I have actually cut more and more board wipe protections over time. The issue I had with with these effects was that they are pretty much useless draws most of the game and you need to have the mana open in case someone casts a board wipe. 2 mana was okay but for 3 mana protections I mostly had to keep the mana open and not play anything else and if no one wiped the board I wasted one rotation doing nothing.
Instead I now play some more card draw and recursion effects, they help rebuild the board after a board wipe and drawing them during any point of the game almost never feels bad. But as you already mentioned, the best option are definitely creatures for board protection, you can just play them out and pop them if needed. No useless cards sitting in hand and the need to keep mana open.
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Usagi posted a message on Edgar Markov - Low Mana Curve BuildPosted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists -
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ctaylor33 posted a message on [[Primer]] Jenara - The ETB Bant ArmyWell said. I agree. Thank you!Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists -
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Trav_Ragnar posted a message on [[Primer]] Jenara - The ETB Bant ArmyWith the forums closing soon, just want to say this is probably still my favorite deck I've played in EDH. It very well encapsulates a aggressive control style, and the commander is very impactful.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
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Spacebeest posted a message on Edgar Markov - Low Mana Curve BuildI still feel like I want to drop the vampire curve lower if possible so I'm going to cut a two drop. Mainly because it feels better to play two one drops instead of one two drop because we then have 4 bodies. I also think we have the card draw to support this play style. However I'm not sure yet what the right mana curve is for Edgar so I might change my mind on this in the future. Anyway It's an upgrade over some of our other one drops for sure!Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
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From the two drop I consider these good enough:
Dusk Legion Zealot -> drawing a card is worth the second mana
Cruel Celebrant -> because of wraths, and because pings all opponents
Legion Lieutenant -> lord is worth the second mana (even third mana I guess)
The two drops i'm not sure about if they are worth the extra mana:
Bloodghast -> I changed my mind about him after clamping him 5 times in one game (mainly due to fetches). But games without clamp it didn't feel worth the second mana.
Olivia's Bloodsworn -> I used to find the haste very useful but since dropping the curve I often don't have one red to spare. Therefore mainly good because of flying, and could maybe be replaced by a one drop with flying.
Blood Artist -> If a board wipe happens with 8 + vampires it deals 8 dmg to one player, that's ok but nothing special in my opinion. Also because it has 0 toughness and no evasion most of the time it's not attacking itself.
Then the two drop that probably in my opinion are not be worth the extra mana:
Bloodthrone Vampire -> I guess only played because of the Zulaports? can be used as a combat trick... but I don't know, on it's own it's nothing special.
Stromkirk Condemned -> it's a semi lord but definatly the worst we have. Also 2 drops that don't require two colored mana go better with sol ring and mana crypt
Tithe Drinker -> yeah well... this just isn’t our best two drop…
Vampire Interloper -> see Olivia’s and its worse.
Blood Seeker is probably great in the right meta, but is not in mine. If it's good it's worth the second mana though.
Dark Confidant
Zulaport Cutthroat
Arn't vampires but support cards so I'll leave them out of the discusion.
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Gwendlyn Di Corci
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Inalla, Archmage Ritualist
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By HellboundKsu (11/15) [<$100]
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By Galspanic (02/13) [4P]
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By Gaka (02/14) [1v1]
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By GFireflyE (05/18)
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By BigAngryDragon (03/12)
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By fly135 (02/11)
By Soultron (12/10)
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By Krimsonmask (01/18) [PR]
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By Manite (10/16)
By jppeters (07/16) [1v1]
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By IMProgenitus (01/18) [2P]
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By Sirjoshd109 (10/16) [1v1]
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By Daban (12/15) [DUEL]
By Elyphant (12/15)
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By Slashoom (08/15)
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By Affaltar (08/16)
By Magnivore (12/15)
By Trepsik (11/15)
By GORKnotMORK (10/15)
By KiL0 (07/15)
By Liberator (07/15) [1v1]
By cryogen (04/15)
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By Manite (10/17)
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By mehall (09/14)
By Akashortstack (10/13)
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By bone_doc (03/11)
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By WizardMN (07/18)
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By BlackVise (01/18)
Xira Arien
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By Sharock (10/17) [<$100]
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By WizardMN (10/16)
By Galspanic (07/16)
By danissimus (07/16)
By Cappy (06/16)
By InertMaterials (01/16) [2P]
By TribalElfMage (07/15)
By huck (01/15) [4P]
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By WizardMN (11/17)
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By Moxnix (09/16)
By Maelstr0m (08/16)
By Manite (07/16)
By Ensoleille (06/16) [1v1]
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By HansonWK (10/14) [4P] [DUEL]
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Well, still here is a vague stance. I check in every few months mostly to see if I have any PMs but all of my new stuff is over on Nexus these days. Ohhhh Marton lol some of the things I did back then I probably wouldn't subject a playgroup to now lol.
