I get your point. If this deck produces as much mana you say it does, you need as many repeatable draw effects as possible especially your win conditions are few.
Speaking about wincons, how about Squirrel Nest? You already use Earthcraft and Nest can works well with Patron even without it. We're talking about at least one Squirrel per player each turn. Maybe not that much but...
EDIT: I also noticed you don't use Yeva, Nature's Herald. Is there a reason to NOT have a way to cast Patron at instant speed? It seems as good here as in Omnath.
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Oct 19, 2017What do you think about using Holdout Settlement and Survivors' Encampment in mana base. They let you tap inspired creatures without Phenax and using combat step.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
I also think Paradox Engine and/or Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal combo is worth reconsideration.
Oct 19, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)Quote from GloriousGoose »
I'm not sure I agree. I suppose this discussion inevitably leads down the path of ease of recursion vs difficulty of being removed, but the deal-breaker for me is cost. 4cmc and 6cmc are worlds apart to me. NoSB comes down earlier when it's more likely that there are dorks and tokens that haven't been wiped yet. In my deck in particular that is very creature light where the anthem effect of ol' Crovax is wasted I believe Betrayal to be the better card for my deck.
Of course, in the right list that can better capitalize on all of his effects he's probably better. If I recall correctly your list is staxier and has a higher creature density than mine so it makes more sense for you to run the Evincar. I just don't think it's a clear cut case of one being better than the other.
Sure, Night may be better in multicolored, creature-light combo-decks but mono-black rarely wins by combo, more with classic creature beatdown (after imposing control/stax on the table) which NoSB hampers (and Evincar don't). Only relevant pure-black combo decks are Razaketh and Sidisi but the former uses tokens and small creatures so Night goes against its gameplan while 4CMC hurts when revealed by Ad Nauseam in the latter.
Believe me - I've tried using it in both mono and BX decks with no luck. I can see it running in Oloro, Ageless Ascetic (along with Humility) or Daxos the Returned but its uses are very limited.
Oct 17, 2017You play a lot of spells which mess with enemy combat step or just bounce creatures. Do you really face that many aggro decks that you need them all? Aggro is generally weak in Commander (unless it's Avenger of Zendikar or unlimited creatures attacking) and Kefnet is good aggro deterrent anyway so I feel cards like Evacuation or Aetherize are empty when facing non-aggro decks. If you want to tech against creatures then maybe Gravitational Shift would serve you better? It makes your commander a three-turn clock at least.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
EDIT: What do you think about Surveyor's Scope? I'm trying to fit it in somewhere and Kefnet's ability seems to go in par with this one.
Oct 15, 2017Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
Well, I still wonder why you play such lackluster pieces of draw. Wouldn't using Kozilek, Butcher of Truth or even Mind's Eye you've discarded earlier better? At least you can tutor for the first one (Time of Need) and the second is bonkers when facing decks with blue.
How about Selvala's Stampede? Given your creature count is low it would work like one-sided Oath of Druids and the option to drop stuff from your hand is useful for expensive draw/tutor artifact things (Planar Portal/Bridge).
Oct 12, 2017.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
Azusa goes Turbo(land)
Welcome in the Forest. Azusa's no longer lost, she's found multiple paths to victory. This deck is a result of over ten years of playing and testing different card configurations to make a distinct Commander archetype - Turboland Aggro-Control. While first two segments of the name are more or less self-explanatory - half of the deck are lands and it wins through massive combat damage as fast as possible - the control part is something you don't see so often in mono-green. But first - a decklist.
