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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Wow, apparently my post from earlier has COMPLETELY VANISHED. I was about to snapvote tom for voting the claimed Vig.

    Anyway, I shot Grapefruit. Oops. On the upside, this means scum missed their kill. Yay.
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    Hey guys, I'm out of town for a few days without laptop. Deadline is suspended until I get back!
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    Prophylaxis, Mindreaver, Silvercrys3467, Vaimes, Cantripmancer, osieorb18

    Yes (2): osieorb18, Mindreaver
    No (6): AtheistGod, Brinatoo, shadowlancerx, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Prophylaxis, Rhand

    The proposed quest has not been accepted.

    It is now Brinatoo's turn to propose a Questing party. He has 6 days to do so.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Thanks, hopefully so, this time. Good playing with you.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Haha, I've had a pretty bad streak, lately. Losing my job (again), was on the way to an interview for another one, and then boom.

    I appreciate the concern. No injuries, minor damage - just not money I want to be spending at this point with the whole "moving into a house this weekend" thing and just overall inconvenient.
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    Prophylaxis, Mindreaver, Silvercrys3467, Vaimes, Cantripmancer, osieorb18

    Yes (2): osieorb18, Mindreaver
    No (3): AtheistGod, Brinatoo, shadowlancerx

    6 is majority.


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    Deadline expires in approximately 31 hours.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Quote from Rhand »
    Well done Smile
    with Iso snapvoting me in lylo, I was sure he was scum, ergo sure that my vote was safe.

    I actually came online now to unvote because I just realised that the fact that Cantrip kept forgetting that shadow was "confirmed town" must mean that Cantrip was scum with shadow.
    It took me this long to realise that simply because it took me this long to realize shadow wasn't town at all.

    @Iso: when are we ever going to learn to stop scumreading each other when we're both town?


    Well I think I thought you were town early on because our views of the game lined up but then you kept pushing the "Iso=scum" agenda and I thought I was pretty transparently town so it made me think you weren't. :p And you're the one that convinced me that shadow was confirmed town to begin with, despite my instincts screaming at me to lynch him after fonti flipped town prior to the last Night. I actually thought she was town based on her content but shadow being scum seemed inconceivable with your mechanical argument so I didn't pull out because I didn't think I could salvage people not wanting to lynch her off of scarbo's utter lack of anything related to playing the game, and because on the chance she was scum, I didn't want her Roleblock to interfere with the Vig shot going off.

    Quote from Cantripmancer »
    it's mostly dumb luck that Shadow and I were online at the same time before Rhand and Iso unvoted.


    Yeah, I got in a car accident this morning, and actually came to check the thread after I got home.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    Quote from Iso »
    Meh.

    I think most of my suspicion of Cantrip stemmed from his interactions with Ghosting, but then Ghosting flipped town and I reconsidered.

    I didn't play very well this game. I was demoralized the whole time, as I explained in Neighbor chat to shadow last Night.

    Sorry, guys. I couldn't pull it together at the end.

    Also, Ghosting, never do that again.
    sorry for playing to your emotions last night.


    It's a game. Shrugs

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    @Cantrip: shadow spilled the beans above. Sorry I was unpleasant to play with this time around; it was a bad time for me to join a Mafia game but I didn't want to see yet another game go under due to inactivity/lack of replacements. If you still wanted to talk about things, that's fine.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    I'm not going to fight an Ophidia lynch, but I can't put my vote behind it because I said I would vote X=Y until the end of the Day and I'm a man of my word! That said, consider me on the wagon in spirit.

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    @Delphi: That...doesn't really address my issue, here. Slant

    Quote from Vaimes »
    This is roughly what the game looks like for me:

    Iso - 1 (xequalsy)
    Pozzai - 1 (Regfan)
    Regfan - 2 (Nachomamma8, Pozzai)
    Vaimes - 1 (Ophidia)
    xequalsy - 6 (Iso, DelphiBlue, Newcomb, tomsloger, Vaimes, Grapefruit21) (L-2)

    Not Voting - 1 (DV)


    No, Iso, I'm not going to color you in blue just yet.


    Don't worry. You will, soon enough. Kekeke

    Quote from D_V »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from D_V »
    Somebody some up the xequalsy case for me.

    It's a lot of hand wringing and going through the motions of solving. I think I've seen the words "robotic" and "lifeless" bandied about.

    I'm really disappointed your first post wasn't a hammer.

    If it was Iso mang.

    Woulda snapped.


    You're lucky I'm lazy or I'd case you just to be vindictive.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    What happened to the N1 kill?
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Meh.

    I think most of my suspicion of Cantrip stemmed from his interactions with Ghosting, but then Ghosting flipped town and I reconsidered.

    I didn't play very well this game. I was demoralized the whole time, as I explained in Neighbor chat to shadow last Night.

    Sorry, guys. I couldn't pull it together at the end.

    Also, Ghosting, never do that again.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Yeah, I was actually about to lynch Cantrip over Rhand - but then I got hammered, sooo.

    Thanks, Rhand!
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    God dammit.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Hunt, if I'm wrong and you're town, you seriously need to not vote me toDay. I'm about to read over your post where you think Cantrip is mechanically confirmed scum and see what I think about it.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Quote from Huntzilla »
    Do you think he ate a shot N1? Even though no killing role claimed it?
    Why can't he just be a goon?
    Why wouldn't an ascetic or untargetable type role make more sense? I realize he can't be because I targeted him, just wondering.


