I have been, and I'll tell you right now very rarely do I cast it turn 2 and feel like I instantly win turn 3. Turn 4/5, sure. But I think I have won turn 3 after casting turn 2 Day's (which doesn't happen that often to be fair) maybe....4 times with I don't know how many opportunities.
That statement is hyperbole, and for those of us actually interested in your results is not helpful.
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Aug 9, 2015Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)Quote from KrYo42 »In the first game against twin, day's got me a full board by t3 thus allowing me to kill.
In all my games day's performed well.
But yes some games were won by classic affinity. You can have 4 day's in the list but not see them
You said you attacked for 10 and then days'd. Does that not mean you could have just attacked for 10 and won the game the next turn?
I just don't see examples of "I needed Day's to win this game" in most peoples reports. And I never hear of games where Day's won their opponents games I just hear the games where Days made them flood the board and win (in niche cases)
Aug 8, 2015Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)Quote from KrYo42 »Quote from dzns0fmuffinz »Hey Kyro, mind giving a play by play if you can remember? Would give some insight on how Day's did against Burn and Grixis Twin!
Did not take any notes on this tournament, but :
Playing against burn was quite straight forward. If i remember correctly i finished first game at around 10 lifes, and the second at 15.
The key point is that actual burn builds plays like 15 creatures, none with flying.
If they cast their creature, they dont blast you. If they blast you, they dont kill your creatures.
Welding jar is your ally. Always blast Eidolon.
I played my master beeing sure that they could not blast it.
Activate your moths only if they are full tap.
Day's can be awfull agains burn, but if you cast it befor turn 3 (for him), they will never have enough mana to kill you with a fresh hand. You will next have enough artifacts to kill with master/cranial/ravager.
Twin was another amazing game.
I started first.
Played darksteel, mox, 2 memnites, drum. Took one blue from mox, played another mox, cast master.
Opponent played an island and a serum vision, passed turn
Top decked day's... Atacked for 10, played day's
My opponent played a fetch and passed turn.
Flushed my hand and a cranial (countered) for the win.
He started, played a fetch.
I played inkmoth, orni, mox, drum, pest and keeped darksteel, ravager and day's in hand.
He fetched a steam vents, played an island, passed turn.
Draw cranial. Played cranial, countered. played ravager. Attacked for 2 poisons.
He played an serum and passed turn.
Draw blinkmoth. Played it and swing for victory with sacrificing my board for ravager and inkmoth.
Planning to play 2 small moderns next week. Will try to take some notes.
But i think my opponents will prepare a sidebord against my build.
So I'm just gonna play Devil's advocate here:
both of those games against Twin, Day's did nothing. I was excited to see Day's do something there but sadly, when I played it today it did nothing. I drew nut hands and just didn't cast it, or when I did cast it I was already winning.
Against my Bloom opponent I cast Day's 5 times, all 5 times they won the game after it (even though I needed to cast it to try and overload him)
Against my Burn opponents 4 times it filed their hand with burn, I won the game 2 of 4 but the games where they had Eidolon I just could not cast it or I would lose the game. The games where I played like a regular affinity deck I won the game easily.
Aug 7, 2015Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)Quote from Kovo »Maybe something like this?
DeckMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards Creature (26)
4x Arcbound Ravager
3x Disciple of the Vault
2x Etched Champion
3x Hangarback Walker
4x Signal Pest
4x Vault Skirge
4x Darksteel Citadel
4x Inkmoth Nexus
4x Cranial Plating
4x Mox Opal
4x Springleaf Drum
4x Galvanic Blast
2x Shrapnel Blast
2x Ancient Grudge
2x Blood Moon
2x Etched Champion
2x Ethersworn Canonist
1x Wear / Tear
Cut some of the Mountains for Dual B/R lands, as you really want to cast Disciple.
If your running 6 sac outlets you also want multiple Disciples, so I would go to 4. Also like someone said, probably not a good idea to cut Memnites. The deck is already slow dont make it even more slow.
I still think Blinkmoth is better than Inkmoth in this version as you really want to just eek out every last point of life, and Inkmoth doesnt help taht race. Its different in the Overseer/classic Affinity lists where you go for poison kills more often (I think I win 20% of my games with poison in regular affinity, maybe a bit less), but I also think you can get away with 15 colored sources (or maybe even 14) and run 1 Inkmoth and 4 Blinkmoth (or 3/3 if you have 14 sources, or 2/4).