This archetype is a result of both land and nonland card choices based on five premises:
Green's best at three things: land management, creature tutoring and enchantment/artifact removal so card choices focus on these. As such enchantments, artifacts and planeswalkers are mostly avoided except for the most powerful and synergic ones as they die from inbound mass removals (Bane, Stone), are harder to recover and cannot be tutored for. Even cards like Planar Bridge or Planar Portal are ommited for that reason as well as any artifact ramp which is worse than lands at every stage of a game except for Turn 1. Deck also focuses on reaping most benefits from Azusa's multiple land drops which directly points to landfall ability and cards like Horn of Greed and Crucible of Worlds/Ramunap Excavator (with fetches).Weakness-covering
Green's pretty bad at creature removal and interaction with stack but is not entirely helpless against them. Instant answers like Mouth of Ronom, Warping Wail, Beast Within or even Bind can easily catch opponents off guard while Oblivion Stone or Ugin can level a whole field of creatures if needed. Song of the Dryads makes great work at stopping commander-dependant decks and Glacial Chasm is priceless against any aggro or damage-based strategies and combos.Toolboxing
Having enough green search spells, redundancy in creature and land choices should avoided most of the time. Available creature tutors can find disruption (Thought-Knot Seer), removal (Bane of Progress), gravehate (Scavenging Ooze), recursion (Eternal Wintess) and more, not to mention tutoring for lands with equally diverse abilities. Redundant fatties like Avenger of Zendikar and Hornet Queen are not used both as they do basicaly the same thing at the same cost. On the other hand Avenger, Rampaging Baloths and Titania all produce tokens with the help of lands but each in a different way and at different mana cost which matters for cards like Birthing Pod or Eldritch Evolution. Exceptions to this rule are cheap cards that greatly support Azusa's gameplan of getting multiple land drops per turn along with multiple landfall triggers, that's why there is Oracle and Courser as well as Crucible and Ramunap along with playset of fetches.Resilience
Every deck needs means to recover from inevitable loses. It doesn't mean more threats are needed - it means there should be cards able to recover, reanimate or replay them using tools available for a green deck. Eternal Witness is classics and Artisan of Kozilek drops huge, annihilating body on the board along with reanimated creature. Temur Sabertooth protects stuff from removal and gives ability to reuse ETB triggers. When someone attacks deck's graveyard there is Kozilek to shuffle it back in with the help of Survival or sac outlet. Multiple draw effects allow to dig for more threats and answers and some of them use fatties as a draw fodder in response to enemy's removal.Tempo
Playing Azusa as a tempo deck is crucial. Tempo means there should be a selection of Turn 1 spells and lands that allow getting Turn 2 Azusa (eg. Crop Rotation, Elvish Spirit Guide) and T2 plays which support casting commander on T3 (eg. Sylvan Library, Lotus Cobra). Each of these T1 and T2 spells should also be able to work with no less efficiency in a mid-late game so any fast artifact ramp is not advisable here. The next turn or two should focus on further ramping (eg. Realms Uncharted, Oracle of Mul Daya) and the ones after should be dedicated to landing threats (eg. Avenger of Zendikar, Eldrazi titans). When game goes into late stage and earlier threats have been dealt with deck switches into a control mode until more wincons are drawn.
Detailed card explanation
Lands are most important in Azusa as they not only provide resources to cast spells but a lot of them have non-mana abilities of their own. There are lot of powerful lands from a whole history of MtG so their selection have to be carefully thought over. Azusa's deck should sport at least 45 lands total with 50 being the magic number from which there is only way up. Below is selection of best lands viable for Azusa withbolded ones being what I currently use.
- Ancient Tomb, Hickory Woodlot - direct boost lands for casting Azusa on Turn 2
- Dryad Arbor - searchable by fetches if we need a creature and another boost for T2 Azusa with the help of Green Sun's Zenith. Useful as a bonus dork for Mosswort Bridge and Craterhoof counting, leaves 5/3 beater after death if Titania is around, ramps with Woodland Bellower, immortal chump-blocker with Crucible of Worlds etc.
- Tranquil Thicket, Slippery Karst, Desert of the Indomitable, Blasted Landscape - cycling lands help to... cycle through a library looking for better stuff. Can be brought back for repeated draw with LotL or expand manabase with Crucible/Ramunap.
- Misty Rainforest, Verdant Catacombs, Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills - fetches not only thin the library but also work with numerous landfall effects and well as provide steady ramp with Crucible/Ramunap. They also help to manipulate top of library for Oracle/Courser and allow to suprise opponents with Panglacial Wurm.
- Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - its presence here can confuse but it works as ramp with lands that don't produce mana (Arena) or do it conditionaly (Woodlot)
- Petrified Field - key land for Realms Uncharted selection as well as tool to recover self-saccing lands or any other destroyed by opps
- Mouth of Ronom - one of two removal lands here. It deals with utility creatures mostly and is very efficient at keeping some combos at bay.
