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  • posted a message on Who Plays Mental Misstep in their Non-Blue Deck?
    Outside of Dredge and certain Storm builds I've seen Mental Misstep everywhere.that being said I wouldn't run a 4-of it outside of things like Standstill decs or pure control but as a singleton or up to 3 if everyone is running a lot of powerful 1drops makes sense.
    Posted in: Vintage (Type 1)
  • posted a message on HALP: New to Magic
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=534012
    Here a mix of starting ones, you might mix and match cards from the lists as you choose.


    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=450140
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=481560
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=527503
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=457779
    These four aren't exactly budget builds but show give you some ideas as well and goals as you play more.
    Posted in: Introduce Yourself
  • posted a message on HALP: New to Magic
    Nopee those are the colors, formats are restrictions placed on what cards eac person can use to make games more equal between players. Kitchen table isn't a format but rather a term of we're you play with your friends and everyone agrees on what's fair and what's not.
    To give you an idea here's a link to all the restriction lists for each format: https://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=judge/resources/banned
    Posted in: Introduce Yourself
  • posted a message on HALP: New to Magic
    What format are you looking at to play? While you did list some standard cards I don't want to assume anything and what makes it into a white dec in standard differs from block, kitchen table, legacy, ect ect.

    Also welcome to MTGS, once you're hooked good luck at ever stopping.
    Posted in: Introduce Yourself
  • posted a message on Next card to be unrestricted in Vintage?
    Quote from Yamikiri
    What is a "double library" and how do you turn one it? Or do you mean two Libraries, which you can't play both on the first turn, because they are lands.

    Turn one Library, turn two draw, Library, would kick too much ass. Good thing the only unrestricted version isn't worth playing.


    The only line I can think of is a green source > fastbond and the drop LoAs > black lotus or some form of 3 mana> draw 7 of some sort and then tap LoAs ASAP. As a god hand that could fun but has so many weak points before it truly gets anywhere.
    Posted in: Vintage (Type 1)
  • posted a message on Next card to be unrestricted in Vintage?
    Quote from AustinTiger
    I say strip mine.

    I just hate workshop though.


    Good god please no. I have enough trouble with wasteland of fetching basics at the right time. 8 strip effects and I might as well stop running duels all together since I don't have room in 75 for more basics over spells.
    Posted in: Vintage (Type 1)
  • posted a message on Is the hate bears deck real?
    It's a real dec and can be a lot of fun if it's in the right meta.
    Posted in: Vintage (Type 1)
  • posted a message on [[BaseSpec]] The Five Titans in Theros?
    I think we might get siblings of them but definitely not a reprint nor do I expect them to be similar. However here's to hoping I get a new tribe
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on [SCD] Serrated Arrows
    If hatebears is big in your area I might even maindeck 'em.
    Posted in: Workshop-Based Decks
  • posted a message on Do you still trade much?
    I tend to "trade" to get new kids who are unsure if they want to play/keep playing magic. It's more gifting than trading but I like seeing younger faces join the game or get into formats they otherwise couldn't. This is also why I never could work at a games store.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Re:Moxen
    Reprint with the typing of lengdary artifact rather than regular. I doubt they'll ever leave the restriction list so it doesnt matter and that way it gets around the no-reprint list.
    Posted in: Vintage (Type 1)
  • posted a message on Re:Moxen
    Rather than necroing a thread and risking it getting locked I'm making a new thread.
    So the oringal thread the OP asked why not have some of the power 9 stuff be reprinted and erratad as lengdary, and it got me wondering with the new legendary rules why not? I'm not talking about having be legal in other formats but maybe have a FtV set or Pillars of Vintage(like MM) to help people come into this format in sanctioned tournaments rather than be forever_proxies. While part of me would be angry that my cards could lose value after spending/trading so much, I'm pretty surei rather have a rise in vintage then the $$$ with nobody to play with or sell to. Anyway, would you be willing or want something like this to happen?



    (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=489375 is oringal)
    Posted in: Vintage (Type 1)
  • posted a message on Next card to be restricted: Mox opal?
    Got to do a bit of play testing the last couple of days with a friend, we both came to conclusion that it's not really that particularly powerful to the point of being restricted but is nice in storm builds mid combo. Other than that I don't see much changing unless shop's lock pieces and/or Mental Misstep get restrictions first, probably would need to be both to give storm builds other than gush / regrowth or lotus cobra the room they need to dominate the format.
    Posted in: Vintage (Type 1)
  • posted a message on Are The Power Level Differences Between Formats Overblown?
    Rather than doing a scale of 1-10 I personally rank on a 0-4 scale: 0 being will win hands down, 4 being it depends on the match-up when comparing formats. 0 goes to (no restrictions/ban list just run whatever you want, how can you lose if you go BL>Tinker>BSC swing every turn 1?) but that's the obvious one and nobody plays that way(I hope). I tend to put vintage around 1.1-1.3 as some decks can lose to other formats (dredge running into hate the extra graveyard hate some standard metas have right now) but more often than not it wins in blow-outs against other formats as they aren't really for the sheer power every 75 brings in it. Legacy sits at a 1.5-2, it can blow the smaller cardpools out of the water in most match ups but doesn't run a perfect track record that 4 MM/Drain/Bazar has. Mondern is a 2-2.7 same reasons as legacy but without the real storm/combo decks or dredge it won't tack as many games of the top vintage and legacy decks. Standard can vary from 2-4 depending on the year we're talking about: right now it's pretty strong but some of its older cardpools won't be able to win games let alone matches against the streamlined machines the non-rotating formats have. Old extended I'd put more powerful than mondern but it's current shambles I don't even think would be in the 3.X range as I can't tell it apart from standard anymore. The causal formats I tend to avoid including since they don't play the same "game" as FNM formats do, the cardpool+play or fun not necessaryily wins means they're all over the place.

    But even compaired formats, everything goes out the window if the players arent on the same skill level. I'd put my money on the better player more often than the deck because sloppy plays can be back-breaking. Tinkering away a lock-piece for a BL to cast a metamorph to copy a mana dork player would probably lose to a guy who plays GPs/PTQs on a regular basis even if he's running sealed.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Next card to be restricted: Mox opal?
    I personally don't think it's going to make a huge splash with its buff but the potential is there. I'm not sure what deck will be able to reliably pull off faster wins with it considering workshops don't care for it and storm is still craving bigger boons than what it would be providing in lue of other stuff. If it does happen I'll be interested in what build does it but I won't be surprised if it doesn't.
    Posted in: Vintage (Type 1)
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