    * Don't know, since we don't know who D_V shot Night 1. Does it matter?
    * Because where did Mete0r's vig shot go last night?
    * Because Ascetics don't stop bullets and you targeted him. Duh?

    Quote from Rhand »
    Right... kill meteor and act as if he shot me? Nice try Iso, but meteor said he wasn't shooting anyone if fulcrum flipped town.
    I'm with Hunt. I'm think that Shadow would be long dead by now if he were town.
    I'm more convinced on Iso than on Shadow tho, so

    vote Iso


    rofl

    Except you slipped that you knew that scumchat would be blocked when somebody was Jailed, which shadow told me last Night.

    Quote from Rhand »
    You're missing something Hunt: Shadow's action is a Day action. I'm pretty sure he's free to kill at Night if he's scum.


    Pushing the Iso/shadow narrative makes no sense. This is flailing. You're going for every possible angle you can not to lynch your buddy, here.

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    @Cantrip: Some small aspects of his role as well as his struggle to read me last Night seemed very genuine.

    Also, if Rhand were town, he would have been speedlynched by the remaining two scum by now. Kekeke Just sayin'; that should be enough to see him lynched now.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Hi Delphi!

    I think I've given you enough space after making you sad, so let's talk.

    I'm concerned that you're scum trying to pocket me by agreeing with me on at least the X=Y stuff. I don't disagree with your points on him, but he's also made it really easy to lynch him toDay. If you could please assuage my concerns about you agreeing with me because you're scum rather than because you're good at catching scum early, please feel free to do so, as I'd be most appreciative.

    Nothing personal, you understand. I'm just the paranoid type.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    *confirmed
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    I had a very candid conversation with shadow last Night that leads me to believe he's town.

    Theory: We know Hunt's role. It's at least been cofirmed by Anak.

    Mete0r stated he'd be shooting between Hunt and Rhand.

    The town had a Jailer, Roleblocker, and Vig. There was a Hitman.

    I think Rhand is scum Bulletproof.

    Vote Rhand
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Good luck, Typh.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    *scum trying to look like they have something to say, rather
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    @tom:

    With regards to #224:

    Part of my read on X=Y here stemmed from the way he approached my opening post. Literally everyone else ignored it, and his response was basically, "Plan on providing any content, CC? /loran" I made the post to see if anybody called me out on not saying anything, and from my general experience, I find that the people that tend to do that are more often scum looking like they have something to say than not.

    With regards to #226:

    X=Y specifically asked about two people that were not him that I listed as scum, which felt like he wanted me to elaborate on the other two reads, as well, but like he was too afraid of looking self-conscious to actually ask about my read on him. He manages to discredit said reads in the same breath. He also brings up Ophidia out of the blue and hard-defends him, there, for things that are more likely to come from scum than town but pretending that isn't the case. Additionally, he refers to Typhrous's actions as "interesting", and his vote on me was absolute garbage - of all the people he can think to vote at that point, he chooses to vote me to explain my reads, rather than asking me and voting for scum? Did he think he was going to be pressuring me? How does that make sense for a vote, contextually? One thing I notice scum often do is vote for things that they shouldn't be voting for. It's actually one of Void's biggest scumtells - he'll ask a question or say something that looks like he's scumhunting but then he'll vote off of it and it will completely have the wrong tone for the situation. That's exactly what X=Y's vote felt like, here. (And if we wanna get really anal about it, it's also a vote that lacks fire, as he votes me, tells me to explain my reads...and then tacks on a "please".)

    Hopefully that answers your questions.
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    67 hours to deadline.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    @Grapefruit: I don't even remember if you made me upset but you probably didn't and even if you did it obviously didn't leave much of an impression on me! So, no worries - I'm also just playing the game.

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    @tom: Okay, so which is it? Are you the Iso meta expert or aren't you? With regards to autopilotIso, I was on autopilot for the first part of Murders in Townville. I've been a successful townie so far in this game because I'm about to lynch scum. With regards to Pozzai, he had a fairly distinct personality in video Mafia and once I was reminded of where I knew him from, it all came back to me.

    If Day is still open tonight after work, I'll get to #224 and #226 for you.

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    @Nacho: I don't remember specifically anything Typhrous has said, but I remember his early posting being more important that his "lolz brb guise" (obviously).

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    @Vaimes: RE: #547: Someone gets it!

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    @X=Y: If you're wrong about both Delphi and myself, who's scum?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from tomsloger »
    I'd actually much rather lynch Iso than xequalsy right now. I think he's a viable-likely partner for everyone I'm scumreading and is just not playing like the Iso I know. He is absolutely refusing to give any reasoning at all on Pozzai or xequalsy, and is pushing a narrative about himself right now that has no grounding in reality.


    I don't think we're playing the same game.

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    @Grapefruit: Yes, I caught X=Y early and yes, his push on me was ***** and he looked ***** for it. I commented on posts of his that I did not like without specifically stating why I did not like those posts because I wanted people to start paying attention to him (as I stated to Newcomb), and lo and behold, people started looking at X=Y. Maybe I'm just a psychic, but I pointed out that people should take note of him and everyone else did the heavy lifting for me. That's how the wagon played out, and I'm not getting any credit for it because that's how it played out. Do you disagree? If so, please explain the sheer quantity of people who are *****ting on my contribution to the X=Y wagon and not acknowledging that it clears me. Thanks!

