Looking back at Hawkeye's stuff (as much as I could without giving myself a headache) I'm simply forced to say - meh. There is not anything which is standing out as overtly scummy. There's little things, here and there, which are probably no worse than things every single player has done sometime in this game. The worst may have been his decision to vote Hvir for not picking up on his "hints" about locations, when Hawkeye himself supposedly has a role that has nothing to do with locations and had no business dropping "hints" to other players about them at all. What's believable to me is the way he interacted with DYH, and questioned his ability to change Avatar. Also, his general stubborness rings true as how he has played as town in the past.
That doesn't mean he's not scum. Certainly it doesn't. Just that I don't feel it strongly. He's probably not a bad choice, simply via process of elimination. Raf. and Abbey are still highly suspect to me, and after them, if we are still going, it gets very tricky.
But ultimately, I don't have to pick, do I?
So...who wants it?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I didn't get told "you got fed vanilla sauce", like, no way! I suddenly felt pain, I felt like I was being destroyed from the inside out, then golden light totally came out of me-
ewwwww. Totally not like that! I'm not into that!
- then the pain stopped and I felt like, empty.
Based on what Puzzle said earlier, I guessed that that meant that fadeblue had bogusly scooped me out.
EWWW! Not like that!
I'm surprised that the Puzz-dude didn't already tell you what it feels like to be vanilla-ized.
Is it me or does it seem like Raf's rping is slipping quickly from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure to The Ultimate Valley Girl? Like, ya know, so totally out there and gag me with a spoon gross...
Whew, said a bit too much there I think.
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I have a habit of posting a fake daykill in every game I'm in (as several players in this game can attest). PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME, I WANT A REAL ONE!
Is there a reason why it matters who gets it? No one's going to be especially upset if they target AG or HE7, even if it actually turns out that only one of them is scum. And no one but Spoon would target anyone but one of those two, so just pick someone.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
I have a habit of posting a fake daykill in every game I'm in (as several players in this game can attest). PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME, I WANT A REAL ONE!
Who ya gonna kill?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
@Hawkeye: patience, my friend. You appear to be digging your own grave fast enough as it is.
actually, you appear to be digging your way out of being linked to my lynch or day killing as best as you can.
So tell me, if I don't seem scummy to you, then how is it Cyan, ZDS, Grak, Vampyr, Raf, CP, Puzzle knows who else, do?
Or at least they think I an the optimum lynch or daykill target.
Some of then have spent nearly an entire game posting over and over how scummy I look and in this latest bandwagon have practically had hysterial fits trying to get people to vote for me.
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Is it me or does it seem like Raf's rping is slipping quickly from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure to The Ultimate Valley Girl? Like, ya know, so totally out there and gag me with a spoon gross...
Dude, trying to get me into trouble is totally bogus. I'm totally doing the best I can.
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Dude's roleplaying GOLLUM.
Um, Axel Foley dude, what about ZDS or Vampyr? They're the most trusty people here.
Is it a one-shot daykill, or a like ravaging-the-entire-mall-like-Genghis daykill?
I want to make Abbey to claim, and then I'll either go rouge and kill him or (if the claim is solid) go sheep and kill HE7.
The Winner!
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Axel, I'm your bodyguard, clearly I should be given the NK.
And I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be used today. Especially if it's given to Alx. He seems to be the only Cop-like role we have, and is most likely to be NKed today, IMO.
God, seriously, would you shut up about Axel being the SK. It's ridiculous. Nevermind the fact that it is woefully unlikely that an SK would have to kill his own bodyguard to win the game, or the fact that he would have to shoot at himself in order to do so. If Axel *was* the SK, then Azrael would not have had to come along and modify the shooting scene today, because Axelrod would have been able to shoot himself. Did that happen? No, it didn't. He never ran a 'I have a daykill, I can't be the SK' campaign, you are being hugely misrepresentative here. Did he explain why he can't be the SK? Sure he did, and there are multiple reasons. But I don't recall him saying 'I have a daykill, I can't be the SK'. Maybe you can point this out for us.
Besides, Axel is here stating that he can teach another person to kill, which obviously fits with the flavor I received about him, and the fact that his rolename is 'townie mentor'. What do you think he is going to do, say 'psyche, gotcha derfderf'? Obviously he's going to have to give this ability to somebody. What are you going to say next, that he's an SK that can teach other people how to kill also? Are you just going to twist everything Axel says into 'he must be the SK', no matter how absurd it sounds?
What is particularly ironic about all of this is that you roleclaimed..Sarah Edmonton? A rolename that noone can find any information on, anywhere, and you claim was a 'conglomeration' of all of Keanu Reeves roles. Except that the role that you're RPing is Ted from Bill & Teds. You are, quite literally, the last person who should be trying to call out anyone else based upon their claimed information.
If it's a daykill, the cake-sender wouldn't be able to do anything anyway. Grak claimed to have received the Cake N1, but also claimed he was still able to use his day action the next day. If it's an NK, then I'm inclined to agree w/ you. I think Axel should give me the kill now, because this somewhat forces the mafia to target me with their NK, which will keep another townie from dying tonight.
