Continuing the "which basic land' questions, can those who are running md pyroclasms and mountain comment on how valuable the mountain is. Ie how often do you need to quarter yourself to get the mountain to cast them?
I'm currently testing the md pyros but have always stuck to forest as the sole basic to help cast abrupt decay under blood moon. Admittedly i havent really seen many blood moons floating around these days though so maybe it isn't much of a worry anymore
I prefer a forest as that still allows me to cast stirrings to find the cards (and other colors) I need. I'd be more inclined to run a swamp before I ran a mountain. as swamps cast our discard, tutor and half of abrupt decay (as does forest)
I find leyline stopping thought knot to be more useful than having pyro or surgical in all three matchups, though there is debate about this. It's better on the draw, since its not unlikely for them to play him on turn three, before we can land a bridge, and having that protection out lets us strip away other hate they have in their hands. It also stops U/W from forcing us to draw before we find a needle, and stops U/R from using Hurkylls, which is their primary hate against us.
Very much agree with this. Being able to play your hand untouched by Thought Knot makes such a huge difference. Turning off recall is fantastic too.
I disagree with your thoughts on GR Eldrazi. I've won quite a few games against them. ( I think I'm currently 3 - 1 in series)
Needle or surgical Worldbreaker, and who cares about a single instant speed draw? If you don't have multiple mill rocks something's going wrong anyways.
I haven't had a chance to play against GR Eldrazi yet, but I don't see why it's considered such a bad matchup. Post-board it'd certainly get worse, it just seems like another Jund-style matchup where they have maindeck cards that're relevant + Grudge sideboard so we actually need to work to win the series.
GR Eldrazi is the absolute worst. If you have a winning record against it you have either been very lucky or your opponents are below par.
Yes you can handle World Breaker with needle/extraction but you've still got to deal with grudges.......all while worrying about landing a bridge and dodging Though-Knot Seers.
Spellskite protects bridge for long enough to get a needle on World Breaker so they can't bring it back from the yard. It's basically a lock at that point.
I did have a guy double dismember his own breaker so he could recur it one time. That was amusing.
I have been playing pyroclasm in the main over skite. might give it the switch....or even move decay to the SB for them.
@valleysdai, to claim that game 1 with mill rock, lantern, surgical in hand its correct to play mill rock is not correct imo. You claim that top card is the one that they need to combo. Instead, it could just as equally likely be the 2nd top card. If you play lantern first you get info on everything. Its also unlikely your game 1 opponent is on combo vs something else that has discard spells.
It was a game where I didn't have lantern in my hand, but the hand was too good to mulligan. I had the lock on but no lantern
What are people's plans against Eldrazi decks running World Breakers? It's the only match up I feel I have to get very lucky to win against.
Sure the dream is to surgically extract a World Breaker before they get a chance to use it but that can be tricky, not to mention you are still trying to get a bridge intro play asap to avoid the heavy beats and any other incidental hate they have.
I just feel the deck has inevitability against us.
I'm generall a spike but have not played a lot recently due to business priorities. I've kept in the loop somewhat with whats winning and what my meta looks like.
I just want to play sometime tonight thats a lot of fun and will make people (including myself) say WTF?!
I have not heard much about it since gatecrash and now dragonsmaze. now that we have all the shocks for rangers path and a load more spells, there had to be something cool to do with it?
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but I haven't seen anyone mention that Rest In Peace ends any of the first ability shenanigans. I still think that this card will see plenty of standard play, but keep in mind that rest in peace is an answer.
yep it will be a big player. Will be interesting to see if that starts to see maindeck play with so much GY stuff now.
If not you wil obviously be bringing in enchanment hate.
With that said, Jace's 0 ability will still add up.
I prefer a forest as that still allows me to cast stirrings to find the cards (and other colors) I need. I'd be more inclined to run a swamp before I ran a mountain. as swamps cast our discard, tutor and half of abrupt decay (as does forest)
Very much agree with this. Being able to play your hand untouched by Thought Knot makes such a huge difference. Turning off recall is fantastic too.
Hmm the fact affinity is #2 Dog is not helping us
GR Eldrazi is the absolute worst. If you have a winning record against it you have either been very lucky or your opponents are below par.
Yes you can handle World Breaker with needle/extraction but you've still got to deal with grudges.......all while worrying about landing a bridge and dodging Though-Knot Seers.
I have been playing pyroclasm in the main over skite. might give it the switch....or even move decay to the SB for them.
May we please see your stock list?
How do you have the lock with no Lantern?
Sure the dream is to surgically extract a World Breaker before they get a chance to use it but that can be tricky, not to mention you are still trying to get a bridge intro play asap to avoid the heavy beats and any other incidental hate they have.
I just feel the deck has inevitability against us.
Hm, I guess you missed the part how I said last STD BEFORE M14
I just want to play sometime tonight thats a lot of fun and will make people (including myself) say WTF?!
thoughts?
oh really. Are they in this thread?
could you please link me to the comments? I have tried to find them.
Thanks so much!
yep it will be a big player. Will be interesting to see if that starts to see maindeck play with so much GY stuff now.
If not you wil obviously be bringing in enchanment hate.
With that said, Jace's 0 ability will still add up.