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    @Regfan: I appreciate your willingness to work with me while I'm being a stubborn ****er but I haven't seen any compelling points against Pozzai. Every bit of posting I've seen of his reads off-the-cuff initial reactions to posts that don't necessarily have a lot of forethought or guile behind them. If people think Pozzai is scum for that, does that mean his town game is typically extremely analytical and less visceral? The extent of my experience with Pozzai is over video Mafia and I found him fairly easy to read there, and I have no reason to believe that him posting in his current capacity/style would be any more difficult for me to pick up scum vibes from. I think part of the problem is that Pozzai is struggling to find a player on his wavelength in this game and I think that if he finds said player and interacts with them in realtime, it will become apparent that Pozzai is trying to solve the game. If you ask me to point to any specific posts that make me feel this way, I would not be able to. My Mafia play has two stages: Autopilot and Doom Cannon. Sometimes I start the game in Doom Cannon and give it 150% and shank all of the scum on Day 1. Those are the games when I shine, and they typically involve me getting my way with most of the lynches. The way I catch scum is, to put it simply, interactively. I generate possible scumteams based on interactions, vote analysis, and my own crusades against people. I don't always share my thoughts, because rarely do they align with that of my compatriots. This is why I prefer the Socratic method - because a lot of my theories are 3 levels of paranoia and left-field-crazy deep, I'm saved the effort of smashing my face repeatedly into brick walls to turn them into candy...or some bizarre metaphor to that effect. I don't like engaging with people outside of my own personal agenda for how I plan to solve and win the game, I don't like repeating myself, and I don't like interfering with my own scumhunting by performing a paradigm shift too early. When I'm in autopilot, I very much go off of the way a person's posts make me feel initially with very little close reading involved in said feeling creation unless I see something I want elaborated upon. I also pay attention (for the most part) to use of my name because at least acknowledging that people are talking to you is polite, even if you don't necessarily do so in the way that they want you to. Anyway, all of this is about 80% of why I'm still in auto-pilot - because I need to see X=Y's flip in order to eliminate team possibilities and narrow it down to the correct "electron cloud". Does that make sense to you? I guess the easiest way to summarize it is to say that my reads are all gut until I choose to substantiate them further, but doing this too early is dangerous for me because there's less of a chance of me being able to perform a proper paradigm shift and instead regressing into tunneling. My best chance of learning more about the gamestate is when we have more information, and that's why an X=Y lynch is so important to me toDay - because if we lynch Pozzai on Day 1, I don't learn anything (it really seems like I'm the only person NOT interested in lynching Pozzai, so what exactly would we learn from his wagon?) and I put it at about 85% that Pozzai flipa town, which means we're almost certainly going to lynch X=Y on Day 2 for being the counterwagon to our flipped town, and to be perfectly frank, I love being right and rubbing it in everyone's faces - and these are all reasons Pozzai is a terrible lynch for toDay. With scumX=Y flipping, we have the game basically solved (or at least I do, and in this current situation, that's what matters). With Pozzai flipping - even if he is scum - we get nothing.

    tom is 100% aware of all of this with regards to the way I play Mafia seeing as I talk about it often enough (and Newcomb SHOULD be, having played in the Invitational, but according to tom, he doesn't learn these sorts of things terribly well?) and that is why I will see tom dead if he continues to prompt me to be a less effective Mafia player.

    So, hopefully that clears everything up for everyone, and we can progress with the game.

    Good talk.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Because I'd actually be putting effort into the push if I were scum instead of just letting it happen and letting other people take credit for the heavy lifting.

    Doing what I'm doing as scum is strictly -EV, especially if X=Y is my buddy.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    @Regfan: If by "[your] question" you're referring to my reasons for townreading Pozzai, you know that's not going to happen toDay.

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    @Newcomb: Why are you ignoring the fact that scumX=Y confirms me as town?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    @Regfan: I guess the important question here is, do you think Pozzai can be scum with X=Y? Why or why not? What about Ophidia + X=Y?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from Ophidia »
    @Iso: "If anything, X=Y flipping scum should see me as locktown for the remainder of the game."

    Can you explain the reason behind this?


    Sure. I caught X=Y early, I pushed on him, he tried to push back a little, I didn't budge, and he folded like a house of cards. The wind is completely out of his sails. He got busted early and is totally demotivated from it, much in the way Cyan felt hopeless in the 2016 Invitational when his team got reamed on Page 1. Unless someone wants to step up for X=Y and explain to me that he's just a terrible Mafia player, especially as town, there's absolutely no reason for anybody not to be scumreading him at this juncture. The signs are all there that he got caught and doesn't know what to do about it.

    Quote from DelphiBlue »
    Quote from Pozzai »


    @DelphiBlue why would you consider my readlist to have an impact in your read on me, considering our previous experiences?


    This is a mini and it's not multiball, duh. Consider yourself on thin ice for continuing to ask bad questions.

    Quote from Iso »
    X=Y getting lynched is totally meaningful because I can not reconsider the gamestate until he is dead.

    Same here.


    My hero.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from Newcomb »
    Man it's gonna be hilarious when xequalsy flips wolf and that tells us exactly nothing about Iso's alignment.

    Oh wait, did I say hilarious? I meant awful.


    If anything, X=Y flipping scum should see me as locktown for the remainder of the game.

    Quote from Regfan »
    @Iso - I could say the same thing about a Pozzai flip providing information and changing the gamestate as well? If you don't want to re-read what you town read about him earlier at least comment on his more recent posting; I don't find his interaction with myself and questioning to come across as him trying to gamesolve at all.


