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  • posted a message on [Deck] Death and Taxes
    Quote from Demonic Dust »
    Forgive me if this is the wrong place to post...but it does concern D&T


    Well...I contacted RK Post to do this Death & Taxes mat for me before Wacon,and he started on the plane and had it done yesterday....I am so excited about this work of art!


    Wicked!

    Medea:

    Great tournament report. Sucks about those losses.

    I have resto's, I suppose I should try them out instead of just bugging on them. I really want to go back to Linvala as well, but alas there isn't the room for that many 4 drops.

    Still on the Teeg build, but can't say that ANY current build is "the" build for this deck. Once again, the stock, meta dependent answer seems most appropriate
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Deck] Death and Taxes
    redtwister:
    Also stops Jace in Sneak and Show, often run as a 2 of.

    I really think there are 3 different ways to play this deck right now:

    1) The traditional control version with Mangara
    2) The more recent beatdown variants which employs crusader/brimaz/Resto etc
    3) The Green Splash version - under construction but seemingly positive against 2 very prominent decks, yet still great vs the field

    YOUR meta and play style determines which of the three you will play. Arguments can be made for all 3 versions.

    For those of you not sold on the green splash, my thoughts are it's roguish to the point where you would likely surprise a lot of people at a major tournament right now. No one is ready for Teeg in this deck.

    I will be testing heavily this weekend, there will be no shortage of buddies coming over as I am supplying the booze Grin




    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Deck] Death and Taxes
    Finn,

    Always respect your opinion.

    Biggest flaw with your deck IMO is that most of the creatures are x/1 There are too many -1 effects in the current meta game to run this list effectively IMO

    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on So Burn Is Actually Competitive In Legacy?
    Each of those iconic 2 drops are splashable, EotGR really isn't easily splashed. I love the card in burn, but I don't think it's going to ever reach ICON status as reds best two drop in the way the other do. I am happy it brought burn out of the cellar, b/c I think a healthy burn deck is amazing for the format, but let's no throw a ticker tape parade for the card. I like Young Pyromancer b/c of the splash factor but it's in a tough spot in the format right now. I think the card is undervalued and hope it makes noise in the future
    Posted in: Legacy (Type 1.5)
  • posted a message on How does over the internet trading work?
    Quote from Galspanic »
    Good. Honestly, in order to use the postal system to trade you need to have a little flexibility and acceptance that there are risks AND that you are responsible for managing those risks. If you are this against it based on what people said you probably don't have the mind set to trade online.


    Agree with everything Galspanic stated. It does require faith in the other party but for the most part this isn't a problem. Just trade with users with a lot of refs first to build up your own trade references.

    However, it sounds like you are a little closed off to the idea, so it's probably a good idea that you aren't attempting a trade.

    It's really not that difficult. I have been scammed for $20 ONCE and it was "my fault". I should have known better.

    Golden rule: If the trade/sale is too good to be true, IT IS!
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [Deck] Death and Taxes


    Perhaps you are, but I appreciate the sentiment (and flavor connection). Smile

    So far Teeg has been somewhere between decent and very good. I have yet to be disappointed by him hitting play, but I am also not stealing as many wins as I thought I would.

    As far as what I am taking out, in my list it has been the Mirran Crusaders. I am uncertain as to if this is correct, but I refuse to cut Mangara and Serra Avenger regularly pulls her weight.


    I am in exact agreement with you on Teeg. Not disappointed, but NOT STEALING as many wins as I thought I would either. I find this a little puzzling tbh. I cut Mangara to keep my crusaders because I generally think Crusader finishes quicker against the field. Again, we could debate this and I am not saying either way is better, I think it comes down to playstyle on that one.

    I have been stifled once in cracking a fetch (which cost me the game) as I didn't have vial and no way to get Teeg out. This is an acceptable statistic IMO since it's once in 25 matches now. 4% odds on being stifled IMO is about par in a major tournament, ie, it doesn't happen enough to really matter.