Been doing well, I have a kiddo now days and my wife works a lot of nights when I could normally play commander so due to my child my games have been less frequent. I played some 1v1 against a buddy yesterday and it had been the first time playing in like.... two months.
There was a very long and annoying history when curse owned salvation that mostly the staff of salvation knew but in short in the last two or three years of being owned by curse we got just flat out zero assistance from developers outside of things that outright broke the site. The curse devs created a deckbuilder tool for the site which was the last thing they did and immediately pulled any assistance from the site after creating it never addressing the myriad of bugs that we attempted to report to them on the tool.
After getting zero attention for a few years curse decided to shut down salvation as they didn't feel they could transition it to other owners. The moderator team and tecnician (Feyd_Ruin) tried to reach out to them to attempt to purchase the site from them but were denied. We were told a final closure date of salvation and Feyd_Ruin began to create MTGNexus with a frenzy as we were planning to move at that point.
Feyd was well under way of development and MTGNexus opened publicly as the closure date that was told to us came close. Then, at the absolute last moment a previous developer of curse bought out the rights to a few sites including MTGSalvation. It was really awkward as we knew that salvation had been sort of long neglected at that point and we had already created a new location via Feyd who was actively improving Nexus. On the flip side, Salvation wasn't closing but we had no idea if it was going to be updated (it hasn't) as we moved forward. Essentially all of the staff at the time was pissed and I would say something like 80% of the staff transitioned to Nexus and dropped salvation. Most of the commander players of salvation also transitioned over to nexus but some just moved over to the new discord that the RC set up (the discord is quite active if you are into that style of thing).
So, we got burned a few times and were tired of it. Nexus was set up and we knew Feyd would be active in giving it upgrades where as salvation had grown stagnant and unsure of its future. To some degree though internet forums are becoming less used and instead more social media stuff is being used these days. I like nexus and while I wouldn't call it anywhere near as active as salvation 5-10 years ago it doesn't feel like the ghost town that sally is these days.
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Even with the mana cost being similar to Austere Command, I think that the color intensity is off the chart. I also think that even just one more mana when it comes to anything that costs 4 or more is all increasingly difficult for this deck. We run on a low curve so whenever possible I think its better to curve in lower rather than moving curves up.
Savai Triome is a sweet card. I think there are a lot of decks where it makes sense to run a copy of these tri lands with fetches but unfortunately ETB tapped lands are a problem that get compiled a lot more when you are trying to move fast which this deck is. I think in a budget markov list it could be fine but if you are trying to move as fast as possible I don't think we can justify an always tapped fix land.
Bastion of Remembrance - I don't hate it. Its still a non vampire card but coming with a free body, being cheap, and accomplishing something we want helps to some degree. Hitting each opponent is also a big deal with aristocrat effects. Some of my issues with aristocrats is that I haven't found quite enough density of sac outlets I like. I would LOVE to find another few Bloodthrone Vampire level sac outlets but its so rare that we get anything new that I would put on that level. I tried doing aristocrats recently and I ended up backing off because I didn't feel like I had the sac outlet density I wanted especially for the mana price I was willing to pay for them.
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I did try going down that path a while back and I just found that I couldn't get the consistency out of it that I wanted. I wanted a few more sac outlets and I wanted them to cost a little less as well as a few more payoffs. I think we tend to see some new payoffs but the sac outlets we still struggle with.
Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner its cute but its a non vampire and I think that I would more consider her a five drop because I really wouldn't want to just cast her at three and not activate that ability in the same turn. I think that the cost is a little steep and you might be paying a lot of mana to blow up your hand before drawing cards so it could easily end up with overdrawing after tapping out. I think its interesting but I think I would pass.