    Well, no, because if Pozzai flips town, that tells me literally nothing about the gamestate I didn't already suspect AND I'm still going to want to lynch X=Y because I won't have been able to reconsider the gamestate without him dead. All you're doing is wasting a Day and one of our mislynches, here, if Pozzai is town.

    Quote from Newcomb »
    Quote from Regfan »

    @Newcomb - Can you run me through exactly where you're at with Ophidia/Nacho/Iso (Don't need hugely detailed sections on each, just a quick summary) since I'd say they're my more iffy reads that we're not gone into as much detail about.
    Iso I've got nothing on. He fits on literally any scumteam, and he's not backing up his reads with analysis, so at this point he's an almost inevitable PoE lynch. I'll grant Nacho the "oh wait it's a basic, not 4 scum" thing is prooooobably a little cheesy to fake as a wolf here, but.


    Are you just...not thinking critically about my play in this game? I mean, I guess it's adorable that you think I'll ever be lynched, here, but okay.

    Quote from Newcomb »
    Hnnnnnnnnnn.

    I'm going to pull one from the old WH12 playbook.

    @all (except Pozzai and Reg)

    A) Pozzai town, Regfan town
    B) Pozzai wolf, Regfan town
    C) Pozzai town, Regfan wolf
    D) Pozzai wolf, Regfan wolf

    Please assign a % chance to each option. Extra credit: show your work.


    A. 80%
    B. 10%
    C. 5%
    D. 5%
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    @shadow: I'd really like it if you Jailed Hunt toNight and Mete0r Vigged Rhand regardless of what fonti flips.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    X=Y getting lynched is totally meaningful because I can not reconsider the gamestate until he is dead.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    I'm not okay with you not confirming your ability in the off chance that fonti flips town; we really, really need that confirmation.
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    Pass: 4
    Fail: 1

    Quest 3 has failed.

    2 Quests have failed. Tread carefully, Knights of Camelot!

    It is now Quest 4's party selection phase.

    It is D_V's turn to propose a questing party.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    @Ophidia: No, as that requires re-reading. If you're uncertain, please refer to any posts that you or X=Y that may have pertained to each other shortly before I made that post.

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    I agree with Regfan's analysis RE: Ophidia in #404 (post not found). That said, Regfan, the way I read that X=Y post (#425) was that he was saying I was only wrong about my reconsidered Vaimes read since I hadn't budged on my read on him.

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    @Nacho: I mostly find it odd that Ophidia would automatically assume it was an interaction with X=Y that I didn't like. Doesn't that suggest hyperawareness of how he's interacted with X=Y through the game, as well as the fact that it highlights he hasn't really interacted with him?

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    @Grapefruit21: How familiar are you with my meta?

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    @tom: I'm interested in your X=Y/Typhrous pairing. Tell me more about that, if you don't mind. And yes, that's another reason my vote is permaparked on X=Y RE: #419.

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    @Pozzai: I re-read when I need a paradigm shift or the situation calls for it.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    So yeah, if any of those three are scum, we lose - but I'm willing to let the game ride on the chance that they're not.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    If Cantrip is scum, I accept that he outplayed us, or at least knew how to spin me towards his favor, which appears to have been good enough for this purpose. If Mete0r is scum, your Vig gambit was good and it was definitely the game-winning play, here. I could see a Mete0r/Rhand team based on that, alone. If shadow is scum, I don't know what the **** happened on Night 1 and I'll be mad about it for sure because it means a townie lied about something.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    @Mete0r: fonti has to be the lynch so that we circumvent any situations where she is scum and Roleblocks you.

    When she flips scum, I should be reasonably clear by that point, but I'll eat a Vig for the team if I need to.

    IF she flips town, I accept that I got duped by Hunt, Rhand, and Cantrip.

    I think that Rhand and then Hunt should be your Vig priorities in that order with a scumfonti flip. And if I somehow die overNight, do not let Huntzilla go without lynch on Day 5 after we see fonti/Iso/Rhand dead.

    Unless Cantrip is scum, this plan wins us the game.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    @Tom: You're doing it in voting me. And no, notrly.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    For the record, I'm not willing to be Vigged because I'm town - I'm willing to be Vigged because I haven't been enjoying myself.

    Don't any of you dare go using my unwillingness to be Vigged in future games as an indicator that I'm scum or I will see you lynched for it.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Shrugs

    I'm town and you full well know it.

    Kitty came into our mentor chat asking what a "Reaper" does and Brinatoo clarified that she was VT.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Woah there, I'm scumreading X=Y for reasons outside of PoE, TYVM.
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    posted a message on Group 'Make a Deck' V
    Unauthorized necro. Lock
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from DelphiBlue »
    If it wasn't clear, I think he's probably town being pushed on awkwardly by scum!X=Y.

    He just made me sad >:


    *Patpat* Don't mind me, I'm just a crabby Mafia veteran. Geezer

    If it wasn't clear, Nacho's "delightful" personality shines through far more when he's town. He's clearly enjoying himself and he has an incredibly hard time faking that as scum.

    Does that make sense?

    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Iso »
    I don't like that tom is pretending he hasn't played Mafia with me, before.

    How so?

    And why do you keep responding to the least important part of things?