- Arena - second removal land and the most dangerous one, especially when paired with Seedborn Muse. It also goes under hexproof (opponent gets to choose a target) and taps fighting creatures which means it can prevent them from attacking. In offense it can be used after attackers declaration step as it doesn't require creature to be untapped to fight. The best thing is it cannot be responded to with creating a token to chump as targets are chosen at ability's announcement.
- Dust Bowl - many will say Strip Mine is much better, especially with Crucible or Ramunap and they will be right but Bowl gives opportunity to reuse important lands like Mosswort Bridge, Cavern of Souls or Hickory Woodlot. The second thing is Azusa should focus on ramping itself, not denying resources for opponents as it slows gameplan considerably. Dust Bowl allows to use spare lands to snipe most important mana sources (Cradle, Coffers) or deny one color for multicolored decks.
- Boseiju, Who Shelters All - gets on the nerves of all the blue mages around. Uncounterable T&N or huge Genesis Wave is bad news for them.
- Cavern of Souls - helps to force key creatures though countermagic. Mostly used for Azusa herself (human) or several elementals and beasts with powerful ETB effects.
- Homeward Path - its mere presence prevents theft effects and stealing creatures from our graveyard. Must have when facing blue and black mages.
- Miren, the Moaning Well - usable as response to theft and exile removal and also helps to stabilize life total as this deck tends to put heavy burden on health (Library, Pod, Tomb, Boseiju, Chasm).
- Scavenger Grounds - excelent response to graveyard strategies. It exiles our own stuff too but preventing Yawgmoth's Will or Living Death from wrecking a board is priceless.
- Mirrorpool - it can copy removal spell or ramp but it's mostly used to copy utility creatures in response to removal (Muse, Oracle) or powerful ETB sources (Avenger, Craterhoof) to finish off opponents quicker.
- Winding Canyons - casting creatures at instant speed allows to implement higher level of control against a board especially for powerful ETB and on-cast effects like those of Bane of Progress, Eternal Witness or any of the Eldrazis. Godly with Seedborn Muse and Temur Sabertooth.
- Mosswort Bridge - cheating expensive spells for almost free at instant speed is always a win regardless what spell is hidden under the Bridge. 10 power requirement is fairy easy to fulfil with Panglacial Wurm hiding in the library.
- Eye of Ugin - repeatable tutor for most powerful creatures in multiverse which gives opponents' sense of inevitablility. Requires a lot of mana to work but can turn a tide of battle with a well placed Eldrazi titan. Again - great with Seedborn Muse.
- Mikokoro, Center of the Sea - kind of last resort card advantage but necessary when facing a lot of disruption and removal.
- Glacial Chasm - saves an a** in the most dangerous situations, like against lethal combat on infinite-damage combo. Its upkeep cost can be steep but Azusa with Crucible/Ramunap can mitigate it to almost nothing. Remember to fail to pay cumulative upkeep on a turn you want to attack.
- Thespian's Stage - copies most important lands as well as threatens with a colossal beater if Dark Depths are around.
- Dark Depths - trademark of "killing with lands" theme. 20/20 flying indestructible beater can be hard to deal with and cannot be countered by most spells.
- Snow-covered Forests - snow-covering is only relevant for Mouth of Ronom which is too important to pass on so basic land base is little more expensive price-wise here. Deck should sport at least 20 basic Forests (23 currently) to be able to cast color-hungry spell without issues.
- Gaea's Cradle - this land isn't here for price reasons mostly but this deck doesn't sport cheap mana dorks which are baseline for making Cradle good anyway. It doesn't allow Turn 2 Azusa and only Avenger of Zendikar / Embodiment of Insight make it worth including.
- Rishadan Port, Blinkmoth Well - disruption lands allow to slow opponent down till a deck is ready to land a threat but direct land and artifact destruction is better in most cases. Port may work with Urborg to destroy lands using Spreading Algae though.
- Strip Mine / Wasteland / Tectonic Edge - standard land hate package, faster than Dust Bowl but single-time use only unless Crucible/Ramunap is involved.
