10th Edition has officially killed any interest I had in Standard. Neutering MBC to push Zombie tribal when Withered Wretch, Twisted Abomination, and Korlash are the only playable Zombies in Standard? Weak.
10th Edition has officially killed any interest I had in Standard. Neutering MBC to push Zombie tribal when Withered Wretch, Twisted Abomination, and Korlash are the only playable Zombies in Standard? Weak.
Well in extended we have things like mutilate, coffers, duress, cabal theropy, braids, decree of pain, wrench mind, barter in blood, innocent blood, nantuko shade, smother, visara, haunting echos, and a whole load of good things. Standard we have bob, extirpate, and damnation, 3 whole cards. I see where your comeing from.
Well 10th is spoiled, now we have to look for the holes to plug in standard and hope lorwyn fixs them.
Damn WoTC better come out with some really good zombies in Lorwyn. I guess I expected as much from the 10th Black list, Visara for Phage would have made up for the slight to B impo. Although only a little bit mind you.
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
Got any suggestions to improve this deck? I tried Korlash, but
he is too mana intensive for this deck. The deck is meant for post 10ed rotation but i not sure what to use to replace the grid... Suggestions?
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
Got any suggestions to improve this deck? I tried Korlash, but
he is too mana intensive for this deck. The deck is meant for post 10ed rotation but i not sure what to use to replace the grid... Suggestions?
I'd sudgest ravenous rats, might be a 1/1 but his discard effect is desent. Also You might want to put the wretchs in side and try out brain pry, it's the closest we're gonna get to therapy and even when their hand is empty you can play it and name whatever for the card draw.
I'd sudgest ravenous rats, might be a 1/1 but his discard effect is desent. Also You might want to put the wretchs in side and try out brain pry, it's the closest we're gonna get to therapy and even when their hand is empty you can play it and name whatever for the card draw.
I need more creatures for my deck thought... The removal of withered wretch means less creature for haunting cry of contrition on. I tried the brain pry, but i feel that a funeral charm would work better in its place. But still, any ideas for the last 4 slots in the sidboard? Thanks for your idea:D!
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
A while back, one of you was asking about Necropotence based decks, so when I found this decklist from spring 1996, I thought I'd give you a taste of what Black used to be:
A while back, one of you was asking about Necropotence based decks, so when I found this decklist from spring 1996, I thought I'd give you a taste of what Black used to be:
Memories. Seriously if you look at it now they have stripped all of what made that playable out of the color. No mana flareing, no efficent cheap creatures, no board disruption, and lack luster hand disruption. I'm a little sad now.
A while back, one of you was asking about Necropotence based decks, so when I found this decklist from spring 1996, I thought I'd give you a taste of what Black used to be:
That was me
Boy, this deck looks sweet! It's unbelievable what they have done to black! I wish they will give us some goodies in Lorwyn.
@bhb: why are you laughing?
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It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
Hymn to Tourach brings back such fine memories of my days terrorizing people with efficient discards, then I stopped using black...hmm I think I might know why now. Well I finally figured out why I cant rebuild why I can't rebuild any of me old UB decks with the newer cards. Wow I read that thread as mono-blue, sweet dyslexia.
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
New thread please... Is the name confirmed yet at least?
Agree'd. Svogthir I think I can speak for every one when I say "name it whatever [Clan Mono-Black] we're over 500, nearing 600 (this should be #574)". Any name will do as long as you don't change the clan name.
Sorry, but I don't get the combo. I mean, sure you get to draw a lot of cards, but is that so good to risk loosing to Disenchant?
You can combo out with Soul Spike and Tendrils of Agony the same turn the Lich comes down. In Legacy and Vintage, if you draw ~20 cards, if you can’t win right then and there, something’s wrong. Admittedly, Krosan Grip is gonna be a problem game 2.
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The combo looks weird.. I mean how many permament must you sacrifice first before drawing the tons of cards? It does not seem worth it.
You don’t have to sacrifice any permanents other than Children of Korlis. I really don’t understand what you mean.
Obviously, a Lich deck is gonna be significantly less consistent than the real kings of combo (Meandeck Tendrils, Grim Long, etc.), but it's mostly for fun and for style points at the kitchen table.
You need to take damage to activate children of korlis' ability, yes? Otherwise it does nothing right? So Lich forces you to sacrifice permanant right? Thus don't you need to sacrifice alot of permanent?
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
No. Children of Korlis lets you get back life you have LOST, which includes damage taken (e.g. Consume Spirit), life payed (e.g. Yawgmoth's Bargain), and life loss (e.g. Soul Feast). When Lich comes into play, you lose all of your life. Hence, you can play Lich, lose 20 life, then sacrifice Children of Korlis and draw twenty cards.
Life loss is not damage. Damage causes life loss. You may already know this, but it's an important thing to remember.