    You're pretending you don't know the way I play Mafia and I think you're looking for easy pushes. You know full well that my playstyle is extremely offputting, especially to people that have either never played with me or have not done so in a long time. Therefore, because I'm stubborn and lazy, it's extremely easy to dredge up anti-Iso sentiments in any game where that is a fair chunk of the playerbase.

    Aside from not actually talking to X=Y or elaborating on my Pozzai read, please advise me on what you feel I haven't sufficiently addressed.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    I still insist that there is no case against me.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Quote from Rhand »
    Quote from Iso »
    Yes, please Vig me toNight and put me out of my misery.

    My only qualm with the plan is that I think Rhand has a strong chance of being the 4th scum, at this point. I don't think scumCantrip would cede to frustratedIso, and would be willing to still push that lynch prior to the Vig reveal. That means that Rhand is infinitely more likely to be the 4th scum than Cantrip at this point.

    So, lynch fonti, Vig me, Jail Hunt, see what happens. But in an endgame scenario where Rhand is alive, please lynch him. That said, based on role analysis, I think Hunt is a better lynch than Rhand at this point.

    This feels wrong. You don't mention at all that vigging you if Fulcrum flips town would make us lose. Which in your town!view we should?


    ...because I literally said "I don't see a universe in which fonti can reasonably flip scum"? Or did it not fit your agenda to read that post?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Doesn't matter to me as long as he gets lynched, then!
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    I don't like that tom is pretending he hasn't played Mafia with me, before.
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    Quest 3 Proposal: Vaimes, Rhand, Mindreaver, Prophylaxis, Silvercrys3467

    Yes (6): Prophylaxis, D_V, Rhand, Silvercrys3467, Vaimes, Mindreaver


    Quest 3's party proposal has passed.

    Vaimes, Rhand, Mindreaver, Prophylaxis, Silvercrys3467 - you know the drill.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Vote fulcrum
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    At this point, your opinion doesn't count for much. :p
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Iso »

    @tom: Hi! I asked you a question. Also, please reconcile "The impression I get from Iso is competence" with "I didn't say he was doing a very good job of it." Thanks!

    The line was "My strongest impression of town Iso is competence." The word town is pretty important there. I've never seen you play particularly well as mafia.

    Your question for me was why were those two posts I quoted in #351 contradictory. Showing, of course, your guilty conscience because all I did was quote two posts and vote. But I digress.

    The first time you townread Pozzai but forgot why. The second, you implied you had reasons but weren't sharing them. I am almost entirely certain at this point you have no read on Pozzai, and have pretended to twice. And they aren't even internally consistent.


    Or instead of a guilty conscience like you're suggesting, I read between the lines like good Mafia players do and gleaned that you felt my statements were contradictory. Golly, it's almost as though I've played Mafia before! What are the odds of that? Stupid

    Quote from Newcomb »
    Quote from Iso »
    When somebody posts something and I respond to it with a vote, I fully expect people to go, "Huh, wonder what Iso sees?" and mull over that person's posts.

    Look at the playerlist.

    Then look back at yourself.

    Then look at the playerlist again.

    Back at yourself.



    That is to say, this isn't really that kind of game.

    Are you familiar with the phrase, "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad then Muhammad must go to the mountain"?


    Nope.
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    posted a message on Basilisk Deck Idea
    Unauthorized necro. Lock
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from xequalsy »
    Quote from Iso »
    Hey, xequalsy: Why do you think I was "clearly wrong once"? Vaimes hasn't flipped. Do you expdct me to believe that you've grokked a better understanding of the gamestate than I have at this point when you've pressured absolutely nobody and the best vote you could come up with is on me?


    Well I'm town so you're still wrong. It doesn't matter if Vaimes has flipped or not, you were "pretty sure" that the scum team was Grapefruit/me/Vaimes and now you're more Grapefruit/me/Ophidia. You're wrong for one of the teams.

    And yes, since your basic premise of the game so far has been - xequalsy is 100% scum and I'm not moving off him for the rest of the day. So I by default have a better understand of the gamestate since I'm in the position of being the main wagon at the moment knowing the fact that I'm town.

    The vote on you was a prod to see what you'd post. Yes, there probably could have been other people I found suspicious at the time I could have voted - but I didn't choose to use my vote that way. Currently, the vote is staying for your vote on me.


    Can somebody explain to me how this guy hasn't been lynched, yet?

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    @Newcomb: I'm sure you've no doubt picked up on the fact that I enjoy being cryptic to compel people to think about what I'm seeing. It's really just a lot easier to figure out both where I'm coming from and to develop scum reads that match my own (and realistically, who doesn't want that?) if I respond quizzically to things I see that are scummy. The entire purpose of my playstyle is to get people to come to my conclusions organically and to allow me a paradigm shift in my views on the gamestate when I decide it's time to re-assess the gamestate. When somebody posts something and I respond to it with a vote, I fully expect people to go, "Huh, wonder what Iso sees?" and mull over that person's posts.

    If you look back shortly prior to my post, I'm sure you'll have no trouble seeing the interaction between X=Y and Ophidia that led me to consider them as a scum pairing.

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    @tom: Hi! I asked you a question. Also, please reconcile "The impression I get from Iso is competence" with "I didn't say he was doing a very good job of it." Thanks!
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    I can't realistically see a world where fonti flips town unless shadow is scum who gambited with his team to have D_V framed as the NKer once they determined he was non-town. Just musing out loud at this point, but I'm pretty sure shadow's in the clear. Let's do this.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    (Though based on Rhand's post regarding the plan I think it's largely possible for Rhand and Hunt to be scum together.)
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Yes, please Vig me toNight and put me out of my misery.