- Drownyard Temple - works in tandem with Dust Bowl to destroy lands without losing resources but does nothing beside it.
- Eldrazi Temple / Shrine of the Forsaken Gods / Sanctum of Ugin - required for decks with stronger focus on Eldrazi titans.
- Urza's Mine, Urza's Power Plant, Urza's Tower - classic big-mana package which may not be that hard to assemble but gives nothing beside mana. Better with stronger Eldrazi focus.
- Dread Statuary / Stalking Stones / Treetop Village / Hostile Desert / Mutavault / Inkmoth Nexus - used when focused more on land-creatures subtheme but requires supporting cards like Sylvan Advocate.
- Gemstone Caverns / City of Traitors / Crystal Vein / Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper - even more options for T2 Azusa at the cost of card disadvantage. Azusa's a tempo deck not combo so going glass cannon is not advised here.
- Mystifying Maze - more protection against beatdown but costs too much and triggers ETB abilities on creature's return.
- Maze of Ith - it doesn't produce mana and deck should have as lowest selection of such lands as possible. Going on defense is one of the last things we want to do with Azusa anyway.
- Buried Ruin - recovers key artifacts like Crucible, Pod or Horn, especially when Bane of Progress needs to be fired off but artifact supply in Azusa is too low to use it regulary.
- Hall of the Bandit Lord - hasty, annihilating Eldrazis are tempting but life loss and ETB tapped hurts.
- Scrying Sheets / Thawing Glaciers / Terrain Generator - more options to ramp are good but Sheets has too low chance to hit (20-25%), Glaciers ETB tapped and Generator is redundant with Azusa.
- Throne of the High City - drawing one more card per turn is great but protecing Monarch status can be hard. Has obvious synergy with Glacial Chasm and may be supported by Regal Behemoth to reap more benefits with double mana.
- Geier Reach Sanitarium / Sea Gate Wreckage - alternatives to Mikokoro but Sanitarium doesn't give direct card advantage and Wreckage is rarely active in practice.
There is one problem with picking creatures for Azusa - there is too many to choose from, especially for higher CMC slots. To mantain proper tempo of a deck, the higher CMC slot is, the less creatures should occupy it. Unless someone wants to focus on specific subtheme (like land-creatures, eldrazi invasion or focused hate), list below allows to covers most aspects of this archetype.
- Lotus Cobra - this little snake can produce absurd amounts of mana with the help of Azusa's multiple land drops and playset of fetches. Landed Turn 2 can easily enable close to ten mana on Turn 3.
- Scavenging Ooze - 99% competitive or semi-competitive decks use their graveyards to some extend and this little critter disrupts their plans. It can also grow to become serious threat. Lifegain portion is just icing on a cake.
- Scryb Ranger - provides emergency land drops when short on mana which may be worth all or nothing. Its untapping ability goes to waste most of the time but flashy flying blocker with relevant protection can turn imminent death into a victory march.
- Courser of Kruphix - direct support for Azusa's ability. Its only flaw is it dies from Bane of Progress.
- Elvish Spirit Guide - allows for T2 Azusa and provides emergency mana in tight situations.
- Eternal Witness - standard recursion bear.
- Fierce Empath - tutor for beefy answers and threats. I'd wish it could find creatures starting from 5 CMC though.
- Ramunap Excavator - broken with Azusa and fetchlands or any functional sac-lands. Easily tutorable.
- Manglehorn - its main function is to slow down artifact ramp and prevent artifact combos from going off.
- Reclamation Sage - hits more targets than Manglehorn and I would likely run both if I had enough slots.
- Oracle of Mul Daya - another support for Azusa with bonus land drop attached. Optimal Turn 3-4 drop.
- Temur Sabertooth - enables reusing ETB creatures and saves them from point and mass removal. Great with Seedborn Muse and any flash-giver.
- Thought-Knot Seer - disruption on a stick, tutorable with Eye of Ugin. Priceless against combos and heavy control decks.
- Yeva, Nature's Herald - flash enabler which turns aggro into control. Green creatures clause can be a hinderance sometimes (T-K Seer, Duplicant) but she's worth having a slot here.
- Seedborn Muse - most important utility creature in a desk, enables multiple land shenanigans and casting stuff at opponents' turns with the help of flash enablers.
