I understand that the dread is expensive and inkmoth is way better.
All I'm trying to say is, from what I understand, it does not hurt to include it in the deck, considering it takes a land slot and serves as lategame combo piece 9 & 10 with shape anew. It also doesn't come into play tapped, so you can use it right away. The only bad thing about it is that it's a colorless source of mana, and this is the only reason I see it not being able to make the cut.
So yes, obviously you'd rather master's call or inkmoth for the combo, but unless throwing a copy or two of dread really hurts the manabase, I still don't see why no one plays it. I think you guys should consider throwing at least 1 in there.
A 'Plan C' sounds more like hardcasting Blightsteel Colossus, if the game lasts that long.
That's true, but it takes only 8 mana to dread/shape anew. That's still 3 turns faster than hardcasting the colossus.
so I went through my 4 EDH decks and picked the best "hidden gems". A few of them might be more well known than others, but you should definitely consider throwing some of these in your EDH decks next time you're testing it out
1. Skyshroud War Beast
- In a format where nonbasic lands are rampant, this guy's gonna be pretty big.
2. Mindstorm Crown
- This seems perfect for decks that find they're running out of gas quickly.
Does mono-red run this? Seems pretty good when you've got nothing else.
3. Lignify
- Probably already starting to see more use, but just a great removal spell for green,
especially against generals
4. Vampiric Link
- Can negate an opponent's attacking creature or just use it on a fattie
5. Endless Horizons
- This card is really underrated, I don't see it in as many mono-white decks as it should be. For FOUR mana, you can thin out your entire library, making your draws significant, AND guarantee a land drop every turn. Ridiculous...
I'm happy to see how much the deck has progressed, as I love the concept, but I haven't seen anyone using Dread Statuary. Has there been any serious discussion on this? Granted, his activation cost is on the expensive side, but would it really hurt the manabase to throw 1, maybe even 2 of these in a deck as a plan C?
Anyway, loving the decklists, I'm thinking of trying to make a build myself.
Also also, not the greatest card in the world, but Embargo does fit the whole "lets slow this game down to a crawl and get nasty glares from across the table" theme.
I find that their singles are generally a little more overpriced compared to other vendors.
Having said that, they always seem to have everything in stock (in ample amounts) which is really great for the player who doesn't want to hassle around placing orders from multiple places. It's basically convenience at a cost, which is fine for those who enjoy convenience!
I've placed a few orders with them in the past though (they had a surprisingly good price for snow-covered swamps and alot of them) and I've got to say that I've never had any problems with them.
If you don't mind spending a little extra cash next time you're looking for singles, then I highly recommend these guys, because chances are, they'll have it!
All I'm trying to say is, from what I understand, it does not hurt to include it in the deck, considering it takes a land slot and serves as lategame combo piece 9 & 10 with shape anew. It also doesn't come into play tapped, so you can use it right away. The only bad thing about it is that it's a colorless source of mana, and this is the only reason I see it not being able to make the cut.
So yes, obviously you'd rather master's call or inkmoth for the combo, but unless throwing a copy or two of dread really hurts the manabase, I still don't see why no one plays it. I think you guys should consider throwing at least 1 in there.
That's true, but it takes only 8 mana to dread/shape anew. That's still 3 turns faster than hardcasting the colossus.
1. Skyshroud War Beast
- In a format where nonbasic lands are rampant, this guy's gonna be pretty big.
2. Mindstorm Crown
- This seems perfect for decks that find they're running out of gas quickly.
Does mono-red run this? Seems pretty good when you've got nothing else.
3. Lignify
- Probably already starting to see more use, but just a great removal spell for green,
especially against generals
4. Vampiric Link
- Can negate an opponent's attacking creature or just use it on a fattie
5. Endless Horizons
- This card is really underrated, I don't see it in as many mono-white decks as it should be. For FOUR mana, you can thin out your entire library, making your draws significant, AND guarantee a land drop every turn. Ridiculous...
6. Infernal Tribute
- A nice sacrifice outlet for mono black.
7. Aphetto Dredging
- Efficient for tribal, though there are arguably better recursion effects
8. Imp's Mischief
- In a 40 life format, losing the life is well worth the effect. So great and unexpected!
9. Tarnished Citadel
- Super secret tech with Darien, King of Kjeldor
and finally, the best super secret awesome tech for EDH ever...
10. Wellspring
- Do I really need to explain this one? It's wellspring!
Anyway, loving the decklists, I'm thinking of trying to make a build myself.
Keep up the good work guys!
Also, Pendrell Mists for budget Tabernacle.
Also also, not the greatest card in the world, but Embargo does fit the whole "lets slow this game down to a crawl and get nasty glares from across the table" theme.
Having said that, they always seem to have everything in stock (in ample amounts) which is really great for the player who doesn't want to hassle around placing orders from multiple places. It's basically convenience at a cost, which is fine for those who enjoy convenience!
I've placed a few orders with them in the past though (they had a surprisingly good price for snow-covered swamps and alot of them) and I've got to say that I've never had any problems with them.
If you don't mind spending a little extra cash next time you're looking for singles, then I highly recommend these guys, because chances are, they'll have it!