I think that all non vampires are things to look at and question in this list. I think there is a time and place for several though. Obviously I have had some good results with several that are in my own list but I think its well worth questioning each. There is a question of how efficient an effect is when its on a nonvampire for this deck though. Anything where it has continued mana costs to maintain and do something is going to be a lot harder to justify in my book than something that is a fire and forget one time mana cost.
If you have a swarm of vampires and they are bigger than 2 power then I think you probably don't need more draw
I think that every meta has different demands that will get you playing a little different with different tech. Dolmen Gate for instance is fantastic if you play against a lot of other go wide decks but it might not be the card you need if your opponents are playing a bunch of sweepers and control.
There is nothing wrong with adjusting your list to fit the meta you play in. Spot removal has its place as well, I just think that it is primarily for must answer things which in my book for this deck are threats that are ending the game if not answered or preventing you from playing. The more of that stuff you see the more answers you need. I have been hating on Swords to Plowshares for a few years now from the standpoint that so many of the must answer threats don't feel like they are creatures anymore. They still exist though and if you see something like an Elesh Norn, Consecrated Sphinx, or Seedborn Muse I am more than happy to have and cast that Swords to Plowshares. I just also feel like I see a lot of combo based things where I would rather have a Disenchant or can't be responded to at all with spot removal (looking at you Thassa's Oracle).
Thanks, I ended up downsizing my collection a little selling off a number of expensive things like going from 4 Mana Crypts to 2 and selling off a lot of duplicate ABU Duels to pay off some debt before my kid was born. I have found it a little harder to have as many active multicolored and or fast decks together after that. Currently my Markov list is not complete but also not put away. I might order a few more Mana Crypts as I do like having another one or two on hand but at that time it was more important to get things payed down. Since then I paid off the house that I sold that I had to take out a loan to cover the sale of, I paid off my car, my student loans, and am within the next few months going to pay off the hospital for my daughter's birth. I am almost debt free so I might be able to pick up some of the things I purged at the time to not be up to my eyeballs in debt lol.
I think I might have responded to this question on Nexus already but I think it is not because I would want 3-4+ as the hit before I feel I would be happy with it. I feel like it would be sort of rare to hit for more than one as it stands and one to two is not a good result in my book.
I agree.
Life is a resource, being an aggro deck generally speaking I usually feel like we haven't been fast enough before my own life total is an issue and by then its hard for a little bit of lifegain to be what keeps us in. Use up the life and move faster. If you run out, its usually because it took too long to kill everyone.
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INTRODUCTION:
So, like many people who have approached Edgar Markov I started out with a build that utilized a lot of vampires that were fairly good standalone (such as Olivia Voldaren). My original build was more about how many bodies I could move through play and it played off of some token generators that were not at all vampire. This first build did have some success but in this first build I kept noticing how good the cheap 1-2 mana vampires felt because of the efficiency they gave me in the amount of bodies for the mana given Edgar Markov's free token.
After having played my original version for a few weeks, I decided I wanted to investigate what a low curve would look like given how good those cheap vampires kept feeling. As I was feeling this concept out I realized that there was a lot of tempo draw that I could use for such a build for refilling my hand and keeping my deck active. With that, my current version took off.
STRATEGY:
Edgar Markov's free tokens generates sooooo much free value when you look at cheap vampires and getting 2 for 1 bodies on top of the natural abilities of the creatures. When I first built a list like most people I had some expensive vampires and I found that all of my cheap vampires just felt SOOOO much better because of the added value of the vampire token. I have built this list with a super low curve to try to take advantage of those free bodies.
The idea of this build is to curve in with very cheap bodies and utilize the power of the anthems. Edgar Markov himself also cares a lot more about having a swarm of creatures. When I first built Edgar I really never cast him because I wasnt swarming with enough creatures for it to really be a good move. Since moving to more of a low curve swarm deck anthems have picked up a TON of value that they did not have for me in my previous build because I was trying to play standalone good vampires. The move has made the deck work so much better I cant even express how much better it feels now.
The other element of running a low curve is that some cards like Dark Confidant and Ad Nauseam care specifically about what the cost to cast cards are. I run a lot of tempo draw as well such as Wheel of Fortune and Null Profusion that play off of being able to curve the hand in and then refill. Skullclamp and Tymna the Weaver are more examples of repeat draw that I run in here and being able to draw those cards cheaply and then move them really keeps the action of a deck like this high.
