Hello friends - unfortunately the time has come to part ways with my (predominantly) modern collection. Have there been any forecasts regarding the overall format price of modern in the wake of Modern Horizons? Previous masters sets typically lowered prices for a period of time before the additional demand caught up and brought them back or increased them. Given there aren't any reprints in this set, will it drive demand and therefore, price?
Any advice concerning the timing of my exit from the modern format is appreciated!
A couple of weeks before the last ban announcement, I decided to take Modern more seriously and start learning Twin. I have a few decks on MTGO but nothing serious and thought it was time to put my online play to good use and learn to play a more skill intensive deck. I bought the remaining pieces I needed for Twin (not the whole deck but a pretty substantial amount of cash and trades) only to have it banned two weeks later.
During the two weeks prior to the ban announcement, the majority of my matches in the tournament practice room were against Eldrazi variants. I lost a lot of matches but didn't think much of it except that Eldrazi must be a decent budget deck and as a result, is over-represented in the MTGO meta. Turns out I was way off base in my assessment of the deck!
I'm done with Modern until WOTC sorts out the meta. The whole reason I got into this format to begin with was to build a competitive deck and play it forever but with the unofficial rotation that's going on, I've put in as much or more than I was putting into Standard.
Wondering if anyone has thoughts on Fulminator Mage? I need 3 of these for my Rock sideboard and am thinking about trading in my FutureSight foil Grove of the Burnwillows to get them. Both cards seem like good candidates for a reprint and the foil Grove is priced really high right now. I'm a bit worried that a reprint would tank the value of Fulminator Mage and the Grove is gorgeous. Any advice?
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MATCH 2 - Jund - 2-1
Game 1 - I had to mull to 5. Was never close to assemble Tron, scooped facing Liliana, Bob, and two Goyfs.
Game 2 - My side for all Jund matchups were -1 Relic, +1 Sundering Titan, +1 Ghost Quarter. Titan came down early, leaving him with no lands. Easy win from there.
Game 3 - This time he mulled to 5. For the first time in the day I saw my Wurms, and I saw all 3 of them. He pulsed them when I had two. Still able to swing for 12 and dropped the third for a concession.
Yep, that Sundering Titan was pretty brutal. Jund turned out to be a poor meta-call for the tournament and I had never played the deck before. I think the matchup is pretty good for you, if recent tournament results (including your own) are any indication. I definitely had the nuts in that first game but the other two weren't even close. Grats on the strong finish and thanks for an enjoyable match in round 2.
The last sentence didn't make much sense in the context of my former post. The shop is going to want to take a cut of the entry fees - is that unusual?
The OP wasn't talking about a store credit payout, where the winners would be spending their credit at retail prices. Obviously in that scenario, the shop can pay out 100% of the fees paid and still be making money. Not all shops sell singles, or offer credit.
OP was talking about prize packs and what percentage of entry fees should be used to supply prize packs. In discussing this we determined that the OP feels that dealer cost should be used in making these calculations, which will inflate the prize pool (so the store doesn't make any money from entry fees).
I figured you must have been looking at the prize pool from the perspective of dealer cost, which isn't really fair to the store owner. They expect to make money from their tournaments, not just from sales during the tournament. I'm not saying it's good or bad (it is what it is) but 8 or 9 people is a very small event.
What is the retail price of a pack of Theros at your store? The cheapest place in my city is $4CDN/ea, taxes included. That said, 6 packs = $24 = 75% of entry fees collected, which seems pretty reasonable to me unless you're talking packs at cost. Using your figures, Theros packs are selling for $1.77 at your store; that's good value. My LGS uses retail price when calculating prize payouts and I wouldn't have expected much more than what was given out in your case for an 8 man. Our store usually draws a few random prizes from old promos in addition to packs, though.
20+% of my local meta is composed of UWR variants and you would never resolve a Phyrexian Crusader against them. You're also up against UR decks in most metas. I think the quickfect plan is probably better.
I've taken the BUG version to FNM a couple of times (20-30 players) but can't break a 3-2 record. Many players in my area ported their UWR decks from Standard, so they make up close to 20% of the local metagame in all their variations. There's always someone playing burn as well, given that the deck is cheap to build. I played it myself for a while but ran into the same issues that Infect has. Once someone knows you're playing the deck at the FNM level, it's easy to hate you out.
Any advice concerning the timing of my exit from the modern format is appreciated!
A couple of weeks before the last ban announcement, I decided to take Modern more seriously and start learning Twin. I have a few decks on MTGO but nothing serious and thought it was time to put my online play to good use and learn to play a more skill intensive deck. I bought the remaining pieces I needed for Twin (not the whole deck but a pretty substantial amount of cash and trades) only to have it banned two weeks later.
During the two weeks prior to the ban announcement, the majority of my matches in the tournament practice room were against Eldrazi variants. I lost a lot of matches but didn't think much of it except that Eldrazi must be a decent budget deck and as a result, is over-represented in the MTGO meta. Turns out I was way off base in my assessment of the deck!
I'm done with Modern until WOTC sorts out the meta. The whole reason I got into this format to begin with was to build a competitive deck and play it forever but with the unofficial rotation that's going on, I've put in as much or more than I was putting into Standard.
Wondering if anyone has thoughts on Fulminator Mage? I need 3 of these for my Rock sideboard and am thinking about trading in my FutureSight foil Grove of the Burnwillows to get them. Both cards seem like good candidates for a reprint and the foil Grove is priced really high right now. I'm a bit worried that a reprint would tank the value of Fulminator Mage and the Grove is gorgeous. Any advice?
Yep, that Sundering Titan was pretty brutal. Jund turned out to be a poor meta-call for the tournament and I had never played the deck before. I think the matchup is pretty good for you, if recent tournament results (including your own) are any indication. I definitely had the nuts in that first game but the other two weren't even close. Grats on the strong finish and thanks for an enjoyable match in round 2.
The OP wasn't talking about a store credit payout, where the winners would be spending their credit at retail prices. Obviously in that scenario, the shop can pay out 100% of the fees paid and still be making money. Not all shops sell singles, or offer credit.
OP was talking about prize packs and what percentage of entry fees should be used to supply prize packs. In discussing this we determined that the OP feels that dealer cost should be used in making these calculations, which will inflate the prize pool (so the store doesn't make any money from entry fees).
At cost? I think this is more apt to be the exception than the rule.
I've taken the BUG version to FNM a couple of times (20-30 players) but can't break a 3-2 record. Many players in my area ported their UWR decks from Standard, so they make up close to 20% of the local metagame in all their variations. There's always someone playing burn as well, given that the deck is cheap to build. I played it myself for a while but ran into the same issues that Infect has. Once someone knows you're playing the deck at the FNM level, it's easy to hate you out.
Looks like fun to me!