Ah. . . Beautiful and picturesque Red Bank, New Jersey. Is there a more lovely place than this is the known universe? Well. . . Yeah, but Red Bank is home to each of us in some way. Now, Red Bank has fallen victim to a menace that threatens to tear the town apart. Okay, not really. . . They just want to take over the mall - and will stop at nothing to do so. Nobody really knows how many people are in what has become known as the “Mall Mafia”. (Bunch o’ savages in this town. . . Can’t even come up with a decent name.) All that is known is that the Mall Mafia’s members are among the 26 of you.
And now. . . The Rules. (Standard vault rules apply. . . Touch not, lest ye be touched.)
1. Votes: Bold your votes and unvotes please, this makes it easier for me. they should look like this Vote fadeblue. Unvote before casting a new vote. If you are unvoting, I request that you write Unvote fadeblue rather than just unvote as this makes my vote counts easier and more accurate. Any votes or unvotes not in bold will not be counted. You may Vote No Lynch, and a majority of these votes will end the day without a death. Hangings will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, his pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded.
Once the final vote has been cast, you may continue discussion in a "twilight" until I am able to transition the game state to Night. There is absolutely no talking in the thread at Night.
2. Do not quote my PMs. Breaking this rule results in an instant modkill.
3. Do not speak about this game, to anyone, outside this thread unless it is night and your role intends you to do so. You may have noticed that fadeblue was CCd on your Role PM. I will be out of the country for a couple of weeks, and he'll be watching the game for me.
4. Please do not edit or delete your posts. Violation of this rule will result in an immediate mod-kill. This is your warning.
5. Once you’re dead, you’re dead. Stop posting.
6. If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. Deadlines for actions will be short - no more than two days.
7. If you are requesting a mod prod or vote count, please BOLD your request.
9. This game will be a fast-moving game. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period (more than a weekend), please post a notice to that effect in the thread or PM me.
9. No Swearing (Nah, screw this rule.)
10. Have fun. This is a game.
11. Lastly, and most importantly, please respect me and the other players. I used to put a bit here about the small number of players I’ve had to mod-kill, but that number has been growing. Let’s not continue the trend, k?
Morning dawns on Red Bank. That means everyone gathers at Mooby's for an Egg-a-Mooby-muffin and coffee. Three of you don’t make it.
First, is Cyan. He is found in his bed with his eyes closed. He looks like he just got to bed. A trail of clothes leads to his bed. His body reeks of alcohol and other distinctive smells. By his white suit and by virtue of the horns on his head, you determine that he is Azrael (from Dogma), mafia roleblocker.
Second, you find RafaelK backstage at a “gentlemen’s establishment”. She has thousands of dollars in hundreds and looks great in her underwear -- except for the fact that the back of her head has been bludgeoned. RafaelK was Serendipity (from Dogma), townie motivator.
Finally, you go to the mall and find chamber. He is staring with blank eyes up at the ceiling. The badge on his shirt reads SHERIFF. Chamber was the Sheriff (from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back), townie cop.
It is now Day 1. With 23 players left alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
Finally, you go to the mall and find chamber. He is staring with blank eyes up at the ceiling. The badge on his shirt reads SHERIFF. Chamber was the Sheriff (from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back), townie cop.
Sigh... shades of Magic Mafia. And we lost a townie RafK, too.
I didn't even know Dogma was a Kevin Smith movie. At least we got a scumbag.
vote RandomActs. Looks like its time to continue our epic struggle!
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EBWODP: BTW, we lost Will Ferrill and Selma Hayek. We're in trouble.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Three kills seems really extreme to me. In a game of this size, we can expect four or five mafia and an SK. But I would assume the vig did not fire.
At any rate, shall we go ahead and speculate on who the killers might be? I have not seen the movies myself and so probably will not be much use. But this would also be a good time for those who have seen the movies to state so.
Also, shall we do a little analysis of this?
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Come sign up for an abnormally normal game of Mafia based on the View Askew-niverse.
