MTG Salvation

Quote from lol-Raven

Oh no, I'm just trying to come up with a remotely plausible theory, should he be a werewolf. Believe me, I want him to be GB, I really do lol. Unless they kill him off, I dont see the point in having a werewolf walker outside of this block. I agree with you, I just heard that all werewolves are flip cards, and all RG flip cards are werewolves.

Wizards do have a "let's have the bad guys win" theme going on recently, so it would not be a complete surprise if they killed him off in this set after giving him multiple cards.

Not to mention MaRo has been wrong in what he's said on numerous occasions when he gets all excited about throwing out spoilers to interviewers on videos, either a) on purpose to get people building wild theories, or b) cause he's an ass like that.
the SoM watermark is one prime example

I just think making him a werewolf would be entirely pointless unless his abilities revolved around the creature type, which would narrow him down more that Nissa, due to the lack of werewolves in EVERY block. Nissa was for elves, which get their own cards in every block. surely making a PW for Werewolves would be narrowing a PW's usage to 1 block, unless they started printing off more in sets where it would make little or no sense to have werewolves on the plane, just to support the garruk werewolf tribal fanclub

Did anyone consider the possibility of there being a 13th werewolf instead of chasing the idea that garruk is the 13th flip card to be a werewolf?

Garruk arrives on innistrad, gets attacked by wolves, curse hinders him, he gets bitten.

Seems a little convinient and makes Garruk look like a total ***** if a PW can't fend off some wolves, not to mention his spark giving him all kinds of protections people have mentioned earlier about the phyrexian oil.
I know it would sound a feel awesome if he was and became a tribal 2nd side for werewolves, but why make a walker fit into that set of creatures if we're only gonna have werewolves in this one block? (i dont see werewolves cropping up in ravnica or whatever fabled plane is in the block after)
Seems like you take an idea you really want, and grab hold of any tiny strand to make it plausible.
I'd stick my ass on the line and say he's just a Garruk 'Walker with 2 sides for 5 abilities like MaRo said, with one side all cursed and what not

I strongly doubt Garruk will flip into a creature, because unless he has damage prevention like Gideon (where's the fun in making a planeswalker almost identical to another?) then you'd pay your loyalty to flip and and then your opponent throws his Go for the throat and you cry a little inside

Quote from _

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=7032074&postcount=6

That is a literal incarnation of that post verbatim

I third that statement, i was looking at that post yesterday, then saw this card and immediately thought that either the guy was psychologically linked to the design team, or the OP just ninja'd a picture and copy pasta'd the speculated abilties...

Quote from Devils Advocate

Yeah, cause Cryptic Command is a terrible card. The fact of the matter is, this card allows people to play 4 more counters in their deck without playing any less lands. That's good. Even if you never end up using it as a counter, you're more likely to have a counter in your hand, and no less likely to have anything else. Any deck that can reliably make UU would run 4 copies of the card as originally submitted. It may not be degenerate, but anything that requires no thought to decide if you should run it or not is very, very powerful.

i think cryptic command is partially different, in the fact that it's a counter for 4cmc and gives you another thing on top of that (ie card advantage)

what's wrong with an uncounterable counter at 4cmc? How many of you guys countered a counter on regular occasions?

I can see a small issue with it being a land and therefor automatically being put in every U/x deck, but not exactly hurrendously OP

I think "balancing" to the MaRo-degree would just make it a cack card that defeats the point of the guy even making his own card

"Gratz on your prize, when we give you this ferrari, you can drive it around, but then we're going to take the wheels off it aswell as the engine" - the closest i can get to a situation with similarities...

Quote from Maokun

I know, right? Those lazy losers should put a second mortgage to their homes and sell their first born as a slave, so they could afford paying the monthly rent of a huge store capable of holding the numbers that regional PRs used to have and the proper amount of employees to maintain such installations. All this to provide services and products that attract a tiny market percentage of the population. Definitely they are to blame.

I second that /rant !

I have never been to a pre-release event or regional event, and quite possibly never will, due to the lack of stores anywhere near where i live (and there are 2-3 cities on 30mins away), we had a local store which was promptly shut down because of the lack of players, and another TCG shop closed down not so long ago because of little or no support...

I would take the choice of getting to the nearest store that's 3 hours away, but with the way the release days changed, I can't really see the point of cramming myself into a tiny store with equally disgruntled players, numbering to almost 1 whole dozen

Quote from Stardust

Dark Confidant would certainly get people excited, and fits the flavour we've seen so far.

i strongly doubt Bob will be in INN, I could imagine that card causing some complaints...

Quote from arise_shine

One of the extracted cards from the DOTP 2012 files is a black creature that draws an extra card (and loses a life) every turn (I think it's 3BB for a 4/4 flier).

Murder of Crows I do believe

Thanks for the info guys, clears that one up for me

Not sure if it was covered previously, but i was looking at a few combos with Norn's Annex to essentially force the opponent to attack and lose life due to the annex (provided they're either not white or tapped out), one being gideon, and another being Rage Nimbus

Can anyone clarify this for me?

I know i for one will be grabbing this on release day, purely for collective purposes and some nice random cards in the deck to include in my r/w/g causal-blade deck

Quote from 13055

Also, the Duels of the Planeswalker preview deck had the UG Merfolk chick, who's been confirmed as a PW (there's a thread in Speculation), and I'm guessing she'll be UG, which would make a second Green Walker in Garruk less likely.

This.
I don't believe they will print Garruk in Inni, and then again in M12.
More than likely Lilliana and Merfolk 'walker for inni, leaving garruk with M12

Quote from Jake1991

Dang. I guess they're reprints. Looks like I'm ordering some Gideons soon.

actually from what i can see and compare, garruks segment of card looks different, if not brighter from the original

Quote from Burcke

Floating mana empties when changing steps or phases, so the mana you float will only be usable in the combat damage step.

unless of course you're running Omnath, Locus of Mana for some reason?

Quote from Arven

Asceticism is another way to feel more comfortable about playing Precursor Golem.

i second this, hence why my original template was mainly g/w
tempered steel is pretty good for inclusion. if the main idea is to throw out splicers left right and centre, you want buffs alongside the ones you're getting from the splicers themselves, and i thought Rusted Relic was an interesting addon to this idea
going to drop in a true conviction for this and overwhelming stampede as a form of finisher, or at least a way to make a large dent in your opponents face
then i threw in Birds of Paradise and Alloy Myr for the mana ramp to attempt a Etched Monstrosity dropout (a 5/5 for that will no doubt get insta buffed when it hits the field is a nice addon to all the current 3/3's regardless of whether you manage the extra 5cmc cost)