MTG Salvation

• slieght of hand
  
• peek
  
• dismember
  
• faithless looting
  
• thought scour
  
• apostle's blessing
  
• smash to smithereens
  
• aven mindscensor
  
• monastery mentor
  
• geist of saint traft
  
• slip through space
  
• magmatic insight
  
• gideon, ally of zendikar
  
• manamorphose
  
• boros charm
  
• twisted image
  
• thing in the ice
  
• temur battlerage
  
• lava spike
  
• skullcrack
  
• rift bolt
  
• grim lavamancer
  
• delver of secrets
  

Quote from Andrewi82 »

Hi all! My name is Ian Andrew, I'm the one who had the 15th place finish at GP Dallas. So happy to have found this thread. I'm always looking for new ideas and to discuss the deck with others that may have other insight on different lines of play or ideas on card selection. Really cool to see people dedicated to a color combination as fun as this one.

Quote from RafiqEDH »

I agree with the learning to play By Situation vs On Curve.

Our deck really does not want to tap out if we can avoid it, I do it for my Planeswalkers but i generally have an answer to a creature the following turn and there isn't many spells that i worry about. For us in modern since we do not have that free counterspell in the form of Force of Will like our Legacy counter part we need to make sure we can protect the little amount of threats we have. It may seem appealing to jam our creatures if we have them but then we are left wide open.. We can no longer control the board or what the opponent casts, we have left ourselve vulnerable for a 2/3 or 4-for 1 in the form of a board wipe, and if we are facing something like land destruction or prison decks are loose our resources.

Personlly i think most of our lists should not have more then probably 2 threats on board at a time due to our limited amount of creatures, the only time i can see wanting more is if we are running a Hyper aggro list where we could have 2 Swiftspear & Delver on board by T2 and deal 11 dmg with 1 Probe and a Mutagenic.

Outside of our obbvious plays of T1 delver we almost always play "off curve", we know our Snapcaster's are at least a T3 to generate value, I don't normally cats Pyromancer until T3+ unless i can generate value with a Probe on T2 and even then this can be ify. I have slammed a geist on T3 though but this is because i have either A) probed first and know a Board wipe isnt coming, or B) i know my opponent does not run Boardwipes.. in the cases where they do (I.E our UW control player) my geist is generally not cast until way late in the game as i want him to stick.

I believe Curbros has said this before but our deck is probably the hardest to master and this is a good reason why, we want to be aggressive, while also remaining in control requiring us to read the situation and know when to turn the corner.. this is truly what tempo means.

Quote from GofyTomcat1 »

So after 2 months on Boros, I'm back.
I wanna revive the Rifles. As much as I love Boros, I miss my Geists and Stormchasers. I miss Bolt-Snap-Bolt and having Serums to help fix draws. And I miss this forum.

Any ideas on how to make a burn heavy Jeskai Prowess deck viable again?

-Gofy

Quote from Mazereon »

Did you have problems activating colonnade or has it ever been an issue for you because it enters the bf tapped?
I guess you are running 19 lands, but still. 5 mana is a lot to pay, I consider you are playing the deck more burn-ish, tapping out on your turn to get through dmg with your prowess creatures but how often do you want to activate colonnade to get in dmg? Most of the time we have better ways of utilizing our mana.
I did run fumarole for some time but I wasn't really impressed, it wasn't as big of a hindrance as many think but I didn't activate it very often and even 4 mana felt much at times.

Quote from RafiqEDH »

Alright so I got to get some testing in last night and i even picked up a copy of Elspeth, Knight-Errant before testing. All 3 deck's i faced ended up being Jank brews that easily have destroyed T1 decks at our LGS tournaments and i went 3-0 against them. Decks I faced were:

- Kiki-Control. This deck does what it's name suggests, it controls the board till it can combo with Kiki
- Modern Energy. Hard to explain this 1 but it's goal is Emrakul
- Unknown name. I cannot give this one a name, it does alot of control and has an alternate Archangel of Thune combo win

Since all of these decks are jank they are not your typical lists you may find online, however i have seen these decks go toe to toe (and win) against Bant Eldrazi, Jund, Dredge, Scapeshift, Infect etc.

Deck Notes:
It has felt more smooth and more in control with what plays i wanted to allow while still representing a very strong threat. Vapor Snag did alot of work, and it is really fun to Vapor Snag a Birds of Paradise stopping the opponents T2 play, or to snag away a Deciever Exarch when they do not have the mana to recast it after casting Kiki.
- Mana Leak as a 2of felt nice, when i had them they did their job, they are still not as good in the late game and the answer to this could maybe be to swap them for Logic Knot.. However i think these would be best in the SB so then you have the Leak Game 1 and if your playing a deck that you know will go into the late game you know your GY can be filled making Logic Knot shine
- Elspeth, Knight-Errant is a house, adding the Sacred Foundry helped me smooth out my mana so her double white is not that hard to get, she also makes an unflipped Delver or a late game delver amazing. Everytime she hit the board she guaranteed i wont that match.. Flying is super strong in the meta right now
- I did not miss the 1 Gitaxian Probe either, i thought loosing 1 cantrip would hurt but it helped me with life preservation and i drew into more useful spells like the snags. Lightning Helix was the same, i did not need the 3rd in the MB, still worth i think having in the SB for decks like burn.
- Young Pyromancer feels at home now with the revised package, when she hit the board she generated value, even 1-2 tokens as little as they seem do enough. They become a detterant for attacking, they are great getting through.. and with Elspeth they are more Delvers
- Chandra, Torch of Defiance She is still my girl. My opponent used Though-knot Seer and decided to let me keep her fearing what else remained in my hand.. I cast her following turn and killed TKS. Also her 2R mana or the exile for a shock still does enough damage. Anyone that has room for the 4CMC walkers i would say she fits better, i run 18 land and casting her is never an issue and i have never had a time to draw her and not want her. Also i had a game where her AND Elspeth were on board at the same time.. this is just fun.

There was 1 game that was odd, i didn't get any of my creature threats till really late in the game and by really late i had atleast 8 land on board and i missed lands drops a couple times, this match was still very easy to deal with, I played the counter war and won, Creatures couldn't remain on the board, i had 100% control over what i wanted to happen.

For reference the deck i was playing is below.

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Creatures 14 4 Delver of Secrets 3 Young Pyromancer 2 Snapcaster Mage 3 Geist of Saint Traft 2 Bedlam Reveler Instant 19 4 Lightning Bolt 4 Path to Exile 3 Vapor Snag 2 Lightning Helix 4 Remand 2 Mana Leak	Sorcery 7 4 Serum Visions 3 Gitaxian Probe Planeswalker 2 1 Chandra, Torch of Defiance 1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant Land 18 3 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 1 Bloodstained Mire 2 Steam Vents 2 Hallowed Fountain 1 Sacred Foundry 1 Glacial Fortress 2 Spirebluff Canal 1 Island 1 Mountain 1 Plains

Quote from CurdBros »

Unfortunately, Ian lost his win and in on table three to finish in 15th place. This is still the best finish the jeskai prowess/delver archetype has had in an american GP and continues the strong momentum for the deck! Soon we will probably move into the Competitive deck section instead of the deck creation section. With two jeskai prowess decks on camera this weekend at the top tables it was a very good weekend for jeskai prowess!