So far the game doesn't seem very normal. Could he have meant abnormal normal game? I don't know but the moment I saw three kills I thought about this.
EBWODP - Crappiest movie ever. Like, worse than the dialogue in the third star wars series. Even though ben affleck made an appearance as some random guy that worsips ben affleck. Really made me want to injure myself, watching some of the horrific toilet humor in there.
in jay & s.b. strike back, the kids dissing the movie made about their life, as well as the movie producer and the guy that sold the producer his story are the main bad guys.
hmm...what was that guys name? begins with a K? Someone wikipedia it. bah.
Wow, Wuffles, that was great and stuff. Was it not made clear in recent games that subliminal claiming is pointless? Especially when it is so blatant and the content so incoherent.
But thinking about it, I think it might be a good idea. I think a movie claim can only help us. DYH has brought it up as only being a good idea in Minis but in this game I think it makes sense. Each movie has enough characters as to where we do not really need to worry about outing any power roles, and chamber is gone already anyway. It will, however, limit mafia false claims and possibly give us an easy kill with so few dead at this point. Thoughts?
Three kills seems really extreme to me. In a game of this size, we can expect four or five mafia and an SK. But I would assume the vig did not fire.
At any rate, shall we go ahead and speculate on who the killers might be? I have not seen the movies myself and so probably will not be much use. But this would also be a good time for those who have seen the movies to state so.
Also, shall we do a little analysis of this?
So far the game doesn't seem very normal. Could he have meant abnormal normal game? I don't know but the moment I saw three kills I thought about this.
Also, Vote: LJustus.
Okay, I've got info. The vig did fire, and he fired at rafk.
That's all i'm saying for now so as to quiet the speculation.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
As to the suggestion of claiming movies, I'm against because I think it'll just give the mafia a clue on how to form their false claims. They could look at the movies the town say that they have and maybe organize themselves to all claim some one movie between them, knowing that no one would counterclaim, for example.
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Well, then I'd appreciate if they'd stop Azwolging. I think I made it quite clear in Magic Mafia how I feel about vigs who can't keep it in their pants.
Sorry I'm late, somebody jammed gum in the lock on my garage. Bunch of savages in this town.
Yay for 3 NKs, apparently at least one of which was a vig, on Night 0. Obviously Cyan wasn't killed by the mafia, but I'm curious why RafK and Chamber's kill methods match. That would seem to indicate that they were killed by the same person, but somebody having 2 NK's on Night 0 is insane. Occasionally, mafias have an additional NK, but with loran saying a vig fired, I have to wonder. That will be fun, on top of everything else, to have no way to distinguish the vig and mafia kills.
I'm also against a movie claim right now. There may be lots of characters in all of the movies, but there are certain characters that fit certain roles. Did you guys notice how a Muse working as a stripper was Townie Motivator and a Sheriff was Townie Cop? The scum could use stuff like that to formulate false claims, i.e. claiming cop but from a movie other than J&SBSB. In fact, this suggestion seems bad enough to me that I will Vote SorryGuy.
Speaking of cops from that movie, Will Ferrel played Wildlife Marshall Willenholly, not Sheriff.
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"Flesh so fine, so fine to tear, to gash the skin; skin to strip, to plait, so nice to plait the strips, so nice, so red the drops that fall; blood so red, so red, so sweet; sweet screams, pretty screams, singing screams, scream your song, sing your screams…” - The Eye of the World - Robert Jordan
Okay, I've got info. The vig did fire, and he fired at rafk.
That's all i'm saying for now so as to quiet the speculation.
Man. It would be the most awesome false claim pairing ever to have an extra kill, use it, and then have two scum corroborate each others' claims that way.
Sorry I'm late, somebody jammed gum in the lock on my garage. Bunch of savages in this town.
Yay for 3 NKs, apparently at least one of which was a vig, on Night 0. Obviously Cyan wasn't killed by the mafia, but I'm curious why RafK and Chamber's kill methods match. That would seem to indicate that they were killed by the same person, but somebody having 2 NK's on Night 0 is insane. Occasionally, mafias have an additional NK, but with loran saying a vig fired, I have to wonder. That will be fun, on top of everything else, to have no way to distinguish the vig and mafia kills.