Blood Moon and Choke is a LOT of wasted space, and honestly I'm not as impressed with Blood Moon lately. I dont like it in the Junk matchup, I dont like it against Tron as we REALLY want our manlands to be turned on, and Amulet Bloom is on the very heavy decline. If you like it I would still go down to just 1, but defeinitely not 4 land enchantments that is an absurd amount.
Aug 7, 2015Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)Quote from TheAller »I agree with DXI on Overseer (definitely not to be run in a Disciple version).
I like Champion in the board (I would run even 4) and I like the third Walker. But when it comes to Temur Battle Rage...again, maybe I'm a bit repetitive...isn't it better to run a Shrapnel Blast instead? It's a better late game topdeck.
Gerry Thompson told me to try the Battle Rage. So I'm gonna try it. Its PROBABLY better as the Blast (or another card) but, I'm gonna try it regardless
Aug 7, 2015Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)Quote from TheAller »@ DXI: there are three things that don't convince me in your list.
1). Atog. Is this card really playable? Using Atog as a sac outlet is way more dangerous than using Ravager. As someone else already suggested, I believe Shrapnel Blast is probably better. Have you tested Blast? I'm a bit biased because I used to run 1-2 copies of it up until a few months ago even when nobody was running it anymore. I'm a big fan of Blast, I really like the reach Blast gives me.
2). Only two copies of Hangarback Walker? I think in a decklist like the one you posted, he should be a 3 of. I run 3 in my deck currently and my deck is still a traditional build. The card is really good and I want to draw one in most games.
3). Is Etched Champion ok as a maindeck card in a decklist like this one? I believe it would be better to run a third Hangarback instead, and then maybe a third Memnite/Shrapnel Blast. Champion would still be a very valid sideboard option.
I have tested in real life, and Atog has been good for one reason: Disciple wants to finish people off with reliable sac outlets.
I had tried Shrapnel Blast and it wasnt phenomenal, but then again I might just be salty that my Junk opponent was running Dromoka's command and blew me out with it (I still won the game but boy did that feel bad, i got 3 for 1'd).
I have been talking with Gerry about it and he said if I'm going to run Atog to try a Temur Battle Rage, as it also combos with large hangarback's, plating, ravager and now Atog so I'm gonna try a one of. I'm also gonna cut the other Etched Champion and move to 3 in the board to try out the following:
At this point, I may want to try some number of stars over springleaf drum, as we are running almost mono-2 drops, and it gives us something free to sac however it will slow us down, so I'm hesitant to try that.
As for a Shrapnel Blast list:
Because I havent missed Inkmoth Nexus much, I'm going to be re-trying my Tempered Steel list as Hangarback Walker and Tempered Steel sounds dirty.
The main deck steel overseer may be better as a Spellskite, and I may cut the 2nd Inkmoth for the 4th Darksteel Citadel, but I got my 16 white sources this way so we're gonna maybe try it.
And because to show I'm not completely nuts, in case my first PPTQ next weekend doesnt go well, I'll be going to this in the 2nd (or sooner if these lists dont show promise)
Aug 7, 2015Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)Quote from ashtonkutcher »Quote from Kovo »I really want to build an affinity deck with focus on walker and using the sack outlet to deal damage, or produce flyers. It will take some playing around.
Me too. Could be interesting to use Disciple of the Vault in such a deck. Has anyone come up with a list yet?
Aug 6, 2015One thing I will note: I think Hangarback Walker is going to open up a lot of options for people building Affinity synergies. Specifically, moving away from 8 man lands and maybe going to 6 or 5 with cutting down Inkmoths for more colored sources to play powerful cards like Tezzeret, Tempered Steel or Atog/Disciple, and I think its something people should be on the lookout for in the coming weeks.Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
Aug 6, 2015Because Shrapnel Blast was not impressive, and Atog gives a) Another threat and b) recurring sac outlet for Disciple shenanigans.Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
5 damage was great, but I felt like I flooded on Burn and fell behind. Maybe its better than Atog, not sure. But gonna try this out and see how it goes (Please feel free to help me out)
Aug 6, 2015Alright. So I tested my affinity list and here are my thoughts:Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
Disciple of the Vault broke the mirror. In half. I didnt realise the card says when "AN" artifact, not when an artifact you control, dies. So ya. Card was nuts and I 2-0'd my 2 matches vs Affinity easily.
I also lost to burn for the first time in a very long time 1-2, but I could have played much better. I was trying a couple different things and it didnt work, I know now. It happens.
I also beat Junk on the back of Disciples saccing to get around Lingering Souls, and Etched Champion being Etched Champion. But after I showed him how to properly board I won 2 games of 10 post board, but the only time he did win was turn 2 Stony Silence. So that wasnt too good, but at the same time Stony Silence just isnt played very much. Regardless, made some tweaks.
