• posted a message on The Eternal Master's list looks EDH amazing
    Quote from d0su »
    Hey guys, remember this gem from 2008?

    Burn spells off-limits; tournament staple countermagic and cheap library manipulation OK!!


    Given the card selection, rarity bumps, and MSRP of this product, I think you can just throw any assumptions that its not because they want to print money right out the window.

    This is essentially wizards cashing in on the secondary market while trying to refrain from adjusting the price tag of the secondary market cards too much.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Survival of the Fittest
    Its a really strong card. I own two of them as well but honestly, outside of the people who are comboing with it I think its a strong card but I dont think its ban worthy.

    If you are playing high end competitive combo, then you can throw my comment out the window but if you are using it to have the right creature for the right situation you have built your deck with a heavy amount of creatures and plan to toolbox. I think that is fine.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on Library of Alexandria
    Quote from cryogen »
    I don't even think price/availability is enough justification. PBtE is an outdated concept and the format has grown so large with so much information overload that the risk of scaring someone away for seeing Power isn't the threat it used to be.

    I understand the reasons given in the OP (except for ODice whom I disagree with), and know it won't change, but I still disagree with them.


    I dont think its about scare factor so much as bringing up the expected price of every deck. I have similar feelings towards moxen where yes, they would be super dumb powerful but my primary concern if they were unbanned is that it would add that cost to every single deck. Library feels a little bit like that for me while I own several cards in this current price range it could easily pass $1000.00 price tag if it became a staple of every commander deck. (assuming it would be as widespread used as the RC claims it probably would be).
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on The Eternal Master's list looks EDH amazing
    ring ring..... ring ring.... ring ri,

    Him: Hello?
    Me: Is this mr Skybreaker?

    Him: Why yes it is.
    Me: Please stop....
    Him: Stop what?
    Me: You know.... just stop




    In all reality, I feel like wizards does try somewhat hard to make the overall expected value of these sets sort of close to what the cost of the box is. Its kind of annoying given how much they cost but I think their goals are twofold on increasing supply as well as providing a set to draft. Their overall goal seems to be to not tank secondary market prices which seems kind of vexing because I feel like they really play with the numbers and make it so that the expected value from these is that there is a potentially a very small amount of value made in opening these but then when combined with price drops due to supply usually it seems a little upsidown.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Library of Alexandria
    Quote from Jurak »
    But guys, do you think it is correct to administrate the banlist based on the secondary market and the individual value of cards? Just seems so wrong to me Frown


    The problem is that while its $450.00 right now, its like also banned / restricted in most formats so this is like..... the low price lol. I think to some degree cards like Mishra's Workshop and The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale stay unbanned because they belong in specific types of decks. Library is potentially like add it to everything if you can sort of a card.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on Library of Alexandria
    Personally, the only valid reason to keep this banned is the price tag and availability. I feel it might be strong but at the same time I dont think its so strong that it would need to be banned.

    I think the same arguments could be made about several other expensive cards but this one has for it that it can be inserted into any color of deck with the same impact. I would be fine if it came off the banned list but its price would probably soar so high that it would be over $1000 so at the same time I guess I am ok to keep it banned. Personally, I would rather see it out and about but I also understand why it is banned.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on General Discussion of the Official Duel Commander Banlist
    Quote from kwiznek »
    why isn't this in the duel commander sub forum?


    Because multiplayer commander may be the primary way in which commander gets played but how many areas need to be reserved just for multiplayer commander? It is assumed that unmarked threads are multiplayer commander but there should be no reason that DC or other variant ways of playing commander cant use these areas.

    Think about it this way, if DC were to ever scale up its traffic it would make posting all of its content within its subforum awkward because things would get bumped off page quickly. It is good to set up these sort of things for any and every format of commander able to use them because of this.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on The Eternal Master's list looks EDH amazing
    Quote from Taco_Tuesday »


    Which explains Wrath of God instead of Damnation.


    Clearly due to the secondary market monetary value of Damnation it should be a mythic trollface
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on The Eternal Master's list looks EDH amazing
    Quote from metalevolence »

    AT LEAST RORIX BLADEWING IS FINALLY GETTING A MUCH-NEEDED REPRINT

    Facepalm


    For the little it is worth, its actually a very good limited bomb.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Life1ess »
    Or the Sarlacc pit.


    Ooo ooo I got this one :p

    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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