I think you have it down pretty well. The legend rule change made everyone lose their minds for a little while and GC price is a good example. I imagine it won't go back below 100, I'd guess it will hold around the price of Karakas...maybe a little more
*looks at the missing Foil Stoneforge mystic I traded for a Thrun*
I traded my 4 Stonforge (1 foil) to a shop for 4 awakening zone to finish my Eldrazi deck when I first started playing again
I was lucky to not get swindled by any players when I started but the LGS clearly got the upper hand. I guess it could be worse. I don't even remember what I got out of my Rb Vial Goblins deck...
I really like TCGplayer because it gives you a selection of multiple stores so you always find the best price. Every time I've had a problem the seller has fixed it right away.
I have too. I have let go of a lot of cards for way lower than they should have.
Maybe it is the somewhat oversecure card market for high end cards these days that is part of a problem?
Between Modern Cards jumping (see Fulminator Mage) and people "cornering the market" (see Foil JtMS) card prices aren't stable anymore. Things quadruple in price in a day and everyone wants to be a minute ahead of the jump.
I have to agree, the golden age of cheap staples on MTGS seems over
I try to sell my cards on here as low as possible but it doesn't matter if I have my cards for face value or $2 less than TCG low, people will ask for discounts then get offended when I say no
I believe people are much more reluctant to come off staples anymore in fear they will explode in price. I really think MtG players are treating this game like investments (I know I have).
@Bronson thanks man, yeah the 2 colonnades and the missing batterskull`s so far are due to my budget.
I only play local fnm, thats why i switch my SB constantly.
My biggest problem so far, is boarding, i never want to take out a single thing.
My build feels so tight.
I'd start with the Priests against any non red deck (TBH you could probably cut them for something better IMO). It's good but you have a lot of creatures as is, maybe some signets to accelerate out your big threats like Elspeth and Venser? You could also add a Sphinx's Revelation, it may be too flashy for your taste but I like having at least 1 in my UW decks because it can nearly end the game on the spot in the late game.
Shortest game was against Belcher...can't so anything about a turn 0 kill when your on goblins game 1.
Longest was Modern with me on UW and my opponent on UWR. At the time I didn't have Sphinx's Revelation and was running Blue Suns Zenith in its place. The game dragged on forever and we were getting down to the end of our decks, he Sphinx's for enough to draw to 1 card in his library at my EOT. I have exactly enough mana to make him draw 1 card and protect it with a Cryptic, he lost on his draw step
I'm new to the Uw Midrange buisness, sorta, i played my deck on two FNM's now and it was a blast.
I went 4-0 and 1-3, different opponents on both FNM's so my list really needs more testing. My list is also a bit different then the mainstream in this thread, i play it more tapout and focus on ETB.
If i could, i would switch the Reveillarks for Batterskull, the Solatri Priest is a blast, unblockable, nearly unkillable and gets huge with elspeth.
I like Batterskull much better in your build, Baneslayer would also be pretty nice. Also I think you should up your Colonnades to 4, it's such a good win con. 4 Supreme Verdict seems like a little much since you will likely have decent creature matchups as is, I recommend Celestial Purge as an out to RDW and Jund/junk. You may also want to consider some GY hate in your SB, modern decks often thrive if not rely solely on their GY and it's an easy weakness to exploit.
Overall I really like your list. You have a really high threat density so you'll likely have a decent game against most midrange and control decks.
I understand that 100%, and about 10 minutes after I posted the question a friend of mine told me that he has Snapcasters that I can borrow for a while. What do you think the best list with Blade Splicer, Resto, and Snapcaster would be? I'm trying to think of a creature that I would want to top off with. I've seen a lot of Sun Titan, but I want to run something that has additional value when I board in RIP. The fact that Snapcaster already gets neutered by RIP sucks, but only getting a 6/6 for 6 with RIP in play just seems lackluster, and I feel like that is something that would happen quite often with this deck. I've seen a few lists that run Batterskull, and then a few that run Baneslayer. I've started to lean toward Batterskull, because even without the token, you can equip it to you Restoration Angel and not have to worry about Abrupt Decay killing your creature. The recursion is also something that I feel would be super nice. I am definitely up for suggestions though. PM me any lists and feel free to tell me about any personal card choices that may even differ from the few options I have posted. Thanks again, all!
1. I highly recommend trying them each out. Baneslayer makes profitable attacks extremely difficult but Batterskull can survive after a PtE. Sun Titan is great for Wall of Omens, Clique, Splicer, etc. one of my favorite plays is to recur Clique forcing them to have an instant speed answer as I can usually strip a sorcery speed one.
2. What makes you so set on RiP? I run 2 surgical extraction and along with a I can wreck a GY. Relic of Progenitous is really good as well. While you may hurt Snapcaster you will be hurting your opponent's strategy worse.