    My only qualm with the plan is that I think Rhand has a strong chance of being the 4th scum, at this point. I don't think scumCantrip would cede to frustratedIso, and would be willing to still push that lynch prior to the Vig reveal. That means that Rhand is infinitely more likely to be the 4th scum than Cantrip at this point.

    So, lynch fonti, Vig me, Jail Hunt, see what happens. But in an endgame scenario where Rhand is alive, please lynch him. That said, based on role analysis, I think Hunt is a better lynch than Rhand at this point.
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    I will verify the quest status after work tonight.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Hey, xequalsy: Why do you think I was "clearly wrong once"? Vaimes hasn't flipped. Do you expdct me to believe that you've grokked a better understanding of the gamestate than I have at this point when you've pressured absolutely nobody and the best vote you could come up with is on me?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Iso »

    I forget why I'm townreading Pozzai but I probably had a good reason.

    Quote from Iso »
    I understand that you think I'm taking a scummy approach to Pozzai, but I'm curious as to why you're focusing on this one particular read of mine that I'm choosing not to explain for [reasons] as opposed to any of my other reads, like, say, the person I'm voting.

    vote: Iso


    Right, I forgot why I'm townreading Pozzai and I'm choosing not to go back and read to remember and explain. Please explain how this is a contradiction.

    Quote from Vaimes »
    "Why are you focusing on a scumread you have that I'm obfuscating my own read on."

    You could be not purposefully obnoxious sometimes.


    Come on, Vaimes. How long have you known me, now? You know full well why I'm not re-reading at this point.

    -

    @Newcomb: Sure, I can see where you're coming from, and that's a reasonable stance to take on it - but I also have a penchance for catching scum that everyone else is hellbent on believing to be town.

    Alright, let's try this approach. Is X=Y scum, and if so, do you think my reasoning for voting him is ill-founded, or have you not figured out any of the many reasons I'm voting him, yet? Additionally, what are your thoughts on the possibility of X=Y and Ophidia being scum together?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Iso »
    It's honestly the worst vote you could make at this juncture.

    Have you considered voting for scum, instead?

    What a strange reaction to post saying I didn't want to vote you.

    Iso. Hey, Iso.

    Why isn't my vote currently on scum?


    Because you're not voting X=Y and are instead choosing to vote town.

    I understand that you think I'm taking a scummy approach to Pozzai, but I'm curious as to why you're focusing on this one particular read of mine that I'm choosing not to explain for [reasons] as opposed to any of my other reads, like, say, the person I'm voting.

    Why are you hung up on Pozzai instead of attempting to understand my approach to this game?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    It's honestly the worst vote you could make at this juncture.

    Have you considered voting for scum, instead?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from Newcomb »
    Quote from Iso »

    At any rate: With regards to Vaimes, I make my posts as I read along. If a stance in a post contrasts a stance posted earlier in that same post, it's because I've taken in new information and adjusted my view to reflect the most recent thing I've posted. I rarely ever go back and change anything in a post as I've read new stuff unless a question I ask earlier in a post has been directly answered since then. I think you're town, so I'm willing to accept your Vaimes townread.

    With regards to Grapefruit, I'm not sure what you want me to point out. His posts feel directionless and uncertain. How much clearer can I be about that short of actually going back and quoting him and pointing out where I see this?


    Hm, okay. I'd say that my townread on Vaimes here is not as strong as it was D1 in the Invitational. It's more like, "I think he's town, but regardless I don't want to lynch him D1 because I'm nearly certain I'll know for sure later."

    Like. If you're town and I'm shot N1, don't just take my Vaimes read to the bank.

    The Grapefruit thing is like... I mean, yeah, I kind of wanted that clarity of knowing the specific quotes you thought felt that way, because I didn't pick up on that vibe really at all, so maybe if I knew where you were seeing it, I'd be able to get into your head a bit more. Because right now it's just like -

    Iso: Grapefruit's posts feel directionless
    Newcomb: No they don't.
    The rest of the game: Yay?

    I guess let's talk about it from this angle - why do you feel like a player being directionless and uncertain makes them more likely to be mafia?


    Sure.

    So, I think in this case, scumGrapefruit feels out of his depth. He stated that this is his first game of forum Mafia, and he's in an unfamiliar meta. The fact of the matter is that while yes, this can also happen with town, the underlying vibe I get from his posts is not that of a town mindset. It feels like he's trying to look townie but doesn't know how - which, again, doesn't vibe well with me.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    I believe Mete0r's claim. I don't see any reason for him to come forward and falseclaim as scum as it draws unnecessary scrutiny his way. I don't like that he can't prove it, but them's the breaks. Thank you for stepping forward with that info.

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    @Rhand: I guess that makes sense; I actually didn't consider that shadow would be confirmed town for that, for some reason. I think I was still hedging on the fonti slot still being scum, but that wouldn't make any sense as why would scarbo block his buddy and also claim no block on N1? That means that fonti and Hunt are basically confirmed scum at this point and I'm fine with lynching either toDay.

    Thank you for talking some sense into me about shadow; Night 1 was a hodgepodge of confusion for me since I was still sorting things out.

    -

    @Cantrip: I'd Vig fonti for the reasons outlined above and to take a Roleblocker out of the equation.

