MTG Salvation

Best version of UWR to play? Geist midrange, Resto/Kiki Control, or straight control with Keranos?

Since I don't want to start a new thread for this....

Disregarding price, which one of these (2013) decks would be funnest to play for someone that has never played commander? I haven't played standard since before rotation. But I typically like to play tempo if possible, or control. I have plenty of cards to tweak them. But I'm just not sure where to start. I'm leaning towards esper or bant, but wouldn't mind some advice. Part of me also wants to get Grixis because true name nemesis will keep going up.

As someone who is self employed, and has many friends that are self employed, I can honestly say that for the most part it is consumers that are the scumbags.

Everybody wants something for nothing.

Augur is fine. He provides you value preboard, and postboard you cut him if you are dropping below ~20 targets for him. You just need to play to his strengths.

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What do you guys think is a good price to pick up shocks right now? Ive been buying up any blue ones for less than 2.7 tix. Not sure if I should up it to 3 tix and just load up or not.

Also, should I dump my reckoners or hold them? Not even sure what they are going for but I'm not using them.

I ended up bailing on this deck and made a last minute audible to Bant Auras for a PTQ yesterday. I dropped at 1-2, which had me feeling like I couldn't have done any worse with this deck so that was a bummer.

A good portion of the decks I saw were Junk Aristocrats, which makes me think this deck needs to adapt to stay competitive, but I'm not sure where to go. My initial reaction is to go to 4 colors, which is risky; but gives us some real removal, which is what we are really lacking.

I'm leaving for vacation in a couple of days, so I won't be able to test anything until I get back. But if anyone wants to test at a small tournament this is what I'll be starting with when I get back:



The manabase is probably a little rough, but I just threw it together in the last 20 minutes. The sideboard also probably needs changed as I didn't take the time to figure out how many slots need to come in an out for each MU.

That might be true, but the hyper aggressive decks were a small part of the Meta, and Naya is potentially the biggest part, if we base it on this past weekends top 8's.

If I stick with this deck, this is the list I'm currently at, for anyone who cares:

I'm not sure if that would even be enough. They have so many creatures that cause problems all the way up the curve. I have a ptq this weekend, and I'm trying to decide if I should jump ship, or just hope I avoid the MU; but that seems like a risky proposition considering its the new "hot deck".

I've been wondering the same thing with all the naya decks popping up

Anybody have any thoughts on if this mana base would be too greedy?

2 Moorland Haunt
4 Breeding Pool
1 Ghost Quarter
4 Glacial Fortress
3 Hallowed Fountain
3 Hinterland Harbor
1 Island
3 Sunpetal Grove
4 Temple Garden

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Hey guys, I'm still testing this deck, and plan to stick with it through the upcoming PTQ season.

My only troubles recently have been with Junk Rites and occasionally Esper control, depending on the build.

Can you guys post your Sideboard plans for me.

I'd like to see how many cards you guys are dedicating to each match, and what your taking out for them.

This is my current board.
2 Dispel
1 Dissipate
2 Deathrite shaman
1 Clone
1 Stolen Identity
2 Supreme Verdict
2 Renounce the Guilds
3 Feeling of Dread
1 Runechanters Pike

In the Reanimator match, I am not really liking the Deathrite Shamans. I find that the opposing Shamans make it difficult to get any value with it. Also, usually Purify the Grave is a Time Walk for 1 white, as its unexpected, but obviously Shaman works a little differently.

Anyways, thoughts are welcome!

Getting "set" on sideboard plans is generally a risky thing to do, but I'll show you the things I consider taking in and out for most MU's. I don't usually do all of it, but they are the things I potentially change, depending on what I see from my opponent and whatnot.


In general I will start to take out Augur's before I lower my total Instant/Sorcery count by 4 or more. He gets a lot worse when you get down below 22.

I didn't have Geist in my SB on Tuesday, just leaning towards adding him moving forward. I considered the poor interaction of Renounce and Smiter, but I knew he was bringing in Voice so I just was hoping it wouldn't come up, and it didn't.

I have a PTQ coming up on the 8th, and Reanimator is the only (popular) MU I'm not real confident in so I'm really hoping I come up with something that makes it better.

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I do agree Taking out Deathrite shamans is the right idea but why not 3 Geist and no Extra Pike or another Smiter.

No matter how many pikes we have even if we pay 2 life to scour on 1, drop pike on 2, Geist on 3 , equip and swing on 4 with Azorius Charm for Lifelink? We will have what 4 cards in the grave at most in a perfect world? So swing for 10? Why not have a Courage for a guaranteed 8 damage with 4 of it lifelink or another Smiter to drop on 4 after the Geist etc.

So overall question Why not add a 3rd Geist/3rd Unflinching Courage/2nd Smiter if Aggro is the plan?

Also I'm curious,why did you bring in a Renounce The Guilds vs Reanimator? Last I checked they have Slime,Angel,Thragtusk? Is there another card in your meta? Or was it straight Deadbridge Chant hate?

The pike is more relevant when you are attacking in to acidic slimes, and its better with a knight token and moorland haunt. It may be better to just play 3 smiters instead of any geists so we don't have to work as hard to protect him, but I'm not sure on that yet.

I brought in renounce the guild because my opponent was maindecking at least 2 sin collectors, and I'm pretty sure he boarded in a third and at least 3 voice of resurgence. In the top 8 he also mulched an obzedat. I don't think I would bring in 2, and if my new sideboard stays intact I'm not sure I would bring in the first, but it seemed better than what I was cutting.

Your better off putting them on craigslist. At a cost of $80 you need to get about $102 to break even on ebay.