Both are vulnerable to Mindbreak Trap, Leyline of Sanctity, and most other storm hate like Canonist. The Gravestorm one is additionally vulnerable to Leyline of the Void/Rest in peace/judiciously used single-target grave hate, while Banefire requires a ridiculous amount of mana and is foiled by a few rarely-seen infinite life combos. Both are obviously inferior to the current builds that can choose between Tendrils of Agony and Empty the Warrens.
In conclusion, play what you want.
I do see what your point is, after the first game i would be changing the way i would be winning. I just want for the first game what would may be better. All storm decks can lose to Mindbreak Trap. I don't have much money and i want to make a deck for cheap and be good. I know storm can be good and cheap to make. I could use Tendrils of Agony but not a big fan of it.
Traditionally, you'd go for 4 bogardan hellkite. A weaker strategy (because it is susceptible to instant removal and blockersl) could involve getting out a few dragons with haste (or Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund and a few others).
As far as winning, I doubt it is competitive. You probably won't win (or top 8) a scg open with it, for example.
I am just wanting to win some local games that is all. I thought about using Hunted Dragon with bogardan hellkite. I mostly play on line and not sure if the idea will do on it or not. I don't want to win through the normal storm way.
I have been look up storm decks and i want to see what people think of the cards i think would be possible be way to win. I thought of Bitter Ordeal,Ignite Memories or Banefire. I have looked up the cards and i think that all the cards do have a chance of wining a game and i know that the first time you play the deck no one will see it coming, The only issue i am having is the Sideboard. I have the combo for the Empty the Warrens and Goblin Bushwhacker but i want more from it.
I wasn't saying that you should play AnT, (It is awesome but you seem to be doing your own thing). I'm just saying, they seem to have the right number of rituals to draw to win cons.
oh ok. I was thinking about using Banefire. But I was not sure.
well that deck i was thinking about making is mono red and has 12 cards that shift through the deck. I want my deck from the main deck and the sideboard to have many ways to win the game.
If you're interested in ratios I'd recommend checking the thread ANT. It may give you some insight.
What i want to make it a storm deck what is mono red because i got the cards for it but if mono black wont cost to much to make i will make it. I want either a different way to win like with the Worldfire and Thragtusk. I even thought of using 3 to 4 different storm cards to win the game but not sure.
If you're already running alot of rituals to speed that combo out then yes Empty the Warrens can be a good backup plan. As for other cards to run in the Sideboard, Pyroblast/Red Elemental Blast can be good if counters are present in your area. Artifact destruction of some flavor can be good if your opponents bring in artfact graveyard hate cards vs you. Maybe Pyroclasm if there are decks like white weenie in your area. Just some ideas.
Thanks for that. I really new to this format and i am taking someone's idea but make some changes. the warrens in the sideboard to make how i win different. I am only using 2 different ritual cards but 16 cards in total to draw cards.
Past in flames will also help your choices, but again rite is great here without question. The real question is what are you trying to do as that affects card choices.
What is the combo? If the combo is Empty the Warrens then Leyline of Sanctity does nothing against you. Or are you going with Goblin Charbelcher or Grapeshot/Tendrils of Agony?
Rite of flame, no question. Both cards only give you +1 mana but Rite is both cheaper to cast and can give more if you cast more of them.
thanks. I have a 12 card SB to make and not sure what i should use. I was thinking about 4 Goblin Bushwhacker and 4 Empty the Warrens but not sure what the last 4 cards should be. I am worried about the card Leyline of Sanctity and not sure what i can do to get around it or just not worry about it and play more mana ramp or more storm.
I do see what your point is, after the first game i would be changing the way i would be winning. I just want for the first game what would may be better. All storm decks can lose to Mindbreak Trap. I don't have much money and i want to make a deck for cheap and be good. I know storm can be good and cheap to make. I could use Tendrils of Agony but not a big fan of it.
I am just wanting to win some local games that is all. I thought about using Hunted Dragon with bogardan hellkite. I mostly play on line and not sure if the idea will do on it or not. I don't want to win through the normal storm way.
i am playing the Travis woo deck in modern.
4 Faithless Looting
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 rite of flame
4 wild guess
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Manamorphose
4 Pyromancer Ascension
4 seething song
that was the idea i started with but i have changed it. I found out id did not like it for legacy. I am going to play it for modern.
oh ok. I was thinking about using Banefire. But I was not sure.
What i want to make it a storm deck what is mono red because i got the cards for it but if mono black wont cost to much to make i will make it. I want either a different way to win like with the Worldfire and Thragtusk. I even thought of using 3 to 4 different storm cards to win the game but not sure.
Thanks for that. I really new to this format and i am taking someone's idea but make some changes. the warrens in the sideboard to make how i win different. I am only using 2 different ritual cards but 16 cards in total to draw cards.
I am going to play Past in Flames. I am using Faithless Looting, Pyromancer Ascension, Wild Guess and Reforge the Soul.
the main part of the deck is Worldfire Flame Jab and Spellweaver Helix. Then I change those 12 cards out and not sure what i should put in. I want to play Brain Freeze but not sure or Grapeshot.
thanks. I have a 12 card SB to make and not sure what i should use. I was thinking about 4 Goblin Bushwhacker and 4 Empty the Warrens but not sure what the last 4 cards should be. I am worried about the card Leyline of Sanctity and not sure what i can do to get around it or just not worry about it and play more mana ramp or more storm.