    -

    @shadow: Please don't claim your target for toNight until Day 5.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from Vaimes »
    I'll be in your townbloc!


    I consent.

    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Iso »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    I'd also really like you to figure out the reasons for your Pozzai read.

    I'm sure you would! I'll probably re-read the game eventually after some flips and re-establish to myself why I'm townreading Pozzai (or start scumreading him, depending). I'll be glad to share if and when that happens.

    No, that's not acceptable.
    Pozzai is the top wagon, and we're less than 300 posts in.
    Your choices are figure it out and elaborate, or remove the read.

    Explain why Pozzai isn't:
    1 - A mislynch you want no part of
    2 - A teammate you can't think of a real way to defend


    Nah, that sounds like effort. I don't need to expend that until later, as that requires re-reading, which I am 100% disinterested in at this stage of the game.

    Quote from xequalsy »
    Quote from Iso »
    Vote xequalsy

    I will not be moving my vote for the rest of the Day.

    Cool, thanks for letting us know.


    You're welcome!

    Quote from xequalsy »
    But answer my question please - you basically just declared your scum team your second or so post of the game, did Vaimes's push on Regfan seem like distancing to you at the time? Who do you think are scum now (apart from me), since you seem to have recanted your Vaimes and Regfan read?


    It's almost as though you haven't been reading my posts.

    Quote from DelphiBlue »
    Quote from Iso »


    Nacho is a delight and one of my favorite people to play with. I find he tends to have a harder time faking his typical demeanor when he's scum, and as such, I think he's town.

    What is his typical demeanor?


    The post you quoted here literally has the answer to your question. Please don't waste my time. Thank you!

    Quote from Nachomamma8 »
    Iso, I'd love to be in a townblock with you but I tend to be the type that likes to see things happen naturally; if we are meant to be, then we are meant to be.


    I consent.

    Quote from Newcomb »
    @ xequalsy

    xequalsy - 4 (Typhrous, Iso, DelphiBlue, Newcomb)

    Is this an all town wagon on you?


    Ooh! Ooh! I know this one!

    ...

    But the question isn't directed at me. Frown

    At any rate: With regards to Vaimes, I make my posts as I read along. If a stance in a post contrasts a stance posted earlier in that same post, it's because I've taken in new information and adjusted my view to reflect the most recent thing I've posted. I rarely ever go back and change anything in a post as I've read new stuff unless a question I ask earlier in a post has been directly answered since then. I think you're town, so I'm willing to accept your Vaimes townread.

    With regards to Grapefruit, I'm not sure what you want me to point out. His posts feel directionless and uncertain. How much clearer can I be about that short of actually going back and quoting him and pointing out where I see this?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Iso »

    @tom: How do you reconcile my strongest scum read being X=Y and yet you put us as scum together despite his pitiful vote on me?

    I don't reconcile that at all. I'm not trying to name the team in any way.

    What do you think about Nacho?
    I'd also really like you to figure out the reasons for your Pozzai read.


    Nacho is a delight and one of my favorite people to play with. I find he tends to have a harder time faking his typical demeanor when he's scum, and as such, I think he's town.

    I'm sure you would! I'll probably re-read the game eventually after some flips and re-establish to myself why I'm townreading Pozzai (or start scumreading him, depending). I'll be glad to share if and when that happens.

    If you're not trying to name the team, your PoE process could probably use a little refining. Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

    Also, you didn't answer my question. Do you want to be part of my townbloc or not?

    Quote from Vaimes »
    I wonder if hard-townreading the dark green names and up wins us the game.

    I'm in this weird spot where Regfan ~seems town but mislynching him also sounds really funny, since fulcrum isn't here for us to trollwagon.

    We could also yololynch Iso, since he's already 100% called the mafia team. dot dot dot


    Therefore, what good could I possibly be for the rest of the game, right? :p

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    @Nacho: You didn't answer the townbloc question, either. arms crossed
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Vote xequalsy

    I will not be moving my vote for the rest of the Day.

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    @Regfan: I forget why I'm townreading Pozzai but I probably had a good reason. As for the scum read on Vaimes, he feels frantic and like he's pushing all over the place to see where he gains traction and go from there. It's a gut read on his mindset. With regards to Grapefruit, he feels uncomfortable in a non-townie way. I expect newbtown to be suspicious of everyone but it reads to me like his discomfort stems from an uncertainty of what he needs to be doing, which I don't see being terribly indicative of a town mindset. Town always know what they're supposed to be doing.

    Also, your recent posts seem townier than your early stuff so I guess you can be a town lean, now.

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    @Typhrous: Ophidia has an extremely bad habit of seeming like scum when he's town. I still haven't found a way to distinguish him as scum simply because I always think he's scum when he's town. That said, I suppose it couldn't hurt for you to check his game history to see what I mean? What are your thoughts on the possibility of Ophidia being scum with X=Y? Also, hi! Did you finally get the fleas to go away?

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    @Ophidia: Why do you need to be told to read people in-depth? Don't you care about catching scum?

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    @Newcomb: Hi! Let's chat. Also, I think I'm willing to accept your Vaimes read as canon at this point.

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    @tom: How do you reconcile my strongest scum read being X=Y and yet you put us as scum together despite his pitiful vote on me?

