MTG Salvation

The Family: Where killing 90% of an average small town is a daily affairs.

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[The Family] did it!"

I really did create a meme of sorts with that, didn't I. We totally need an image macro to go with it

Hi guys!
After this brilliant first basic game in MTG Salvation, could I join your community?

(Even if you don't want, I don't care and come. )

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Hi guys!
After this brilliant first basic game in MTG Salvation, could I join your community?

(Even if you don't want, I don't care and come. )

Welcome! Another Frenchman...

* Dagger is wary.

The grading looks fine to me. Just remember to inform them that we have more detailed comments here about each card if they want more elaborations.

Oh, and Ced said to wait for his judgments.

Dagger, if I could trade with you in the clan game, I would.

Kinda off topic, but when a girl asks if she looks big in those pants, is that WIFOM?

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Dagger, if I could trade with you in the clan game, I would.

Noted.

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Kinda off topic, but when a girl asks if she looks big in those pants, is that WIFOM?

Try deflection.

I generally agree with the ratings, so I won't put my own up. One small point (applying to MTGS brigade and the Called) is that cards without the standard black or white borders are illegal in tournament play. I read an article about modifying cards, where a judge said that if you paint over the borders, they become illegal, so I presume the same thing would apply here.

It's a grey area, but they should probably be docked marks for having questionable legality.

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Final grading. Skander's rankings brought everybody except the Called way up, but the difference between each clan is still noticeable fortunately.

I'll be more cutthroat next time

Also sorry guys for messing up the render a bit by adding the P/T over the artist credit. I don't have MSE so I used Photshop to add the P/T to shibui's render. Clans are taking off a little bit of polish for that but we would probably lose more if there was no P/T at all and at 1:30 in the morning I wasn't going to try to more than just get the P/T on.

Are the critiques due in about 2 hours? Because I would really hate to have to post in the contest thread again, but that's what it looks like is going to end up happening.

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Damn, that explains why the P/T box is lower than normal. We got docked (once) for the flavour text slightly bleeding over into the P/T box.

Yeah unfortunately the person who made the render forgot to add the P/T for whatever reason.

EDIT: Welcome Flew!

Yes, the critiques are due in 2 hours. ZDS is slacking.

All right, got ours in.

I blame ZDS and his French time.

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All right, got ours in.

I blame ZDS and his French time.

Nice work.

Good to see our card is getting favourable reviews.

So I'm surprised I'm still in here! But now it's justified since I'm playing Mafia again

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Punishing them for using an original card frame WotC wouldn't use is a dick move quite frankly.

I suppose so.

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So I'm surprised I'm still in here! But now it's justified since I'm playing Mafia again

Thanks for submitting it Skander. It is problematic when all the deadline are like 4am European time :/

EDIT: Next challenge is up:

Group 1:
Your second challenge is:
Design a creature card. As stated, this is your avatar's signature spell.
Group 1 bonus criteria:
- Has an even converted mana cost.
- Has an ability that triggers upon entering or leaving the battlefield. (one or the other, doesn't have to be both)

I don't exactly get why a creature would be a signature spell put hey ho. I'm guessing it probably wants to be a human with a LTB trigger, to combo with our Legend.

Our card did fairly well this round.

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Mister Guy Dude [cost]
Creature — Human Something
When ~ enters the battlefield, destroy target noncreature permanent you don't control.
When ~ leaves the battlefield, return it to the battlefield under an opponent's control.
0/1

Perhaps the card is a little too obvious.

This is insane. A perfect combo with our legend. It does the job a little too well perhaps.

EDIT:
Hmm, never mind. Was forgetting it's supposed to complement our card.

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EDIT:
Hmm, never mind. Was forgetting it's supposed to complement our card.

I'm curious what you said before the edit.

Anyway, going to try to make an alternative to ZDS'.

:1mana::symb::symw:
Creature - Human Minion
When ~ leaves the battlefield, return it to it's owner's hand.
1/1
Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in.

Permanent sac outlet for our dude. Maybe it's a little too good since it's also a permanent chump blocker. Also, I hope the text fits with the rules.

EDIT: I just had the awesomest idea for flavor text :D.

I had a design idea, but it doesn't have any synergy.

It was:

When ~ enters the battlefield, put the top 3 cards of target player's library into their graveyard.

When ~ leaves the battlefield, return that player's graveyard to their hand.

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I'm curious what you said before the edit.

Anyway, going to try to make an alternative to ZDS'.

:1mana::symb::symw:
Creature - Human Minion
When ~ leaves the battlefield, return it to it's owner's hand.
1/1
Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in.

Permanent sac outlet for our dude. Maybe it's a little too good since it's also a permanent chump blocker. Also, I hope the text fits with the rules.

EDIT: I just had the awesomest idea for flavor text :D.

If we do this, then wording like "If x would put into a GY from the Battlefield, return it to its owner's hand instead" might be better. Maybe a more delayed version (like Squee, Goblin Nabob, or with an Eternal Dragon like cost) would be less borked. Or maybe so it only triggers off being sacrificed.

I think making a minion (B/ cost maybe? Makes sense that it costs less than our Legend) that interacts with the Sac ability is a good idea.
EDIT: how do you do hybrid mana symbols?

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If we do this, then wording like "If x would put into a GY from the Battlefield, return it to its owner's hand instead" might be better. Maybe a more delayed version (like Squee, Goblin Nabob, or with an Eternal Dragon like cost) would be less borked. Or maybe so it only triggers off being sacrificed.

I think making a minion (B/ cost maybe? Makes sense that it costs less than our Legend) that interacts with the Sac ability is a good idea.
EDIT: how do you do hybrid mana symbols?

: sym w b:


The problem with your wording is that I don't think it fits the bonus criteria properly.

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Umm, I'm not big on Yawgmoth's Will and Ancestral Recall combined into one card.

Haha, I guess. Maybe if it just milled one card...

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Just an idea, but:

Guy :symwb::symwb:
Creature - Human Minion
Creatures opponents control can't be regenerated.
When ~ leaves the battlefield, regenerate target creature you control.
2/2

One problem is that W does not get the first ability. But it's an idea.

This should probably be :symw::symb: then. Doesn't have an odd converted mana cost though.

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The minion is an infinite blocker and will probably be used as such first and foremost.

Murderous Rhetorician :sym2w::symb:
Creature — Human Assassin
When you sacrifice a creature, you may destroy target creature unless any player pays U or 3.
When ~ enters the battlefield, sacrifice a creature.
"Answer my arguments, or else!"
2/1

*edit* : Guy is cool.

Eh, don't like the unless clause here.

Merciless Recruiter :3mana::symw::symb:
Creature - Human Advisor
Whenever you sacrifice a non-token creature, put a 1/1 black Human Minion creature token on to the battlefield under your control.
2/2
For some reason the more they see men dying the more they want to join up.