By itself does Painter's Servant enable any combo's in this deck? I get that it lets you recur your artifacts and lands but we already have Yawgmoth's Will/Buried Ruin for that (I don't know if the primer list is up to date but you've even got Shrouded Lore in there). Additionally, those cards are usually the ones you would want to recur the least, unless I need a combo piece back (why not just go for a different combo?) I usually want to recur tutors and draw spells the most.
Not saying it's not worth a slot, just trying to think about where it fits in the deck.
Edit: It's probably also worth considering that if you name black to improve Xiahou value then you blank your Snuff Out and Slaughter Pact.
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darrenhabib posted a message on Firesong and Sunspeaker - Boros Mid Range Control
Inspired from a lets brew thread here, it was hard to decided which direction I fully wanted to take this commander.
At first I looked at making a deck that planned on dealing as much damage as possible and hoping to gain some life along the way, to basically be the lastman..Minotaur's standing. But when I looked at this shell, I just felt that Neheb, the Eternal is just better at this sort of thing.
So in the end, I've bundled a lot of elements I like, and the deck is a mid-range control deck. This deck does not look to kill opponents with instant and sorcery damage, which is probably peoples first impressions of this commander. Most of the direct damage spells are used to control the board, rather than life totals.
I've built decks around Sunforger before, but they have been in Jeskai or Naya colors, so never had a truly dedicated Boros colored deck. But this commander seems like maybe the best Boros general to make use of this card. This deck is packed with cards that can be cast by this equipment.
With Firesong and Sunspeaker ability to gain life and deal 3 damage, the idea of the deck is to get small value from cards that can help to clear the board. Opponents creatures, artifacts and enchantments are dispatched through a series of instants and sorceries, which will ultimately gain you life, as well as potentially doing a Lightning Bolt as a kicker.
Massive life gain is possibly, so cards that use life are key to some victory paths, as well as just keeping you alive and well.
The essence of the deck, is to play a control role, until you can setup some win conditions. You have a number of instants and sorceries which can kill creatures, artifacts and enchantments. Direct damage can also help with removing opposing planeswalkers.
There are a number of red spells which deal damage. These will get lifelink, so that you will in some instances, gain huge amounts of life.
Imagine Chain Reaction or Blasphemous Act on a board of like 10 creatures. You are going to deal at least 100 damage in total, thus with Firesong and Sunspeaker in play you are going to gain at least 100 life.
Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant can be used to mitigate cards that deal damage to your creatures as well. Sword of Fire and Ice can be used for protection from red your commander.
You can use Treasonous Ogre to get enormous amounts of mana, if you've been able to gain life.
Aetherflux Reservoir is a path to victory with massive life gain.
There is also creature token strategy with Monastery Mentor, Assemble the Legion, as you have a lot of spells that trigger them.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion also produce token creatures.
This will help to flood the board to make your creature damage spells with lifelink more effective.
Skullclamp can help with card draw with numerous creature tokens.
Sunforger is one of the best cards in the deck. You have access to a lot of disruption and protection. Stoneforge Mystic and Godo, Bandit Warlord are tutors for this equipment.
There are some infinite loops you can do with Mistveil Plains, Deserted Temple and Sunforger.
You can use Chance for Glory and Angel's Grace to repeat getting extra turns.
Mistveil Plains can be searched with Tithe off Sunforger. Deserted Temple is used to get multiple activation's from Mistveil Plains.
It must be noted that with Firesong and Sunspeaker, any cards that are both red and white that deal damage will also gain you life. This in turn will trigger Firesong and Sunspeaker once again for the 3 damage portion.
So a Lightning Helix with Firesong and Sunspeaker in play will deal 9 damage in total and gain you 6 life. Not bad for 2 mana. This is the sort of incremental value we are looking for in the deck.
Lands can be important to destroy when taking on a control role, so we have Strip Mine and Field of Ruin to have some control of opponents lands.
