Strong Bad, I say go for the girl. If you don't, you'll regret it. Tell her how you feel. I know you want to be good friends, but there IS such a possibility as her knowing about you caring about her but you'll remain friends. That's what happened with me and MJ.
What you describe sounds like a LOT more than just any crush. I think you're in love, buddy.
Sakura: So.. a Coffeehouse Lotto for the PCL? I like it. Does anyone else object to it?
Mamelon: I know how you feel when it comes to people you never thought you'd see again.. sometimes I see an old classmate from high school and I'm just like 'oh god please don't recognize me please don't--agh!!'
Mamelon: I know how you feel when it comes to people you never thought you'd see again.. sometimes I see an old classmate from high school and I'm just like 'oh god please don't recognize me please don't--agh!!'
I just felt awful, because they both looked so good, and I know they saw me and noticed how I'd hardly changed (at least not for the better), and was still in my little rut. Funny how I call it a "little rut" when it actually seems to be defining my life.
@PCL: I like Kraj's idea, of losing and winning points. It's brilliant! That way a lot of losses won't be such a bad thing, but it also wouldn't be bad to win.
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All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the light that you see. All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the peace that you feel. All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
But the rainbow is an image of hope for many reasons, as it is a brilliant sight coming out of oftimes dismal weather.
Trading in 50 points in cards gets you an extra pack of your choice, 100 points for a Vintage pack. Commons = 1 point, Uncommons = 2 points, Rares = 5 points. Doesn't matter what the card is. Banned cards = Quintuple (5x, so 5,10,25 pts) value on trade in, so they have a use...they become basically like Jokers.
I know you were just coming up with this off the top of your head probably but your points system doesn't add up. A single pack of random commons, uncommons, and rares only totals 24 pts of value so I'd set a legal pack at 20-25 pts since you can get any card for between 1-5 pts. Vintage can go for between 50-75.
But I love the idea that Kraj had (and that Sakura expanded upon). It'll definitely trim down the useless stuff most people have while people will still be encouraged to trade - and even better play. Good idea.
Also, interesting side question to conquer while its at topic: Since Legacy is now legal does this make Coldsnap precons playable or are they still unchoosable under the rules?
Edit: I'd go with 2 card pts for a match loss and 3 pack pts for a match win. A rare might work out to be worth 10, an uncommon worth 5-6, and a common is worth 2-3 pts. Packs can be worth 21-24 pts this way. Maybe 15-18.
And lastly - NO TANKING! Just thought I'd mention this in light of all the tanking I'm seeing in the NBA.
I know you were just coming up with this off the top of your head probably but your points system doesn't add up. A single pack of random commons, uncommons, and rares only totals 24 pts of value so I'd set a legal pack at 20-25 pts since you can get any card for between 1-5 pts. Vintage can go for between 50-75.
But I love the idea that Kraj had (and that Sakura expanded upon). It'll definitely trim down the useless stuff most people have while people will still be encouraged to trade - and even better play. Good idea.
Also, interesting side question to conquer while its at topic: Since Legacy is now legal does this make Coldsnap precons playable or are they still unchoosable under the rules?
Edit: I'd go with 2 card pts for a match loss and 3 pack pts for a match win. A rare might work out to be worth 10, an uncommon worth 5-6, and a common is worth 2-3 pts. Packs can be worth 21-24 pts this way. Maybe 15-18.
And lastly - NO TANKING! Just thought I'd mention this in light of all the tanking I'm seeing in the NBA.
You should not be able to trade an unwanted pack of cards for a new pack. That is why I chose 50 points, it amounts to two packs aprox.
I'm not to sure what everyone else is thinking, but i say if we fix this, we rebuild from the ground up.
Combine the point trade-in deal that sakura thought up, and I do believe what she said would be accurate, because otherwise it'd be too easy to cycle packs away till you get what you want. It would be just over 2 packs for a new one(from what i understood), which would work well, IMO. Also, the new way of special packs would be nice, i never exactly put up a haves/wants list, so I dunno, but that would inspire me to do so, that i would know I'm getting cards i want(even if now which ones)
I also believe, although this would require a lot of effort and stuff, that there should also, with the point value, be a community pool type thing, of cards that were cycled away, that players could "buy" by putting others into the pool, with similar point values to "purchase" new stuff. The only issue i could foresee is people competing over "buying" the same card.
Either way think we should restart once we have this all figured out, to be fair to everyone. I know, its terrible for those that worked everything out and are dominating, but from my experience, rebuilding and regrowing can be just as fun. I dunno though, maybe I'm a little too green/black for my own good
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You should not be able to trade an unwanted pack of cards for a new pack. That is why I chose 50 points, it amounts to two packs aprox.