- Embodiment of Insight - currently tested in place of Stag (below). It strengthens aggro plan with hasty 3/3 lands which may be relevant for killing walkers and finishing wounded players. Interesting thing - it enables Turn 2 kill with a dream hand and a "bit" of luck but more of this later.
- Somberwald Stag - walking removal for utility dorks. It's green which means being a target for Green Sun's Zenith and flashy answer with Yeva. It doesn't kill beefier threats and sometimes dies in a fight though.
- Titania, Protector of Argoth - she has three roles here. First she revives fetch or utility land we need at the moment. Second, she makes tokens for aggro. Finally she protects/responds against mass land destruction strategies as blowing up lands leaves a horde of 5/3 elementals hungry for revenge.
- Bane of Progress - eater of machines and auras, hungry for artifice. He's usually a first tutor target as artifacts are used commonly in large numbers. After it's done with eating it threatens players with a fat body.
- Duplicant - unconditional removal on a stick, able to swallow Eldrazis and Gods. It's not green so no flash from Yeva but can be found with Eye of Ugin.
- Rampaging Baloths - the good thing is tokens are big enough to threaten life totals. The bad thing - they usually come next turn after casting Baloths and have to wait for another one to attack.
- Ulvenwald Hydra - with Primeval Titan gone it took its place as a land searcher with an even biger bulk. Reach gives an edge against many dangerous flyiers but lack of trample makes its huge body lackluster in many cases. Ideal Greater Good/Momentous Fall fodder though.
- Woodland Bellower - doubles as body and tutor for utility creatures. It's often better to pay more for GSZ to get two bodies instead of one at the moment.
- Avenger of Zendikar - landfall incarnated. A deck could have Azusa, 98 lands and this one to be able to win easily assuming no removal spells are cast. Anyway it's a first part of T&N "combo" to amass lethal damage using only utility dorks casted earlier.
- Panglacial Wurm - my favourite creature in a deck. It pops out from under the ground like Shai-Hulud in Frank Herbert's Dune series and devours players with its 9 trampling power. All we need is to stir a sand (crack a fetch) with enough mana to cast it. It's also known of suprising less-vigilant blue mages as they often forget it can be countered like any other creature when cast that way.
- Craterhoof Behemoth - this beast is what kills players most of the time. When brought along with Avenger of Zendikar (via T&N), opponents suddenly have to face several colossal trampling creatures coming their way.
- Artisan of Kozilek - reanimating titan with a big body and annoying annihilator ability attached. Reanimation part cannot be easily countered so bringing something from graveyard is almost always guaranteed. It can be tutored for with Eye of Ugin.
- Kozilek, Butcher of Truth - another EoU target with useful draw ability and big annihilator to boot. He also serves as a graveyard shuffler in respose to hate or steal and protects against occassional mill strategies and overdrawing the library which can happen on times.
- Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger - powerful, indestructible removal. Library exile on attack may look worse than annihilator but has its uses and can deny opponent's way to win.
- Emrakul, the Promised End - Emmy is back after her earlier incarnation's ban and still wrecks players. There is not room for both her and Ulamog though so player has to decide which Eldrazi titan fits local meta better.
Non-permanent card list is as tight as it can be so there are only the most important and powerful/synergic tutors, removal and ramp/advantage spells.
- Crop Rotation - causes card disadvantage but is too useful to pass. It enables T2 Azusa as well as tutors for any function land useful on current stage of game. Watch out for counterspells though.
- Nature's Claim - standard cheap removal. One mana cost makes it good tempo card for slowing down opponent's fast ramp or respond to Winder Orb effects after tapping out.
- Life from the Loam - it can be cast T2 into empty graveyard to mill next turn and retrieve lands to ramp with Azusa. With 50 lands it hits at least 1 land each turn and using fetches and cycle land only make it better.
- Sylvan Scrying - cheap tutor for ANY land, great tempo card for T2 to plan onwards or search for appropriate tool at any stage of game.
- Warping Wail - cheap, multipurpose card. It always finds a target at multiplayer table, removing utility dork, countering winning sorcery spell or even giving more mana for next turn.