    I realize I am playing with fire with the solo forest, but so far it hasn't been an issue in terms of having double white. Keep in mind, I am running Land Tax as well. It's a lot of variables happening at the same time but it has done nothing but smooth my draws, allowing me to get away with said forest.

    Whether you run crusader/brimaz/mangara/flickerwisps/resto angel etc, double white is a must in this deck.






    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Deck] Death and Taxes
    You have to run one basic Forest if you are going to test Teeg. Allow yourself two more slots for lands which produce G/W. So either Savannah(s) and/or Horizon Canopy{s}. Personally I run all four Windswept Heath's but that is b/c I run the basic forest which the other white fetches would not be able to grab, an obvious play around wasteland scenario!

    Aven Mindcensor can blank on both GSZ and NO though, which happens to me far too often. I like that it's a flier but I don't like that it's up to luck and yet another x/1 in our deck.

    We already run 11/12 non basics, Wasteland is a real thing, but they are more likely to crunch your Karakas.

    Dies to removal is just a bad argument. Everything in our deck dies to removal, most, multiple types of removal (bolt, decay, STP, gut shot, and the list goes on and on)

    I tested moar Teeg last night against a field of decks and will post my thoughts on that later. But for now, off to walk my dog
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Deck] Death and Taxes
    Quote from Barook »

    Running Land Tax in the board eliminates many of its potential drawbacks since it can be brought in for specific match-ups/on the draw where it has the highest impact. Although I wonder if running it with only 6 basics is still worth it. The basic Forest could be problematic, too, since you cut a white source for that. 15 white sources are agreed upon for good reason.


    I agree. The reason I ran the basic forest was to protect myself from Wasteland (against other decks), because it wouldn't be realistic to only test against Elves with a mana base you wouldn't actually use in a tournament. It won't take long for the meta to discover what were doing if it catches on and becomes the way to go. The mana base is tricky. I also am leery of life loss against aggro decks like burn when we run fetches. I find with this deck I win a ton of matches with less than 5 life. Obviously if I have some life gain then the loss of life is irrelevant.



    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Deck] Death and Taxes
    I tested against Elves last night as well. My build was a little different then what I posted earlier. I still had Land Tax in my deck (as I was testing that prior to the green splash talk). I kept Land Tax in there. Don't need to repeat myself on it's merits/pitfalls. With a single Forest in there, well it really smooths out the draw now.

    Used only 1 forest, 1 savannah and 1 Horizon Canopy. Tried a 4th Karakas, didn't like it, but probably b/c I have been on 3 for quite some time now.
    I ran 4 Heath b/c playing the forest means I want options to guarrantee that I always have green. Wasteland may not be played in Elves, but it is in so many other decks.

    Thoughts on Teeg. It's a beast when you get it down early. If you Mom and Canonist follow as well you are on your way to victory. You just need to dodge Cabal Therapy and Abrupt Decay post board. This was a small sample size so YMMV.

    If Teeg didn't hit cards across many decks, I wouldn't bother, but since it does and it helps battle the best combo deck currently in Legacy, more testing is needed.



    Here is my list for reference
    DeckMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards
    4 Mother of Runes
    2 Gaddock Teeg
    4 Phyrexian Revoker
    2 Serra Avenger
    1 Spirit of the Labyrinth
    4 Stoneforge Mystic
    4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
    3 Flickerwisp
    2 Mirran Crusader

    4 Swords to Plowshares
    4 Aether Vial
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 Batterskull
    1 Umezawa's Jitte

    1 Forest
    1 Horizon Canopy
    3 Karakas
    5 Plains
    4 Rishadan Port
    1 Savannah
    4 Wasteland
    4 Windswept Heath


    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Deck] Death and Taxes
    @Barook,

    I likely will run a third Avenger. This slot is up for grabs but avenger seems strong here
    Posted in: Control
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