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By anosou (11/17)
By JDviant (09/17)
Vona, Butcher of Magan
By Jamnikon (06/18)
Most used commanders
Official list of all the Multiplayer Commander Primers: Link
U Arcum Dagsson by TheTrueNub
U Arcum Dagsson by rockondon
U Azami, Lady of Scrolls by Allanon
U Barrin, Master Wizard by foo_intherain
U Memnarch by benjameenbear
B Gonti, Lord of Luxury by Guerte
B Sheoldred, Whispering One by Artaud
R Daretti, Scrap Savant by Guerte
R Jaya Ballard, Task Mage by Weebo
R Krenko, Mob Boss by Jay13x
R Lovisa Coldeyes by Airithne
R Norin the Wary by Gaka
G Jolrael, Empress of Beasts by jenncertainty
G Nemata, Grove Guardian by bobthefunny
G Nissa, Vastwood Seer by toctheyounger77
G Nissa, Vastwood Seer by aslidsiksoraksi
G Omnath, Locus of Mana by Xaios
G Patron of the Orochi by Rumpy5897
G Polukranos, World Eater by DementedKirby
G Yeva, Nature's Herald by Iansisle
C Karn, Silver Golem by Burntgerbil
C Kozilek, Butcher of Truth by Rasputin101
C Kozilek, Butcher of Truth by Juwdah
WB Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim by Xenphire
WB Daxos the Returned by Rumpy5897
WB Selenia, Dark Angel by Ulka
WB Teysa, Orzhov Scion by Schondetta
WU Brago, King Eternal by gromgrom
WU Bruna, Light of Alabaster by jylichan
WU Ephara, God of the Polis by Pokken
UB Dralnu, Lich Lord by jenncertainty
UB Phenax, God of Deception by Wallabe
UR Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind by FireStorm4056
UR Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind by Rowan
BG Glissa, the Traitor by Woohah
BG Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord by razzliox
BG Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest by DementedKirby
BG Meren of Clan Nel Toth by gromgrom
BR Grenzo, Dungeon Warden by snowfox54119
GU Edric, Spymaster of Trest by Donald
GU Momir Vig, Simic Visionary by GoldenCapitalist
GW Captain Sisay by jpw234
GW Rhys the Redeemed by Donald
GW Sigarda, Host of Herons by azn_cbc_1992
GW Trostani, Selesnya's Voice by bobthefunny
WBR Kaalia of the Vast by benjameenbear
WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic by Action_Mane
UBR Lord of Tresserhorn by Outcryqq
UBR Mishra, Artificer Prodigy by LordRewind
UBR Nicol Bolas by Netherknight
UBR Sedris, the Traitor King by ZenN
BGW Anafenza, the Foremost by Action_Mane
BGW Ghave, Guru of Spores by Dies_to_Doom_Blade
BGW Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper & Tymna the Weaver by ISBPathfinder
BRG Kresh the Bloodbraided by Krimsonmask
BRG Kresh the Bloodbraided by OwnDemon
RGW Marath, Will of the Wild by Airithne
RGW Mayael the Anima by Blueteam5
RWU Ruhan of the Fomori by CoolSeedling
RWU Zedruu the Greathearted by Hunding Gjornersen
GUB Sidisi, Brood Tyrant by DementedKirby
GWU Jenara, Asura of War by ZenN
GWU Phelddagrif by DirkGently
GWU Roon of the Hidden Realm by Outcryqq
GWUB Atraxa, Praetors' Voice by XeroxedFool
GWUB Thrasios, Triton Hero & Tymna the Weaver by Myojiin
WUBRG Child of Alara by crimhead
WUBRG Sliver Overlord by CruxMDQ
WUBRG Sliver Queen by Kahno
WUBRG Sliver Queen by Trav_Ragnar
Official list of all the 1v1 Commander Primers: Link
WBR Kaalia of the Vast by 3drinks
Unused commanders
ALL TIME
THIS YEAR
Popular commanders in need of new decklists
This is a list of commanders that have at least 20 entries in the database but have not seen any new decklist entries or updates in the past year
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BlazingRagnarok posted a message on Is Ashnods altars/KCI ability a mana abilityPosted in: Magic RulingsQuote from darkeshrine »The only time an ability that produces mana isn't a "mana ability" is when it has a target. Mana Abilities don't use the stack.