- Bind - can disrupt fetches, stationary tutors or even some infinite-mana combos. It also replaces itself so has a lot of benefits but doesn't fit every meta.
- Beast Within - the best removal in green, nuff said.
- Eldritch Evolution - cheap tutor, good for changing Azusa into Muse or Titania (or anything cheaper). Natural Order allows to search deeper but EE finds colorless creatures (Seer, Duplicant) and is 1 mana cheaper which may matter a lot (Gaddock, Winter Orb etc.)
- Realms Uncharted - the best land tutor currently available for Azusa. LAnd selection has to be carefully thought over to decline opponents' any good choice or to bait them with powerful lands we don't need at a given moment (like Eye of Ugin). Petrified Field should be one of the four lands selected in most cases.
- Harmonize - classic draw spell. Nothing special but effective.
- Momentous Fall - one-time instant draw useful as response to removal. Lifegain portion helps on occassion.
- Selvala's Stampede - it always strengthens board presence and can be used to bait opponents for doing what they do not want. Proficiency in Jedi mind tricks is needed though.
- Tooth and Nail - game-winning spell when cast for Avenger and Craterhoof with some creature count on a board. If not, it brings two most useful creatures at given moment.
- Green Sun's Zenith - single-creature but kind of repeatable tutor. Crucial for T2 Azusa and becomes better and better the more mana is on a board.
- Chord of Calling - instant speed and ability to discount makes in the best creature tutor for aggro-control decks.
- Genesis Wave - another game-winning spell (with little luck on player's side). Ideal a turn after landing Avenger or Embodiment of Insight.
There are artifacts and enchantments even most dedicated Azusa deck can't do without. Their selection is thin as they cannot be reliably searched for but they change a course of game when drawn into.
Carpet of Flowers - purely a meta call if there's a lot of UX decks around. Enables Turn 2 Azusa and ramps even more the later in a game.
Thaumatic Compass - replacement for the above if blue decks are scarce in a meta. It's very solid card which both ramps and turns into a land itself pretty fast.
Survival of the Fittest - cheap tutor and engine in one card, no suprise it's on the reserved list. Beside tutoring it enables cycling creature cards for graveyard shenanigans, even in mono-green. Most notable are using Artisan to reanimate dumped fatty or shuffle graveyard into library with Kozilek. Panglacial Wurm is also its close friend.
Sylvan Library - draw 3 instead of 1? Count me in. Life loss may hurt but Azusa should be able to kill others long before killing itself especially when Library appears on Turn 2.
Crucible of Worlds - enables playing lands from graveyard which is extremely powerful in Azusa. Getting 3+ more mana each turn is something other decks cannot keep up with.
Horn of Greed - drawing cards for playing lands is even stronger than above as with 50 land count it draws into more lands anyway with non-land cards following. Having this and Crucible/Ramunap both on table is gamebreaking.
Oblivion Stone - most reliable mass removal for green decks. 8 mana is easy to reach in Azusa and losing few creatures after using a Stone is nothing when our mana base remains intact.
Song of the Dryads - turning dangerous commander or oppressive card into a Forest is priceless. Cannot be used at instant speed unless Mosswort Bridge helps but it's still a card that can change a game.
Birthing Pod - it's often a good thing to prepare a deck in such way to benefit from this card as much as possible. Avenger into Craterhoof is the most explosive combination this deck can do with it but other are strong as well. Even Azusa can turn into four support creatures.
Greater Good - best with Panglacial Wurm and any of eldrazi titans. With proper setup it can mill though entire library. Also doubles as anti-exile removal protection.
more to come...
Oct 5, 2017Artaud posted a message on Razaketh - Consistent Mikaeus + Triskelion Combo (initial phase)I may be little late with a comment but since we both like Black I'll be happy to help.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
First of all I would go with some token-makers rather than self-recurring creatures. Weaponcraft Enthusiast, Sengir Autocrat and Ophiomancer come in mind. That way you can focus on sacrifice effects with Ashnod's Altar, Diabolic Intent and Gravepact to support your ramp and control. Don't forget about Cathodion and Su-Chi (if you have one). Your plan is to win the turn you cast Razz so you need as many creatures to sac as possible to find your combos and ramp to cast them.
