MTG Salvation

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An even more comprehensive role list here. Peek at your own risk.

There's an Azwolg role in the second post.

I'm still laughing at thought of the role jumping to another site.

That's classic.

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When you wrote "eye" instead of "I" when replying to Vampyr (I'd search for it but MTGS can't search for words under four letters for some reason) I thought it was kind of a dead giveaway, but that's something you had to be looking for, probably.

Oh yeah, this.

I got the hint when atlseal posted it, knowing, at that time, no one else would. But I figured down the line it'd be a dead give away.

I thought posting it as "I" would have worked and maybe wouldn't have been so easy to pick up on.

But eh, it worked well enough.

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Also, ironically, Vampyr's targeting me with his lure N1 worked better than had I been able to send it through to dkd.

Why's that? Just to be able to trust a role that wards people away?

Yay, Town!

Great game, Dagger. I had a lot of fun, even if I did sorta disappear at times.

@atleasl: You said that you thought I might have guessed what was going on. Actually I had no clue. When I first received the eye, I didn't know what to make of it, my first thought was that you were a watcher. And I wasn't sure if that was a good thing or not, figuring it might be possible for a mafia watcher to be around looking for power roles.

When DYH came out he was a tracker, I felt that it was very likely you were a watcher and most likely town aligned. To find out you were a full cop was a bit surprising.

@Axel: So what was it that had you on my case for most of the game?

@TFF: Why didn't you lie about me targeting you? With me in the game, there was no way you were going to win the game. The last thing I expected was you to be the SK after not taking that chance to mislynch me.

I thought Eco played an excellent game. Never for a moment suspected him as scum.

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It was a joke. Basically, I have nothing to do tonight, but I could, just for the heck of it, pass my Jade Artifact, which would then go to you.

I'll probably do it anyway, just to show I'm not doing anything else.

Sounds fine.

Will revote once Sep comes in and says whatever he needs to say.

Unvote

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Do you want my Jade Artifact!

Are you saying this as indicating that I don't want it or do want it?

I'm confused.

My bad, should have done that in my last post.

Vote: Ecophagy

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Sounds good to me.

I believe Vampyr should lure Axelrod, and I will cop either Magwald or Sep.

This sounds best to me.

No need to go overboard with killing en masse tonight. The town is ahead of the curve.

I will lure Axel rod again tonight.

Don't like how Sepiriel voted. Doesn't matter if there is no chance for a surprise hammer, shouldn't be throwing votes out there like that where there is a great deal the town has to talk about.

Don't care for TFF's plan. Guess I was wrong about him.

Also don't understand what Axel's desire is to live to the end game. Who cares if you die now, Night 1 or not at all? All of the town wins or loses together. I'm starting to get the feeling Axel is a neutral role.

@TFF: the only way the game won't end with Eco's death is if there's another mafia member or a SK left alive. If you, as a neutral survivor, fail to fulfill your WC when all the mafia team and SK are eliminated, I can't see there being a reason the game continues, since the town wins. You simply lose. Am I missing something here?

First fadeblue and now arimnaes.

This section has been blessed with excellent moderators. And it's hard watching them move on. It's very much like watching a good and trusted friend move across the country. You know they'll be well, but damned if it doesn't suck watching them go.

Good luck with all that you do in that crazy real world, arim. It's a great ride, especially when you don't have to worry about someone trying to stick a knife in your back.

I have no doubts that Az, as a mod, and Raf, as a council member, will perform admirably as arim's replacements.

But I'd be wary of Raf, he's a dodgy one.

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Not that I really think it will matter (I certainly hope not) but can't you see even a small amount of utility, Vamp. in having the possible scum believe I was still in possession of that kill?

No, not particularly.

I don't care if scum know I have it. If they want to pop me to get rid of it, GREAT!

If they go after you and it's revealed you don't have it, then it looks suspicious as to why I didn't speak up earlier.

I see no reason not to come forward with this at this point in the game. The more resources the town knows that is at their disposal, the better off it is.

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The reason you got it is because I decided to pass the 1-shot last Night instead of using it. So, via your ability, I was redirected to you (no, you weren't who I actually chose). And the reason I decided to pass it, was in the event of my very possible death last Night, the shot would still be available for someone else to potentially surprise the scum with when they weren't expecting it.

Ok, reasonable explanation. And I don't see what good a surprise factor is at this point of the game. If this was Night 1, then I'd totally agree with you. The scum are on the ropes right now. We don't need surprise, we need to finish them off.

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Plus, if I didn't die, I was kind of hoping that the person who ended up with it would speak up for me if it looking like I was in danger of getting lynched today. As, in my humble opinion, my possession of that particular item, unused, ought to say something for me.

I will grudgingly admit that it is a point in your favor. I highly doubt the scum team had two one shot kills.

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Like, I guess you can construct scenarios for why I'd still have that, as scum, this late, but I think you'd have to stretch pretty far to get there. Vamp can confirm there are no restrictions of any kind on that follower. It's 1-shot, dead.

I can confirm there are no restrictions.

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Basically, if we are still playing, TFF could shoot Raf. My vig shot could get used on TFF. That would clear both of them out.

I have to chuckle at this.

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EBWODP:

@Vampyr: Since you are around, care to share the debauchery you partook in last night?

Yeah, yeah, I'm a bit busy with a few things. I'm catching up in parts with what's been posted. (I'll reiterate how much I despise people calling others out like this. Posting happens when posting happens. Someone saying "ohh so and so is viewing the thread, hope they post" isn't going to make them post any fast. /rant off)

Don't worry, I have every intention of coming forward with what I did last night.

I targeted Axel last night. And I got his one shot vig.

So how was I able to pull that off, Axel, with your Jade artifact supposedly preventing people with monkeying with your Items?

I will confirm that the name of it is equal to the number of *'s Axel used in his claim. But for now I won't name it either.

I'm not sure how this all makes me feel about Axel. I was suspicious of him for his repeated attempts to push a wagon on me, which is why I targeted him. I had a more town read on Eco. But it seems as if Axel wasn't completely honest with his claim.

Happy to vote Eco when necessary, but I would counsel caution with too much voting with Arcadic having an unknown amount of votes.

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To avoid crossfire/hitting atlseal's target, I'll just say it's my current intention to shoot TFF tonight, unless I hear people jumping up and down screaming I shouldn't.

I'll go through the motions of being ignored.

I'm against TFF being shot, still.

Not real enthused about Axel failing to full claim the name of his items.

You think you have an item that makes the scum more concerned over it when both the doc and cop having been revealed?

@TFF: I knew something was fishy.

I targeted atlseal Night 1 because, and I stated this Day 1, I didn't think he was doing much scum hunting. I felt he was flying under the radar and my first thought was he was the SK.

I have to chuckle at Axel STILL working on trying to have me killed in some way when he's the only one that's had a negative read on me for the past game day or two.

If RR flips scum, I feel better about Sepiriel and I'd consider him highly likely to be town.

I'm still not sold on shooting TFF. I think Raf should hit Sep if RR flips town. If RR flips scum, I think he should shot Shalako to prevent a kill.

And I think those who haven't claimed should do so.