Right, right, I understand your point - and I whole-heartedly agree with it - but I was talkin about point trade-in value. Obvious the cards you already have would need to be different value than cards you receive from the card master. So card trade-in can be like 1 pt for commons, 5 pts for rares, and 2.5 to 3 pts for uncommons. But I do get your point. 50 pts does make it a lot more even, tho I suppose. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.
Something irks me tho. I may be like completely overworried about this minor fact (typical me) but would there be any issue that such a rule as "Cards you recieve from packs and pts trade in can't be traded in for pts for a minimum of at least one week?"
Strong Bad, I say go for the girl. If you don't, you'll regret it. Tell her how you feel. I know you want to be good friends, but there IS such a possibility as her knowing about you caring about her but you'll remain friends. That's what happened with me and MJ.
What you describe sounds like a LOT more than just any crush. I think you're in love, buddy.
How am I supposed to tell her? Do I just go up to her is school and just say what I said above, or do I email her, or call her, or what? And I want to think about her feelings too. I mean, she probably loves her boyfriend very much also, so how do you think she would feel if suddenly I laid that on her? She and I both would feel horrible if she did not share those feelings for me back. I think I want to at least wait for the right opportunity to really tell her how I feel. Remember, she knows I have feelings for her, so hopefully something will happen to allow me to express to her what I said above.
Here's a compromise--we'll allow Legacy packs to be handed out. Every month, I'll pass out 3 random Legacy-legal packs from sets of my choice (probably randomly, unless I wanna see if your deck could use an Ice Age pack). In addition, you'll recieve 1 rare, 2 uncommons, and 4 commons from a list of your wants (or based solely on my opinion if you don't tell me what you want.)
We'll be following Legacy banned/restricted rules. If you get a banned card, let me know.
Looks like ill try to get all of the cards for solidarity. Just kidding hehe. Im not sure ill probably will still play my azorious deck. Ive won a couple of 30-40 men tournaments with solidarity before even though i dont really play it alot.
I'm feeling much better. Do you people think we should reset the PCL when we change the rules, or do as best we can? As much as I'll miss my Domain deck, I could easily move on to something else. (or try to recreate it.)
I have a Wikipedia entry, too. But I wonder - who made it? Maybe it was Magic Mage, or someone like that involved in the Wiki project?
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But the rainbow is an image of hope for many reasons, as it is a brilliant sight coming out of oftimes dismal weather.
I doubt I have one. I haven't been around as much as you guys. But either way, I updated my MWS, got the PLC scans and created the precons. I'm up for a game using one of the precons if anyone else wants to play.
It appears it was a priority for them to make all of the mods pages. I saw MM has a Tneill page "Under construction" and has classified it as Drama, etc.
LOL!
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I'll bet you wish you had a non-unglued/unhinged card that shared your first name.
LOL @ wiki pages. I don't have one but it seems any one with an "important title" under their name seems to have gotten one. That would seem to be WPL's, Mods, Admins, etc. I only say this because it seems Photon Eater and ethersphere have gotten one as well. Also, maybe anyone who's earned a trophy but not completely certain on that one.
Ninja Edit: Add in major banned users to that list! TFE got one too...
I don't think we need to worry too much about the power of very old cards. Many of them are only truly very powerful in conjunction with others, and the power nine and similar cards would be extremely hard to obtain - plus they would be banned/restricted anyway.
I'm surprised when people express concern that the PCL no longer feels very casual; nobody is playing heavy counters, land D, or discard.(I'm playing 4 cards that each cause a discard of one card, and I'm slowly getting rid of them because people note that they aren't fun to go against.)
I feel as if it should cost significantly more than one pack's value for trade-ins - perhaps roughly equivalent to three or four packs. Also, to prevent things from going totally crazy, perhaps only one trade-in each week; sometime before the weekly packs are handed out, announce to Ala what you are planning to trade in, and then you get an extra pack with the weeklies.
Also, we need a better system of making sure everyone gets their weekly packs. Perhaps on Saturday, Ala can edit into the first post "Owed two packs" or whatever next to each person's name. Then when he sends them out, just erase that message.
I think I might have new PCL rules up sooner or later.
The big question is, do we wanna keep what we have, or start over? I think we should at least reset the records (maybe keep the old records for prosperity.)
If we're restarting with everyone getting all new stuff, move the records into a spoiler tag and call it PCL Season 1 with the dates. If we're just changing pack rules around a little, might as well leave them be, since it's still the same league.