Ah, that's a good point, he probably does have to target someone at night to teach them. In that case, it should definitely be me, because no one else is guaranteed to be awake tomorrow. That way, we can get an extra kill, and all 'possibility'(I use this term as loosely as humanly possible) of Axel being the SK can be forever silenced.
Wait, what?
Please fill me in, because I didn't know that. Is this something learned because he messed up somewhere else on the site and posted in the wrong account?
Or are you guessing because of CropCircles presence on the replace list?
Conveniently enough, CC returned to the site after a long absence more or less at the same time this game started. And he's viewing this thread a lot. And he's now the only person on the replacement list. It's not mathematically proven, of course, but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who connected the dots.
Anyways, I want to wait and see if my vote shows up in the votecount.
1) it does not specficially mention that it stops multiple daykills. But the wording of it is such that I know it does. Like, immagine a night ability that made someone untargetable. You know it would stop multiple nightkills, but it doesn't explicitly say that. It just says it makes them untargetable. Now, you could read that as the mod intentionally making it stop multiple kills, thereby making it better than a standard doc. or you could look at it as there being no more than 1 kill per night and therefore it's the same. but you can't be sure which one the mod intended.
2) My role also specifically says that the person I haul off can still communicate via digital hookups and what not, so other day abilities that involve communications can still function for sure. I tried to find out if other abilities would work (both abilities that person uses and abilities targeting that person), and Az was non-comittal, but he assued me that the perosn I protect would not lose the ability to post or vote.
Also, interesting about CC. Seems like a solid theory.
3 Hawkeye-Cyan, Spoon, Abbey
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So Spoon is only at six by this count, including 3 votes from CP. We still need 2 more, and if we want CP to hammer he needs to unvote first.
It is not too late to do the day-kill thing, but I want some consensus about it and I still kind of want to hear the actual claims from Raf. and Abbey.
CP can hammer now, but hopefully people will let Axel shoot at Hawkeye first.
Seriously, I probably have no choice but to go along with the "will of the town," but I'm going express an opinion/preference before it happens. And I'd like more information first. What about that, or do you think having Abbey and Raf's abilities still unknown is a significant advantage at this point, even if somehow neither one of them were scum?
With Raf admitting to his rp'ing not being exactly his character, there's still too much unknown about him, even with his very vague and unknown name claim. He's the one that I'd most like to hear from at this point.
Also, I'm still very much for lynching Spoon rather than using the daykill on him. I can't imagine that his protection, assuming it's legit would extend to a lynch. True, it might take two lynches/day/nightkill to get rid of him, but I'd rather not see our first try fail. So I'm still in the boat of lynch Spoon and have Axel use his ability on HE.
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My issue is that he might not have to RP in any way that we could identify, see: Raf.
Now, fact is, Abbey claimed Seraph, so he's kind of pinched if that's a lie. He might not be able to RP around it if he's really "Merovingian," depending on the rules for this ability which seem somewhat vague.
Getting the remaining role-names from everyone else would be good now just for this reason though.
According to my role PM, the mod is the sole judge as to what constitutes "proper" roleplaying. Vague indeed.
I second this motion. Before we go to night, everyone should name claim, IMO.
Also, I'm not saying that having Alx target AG is a foolproof way to find concrete evidence regarding AG. At this point there are other people ahead of AG that deserve the majority of the town's attention. But that doesn't change the fact that the town needs to find out something about AG.
With my suggestion, all I'm doing is using a secondary resource (Alx's ability) to help push more info into the open. It remains yet to be seen how useful that information will be, but I feel there's no sense in letting AG slide by another day/night cycle without having something about him out in the open.
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ohh c'mon. It doesn't take much. Just act all dignified and British and condescending. Not difficult to pull off. Now, pulling off looking like the Queen of Hearts...I'd pay money to see that.
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Outside, a flash of lightning splits the sky, and a peal of thunder rumbles ominously.
...please?
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This would be totally easier to explain tomorrow, dude, but I'll try. It can't really hurt now I'm vanillaized. Even if I get un-vanilla'd.
Sarah is, like, potentially Neo put back together from his RSI fragments? But until something happens to reawaken her, she's just normal so far as I know, dudes.
I totally figured that this was, like, a backup role, but it hadn't backed up anything as of yesterday. Which is kind of bogus. I actually got to thinking that it might be something to do with Smith and I already missed out.
:rolleyes:You’ll probably "have no choice but to go along with the will of the town", aye?
Lol.:rofl:
That's not bad.
A little too staged, the dialog a little too canned.
I suppose that the fact that several of those you call the town, in this case, are actually not town but mafia doesn't change the validity of your statement, or does it?
By surrendering, all be it with a defiantly individualistic complaint, to the "will of the town" you are relieved of full responsibility for your action.
Heck, "everyone told you to" waste your day kill ability on me, so when I turn up town you can say you hand real reservations about that.
I say go for it.
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@Raf: how does one who had no (current) abilities even get "vanillified?" What, you got a PM saying "hey, remember how I hinted you might get an ability some day, maybe, if the right circumstances came to pass, well, now you won't."
