I'd say Mardu is definitely best, from my experience, however, if you find any Mystic of the Hidden Way go blue, as that thing will absolutely win you games
As i figured most people are leaning towards Abzan. I myself was going to pick them, but i'm a temur/rug at heart, and i'm glad they're finally getting some love. I personally was hoping it would be a clan more similar to Riku of Two Reflections, but it still has some decent cards.
I'm just worried about fighting Abzan, just because of all the lords etc i think it's going to be the hardest opponent to beat. It's a shame Sultai didn't get much love though, as i like that color combo as well.
I myself will be going Temur, even though it's probably not as strong as say, Abzan will be. Just because i've always liked those color combinations, plus, Surrak Dragonclaw punches bears and is a 6/6 human. Pretty boss. Plus, there's Crater's Claws, Heir of the Wilds, and Savage Knuckleblade.
What will you all be rocking this midnight prerelease?
I know that it's different in a lot of occasions, but i simply can't think of a lot of different cards to compare it to, no need to be so antagonistic :3
Anyways, i see it as a decent combat trick for Jeskai, get rid of two blockers while giving +1/+1 to your guys seems nice to me. Doubt it would be super competitive though
As an additional cost to cast tormenting voice, discard a card.
Draw two cards
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Soooooo, is this the draw red needs in this standard? I think so, it's pretty good for getting rid of extra land that you have in your opening hand to make room for more threats etc. Also good filter. Reminds me of Faithless Looting but without flashback, and it also nets you one more card.
So this is pretty much what i'm looking at right now. A lot of big drops, but with Karametra, Selvala, Voyage, and the primordial i should be hitting plenty of land drops. I like Rousing of Souls and Alliance of Arms to toss out quite a bit of tokens at once. I just cut predators howl because it's good, but i feel like it doesn't fit. I was thinking of cutting Council's Judgment but it's just too good to pass up.
Well it's a very reactive list, and in my meta we really don't have much creature heavy decks, when we play a 4 man multiplayer it usually consists of 2 control players, a janky ramp deck with like 15 creatures, and then there's me, who does whatever. So i'll be making most bang out of the storyteller, which is nice. Just a funky meta.
In regards to the Primordial i totally didn't know it existed XD. I was thinking of maybe Karametra, God of Harvests, but there's not a bunch of creature spells, but i'd have to trim some of my other stuff and add in some utility creatures, i.e
But Council's Judgment is such a nice removal spell, and i Trostani's Summoner could also make a show if i'm going the karametra/primordial route, but i don't know what i'd take out. Thoughts on that?
I want to keep storyteller, just because it really fits with the theme of the deck, and i absolutely love that art(i'm a slight flavor lover, sorry).
I can cut the rites+sigil+seraph,1 storyteller, 1 predator's howl which gives me 7 free slots
so:
4 Intangible Virtue
1 Juniper order ranger
2 Armada Wurm
Seems like a decent change, though i'm not sure if without Rites of Flourishing i'll have enough of mana to consider Armada Wurm.
As for the lands i'll have to see if i can scrounge up some copies, this is all just from what i have(or that i know i have :P)
Hey everyone, i'm looking to make a, believe it or not, a fun little group hug deck. Since the release of Selvala, Explorer Returned and the Parley mechanic, i just really want to try it out and make something with it. What i'm looking at is something like this:
So it's a group hug/token swarm deck. I'd love to have Doubling Season instead of Parallel Lives, but i just don't have any copies and i can't afford em. Anyways, any thoughts? I think i could use Raise the Alarm but i don't want to cut my other group hug stuff, which is most of my spells beside Predator's Howl, and, assuming i have enough ramp(i think i do) Predator's Howl should be better, albeit i can't use it to make instant speed blockers, nor does it benefit from Sigil Captain so i don't know. Thought?
As posted in the title i have the basics, or the shell, of what i want, but now i need to fill it in. What block/format doesn't matter, neither do the cards, but i'm not spending over 10 bucks for a single card, so no Jace the Wallet-sculptor or anything. So here's the basics:
Other then that, everything else is basically fill. I'm thinking creaturewise of just having the augur and some late game finishers, i.e Grave Titan/Inferno Titan/AEtherling etc. Control suite doesn't quite matter, Anger of the Gods would be cool, but i'm not sure if i want to kill my Augur, as he's a good wall against aggro. I suppose there's always Pyroclasm Anyways, feel free to fill in what you think would be good :3
I have a WW list that runs the Pegasus. He's pretty good, but he's also an awkward first turn play. If I have other options I'll hold onto him until a couple of turns later. I really need to save up and start getting Premium boosters for the white Paragon and Hall of Triumph, but for now Selfless Cathar will have to work. I usually prefer Fiend Hunter also but the Priest is a bit more aggressive and if you have Hall or Paragon in play then it can be just as defensive as a regular Hunter.