As such, this is what I'm trying the next few days:
Need to work on the sideboard a lot, but I think the main board is at the point where if the deck doesnt perform, I'm just going to perfect/tune my stock list, as I dont think Days Undoing is gaining percentage vs Jund and Grixis Control (which is already a favorable matchup) to lose a lot of points vs the mirror and burn.
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Oct 12, 2012No problem. I had some people ask me to write one so i decided if i was going to do it I was going to do it right.Posted in: DXI-Edge Blog
I figured that not enough people from my meta would be reading this so i decided to go a little more in depth to give you guys exactly how i felt about specific decks and how to make them better, which is how a lot of writers DONT do it. Normally they explain the list and end it at that. I wanted to give you guys my opinion to make them better. You decide if its right or wrong.
thanks for commenting/reading and hope to see more in the future
Oct 8, 2012I dont like it for one reason: mana.Posted in: DXI-Edge Blog
If we had breeding pool completely different story. I would NOT be advocating GW midrange at all. it would be Bant. But unreliability to cast it is hard.
I can see using Farseek over Arbor elf but then your losing turn 2 geist, and imo the best Farseek deck is Jund (for aggressive ish decks) so your just behind...
Oct 4, 2012I actually changed the Junk list to GW, as I was noticing some patterns in the Junk list:Posted in: DXI-Edge Blog
1) double white was hard.
2) single black was even harder
3) having both, while it did happen, didn't happen often.
The list relied a lot on going Overgrown tomb into Pilgrim, turn 2 Chapel/Sunpetal.
So I cut out the black, switched Decay to Charm and streamlined the deck and its much more consistent while still having removal. The lack of Sever sucks, but having 3 Charms for trample over lingering souls tokens helps.
I tried Vault over Gavony, but the deck's dorks did literally nothing late game. The deck liked having a mana sink that made your guys bigger, and 90% of the time the list out raves other decks anyway
Duress I'm not sure about
As for a list, GW midrange is powerful, UW Humans is good. Either I would be fine with. I'm working on. 3rd Rampy list right now but that won't be revealed till after provincials
Sep 25, 2012I haven't found a good Jund Midrange deck to test against yet. I know there is one and i know its good but what it is i dont know yet, so thats why i didnt talk about it much.Posted in: DXI-Edge Blog
However, thank you and i do agree that it is, until breeding pool comes out in which case turn 2 geist could be a thing
Sep 23, 2012Bonfire is gonna decrease in Popularity due to not being insane vs. Zombies. Its still good, and will see play, but not as much as it does nowPosted in: DXI-Edge Blog
Thragtusk is an important card yes i will admit that
Lingering Souls will also be good but if it gets too good Sever, Detention Sphere will run around the format.
For the entrance to the metagame, my 3 cards WILL be the format. As the metagame evolves, Lingering Souls and Thragtusk will become 2 more pillars
Sep 22, 2012DXI-Edge posted a message on Half way gone...and I'm loving every minute of it!Slitherhead is horrible, please dont play him.Posted in: DXI-Edge Blog
Please go back up to 22 lands. Im gonna say go up to 23, but with Sign in Blood you MAY be able to afford 22, but 23 is optimal. 20 is WAY too few for a 3 colour deck, and you want 4 on turn 4 for Aristocrat anyway, so please go up to 23.
4 of Rancor, and so many red spells is asking for disaster, You need to slim down on the non-black spells, or move to a more midrange style.
PLAY DREG MANGLER! its insane and is an auto- 4 of in ALL zombie decks from here on out. I'm even playing it in Junk (see next blog post)
thanks for commenting!
Sep 13, 2012DXI-Edge posted a message on Half way gone...and I'm loving every minute of it!ThanksPosted in: DXI-Edge Blog
Second, not OVERLY. I think Junk midrange will actually be better due to having Green turn 1 more often while having other colours too (Temple Garden, Overgrown Tomb) Most of the good midrange decks I've played play Turn 1 dork to accelerate into the mid game bomb creatures.
The Junk deck I'm trying to build but there are so many variables for it its tough at the moment. however that is where i will be headed next.
Also, if more Rakdos cards are spoiled that are awesome, I'm probably also brewing Grixis Control. i edited that into the Blog.
Thanks for commenting
Oct 18, 2011I think the RDW will be a mix of RDW/RGDW, as in Wolf Pack (my list)Posted in: Mockingbird Blog
but ill bite. i say...after this weekend. So Monday the...24th. PM Hours (After this next SCG Open)
RG Wolf Ramp
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