I'd be wary of making rules too complex with too much bookkeeping; the more opportunities for making calculation errors there are, the more we'll make. (And I'm worried, because I make more than my share of errors.)
I think I might have new PCL rules up sooner or later.
The big question is, do we wanna keep what we have, or start over? I think we should at least reset the records (maybe keep the old records for prosperity.)
this is the skewed view of a self-proclaimed necromancer, but I think we should start over, because if we're doing things differently, like different ways to do special packs. I think that it really wouldn't change much either, its like saying "lets make a new, more equal society, but hey, keep your money and power" (at least I think so)
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LOL @ wiki pages. I don't have one but it seems any one with an "important title" under their name seems to have gotten one. That would seem to be WPL's, Mods, Admins, etc. I only say this because it seems Photon Eater and ethersphere have gotten one as well. Also, maybe anyone who's earned a trophy but not completely certain on that one.
Ninja Edit: Add in major banned users to that list! TFE got one too...
Nope, not anyone show has gotten a trophy. I am not in there. Not that there is any reason for me to be other than my one FCC win. Maybe some day I will be popular enough to be there, but for now, not so much.
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Yeah, that's what I figured I should do. It will be hard, because I am very shy, but I think I will know when the opportunity comes. Thanks for the advice Alacar :).
No page for me yet...but i have no titles or anything other than leader of clan and tneil connection. I will have to add in some stuff to tneils page when it is done.
@PCL: I'm not bashful about saying that I really don't want to throw away all of the cards I've accumulated. Do we really think that's necessary? I'm just starting to get some neat stuff.
Honestly, I really wanna go in the direction of blue white tempo-control. I'm just beginning to get some cards I like for that.
Yeah, that's what I figured I should do. It will be hard, because I am very shy,
Awwww. I don't know how much it means to you, but I think you're dealing with this matter quite maturely.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the light that you see. All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the peace that you feel. All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
But the rainbow is an image of hope for many reasons, as it is a brilliant sight coming out of oftimes dismal weather.
Strong Bad, I say go for the girl. If you don't, you'll regret it. Tell her how you feel. I know you want to be good friends, but there IS such a possibility as her knowing about you caring about her but you'll remain friends. That's what happened with me and MJ.
What you describe sounds like a LOT more than just any crush. I think you're in love, buddy.
Sakura: So.. a Coffeehouse Lotto for the PCL? I like it. Does anyone else object to it?
Mamelon: I know how you feel when it comes to people you never thought you'd see again.. sometimes I see an old classmate from high school and I'm just like 'oh god please don't recognize me please don't--agh!!'
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I just felt awful, because they both looked so good, and I know they saw me and noticed how I'd hardly changed (at least not for the better), and was still in my little rut. Funny how I call it a "little rut" when it actually seems to be defining my life.
@PCL: I like Kraj's idea, of losing and winning points. It's brilliant! That way a lot of losses won't be such a bad thing, but it also wouldn't be bad to win.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the peace that you feel.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
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So.. how many losses = 1 card, and how many wins = 1 pack?
And how many cards = 1 point?
The math is gonna be interesting, considering I have like 170+ extra cards.
*Alacar hugs Mamelon tight
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I know you were just coming up with this off the top of your head probably but your points system doesn't add up. A single pack of random commons, uncommons, and rares only totals 24 pts of value so I'd set a legal pack at 20-25 pts since you can get any card for between 1-5 pts. Vintage can go for between 50-75.
But I love the idea that Kraj had (and that Sakura expanded upon). It'll definitely trim down the useless stuff most people have while people will still be encouraged to trade - and even better play. Good idea.
Also, interesting side question to conquer while its at topic: Since Legacy is now legal does this make Coldsnap precons playable or are they still unchoosable under the rules?
Edit: I'd go with 2 card pts for a match loss and 3 pack pts for a match win. A rare might work out to be worth 10, an uncommon worth 5-6, and a common is worth 2-3 pts. Packs can be worth 21-24 pts this way. Maybe 15-18.
And lastly - NO TANKING! Just thought I'd mention this in light of all the tanking I'm seeing in the NBA.
Lilly brought up a neat point--since you have unlimited basic land access for the maindeck, you could feasibly make 2 decks to play with.
Anyone else got any input on this whole 'trade in' system? And should I give out points for previous wins/losses?
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You should not be able to trade an unwanted pack of cards for a new pack. That is why I chose 50 points, it amounts to two packs aprox.