Yea. I tried running him in my own mono white, i honestly prefer Selfless Cathar, just because at around turn 4 or 5 you can sac him to buff all your soldier/spirit tokens and other weenies. I really like the Hall of Triumph, but i find it seems to only work well in mono white, as it's on curve. I tried it in mono green/blue and i found it just competes(green wants to Cultivate, blue wants to leave mana open for Dissolve or to drop a Chasm Skulker.
And that's what I get for trying to post lists from memory at work. It was supposed to be 4 Arrest and 3 Paragon. I've now fixed that.
Pegasus is a necessary evil. I'm not a fan of Selfless Cathar but I need a one drop for the 1-drop into Raise the Alarm into Triplicate chain. While Pegasus doesn't get to attack Turn 2, it does swing in every turn after that, hits for 2, and has evasion. That's more than good enough for me.
Fair enough. I'd still recommend trying the Cathar, no evasion, but he's a bomb at around turn 4 or later. Hit's for less, and doesn't have evasion, but his sac ability more than makes up for it i find.
Fun lists so far. I'm thinking that the online meta is pretty boring though. I piloted a RWB enchant deck, two matches later was fighting the same deck, but from a different guy. Same thing with my goblins. Maybe i'm just a trend setter
I also never thought about rocking out with Hedron Crab on my own stuff, but it's a nice idea. Just food for thought as well, your Satyr Wayfinder can fetch guildgates, if you're thinking of adding them in.
To Mathochism. How are you running 4 of Paragon of New Dawns? It's only a 3 of maximum since it's uncommon. And how are you liking Loyal Pegasus? I haven't had much luck with it. But i agree, mono white is in a great position, what with Brimaz, King of Oreskos and being able to have 3 Banisher Priests. I prefer Fiend Hunter, but i'm more a defensive player so whatever. Looks like an otherwise fun list though, mono white is in a good spot. I also like mono green, what with Nylea's Disciple and Arbor Colossus etc.. It's a fun list.
Hey guys. I just got done grinding out(my gosh.. took forever) all the cards. I also have all premium cards. Therefore, i'd like to discuss with the community what all of your thoughts are on the cards we have, what you like, what you dislike, and what type of deck are you currently rocking? Is it normal? Is it premium? What would you replace if you had premium? Etc..
To start off, as always, i'm disappointed that we don't get all the cards that the AI get to use. When farming Ravnica boosters i couldn't help but get upset when the golgari guy was using Grisly Salvage etc... and i couldn't get it.
On the other hand, i understand the reasoning, as a lot of the cards would be op in multiplayer(Kiora with her foil Tropical Island >.>), alas, that's life.
Anyways, what are you all using right now online? What works good for you?
I got through most of the game using an esper control deck, then i ended up with a mono green deck, mono red goblin, and a grixis control deck.
That's currently the grixis control suite i'm using. Having a lot of success with it, really fun to play, with cheap creature removal, good draw etc. Thinking about adding in some Inspiration, but not sure. Wish this game had Blightning
I'm just worried about fighting Abzan, just because of all the lords etc i think it's going to be the hardest opponent to beat. It's a shame Sultai didn't get much love though, as i like that color combo as well.
What will you all be rocking this midnight prerelease?
Anyways, i see it as a decent combat trick for Jeskai, get rid of two blockers while giving +1/+1 to your guys seems nice to me. Doubt it would be super competitive though
1UR
Instant
Choose one or both:
- Tap target creature
- Winterflame deals 2 damage to target creature
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Reminds me of Fire // Ice but in one card and you get both for cheaper. Thoughts on it's impact in standard/limited?
1R
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast tormenting voice, discard a card.
Draw two cards
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Soooooo, is this the draw red needs in this standard? I think so, it's pretty good for getting rid of extra land that you have in your opening hand to make room for more threats etc. Also good filter. Reminds me of Faithless Looting but without flashback, and it also nets you one more card.
Thoughts?
4 Temple of Plenty
3 Temple Garden
8 Plains
6 Forest
2 Gavony Township
1 Vitu-Ghazi, the City-tree
Creatures
3 Selvala, Explorer Returned
1 Sylvan Primordial
3 Juniper Order Ranger
3 Emeria Angel
2 Heartwood Storyteller
2 Rampaging Baloths
2 Armada Wurm
2 Trostani's Summoner
2 Karametra, God of Harvests
2 Parallel Lives
4 Intangible Virtue
Spells
3 Rousing of Souls
3 Council's Judgment
2 Collective Voyage
2 Alliance of Arms
So this is pretty much what i'm looking at right now. A lot of big drops, but with Karametra, Selvala, Voyage, and the primordial i should be hitting plenty of land drops. I like Rousing of Souls and Alliance of Arms to toss out quite a bit of tokens at once. I just cut predators howl because it's good, but i feel like it doesn't fit. I was thinking of cutting Council's Judgment but it's just too good to pass up.
In regards to the Primordial i totally didn't know it existed XD. I was thinking of maybe Karametra, God of Harvests, but there's not a bunch of creature spells, but i'd have to trim some of my other stuff and add in some utility creatures, i.e
-1 to: Rousing of souls, Council's Judgment, Alliance of Arms
+2: Karametra, God of Harvests, 1 Ant Queen.