I'm also against a movie claim right now. There may be lots of characters in all of the movies, but there are certain characters that fit certain roles. Did you guys notice how a Muse working as a stripper was Townie Motivator and a Sheriff was Townie Cop? The scum could use stuff like that to formulate false claims, i.e. claiming cop but from a movie other than J&SBSB. In fact, this suggestion seems bad enough to me that I will Vote SorryGuy.
Speaking of cops from that movie, Will Ferrel played Wildlife Marshall Willenholly, not Sheriff.
Oh, right. Got those confused. My bad. That poor little monkey.
That said, I don't know why chamber's death meets the same description as RafKs. And unless we want the vig to reveal herself, i can't answer this question just yet.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Ahh, what a terrible opening. . . at least Cyan is dead + was scum. I wasn't sure I could handle another game with him. Every night in Elegant, it took a TREMENDOUS amount of effort to not vig him -_-
I'm going to say No to a movie claim until I get a better idea of what kind of train wreck is going on here - apparent vig n0, dead sherrif, excessive breadcrumbing. I took the 1,000 pages of goofing off in Elegant to be the norm here, but this is looking to be the snowballingest Day 1 ever @_@'
Are you 100% sure s/he is a female and is the vig?
Vote MMoD.
You don't need to know mr. fishy canadian..
For the record wuffles, sub claims suck. For the reason: See my first 3 posts in court mafia.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Wuffles, who said I was claiming anything? These movies are way too quotable not to throw one in every once in a while. Darn, I just realized that my first post was really close to being #36.
It would seem not everybody agrees with me about RafK and Chamber's kills looking the same. I was looking at the player list, where after both of their names it says "bludgeoned to death" since there's no description at all about what may have killed Chamber in the day scene.
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"Flesh so fine, so fine to tear, to gash the skin; skin to strip, to plait, so nice to plait the strips, so nice, so red the drops that fall; blood so red, so red, so sweet; sweet screams, pretty screams, singing screams, scream your song, sing your screams…” - The Eye of the World - Robert Jordan
1. Jobie
5. Cubus
8. RandomActs
11. mysterymeatofdoom
18. InfinityCubed
Dead:
4. Cyan -- Azrael (from Dogma), mafia roleblocker, chopped in half, Night 0
19. RafaelK -- Serendipity (from Dogma), townie motivator, bludgeoned to death, Night 0
22. chamber -- Sheriff (from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back), townie cop, bludgeoned to death, Night 0
17. SorryGuy -- Federal Wildlife Marshall Willenholly (from J&SB Strike Back), mafia cop, lynched Day 1
15. LookingforReality -- Bethany Sloan (from Dogma), townie scion, mod-killed Day 1
24. AbbeyGargoyle -- Sissy (from J&SB Strike Back), townie mason, suffocated Night 1
16. Beaker -- Hooper X (from Chasing Amy), townie one-shot, chopped in half, Night 1
13. Azrael -- Coroner (from Clerks), townie Doctor, bludgeoned to death, Night 1
10. Wuffles II -- Chewlie's Rep (from Clerks), townie commuter, lynched Day 2
26. Mosschop -- Rufus (from Dogma), townie tracker, shot Night 2
25. Alx -- Chrissy (from J&SB Strike Back), townie mason, chopped in half, Night 2
3. Machin Shin -- Justice (from J&SB Strike Back), mafia hypnotist, mod-killed, Day 3
9. IH is pain -- Bartleby (from Dogma), townie angel, mod-killed, Day 3
14. Treigit -- La Fours (from Mallrats), townie Naive Cop, lynched Day 3
21. nymphe -- Banky Edwards (from Chasing Amy), townie bodyguard, suffocated Night 3
20. arimnaes -- Jay (from Clerks), townie roleblocker, chopped in half, Night 3
23. rianalnn -- Shannon Hamilton (from Mallrats), mafia godfather, lynched, Day 4
12. Silent Prophet -- Rick Derris (from Clerks), townie nurse (promoted), blugeoned, Night 4
6. bateleur -- Angry Hockey Playing Customer (from Clerks), townie vigilante, choked, Night 4
2. Dagger -- Brent (from J&SB Strike Back), mafia doctor, chopped in half, Night 4
7. Kops -- Loki (from Dogma), serial killer, lynched, Day 5
And now. . . The Rules. (Standard vault rules apply. . . Touch not, lest ye be touched.)