Close, but not the whole story. Being a loyalty ability of a planeswalker that adds mana also prevents an activated ability from being a mana ability, and triggered abilities that add mana can only be mana abilities when they trigger due to another mana ability (Utopia Sprawl is an example of this, but Cathodion's triggered ability is not a mana ability).
605.1a An activated ability is a mana ability if it meets all of the following criteria: it doesn’t require a target (see rule 114.6), it could add mana to a player’s mana pool when it resolves, and it’s not a loyalty ability. (See rule 606, “Loyalty Abilities.”)
605.1b A triggered ability is a mana ability if it meets all of the following criteria: it doesn’t require a target (see rule 114.6), it triggers from the resolution of an activated mana ability (see rule 106.11a) or from mana being added to a player’s mana pool, and it could add mana to a player’s mana pool when it resolves. -
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Weebo posted a message on [[Official]] List of Multiplayer PrimersThese are all the currently approved multiplayer primers. Organized by color, and then alphabetically.Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
Colorless
x - Karn, Silver Golem list here by Burntgerbil
x - Kozilek, Butcher of Truth list here by Juwdah
Mono-Colored
U - Arcum Dagsson list here by rockondon
U - Arcum Dagsson list here by TheTrueNub
U - Azami, Lady of Scrolls list here by Allanon
U - Barrin, Master Wizard list here by foo_intherain
U - Memnarch list here by benjameenbear
B - Gonti, Lord of Luxury list here by Guerte [new!]
B - Sheoldred, Whispering One list here by Artaud
R - Daretti, Scrap Savant list here by Guerte
R - Jaya Ballard, Task Mage list here by Weebo
R - Krenko, Mob Boss list here by Jay13x
R - Lovisa Coldeyes list here by Airithne
R - Norin the Wary list here by Gaka
G - Jolrael, Empress of Beasts list here by jenncertainty
G - Nissa, Vastwood Seer list here by aslidsiksoraksi
G - Nissa, Vastwood Seer list here by toctheyounger77 [new!]
G - Omnath, Locus of Mana list here by Xaios
G - Patron of the Orochi list here by Rumpy5897
G - Polukranos, World Eater list here by DementedKirby
G - Yeva, Nature's Herald list here by Iansisle
Bi-Colored
WU - Brago, King Eternal list here by gromgrom
WU - Bruna, Light of Alabaster list here by jylichan
WU - Ephara, God of the Polis list here by Pokken
WB - Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim list here by Kelzam
WB - Daxos the Returned list here by Rumpy5897
WB - Selenia, Dark Angel list here by Ulka
WB - Teysa, Orzhov Scion list here by Schondetta
UB - Dralnu, Lich Lord list here by jenncertainty
UB - Phenax, God of Deception list here by Wallabe
BR - Grenzo, Dungeon Warden list here by snowfox54119
UR - Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind list here by Rowan
UR - Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind list here by FireStorm4056
BG - Glissa, the Traitor list here by Woohah
BG - Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord list here by razzliox
BG - Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest list here by DementedKirby
BG - Meren of Clan Nel Toth list here by gromgrom
GW - Captain Sisay list here by jpw234
GW - Rhys the Redeemed list here by Donald
GW - Sigarda, Host of Herons list here by azn_cbc_1992
GW - Trostani, Selesnya's Voice list here by bobthefunny
GU - Edric, Spymaster of Trest list here by Donald
GU - Momir Vig, Simic Visionary list here by GoldenCapitalist
Tri-Colored
WUB - Oloro, Ageless Ascetic list here by Action_Mane
WBR - Kaalia of the vast list here by benjameenbear [new!]