It's still not colorless, and has no color. That's a paradox. So either you're a Zen master or an idiot, I'll assume the Zen master for sake of argument. This card will have no paradoxes because it has a clear paradox. Deep stuff man.
Well in extended we have things like mutilate, coffers, duress, cabal theropy, braids, decree of pain, wrench mind, barter in blood, innocent blood, nantuko shade, smother, visara, haunting echos, and a whole load of good things. Standard we have bob, extirpate, and damnation, 3 whole cards. I see where your comeing from.
Well 10th is spoiled, now we have to look for the holes to plug in standard and hope lorwyn fixs them.
The main problem now is that once Onslaught and odyessy(sp) rotates out of extended, there is also no more MBC left there...
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Why does every one think that happens this year? That's next year, we have 15 months of black haveing extended goodness.
Well I think 10th has distracted us enough, on to the matters at hand:
- Naming the 2nd thread.
- Black aggro/control discussion
- I guess more complaining about 10th. It's just that screwed up.
- Slivers won PT san diego
You forgot complaining about white
Slivers won? Where can I see the deck list?
Wise words:
Since orzhove is an ally of the clan we can't complain to much, but that is true.
Deck lists can be found here. It was a 2HG draft PT, the winning decks are the second on the list (Lachman/Van Lunen).
Land
18 swamp
3 ghost quarter
Creatures
4 augur of skulls
4 dark confidant
4 withered wretch
4 hypnotic spector
4 the rack
4 cry of contrition
4 smallpox
3 phyrexian totem
4 stupor
2 damnation
4 extirpate
4 defense grid
1 damnation
3 deathmark
3 last grasp
Got any suggestions to improve this deck? I tried Korlash, but
he is too mana intensive for this deck. The deck is meant for post 10ed rotation but i not sure what to use to replace the grid... Suggestions?
The only colour with a 99/99
Signature by Spongy Pengwin
UBR: Sedris
I'd sudgest ravenous rats, might be a 1/1 but his discard effect is desent. Also You might want to put the wretchs in side and try out brain pry, it's the closest we're gonna get to therapy and even when their hand is empty you can play it and name whatever for the card draw.
Sorry, but I don't get the combo. I mean, sure you get to draw a lot of cards, but is that so good to risk loosing to Disenchant?
Wise words:
Not all combos are ment to win the game.
Well any one else working the 4th? 1-9 for me. Good times.
I need more creatures for my deck thought... The removal of withered wretch means less creature for haunting cry of contrition on. I tried the brain pry, but i feel that a funeral charm would work better in its place. But still, any ideas for the last 4 slots in the sidboard? Thanks for your idea:D!
@Black dawn::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Oh yeah, are we still planning on the new thread?
The only colour with a 99/99
Signature by Spongy Pengwin
UBR: Sedris
18 Swamp
4 Order of the Ebon Hand
4 Black Knight
4 Hypnotic Specter
2 Sengir Vampire
1 Ihsan's Shade
1 Ivory Tower
2 Icy Manipulator
2 Nevinyrral's Disk
4 Dark Ritual
3 Drain Life
4 Hymn to Tourach
2 Icequake
4 Necropotence
Enjoy!
Memories. Seriously if you look at it now they have stripped all of what made that playable out of the color. No mana flareing, no efficent cheap creatures, no board disruption, and lack luster hand disruption. I'm a little sad now.
That was me
Boy, this deck looks sweet! It's unbelievable what they have done to black! I wish they will give us some goodies in Lorwyn.
@bhb: why are you laughing?
Wise words:
The only colour with a 99/99
Signature by Spongy Pengwin
UBR: Sedris
I see. ^^
Well, it's not the first time my curiousity brought me into trouble. I hope that others will experience the same real soon.
Wise words:
Control is the ultimate expression of power.
The only colour with a 99/99
Signature by Spongy Pengwin
UBR: Sedris
Agree'd. Svogthir I think I can speak for every one when I say "name it whatever [Clan Mono-Black] we're over 500, nearing 600 (this should be #574)". Any name will do as long as you don't change the clan name.
You can combo out with Soul Spike and Tendrils of Agony the same turn the Lich comes down. In Legacy and Vintage, if you draw ~20 cards, if you can’t win right then and there, something’s wrong. Admittedly, Krosan Grip is gonna be a problem game 2.
You don’t have to sacrifice any permanents other than Children of Korlis. I really don’t understand what you mean.
Obviously, a Lich deck is gonna be significantly less consistent than the real kings of combo (Meandeck Tendrils, Grim Long, etc.), but it's mostly for fun and for style points at the kitchen table.
The only colour with a 99/99
Signature by Spongy Pengwin
UBR: Sedris
Life loss is not damage. Damage causes life loss. You may already know this, but it's an important thing to remember.
The only colour with a 99/99
Signature by Spongy Pengwin
UBR: Sedris