1. Votes: Bold your votes and unvotes please, this makes it easier for me. they should look like this Vote fadeblue. Unvote before casting a new vote. If you are unvoting, I request that you write Unvote fadeblue rather than just unvote as this makes my vote counts easier and more accurate. Any votes or unvotes not in bold will not be counted. You may Vote No Lynch, and a majority of these votes will end the day without a death. Hangings will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, his pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded.
Once the final vote has been cast, you may continue discussion in a "twilight" until I am able to transition the game state to Night. There is absolutely no talking in the thread at Night.
2. Do not quote my PMs. Breaking this rule results in an instant modkill.
3. Do not speak about this game, to anyone, outside this thread unless it is night and your role intends you to do so. You may have noticed that fadeblue was CCd on your Role PM. I will be out of the country for a couple of weeks, and he'll be watching the game for me.
4. Please do not edit or delete your posts. Violation of this rule will result in an immediate mod-kill. This is your warning.
5. Once you’re dead, you’re dead. Stop posting.
6. If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. Deadlines for actions will be short - no more than two days.
7. If you are requesting a mod prod or vote count, please BOLD your request.
9. This game will be a fast-moving game. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period (more than a weekend), please post a notice to that effect in the thread or PM me.
9. No Swearing (Nah, screw this rule.)
10. Have fun. This is a game.
11. Lastly, and most importantly, please respect me and the other players. I used to put a bit here about the small number of players I’ve had to mod-kill, but that number has been growing. Let’s not continue the trend, k?
First, is Cyan. He is found in his bed with his eyes closed. He looks like he just got to bed. A trail of clothes leads to his bed. His body reeks of alcohol and other distinctive smells. By his white suit and by virtue of the horns on his head, you determine that he is Azrael (from Dogma), mafia roleblocker.
Second, you find RafaelK backstage at a “gentlemen’s establishment”. She has thousands of dollars in hundreds and looks great in her underwear -- except for the fact that the back of her head has been bludgeoned. RafaelK was Serendipity (from Dogma), townie motivator.
Finally, you go to the mall and find chamber. He is staring with blank eyes up at the ceiling. The badge on his shirt reads SHERIFF. Chamber was the Sheriff (from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back), townie cop.
It is now Day 1. With 23 players left alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
Vote: Sorryguy My clanmates have been scum of late. Why can't you be too? (Ok, so it was just Loran)
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I didn't even know Dogma was a Kevin Smith movie. At least we got a scumbag.
vote RandomActs. Looks like its time to continue our epic struggle!
AWESOME!
Vote Jobie.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Is this because I meta-gamed you in Hollywood?
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Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Yes, Yes it is. I bear a grudge. You must die.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Vote Cubus
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Ongoing/Completed - 0/41
Town/Mafia/SK/Survivor - 30/6/4/1
NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
Ahhh well vote loran next best choice.
Lynch all Canadians is not a good metagame plan.
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At any rate, shall we go ahead and speculate on who the killers might be? I have not seen the movies myself and so probably will not be much use. But this would also be a good time for those who have seen the movies to state so.
Also, shall we do a little analysis of this?
So far the game doesn't seem very normal. Could he have meant abnormal normal game? I don't know but the moment I saw three kills I thought about this.
Also, Vote: LJustus.
Scum yet again.
Honestly, all you bastard mods, what do you have against the guy?
He's not Canadian, is he?
Vote Arimnaes - ARRRRR.
Oh geez, I can hardly wait! Shall we bore even more people into inaction?