UBR - Lord of Tresserhorn list here by Outcryqq
UBR - Mishra, Artificer Prodigy list here by LordRewind
UBR - Nicol Bolas list here by Netherknight
UBR - Sedris, the Traitor King list here by ZenN
UBG - Sidisi, Brood Tyrant list here by DementedKirby
BRG - Kresh the Bloodbraided list here by OwnDemon
BRG - Kresh the Bloodbraided list here by Krimsonmask
BGW - Anafenza, the Foremost list here by Action_Mane
BGW - Ghave, Guru of Spores list here by Dies_to_Doom_Blade
BGW - Tymna the Weaver & Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper list here by ISBPathfinder
RGW - Marath, Will of the Wild list here by Airithne
RGW - Mayael the Anima list here by Blueteam5
RWU - Ruhan of the Fomori list here by CoolSeedling
RWU - Zedruu the Greathearted list here by Hunding Gjornersen
GWU - Jenara, Asura of War list here by ZenN
GWU - Roon of the Hidden Realm list here by Outcryqq
Four-Colored
WUBG - Atraxa, Praetors' Voice list here by XeroxedFool [new!]
WUBG - Thrasios, Triton Hero/Tymna the Weaver list here by Myojiin
Penta-Colored
WUBRG - Child of Alara list here by crimhead
WUBRG - Sliver Overlord list here by CruxMDQ
WUBRG - Sliver Queen list here by Kahno
WUBRG - Sliver Queen list here by Trav_Ragnar
If you would like your primer on this list, along with a beautiful [Primer] tag for your thread, take some time and visit the Commander Primer Committee subforum and submit an application. The details of this process, along with the primer requirements, can be found in an announcement in that forum.
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Ramp:
1 Chrome Mox
1 Mana Crypt
1 Dark Ritual
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Baral, Chief of Compliance
1 Copy Artifact
1 Dimir Signet
1 Fellwar Stone
1 Grim Monolith
1 Izzet Signet
1 Mind Stone
1 Rakdos Signet
1 Talisman of Dominance
1 Talisman of Indulgence
1 Worn Powerstone
1 Primal Amulet
1 Turnabout
1 Gilded Lotus
Card Quality:
1 Brainstorm
1 Faithless Looting
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Preordain
1 Serum Visions
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Impulse
1 Night's Whisper
1 Search for Azcanta
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Painful Truths
1 Read the Bones
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Deep Analysis
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Dig Through Time
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Pact of Negation
1 Flame Slash
1 Vandalblast
1 Counterspell
1 Cyclonic Rift
1 Dreadbore
1 Negate
1 Rakdos Charm
1 Terminate
1 Chaos Warp
1 Counterflux
1 Kolaghan's Command
1 Damnation
1 Force of Will
Bombs:
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Bribery
1 Temporal Manipulation
1 Time Warp
1 Mind's Desire
1 Spelltwine
1 Time Spiral
1 Nexus of Fate
1 Expropriate
Copiers:
1 Increasing Vengeance
1 Nivix Guildmage
1 Bonus Round
1 Wild Ricochet
Lands:
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
1 Watery Grave
1 Steam Vents
1 Blood Crypt
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Sulfur Falls
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Temple of Deceit
1 Temple of Epiphany
1 Temple of Malice
1 Sunken Hollow
1 Smoldering Marsh
1 Fetid Pools
1 Canyon Slough
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Graven Cairns
4 Island
3 Swamp
3 Mountain
1 Command Tower
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Please love me.
Sincerly,
Cabal Stronghold.
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One can argue that more restrictions are better for creativity, but I for one am excited to jam all Jaces into monoblue.
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Introduction
In my head-cannon Kraum is like a Pokémon in the sense that he can only say his own name. Glad we got that out of the way... So, this partner pair was inspired by the duel commander decks that are dominating that format. While my deck isn't tap-out control or very reactive, I knew they would be useful based on that decks success. Both Vial Smasher the Fierce and Kraum, Ludevic's Opus are excellent creatures on their own. They don't have any much synergy as a pair, but Kraum can draw you some more spells to cast which fuels Vial Smasher. I chose them to helm my Grixis reanimator deck instead of Sedris, the Traitor King for a few reasons. Sedris is the default general, he requires more niche cards to operate, and I was interested in trying partners for the first time. The pair makes your deck more versatile instead of more specific. So far they have been very impressive in games where they stay on board. In good games Vial Smasher has done upwards of 40 damage and Kraum has drawn 5-6 cards.