To each his own but I really like having my GY (but I run a Kitchen Finks build)
Hey guys. I have been looking into building something similar to this, and I've been wondering if Clique and Snapcaster are required to make the deck work. I'm working on a bit of a budget, but obviously if they are 100% needed to make this work I will fit them into that budget somehow. I am sure there aren't many alternatives to them. I have seen many lists without Clique so I assume that can be cut out, but Snapcaster is everywhere. I was looking into Spellstutter Sprite, but my guess is that it would end up being extremely underwhelming in the place of Snapcaster. I may be wanting to look into a more CawBlade-esque deck as well. I appreciate any and all recommendations and help that you guys are willing to give me. Thanks!
Snapcaster is pretty necessary but Clique isn't (but I highly recommend, especially if you run Resto). Spellstutter will require you to run Clique and Mutavault and the Mutavaults will dilute the stable UW mana base.
There are also a ton of impatient players with money who don't mind paying a little more to get what they want RIGHT NOW. The Commander decks and the prices/values of the singles in them will settle down soon enough. If you are willing to be patient, you should be fine. Its the same thing with new magic sets, prices always start out high and begin to settle significantly within a month or two of the release for most cards from the set.
It's not just the CMD its everything. I understand there is supply and demand but I would rather have cheaper cards. Its just my personal preference but I also understand its a pipe dream.
I'd love to see WotC go crazy with MMa but that won't happen either.
At this point I'm getting tired of mtg prices. I would rather have Yugioh style reprints and a bunch of cheap staples than a $3000 collection. Everyone these days is trying to make a buck and be a step ahead of the market. I just wanna play a game I love
You're better off running Batterskull. It is harder to remove and furthers the artifact strategy.
I traded my 4 Stonforge (1 foil) to a shop for 4 awakening zone to finish my Eldrazi deck when I first started playing again
I was lucky to not get swindled by any players when I started but the LGS clearly got the upper hand. I guess it could be worse. I don't even remember what I got out of my Rb Vial Goblins deck...
Between Modern Cards jumping (see Fulminator Mage) and people "cornering the market" (see Foil JtMS) card prices aren't stable anymore. Things quadruple in price in a day and everyone wants to be a minute ahead of the jump.
I try to sell my cards on here as low as possible but it doesn't matter if I have my cards for face value or $2 less than TCG low, people will ask for discounts then get offended when I say no
I believe people are much more reluctant to come off staples anymore in fear they will explode in price. I really think MtG players are treating this game like investments (I know I have).
I'd start with the Priests against any non red deck (TBH you could probably cut them for something better IMO). It's good but you have a lot of creatures as is, maybe some signets to accelerate out your big threats like Elspeth and Venser? You could also add a Sphinx's Revelation, it may be too flashy for your taste but I like having at least 1 in my UW decks because it can nearly end the game on the spot in the late game.
Longest was Modern with me on UW and my opponent on UWR. At the time I didn't have Sphinx's Revelation and was running Blue Suns Zenith in its place. The game dragged on forever and we were getting down to the end of our decks, he Sphinx's for enough to draw to 1 card in his library at my EOT. I have exactly enough mana to make him draw 1 card and protect it with a Cryptic, he lost on his draw step
I like Batterskull much better in your build, Baneslayer would also be pretty nice. Also I think you should up your Colonnades to 4, it's such a good win con. 4 Supreme Verdict seems like a little much since you will likely have decent creature matchups as is, I recommend Celestial Purge as an out to RDW and Jund/junk. You may also want to consider some GY hate in your SB, modern decks often thrive if not rely solely on their GY and it's an easy weakness to exploit.
Overall I really like your list. You have a really high threat density so you'll likely have a decent game against most midrange and control decks.
1. I highly recommend trying them each out. Baneslayer makes profitable attacks extremely difficult but Batterskull can survive after a PtE. Sun Titan is great for Wall of Omens, Clique, Splicer, etc. one of my favorite plays is to recur Clique forcing them to have an instant speed answer as I can usually strip a sorcery speed one.
2. What makes you so set on RiP? I run 2 surgical extraction and along with a I can wreck a GY. Relic of Progenitous is really good as well. While you may hurt Snapcaster you will be hurting your opponent's strategy worse.
To each his own but I really like having my GY (but I run a Kitchen Finks build)
Snapcaster is pretty necessary but Clique isn't (but I highly recommend, especially if you run Resto). Spellstutter will require you to run Clique and Mutavault and the Mutavaults will dilute the stable UW mana base.
It's not just the CMD its everything. I understand there is supply and demand but I would rather have cheaper cards. Its just my personal preference but I also understand its a pipe dream.
I'd love to see WotC go crazy with MMa but that won't happen either.