Second - you don't need Triskelion - Ballista is enough. Remember you can sac it with Razz as many times as your life permits and find another sac outlet (Viscera Seer). Overeager Apprentice will help you discard your combo pieces for reanimation if you'll draw them.
Third - go with more permanent protection stuff like Defense Grid rather than single-card discards. Hope of Ghirapur is your best friend against decks with blue.
I'm tempted to build Razz myself but I know I will get bored with him eventually. Control is the way to go in mono-black!
Oct 2, 2017I'm building Sram deck myself and I still wonder how much reliable this combo is and if I should include any alternative ways to win. As I see it, the most wins should come from Aetherflux Reservoir with Paradox Engine + Flickering Ward backup plan. Each requires additional setup though - cost reducers for the first one and white mana producers for the other. While having both makes deck faster these setups and are mutually exclusive to each other and occupy separate slots which limits other cards choices. Which worries me.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
I've also been thinking about all that cheap equipment we load onto a board when digging for combos and how to utilise it beside Ironworks and Clock of Omens. I found:
- Barricade Breaker - it costs nothing to cast and can beat face hard, with trample equipment especially
- Metalwork Colossus - like the above but can also return for more beatdown when killed
- Arcbound Crusher, Golem Foundry - both work in similar way as Reservoir
- Crackdown Construct - with Shuko, Lightning Greaves or Puresteel Paladin it kills with one hit
- Inspiring Statuary - enables casting big spells, colorless especially (Eldrazi) and also helps with commander tax
- Serra Ascendant, Loxodon Warhammer, Genju of the Fields - help to get to 50+ life before casting Aetherflux
Is any of the above viable as alt wincon or support?
Sep 26, 2017It's time for more changes but first let's look at potential replacements from Ixalan:Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
- Arguel's Blood Fast / Temple of Aclazotz - twice as cheap Erebos (barring indestructibility and LG block) with an option to turn into life-gaining sac outlet looks promising. I tend to loose a lot of life during a game so it can transform pretty often. Worth a try.
- Kitesail Freebooter - little bigger and flying Mesmeric Fiend / Brain Maggot. It doesn't exile creature cards but they are the least of my worries. Mass discard outlets trump it though.
- Revel in Riches - new version of Black Market is both better and worse. Great in creature heavy matchups and useless against spellslingers and combos. Will not make a cut probably.
- Ruthless Knave - ramping sac outlet is what I was looking for. Activation cost may be high but profits seem even higher. Worth testing.
- Vraska's Contempt - Hero's Downfall is 1 mana cheaper but exile clause tempts. No reason to run both though and lower CMC wins here.
- Ruin Raider - such effects can kill me faster than opps so "it will not cut".
- Dowsing Dagger - giving opponent sac fodder is not wise and having to connect with a creature is not a way of this deck.
- Thaumatic Compass - not bad but Liliana's better
- Conqueror's Galleon - not enough creatures to Crew
As for changes I'm going to reduce manabase to 34 lands and fit in Torpor Orb. I have only 3 ETB creatures so it won't affect me as much as the others. Some ETB effects are too powerful to let them go. I also think about cutting Magus of the Will as it's only good for late game and even then it's too slow with tapping requirement. Oblivion Stone and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon are also taken into consideration for cuts. I like my enchantments to stay on board.
Sep 26, 2017Artaud posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer BanlistPosted in: Commander Rules Discussion ForumQuote from LouCypher »Wait there's a new banlist update? Where is it?
Sep 26, 2017You said to have issues with non-basic land count and cannot add more of them but you still run couple of lands that do not contribute to the game plan in any way. I'm saying Arcane Lighthouse, High Market, Mystifying Maze and Tower of the Magistrate. Are they a meta call?Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
Sep 25, 2017How about:Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
- Empyrial Plate - makes Kefnet two turn clock
- Stubborn Denial, Force Away, Spell Rupture, Icy Blast - Kefnet fits power requirement for these spells
- Halimar Depths, Radiant Fountain, Skyline Cascade - work with land return effect
Kefnet seems like a spellslinger commander so I would consider using instant/sorcery cost reduction outlets (Baral, Primal Amulet).
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