    Does this mean you don't want to be in my townbloc?
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    Quest 3 Proposal: Vaimes, Rhand, Mindreaver, Prophylaxis, Silvercrys3467

    Yes (1): Prophylaxis


    6 votes is majority.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    @Mete0r: That's patently false. Atog came under suspicion early by a handful of people; Rhand and D_V were two, if I'm not mistaken. Why are you making things up?

    Also, there is no case on me. arms crossed

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    @Cantrip: I asked about shadow, not fonti. I forgot that you said Hunt targeted you; it's not that I didn't care about the answer to my question, it's that I didn't remember and couldn't be arsed to read through the Day at that point as, again, I was posting from mobile. My post comes from a town mindset because my team (and presumably the scum, as well) have been *****ting on my posting since I entered the game and I yelled at you guys not to get complacent due to the Day 1 scum lynch but ohhh nooo all I see on Day 2 is "hurr durr let's lynch Anak instead of Ghosting even though Ghosting is OBVIOUSLY LYING" on Day 2 and Ghosting flipping VT would have at least given Anak another Night to try to do something and made the scum choose between killing someone read more as town and someone that's a valuable PR. I'm demotivated because Ghosting's boneheaded move forced us to mislynch twice and it looks like I'm now on the chopping block and I just really don't care to argue with anyone because I want to lynch fonti and Hunt. Like, it's apparent that the scum are trying to keep that trio alive so that we don't immediately lynch the obvscum off of whatever the true townie among them flips. Our greatest chance to hit scum comes from lynching one of those three. I only have pause about lynching fonti and Hunt because this is a Normal and the town seems brutally underpowered, especially considering there was a Hitman that needed to kill a townie to win the game. I just can't wrap my head around this setup, and that's why I'm so indecisive at the moment. I think the strongest indicator of shadow being a scum Jailer here is that he targeted D_V on N1, who I suspect the mafia believed was an SK. I don't even care about winning this game at this point because I want to dissociate myself with the play I've seen so far from this town. Granted, it would be nice to win, still, and I don't want to do Brinatoo a disservice by not playing the game properly. But I'm very, very conflicted on a number of things for a number of reasons and it's drastically affecting my performance, here. Also, you're flat-out lying that people didn't want to lynch me before toDay because that was absolutely NOT the sentiment about me on Day 1.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    Quote from Vaimes »
    I'd say you tried, but.


    Oh, were you expecting more?

    Quote from tomsloger »
    @Iso
    What stands out from xequalsy?


    The fact that he's scum, probably.

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    @Regfan: I'm sure you would!
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    wait we're in a Basic.

    I guess regfan is the least scummy of the 4?
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    I'll be honest, I glazed over most of the walls and the spam.

    Pretty sure the scum team is Grapefruit, xequalsy, regfan, and Vaimes.

    You're welcome.

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    @tom, Nacho, & Pozzai: Hi! Wanna be in a townbloc with me?
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    posted a message on Avalon Mafia (Quest 4 - Party Selection)
    Cantripmancer has approximately 88 hours to make a team selection.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    Like, I am so sorry for being a Mafia Scrooge at this point but I am just frustrated beyond belief. I've been getting ***** on all game.
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    posted a message on Overwatch Mafia! Game Over - Dissolved
    @Mete0r: PoE suggests I'm town. I don't understand how your Nightkill analysis indicates that I would be scum. I pushed Ghosting because he was scummy as **** and counterclaimed the Town Watcher and then retracted his claim after the Town Watcher flipped, immediately resulting in him getting lynched with prejudice. Ghosting single-handedly threw the game for the town and I'm pretty pissed about that. If you don't get my logic, have you considered thinking about my posts instead of just reading them? And what reasoning am I tricking people with, exactly? I don't think we're playing the same game and that concerns me.

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    @Rhand: How is shadow confirmed town? Please explain. Also, why are you trying to lynch me for reconsidering the game state after my strongest scumread flipped town? Like, what the ****? Also, there are almost definitely 3 scum left because I'm about 98% certain D_V needed arcwind dead to win.

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    @shadow: Spoilers, I'm town. Hope that makes it easier for you.

    -

    And you guys think I'm scum because I'm analyzing the game in light of being proven wrong about Ghosting and because you don't understand what I'm saying about Huntzilla.

    I'm pretty done with this game. If you want to lynch me, get it over with, but I'm just done with the absolute garbage play and lack of critical thinking, and Ghosting's bull***** seriously put me on tilt. You guys have had a lynchboner for me all game because my predecessor didn't post, I provided solid analysis off of the arcwind flip, and now I'm getting discounted because I'm actually thinking about the gamestate after new information has come to light.

    I like you guys but god damn are you infuriating.

    Not once did I say I didn't want to lynch fulcrum. Not a single time. I simply said I'm more inclined to lynch Huntzilla at this stage.

    But I understand reading comprehension is hard. After all, basically nobody has followed along with anything I've said all game.

    Anyway, whatever. Talk to me, or throw the game. Your choice.
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    posted a message on JURASSIC PARK ADVENTURE 2 Mafia (#90) - DAY 2: FALLEN LILY
    HEY GUYS CAN WE PLEASE STOP IMAGE LEECHING

    I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO KEEP GETTING CARDED AND POTENTIALLY SUSPENDED, DISRUPTING THE MAFIA GAME

    IF YOU'RE GOING TO POST AN IMAGE DIRECTLY INTO YOUR POST PLEASE USE A DEDICATED IMAGE HOSTING SITE SUCH AS IMGUR

    THANK YOU


    Okay, I'm reading what's gone on so far in a bit.
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