Thesis
My Grixis reanimator deck aims to cheat mana by getting larger creatures into play early in the game, use instants and sorceries to draw cards and setup our combos, and use our commanders to pressure life totals and finish out the game. This deck has the typical early game reanimation spells and setup cards to make use of the graveyard. Faithless Looting, Buried Alive, Reanimate and Animate Dead are some examples of these cards. The deck also has access to cards like Treasure Cruise and Living Death for later game use of the graveyard as well. These larger spells make music with the early game cantrips and filtering for explosive plays later on. Finally, our commanders give our deck an angel of attack that doesn't rely on the graveyard. Vial Smasher is an excellent source of damage while Kraum is a Rhystic Study of sorts.
The Deck
If you we're wondering, this deck is not trying to reanimate creatures that are horrible to play against, the reanimation targets are mostly casual. If you were interested in trying my deck almost all of the creatures could be substituted for anything else. Despite the casual build, I think there is room for improvement, let me know any suggestions you have.
3 Vial Smasher the Fierce
5 Kraum, Ludevic's Opus
Ramp:
1 Dark Ritual
1 Sol Ring
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
2 Dimir Signet
2 Izzet Signet
2 Rakdos Signet
2 Talisman of Indulgence
2 Talisman of Dominance
Card Quality:
1 Brainstorm
1 Ponder
1 Preordain
2 Sign in Blood
2 Snapcaster Mage
3 Painful Truths
3 Phyrexian Arena
3 Read the Bones
8 Decree of Pain
8 Dig Through Time
8 Treasure Cruise
Removal:
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Pongify
1 Rapid Hybridization
1 Shattering Spree
1 Vandalblast
2 Cyclonic Rift
2 Terminate
3 Fleshbag Marauder
3 Merciless Executioner
3 Hero's Downfall
5 Treachery
8 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
1 Careful Study
1 Entomb
1 Faithless Looting
2 Cathartic Reunion
3 Buried Alive
3 Compulsive Research
3 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Frantic Search
4 Fact or Fiction
Reanimation:
1 Reanimate
2 Animate Dead
2 Dance of the Dead
3 Necromancy
3 Victimize
4 Dread Return
4 Whip of Erebos
5 Living Death
9 Rise of the Dark Realms
Creatures to Zombify:
5 Goblin Dark-Dwellers
5 Sidisi, Undead Vizier
6 Arcanis the Omnipotent
6 Charmbreaker Devils
6 Dragonlord Silumgar
6 Grave Titan
6 Scourge of the Throne
7 Chancellor of the Spires
7 Lord of the Void
7 Rune-Scarred Demon
7 Sheoldred, Whispering One
7 Sphinx of Uthuun
8 Akroma, Angel of Fury
1 Ash Barrens
1 Command Tower
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Temple of the False God
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
1 Watery Grave
1 Steam Vents
1 Blood Crypt
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Flooded Strand
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Sulfur Falls
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Temple of Deceit
1 Temple of Epiphany
1 Temple of Malice
1 Sunken Hollow
1 Smoldering Marsh
5 Island
4 Swamp
4 Mountain
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I think that the attitude is all wrong in the OP and the first reply. "You're never gonna win if..." "take advantage of everything at your disposal.." are sayings that bring up red flags for me. Its the mindset of playing against everyone instead of with them. If you're whole group is playing with that mindset, why not be the vanguard for a more polite experience? I find games are more fun and memorable when everyone gets to play and interact. But Hey, thats just me.
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Palinchron is better than Drake in the abstract because it doesn't require much effort to produce infinite mana. Gaea's Cradle and Phantasmal Image are useful cards on their own and with enough lands (or creatures) in play its an 'oops I win' moment. You can Tooth and Nail into Palinchron + Vorinclex if you wish as well.
The 5 Vs 7 CMC argument is interesting. I would say that this depends greatly on what youre using to enable Peregrine Drake. If the enabler is cheap enough then maybe you could combo a couple of turns earlier. I noticed that you were using Revillark combos. If thats the case then maybe Drake applies to that somehow.
Personally I prefer Palinchron as its just the best version of the thing. But I see places where Peregrine Drake is applicable.