But Council's Judgment is such a nice removal spell, and i Trostani's Summoner could also make a show if i'm going the karametra/primordial route, but i don't know what i'd take out. Thoughts on that?
I can cut the rites+sigil+seraph,1 storyteller, 1 predator's howl which gives me 7 free slots
so:
4 Intangible Virtue
1 Juniper order ranger
2 Armada Wurm
Seems like a decent change, though i'm not sure if without Rites of Flourishing i'll have enough of mana to consider Armada Wurm.
As for the lands i'll have to see if i can scrounge up some copies, this is all just from what i have(or that i know i have :P)
4 Temple of Plenty
3 Temple Garden
9 Plains
8 Forest
Creatures
3 Selvala, Explorer Returned
1 Terastodon
3 Juniper Order Ranger
2 Sigil Captain
1 Seraph of the Masses
3 Emeria Angel
3 Heartwood Storyteller
1 Archangel of Strife
2 Parallel Lives
2 Rites of Flourishing
Spells
3 Rousing of Souls
3 Council's Judgment
2 Selvala's Charge
3 Predator's Howl
2 Collective Voyage
2 Alliance of Arms
So it's a group hug/token swarm deck. I'd love to have Doubling Season instead of Parallel Lives, but i just don't have any copies and i can't afford em. Anyways, any thoughts? I think i could use Raise the Alarm but i don't want to cut my other group hug stuff, which is most of my spells beside Predator's Howl, and, assuming i have enough ramp(i think i do) Predator's Howl should be better, albeit i can't use it to make instant speed blockers, nor does it benefit from Sigil Captain so i don't know. Thought?
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Creature
4 Augur of Bolas
Enchantment
2 Pyromancer Ascension
4 Think Twice
3 Izzet Charm
Sorcery
3 Blightning
2 Ral Zarek
2 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
1 Jace, Architect of Thought
Other then that, everything else is basically fill. I'm thinking creaturewise of just having the augur and some late game finishers, i.e Grave Titan/Inferno Titan/AEtherling etc. Control suite doesn't quite matter, Anger of the Gods would be cool, but i'm not sure if i want to kill my Augur, as he's a good wall against aggro. I suppose there's always Pyroclasm Anyways, feel free to fill in what you think would be good :3
I was thinking Far // Away, Polymorphist's Jest, Turn // Burn, Diabolic Edict etc could all make appearances, Mizzium Mortars and then some cheap counterspells would be cool.
Yea. I tried running him in my own mono white, i honestly prefer Selfless Cathar, just because at around turn 4 or 5 you can sac him to buff all your soldier/spirit tokens and other weenies. I really like the Hall of Triumph, but i find it seems to only work well in mono white, as it's on curve. I tried it in mono green/blue and i found it just competes(green wants to Cultivate, blue wants to leave mana open for Dissolve or to drop a Chasm Skulker.
Fair enough. I'd still recommend trying the Cathar, no evasion, but he's a bomb at around turn 4 or later. Hit's for less, and doesn't have evasion, but his sac ability more than makes up for it i find.
I also never thought about rocking out with Hedron Crab on my own stuff, but it's a nice idea. Just food for thought as well, your Satyr Wayfinder can fetch guildgates, if you're thinking of adding them in.
To Mathochism. How are you running 4 of Paragon of New Dawns? It's only a 3 of maximum since it's uncommon. And how are you liking Loyal Pegasus? I haven't had much luck with it. But i agree, mono white is in a great position, what with Brimaz, King of Oreskos and being able to have 3 Banisher Priests. I prefer Fiend Hunter, but i'm more a defensive player so whatever. Looks like an otherwise fun list though, mono white is in a good spot. I also like mono green, what with Nylea's Disciple and Arbor Colossus etc.. It's a fun list.
To start off, as always, i'm disappointed that we don't get all the cards that the AI get to use. When farming Ravnica boosters i couldn't help but get upset when the golgari guy was using Grisly Salvage etc... and i couldn't get it.
On the other hand, i understand the reasoning, as a lot of the cards would be op in multiplayer(Kiora with her foil Tropical Island >.>), alas, that's life.
Anyways, what are you all using right now online? What works good for you?
I got through most of the game using an esper control deck, then i ended up with a mono green deck, mono red goblin, and a grixis control deck.
3 Dimir Guildgate
3 Rakdos Guildgate
5 Mountain
6 Island
4 Swamp
Creatures
2 Chasm Skulker
2 Indulgent Tormentor
2 Guttersnipe
1 Stormbreath Dragon
1 Inferno Titan
1 Charmbreaker Devils
2 Goblin Electromancer
2 Elixir of Immortality
Instants
3 Shock
3 Ulcerate
3 Dissolve
4 Think Twice
2 Negate
2 Vapor Snag
2 Quicken
3 Mind Rot
That's currently the grixis control suite i'm using. Having a lot of success with it, really fun to play, with cheap creature removal, good draw etc. Thinking about adding in some Inspiration, but not sure. Wish this game had Blightning