Combine the point trade-in deal that sakura thought up, and I do believe what she said would be accurate, because otherwise it'd be too easy to cycle packs away till you get what you want. It would be just over 2 packs for a new one(from what i understood), which would work well, IMO. Also, the new way of special packs would be nice, i never exactly put up a haves/wants list, so I dunno, but that would inspire me to do so, that i would know I'm getting cards i want(even if now which ones)
I also believe, although this would require a lot of effort and stuff, that there should also, with the point value, be a community pool type thing, of cards that were cycled away, that players could "buy" by putting others into the pool, with similar point values to "purchase" new stuff. The only issue i could foresee is people competing over "buying" the same card.
Either way think we should restart once we have this all figured out, to be fair to everyone. I know, its terrible for those that worked everything out and are dominating, but from my experience, rebuilding and regrowing can be just as fun. I dunno though, maybe I'm a little too green/black for my own good
Right, right, I understand your point - and I whole-heartedly agree with it - but I was talkin about point trade-in value. Obvious the cards you already have would need to be different value than cards you receive from the card master. So card trade-in can be like 1 pt for commons, 5 pts for rares, and 2.5 to 3 pts for uncommons. But I do get your point. 50 pts does make it a lot more even, tho I suppose. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.
Something irks me tho. I may be like completely overworried about this minor fact (typical me) but would there be any issue that such a rule as "Cards you recieve from packs and pts trade in can't be traded in for pts for a minimum of at least one week?"
How am I supposed to tell her? Do I just go up to her is school and just say what I said above, or do I email her, or call her, or what? And I want to think about her feelings too. I mean, she probably loves her boyfriend very much also, so how do you think she would feel if suddenly I laid that on her? She and I both would feel horrible if she did not share those feelings for me back. I think I want to at least wait for the right opportunity to really tell her how I feel. Remember, she knows I have feelings for her, so hopefully something will happen to allow me to express to her what I said above.
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Looks like ill try to get all of the cards for solidarity. Just kidding hehe. Im not sure ill probably will still play my azorious deck. Ive won a couple of 30-40 men tournaments with solidarity before even though i dont really play it alot.
Love,
Cecilia
I'm feeling much better. Do you people think we should reset the PCL when we change the rules, or do as best we can? As much as I'll miss my Domain deck, I could easily move on to something else. (or try to recreate it.)
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All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
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I know Kraj has an entry too.. does anyone else have one?
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Windmills do not work that way!
LOL!
Ninja Edit: Add in major banned users to that list! TFE got one too...
I'm surprised when people express concern that the PCL no longer feels very casual; nobody is playing heavy counters, land D, or discard.(I'm playing 4 cards that each cause a discard of one card, and I'm slowly getting rid of them because people note that they aren't fun to go against.)
I feel as if it should cost significantly more than one pack's value for trade-ins - perhaps roughly equivalent to three or four packs. Also, to prevent things from going totally crazy, perhaps only one trade-in each week; sometime before the weekly packs are handed out, announce to Ala what you are planning to trade in, and then you get an extra pack with the weeklies.
Also, we need a better system of making sure everyone gets their weekly packs. Perhaps on Saturday, Ala can edit into the first post "Owed two packs" or whatever next to each person's name. Then when he sends them out, just erase that message.
I think I might have new PCL rules up sooner or later.
The big question is, do we wanna keep what we have, or start over? I think we should at least reset the records (maybe keep the old records for prosperity.)
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I'd be wary of making rules too complex with too much bookkeeping; the more opportunities for making calculation errors there are, the more we'll make. (And I'm worried, because I make more than my share of errors.)
this is the skewed view of a self-proclaimed necromancer, but I think we should start over, because if we're doing things differently, like different ways to do special packs. I think that it really wouldn't change much either, its like saying "lets make a new, more equal society, but hey, keep your money and power" (at least I think so)
Nope, not anyone show has gotten a trophy. I am not in there. Not that there is any reason for me to be other than my one FCC win. Maybe some day I will be popular enough to be there, but for now, not so much.
Yeah, that's what I figured I should do. It will be hard, because I am very shy, but I think I will know when the opportunity comes. Thanks for the advice Alacar :).
EDIT: I agree with Lilly about PCL.
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No page for me yet...but i have no titles or anything other than leader of clan and tneil connection. I will have to add in some stuff to tneils page when it is done.
see you all soon! *hugs and blows kisses*
Love,
Cecilia
*chopped liver*
@PCL: I'm not bashful about saying that I really don't want to throw away all of the cards I've accumulated. Do we really think that's necessary? I'm just starting to get some neat stuff.
Honestly, I really wanna go in the direction of blue white tempo-control. I'm just beginning to get some cards I like for that.
Awwww. I don't know how much it means to you, but I think you're dealing with this matter quite maturely.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to be the peace that you feel.
All that I yearn for, for richer or poorer, is to fill your heart on my own.
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