1 Edgar Markov
CREATURES (39)
1 Changeling Outcast
1 Duskborne Skymarcher
1 Guul Draz Assassin
1 Guul Draz Vampire
1 Indulgent Aristocrat
1 Insolent Neonate
1 Knight of the Ebon Legion
1 Pulse Tracker
1 Quag Vampires
1 Serra Ascendant
1 Shadow Alley Denizen
1 Skymarcher Aspirant
1 Stromkirk Noble
1 Universal Automaton
1 Vampire Cutthroat
1 Vampire Lacerator
1 Vampire of the Dire Moon
1 Vicious Conquistador
1 Viscera Seer
1 Adanto Vanguard
1 Blood Artist
1 Bloodghast
1 Bloodthrone Vampire
1 Cordial Vampire
1 Cruel Celebrant
1 Dusk Legion Zealot
1 Legion Lieutenant
1 Zulaport Cutthroat
1 Captivating Vampire
1 Stromkirk Captain
1 Tymna the Weaver
1 Yahenni, Undying Partisan
1 Bloodline Keeper
1 Iroas, God of Victory
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
1 Sanctum Seeker
1 Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
1 Champion of Dusk
1 Malakir Bloodwitch
1 Chrome Mox
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Diamond
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
1 Arcane Signet
1 Bolas's Citadel
1 Obelisk of Urd
ENCHANTMENT (7)
1 Legion's Landing
1 Reconnaissance
1 Goblin Bombardment
1 Goblin War Drums
1 Grasp of Fate
1 Necropotence
1 Shared Animosity
INSTANT (4)
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Anguished Unmaking
1 Fire Covenant
SORCERY (6)
1 Imperial Seal
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Minions' Murmurs
1 Austere Command
PLANESWALKER (1)
1 Liliana, Dreadhorde General
LAND (34)
1 Arid Mesa
1 Badlands
1 Blood Crypt
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Command Tower
1 Fetid Heath
1 Flooded Strand
1 Gemstone Caverns
1 Godless Shrine
1 Graven Cairns
1 Mana Confluence
1 Marsh Flats
1 Mountain
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Plains
1 Plateau
1 Polluted Delta
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Scrubland
1 Strip Mine
4 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Vault of the Archangel
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
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I wouldn't mind more partners so long as they don't go crazy strong with them. I hate partners with mechanic though as I feel like it takes all the fun out of it.
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Its more than just a second site. To give some back story, MTGSalvation has recieved almost zero development time in the last year and a half. A year and a half ago, we were given the deckbuilder which we had expected to point out the bugs in it quickly and have them be fixed. I think we got like one or two days of developers reviewing and a few minor bugs were fixed in it and then we received no further assistance from development other than to make sure that the site was still up and functioning since then.
Before the deckbuilder, it was probably a few years before that that we recieved significant developer assistance on the site and it was probably mobile which was the previous attention we got.
In a nutshell, we have not received much for attention from development since curse bought and transitioned the site which has been something like.... 5 years now I would guess. We had a HUGE backlog of requests of which a lot of the fixes were small cosmetic things that could have been quickly fixed. The upside of nexus is that essentially Feyd_Ruin (who was our previous tech) wrote the whole site and is updating and fixing things as he goes. The current product we have now can be requested to be improved and I believe Feyd will actually continue to improve the product there. MTGSalvation is like a half sunken ship on the other regards. Its unsure as to what kind of assistance it will have from the new owner but the backlog of requests is kind of large at this point.
I can't even tell you how often I have had to say, that's a great idea, we can add it to the stack but for the foreseeable future we don't know when we will get dev time next.
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Commander does have a set mulligan rule, its the same mulligan as every other format. At one point it was Partial Paris and there were rules outlining how that worked but as wizards moved to the Vancuver mulligans the rules committee decided to move away from Partial Paris and adopt the official mulligan rule that all other formats would be using. This reduced the number of rules for the format and brought it more in line with the other formats not to mention decreased the average speed of starting hands.
There is nothing saying people can't ask and suggest an alternate mulligan system for games. The rules committee usually encourages people to adapt based on what players want.