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  • posted a message on [Primer] MonoU Tron - "The well-oiled machine"
    @mrdevn

    Quote from mrdevn »
    My big problem with chalice has been that without the usual good matchups for it being common I often feel like it just doesn't accomplish that much. Against discard decks especially I find that vs discard heavy hands it usually just gets taken first, and otherwise my opponent are just playing cards that don't get hit by chalice on 1 and by turn 3/4 I would rather be doing other things besides dropping chalice on 2. My meta seems to favor traditional BGx, eldrazi, and other random grindy decks like fae and tokens, with a smattering of control and combo. As metas go it's a pretty favorable one, I just can't seem to shake the feeling that I'm playing too many cards that aren't impactful enough against the decks I see often. I really like the idea of playing spell pierce, and might throw an extra gemstone back in my board.

    I've been really resistant to playing leylines because I don't like the idea of having a card in my deck that's unstable after t1. I know there's been other discussion of it on here before. If I am playing against a ton of discard is it worth it?

    My playstyle tends to be to play like a draw go control deck first, then tron. Should I be trying to force early tron more against the kinds of decks I'm seeing? I'm also a fan of keeping land heavy hands, which I could see being a source of my discard woes.

    My current list is:

    I also briefly flirted with Opt, but was underwhelmed.
    Thank you so much for your help!

    That sounds like a meta ripe for U-Tron to be honest as most of what you listed are good MUs. For a little boost against tokens tho I think you'd do well replacing fabricate with trinket mage and jamming an engineered explosives in there. Also, chalice is pretty strong against BGx decks and stopping discard. If they pick off chalice turn 0 with IoK/thoughtsieze that's fine because we have recursion and we're likely to just bury them in card advantage from what they didn't take instead.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] MonoU Tron - "The well-oiled machine"
    I gotta say I'm super surprised about the amount of people that are against trinket mage and walking ballista, especially when they'd rather play fabricate ? The deck is built around getting card advantage off each spell and trinket does exactly that. It replaces a card in your hand, gives you a 2/2 body, and can either tutor a wincon (ballista), hate (chalice), sweeper (explosives), or mana fixing (map). It also allows you to run a bunch of silver bullets out of the sideboard.

    As for mana rocks I love them, but I struggle to find a place in the mainboard to squeeze them in. Already I can't get every spell I want in there and it's not as though the deck every struggles to curve out. That being said I'm up to 2 engineered explosives (1 main, 1 side), and I would loooove some rocks to get it up to CMC 3.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] MonoU Tron - "The well-oiled machine"
    I'm surprised people are so eager to cut chalices. I would give it relevancy in more than 40% of matches as it always feels like it's shutting down something in every deck. The last time I ran Mono U in a tournament people treated it as a card they HAD to answer each time it came out.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] MonoU Tron - "The well-oiled machine"
    Dude..... you draw mindslaver every turn
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on eBay Flash Sale Thread
    These seem pretty sporadic. You'd think the flash sales would align with holidays and such but that doesn't seem to the case at all. Does anyone know if there's an advanced warning that goes out about these?
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on [Primer] Gx Tron
    I generally see mono green running warping wail and walking ballista for removal

    Not much love for beast within but I guess the CMC is high and it doesn't pair so well with Karn
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] MonoU Tron - "The well-oiled machine"
    I've been running 2 Ugin MB for a while now and that feels really, really good.

    I also can't decide between snapcaster and torrential gearhulk. Hulk boy is awesome with dismember, is a fatty, and also fuels thirst. Snap is low cmc to help with the curve and way more versatile. Presently, I'm on snap as I'm trying to cut back on 6+ CMC cards a bit
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] MonoU Tron - "The well-oiled machine"
    Grats Nekros, that list is super cool looking ! I love seeing tech from the past. You definitely have some new options that can replace some of your threats and I think TKOS' advice was pretty on point.

    Personally, I think that life from the loam and gifts ungiven is the best argument for the green splash, it reminds me a lot of the lands.deck tech with intuition. I'm tempted to give it a shot at some point, but as mentioned above the manabase also looks reallyyyy fragile.

    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] Gx Tron
    Quote from molaboy »
    im been losing a lot lately in modo because of terrible matchups (burn, D&T, storm) and i don't see a lot of our usual midrange preys, i noticed that the games i win are mostly those i have turn 3/4 tron and if not, almost 80-90% i will lose. tweaked and tested build but i guess its more on the meta and they really know how to play against us being linear in a way.

    i think we need plan B or C, or maybe an early threat.

    have anybody tested goyf? was thinking of thought-knot but it still expensive to cast under blood moon and goyf can provide some time to ramp to 6-7 mana. was thinking of cutting 2 relic and 2 worldbreakers for 4 goyfs.


    Personally, I think you'd be better off with something like this http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=24513&iddeck=192358
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] Gx Tron
    I don't think there's necessarily one variant that is above the other right now. I've been playing around with all of them and personally, I've found that GB feels exceedingly strong and fun to pilot. The discard MB can really be clutch, and fatal pushing bobs/goyfs/shadows etc feels so much better than PtE and ramping your opponent.

    That being said, GW is really amazing with its options coming out of the sideboard. Leyline is strong right now, blessed alliance is really solid on the life gain both for yourself or against things like grixis shadow (2 for 1'ing a couple death's shadows by giving their health a bump is dirty), and rest in peace speaks for itself.

    GR is also still a very real option, but only if you have the 4 groves in my opinion. They're more relevant than ever in keeping opponents life up when they want it low, and as said above their ability to x for 1 a little army of creatures will never not be good.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Looks like people are already starting to dump Horizon Canopy. NM can currently be had on ebay @50$.

    I'm a little disappointed as I just bought into two of them before they were spoiled, but that card also didn't have much business sitting at 100$.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [Primer] Gx Tron
    Wow I want the heck out of that new o-stone art! And glad I didn't go all in on groves. Been picking them up real slow when I see excellent deals and now I can just wait it out for the 4th.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] MonoU Tron - "The well-oiled machine"
    24 seems right for a deck that's trying to hit land drops every turn. I actually run 25 with a gemstone in the 61st slot
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Primer] MonoU Tron - "The well-oiled machine"
    Anyone have tips for facing lantern control?
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on Best secondary market for purchasing cards?
    Actually, those apps did go a little overlooked so I'm glad you mentioned them again haha. For now, I'll mostly be sticking to MOTL, ebay, and mtg sick deals on facebook, which really does have some great pricing. Not into the idea of pucatrade yet, I'm focused more on specific cards than collection building. In my spare time though, I'll definitely be checking out things like craigslist, both those apps, and flea markets.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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