Random Vote: Beaker for being the last to confirm.
He is always scum so LAL.
in jay & s.b. strike back, the kids dissing the movie made about their life, as well as the movie producer and the guy that sold the producer his story are the main bad guys.
hmm...what was that guys name? begins with a K? Someone wikipedia it. bah.
But thinking about it, I think it might be a good idea. I think a movie claim can only help us. DYH has brought it up as only being a good idea in Minis but in this game I think it makes sense. Each movie has enough characters as to where we do not really need to worry about outing any power roles, and chamber is gone already anyway. It will, however, limit mafia false claims and possibly give us an easy kill with so few dead at this point. Thoughts?
From what I remember, Azrael, Bartleby, and Loki were the bad guys in that one.
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Explanation?
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But seriously, I'm opposed because I fail to see what we gain and we have no idea whether the info is useful to the scum or not.
Okay, I've got info. The vig did fire, and he fired at rafk.
That's all i'm saying for now so as to quiet the speculation.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Yay for 3 NKs, apparently at least one of which was a vig, on Night 0. Obviously Cyan wasn't killed by the mafia, but I'm curious why RafK and Chamber's kill methods match. That would seem to indicate that they were killed by the same person, but somebody having 2 NK's on Night 0 is insane. Occasionally, mafias have an additional NK, but with loran saying a vig fired, I have to wonder. That will be fun, on top of everything else, to have no way to distinguish the vig and mafia kills.
I'm also against a movie claim right now. There may be lots of characters in all of the movies, but there are certain characters that fit certain roles. Did you guys notice how a Muse working as a stripper was Townie Motivator and a Sheriff was Townie Cop? The scum could use stuff like that to formulate false claims, i.e. claiming cop but from a movie other than J&SBSB. In fact, this suggestion seems bad enough to me that I will Vote SorryGuy.
Speaking of cops from that movie, Will Ferrel played Wildlife Marshall Willenholly, not Sheriff.
I'm not in favour of a movie-claim at this time.
At least we got the cop, though.
Oh, hmm. When did we get this one:
I likey!
Vote Azrael.
Note to mod: I'd prefer not to see my name in the list of dead from now on, if it can be managed.
Man. It would be the most awesome false claim pairing ever to have an extra kill, use it, and then have two scum corroborate each others' claims that way.
I'm going to have to use that someday.
Vote Cubus
Also, yeah, MS, I do not see how they match, at all. As for the potential problems, yes, they are there, but I think are negated by possible gains.
Oh, right. Got those confused. My bad. That poor little monkey.
That said, I don't know why chamber's death meets the same description as RafKs. And unless we want the vig to reveal herself, i can't answer this question just yet.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Herself?
Are you 100% sure s/he is a female and is the vig?
So, thus far, two characters from Clerks.
It's obvious which character Dant-er, Machin Shin is claiming.
God, retard Night-zero vigs.
Forgive my irritation, but anyone firing night-0 without the intent of screwing the town over is really, really stupid.
I'm going to say No to a movie claim until I get a better idea of what kind of train wreck is going on here - apparent vig n0, dead sherrif, excessive breadcrumbing. I took the 1,000 pages of goofing off in Elegant to be the norm here, but this is looking to be the snowballingest Day 1 ever @_@'
Vote MMoD.
You don't need to know mr. fishy canadian..
For the record wuffles, sub claims suck. For the reason: See my first 3 posts in court mafia.
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I'm not actually opposed to a mass movie claim. I think it's more likely to help us than hurt, though do nothing is still most likely.
Also, I've seen every View Askew but Clerks 2. (Including the truly horrific first w/out J&SB.)
Loran, I'm fine w/ you keeping your knowledge of the Vig to yourself. As long as it's not because you are the vig. That, I think you should disclose.
Likely to be a noob player, I would think.
rawr.
It would seem not everybody agrees with me about RafK and Chamber's kills looking the same. I was looking at the player list, where after both of their names it says "bludgeoned to death" since there's no description at all about what may have killed Chamber in the day scene.