@Hawkeye: patience, my friend. You appear to be digging your own grave fast enough as it is.
Consider it done sweetums.
I gave you guys my rolename (which is what most people seem to be clamouring for anyways) a long time ago.
You totally love overstating things, don't you?
I didn't get told "you got fed vanilla sauce", like, no way! I suddenly felt pain, I felt like I was being destroyed from the inside out, then golden light totally came out of me-
ewwwww. Totally not like that! I'm not into that!
- then the pain stopped and I felt like, empty.
Based on what Puzzle said earlier, I guessed that that meant that fadeblue had bogusly scooped me out.
EWWW! Not like that!
I'm surprised that the Puzz-dude didn't already tell you what it feels like to be vanilla-ized.
What a surprise.
Okay, this is how it works. My Day-kill is not my own, folks. This would be where the "Mentoring" comes in. I don't kill anyone, but I can teach someone else and give them a Day-kill. Right now. And they can use it immediately.
The idea behind getting consensus is simply that if I were to choose wrong, and accidentaly give this kill to a scum, they really couldn't do much about it without giving themselves away.
Looking back at Hawkeye's stuff (as much as I could without giving myself a headache) I'm simply forced to say - meh. There is not anything which is standing out as overtly scummy. There's little things, here and there, which are probably no worse than things every single player has done sometime in this game. The worst may have been his decision to vote Hvir for not picking up on his "hints" about locations, when Hawkeye himself supposedly has a role that has nothing to do with locations and had no business dropping "hints" to other players about them at all. What's believable to me is the way he interacted with DYH, and questioned his ability to change Avatar. Also, his general stubborness rings true as how he has played as town in the past.
That doesn't mean he's not scum. Certainly it doesn't. Just that I don't feel it strongly. He's probably not a bad choice, simply via process of elimination. Raf. and Abbey are still highly suspect to me, and after them, if we are still going, it gets very tricky.
But ultimately, I don't have to pick, do I?
So...who wants it?
Is it me or does it seem like Raf's rping is slipping quickly from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure to The Ultimate Valley Girl? Like, ya know, so totally out there and gag me with a spoon gross...
Whew, said a bit too much there I think.
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Who ya gonna kill?
actually, you appear to be digging your way out of being linked to my lynch or day killing as best as you can.
So tell me, if I don't seem scummy to you, then how is it Cyan, ZDS, Grak, Vampyr, Raf, CP, Puzzle knows who else, do?
Or at least they think I an the optimum lynch or daykill target.
Some of then have spent nearly an entire game posting over and over how scummy I look and in this latest bandwagon have practically had hysterial fits trying to get people to vote for me.
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Dude, trying to get me into trouble is totally bogus. I'm totally doing the best I can.
Dude's roleplaying GOLLUM.
Um, Axel Foley dude, what about ZDS or Vampyr? They're the most trusty people here.
Is it a one-shot daykill, or a like ravaging-the-entire-mall-like-Genghis daykill?
I want to make Abbey to claim, and then I'll either go rouge and kill him or (if the claim is solid) go sheep and kill HE7.
I would shoot HE7
Really? I was considering going blue myself, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
Also, Spoon is seriously making me thing he's none of the people he's "claimed" so far. Anyone think of any shapeshifters in the matrix universe?
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Nonono, not trying to get you in trouble. Just giving some observational comedy. I just found that last post of yours a bit amusing.
As for the Daykill, I won't beg for it. If you want to hand it to me, that's cool. If not, I say give it to Dagger.
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And I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be used today. Especially if it's given to Alx. He seems to be the only Cop-like role we have, and is most likely to be NKed today, IMO.
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Anyone else think it's totally bogus that Axel Foley ran this whole "I have a daykill, I can't be SK" campaign... and then can't actually daykill? No?
Besides, Axel is here stating that he can teach another person to kill, which obviously fits with the flavor I received about him, and the fact that his rolename is 'townie mentor'. What do you think he is going to do, say 'psyche, gotcha derfderf'? Obviously he's going to have to give this ability to somebody. What are you going to say next, that he's an SK that can teach other people how to kill also? Are you just going to twist everything Axel says into 'he must be the SK', no matter how absurd it sounds?
What is particularly ironic about all of this is that you roleclaimed..Sarah Edmonton? A rolename that noone can find any information on, anywhere, and you claim was a 'conglomeration' of all of Keanu Reeves roles. Except that the role that you're RPing is Ted from Bill & Teds. You are, quite literally, the last person who should be trying to call out anyone else based upon their claimed information.
@Puzzle:
If it's a daykill, the cake-sender wouldn't be able to do anything anyway. Grak claimed to have received the Cake N1, but also claimed he was still able to use his day action the next day. If it's an NK, then I'm inclined to agree w/ you. I think Axel should give me the kill now, because this somewhat forces the mafia to target me with their NK, which will keep another townie from dying tonight.
In fact, I thought that was the exact reason why we were discussing whether to daykill HE or Spoon first and lynch the other later.
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