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    posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (9/28/2015 update - No changes!)
    Quote from Darkbrew »
    Can someone post the ban link? I thought it was monday...



    From what I understand some people found on the MTGO Beta that Summer Bloom and Splinter Twin were both banned so they rushed the article out. The announcement wasn't supposed to be until Monday.

    Here is a link to PVDDR discussing it a few hours before the announcement.
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    posted a message on Temur/Tarmo (RUG) Twin (7/2015 - 1/2016)
    Heading to GP Pittsburgh this weekend and I'm having a few doubts about my list. I was 26-4 in 30 matches and have gone 1-7 in the past few days. I'm not sure if its my list or just a run of luck. My current list is


    I was wondering how you guys feel about Huntmaster of the Fells over the 2nd Cryptic Command? It feels like the weakest card in the deck now that Dispels are everywhere. I haven't been able to test it enough and would like to hear the opinion of someone who has played it.

    Also Pyroclasm or Anger of the Gods for a SB boardwipe?
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    posted a message on Temur/Tarmo (RUG) Twin (7/2015 - 1/2016)
    I'm currently running 2 Thragtusk and 1 Keranos in my sideboard. Would you recommend 1 Sarkhan, 1 Thragtusk, and 1 Keranos or just keeping the 3 and finding a 4th slot for Sarkhan? I haven't been able to try a list with Sarkhan yet.
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    posted a message on Temur/Tarmo (RUG) Twin (7/2015 - 1/2016)
    After a few nights grinding online the only matchup I really feel weak against is Jund. How do you guys feel about Obstinate Baloth over the 2 Thragtusk to combat Liliana? With alot of Rx aggro decks running around the 4 toughness could be very useful.
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    posted a message on Temur/Tarmo (RUG) Twin (7/2015 - 1/2016)
    After throwing a few versions through MTGO I can't settle on a complete 75 for GP Pittsburgh. I'm looking for some of your opinions on

    - 22 or 23 lands?
    - Going big on the combo (9-10 pieces) or go more tempo (8-9 pieces)
    - Dismember and Roast or just 2 Roast?
    - Finally, what do your sideboards look like?

    This deck is definitely one of the most powerful decks I've played with but I'm not sure if I'm making it better or worse tweaking without enough games to test.
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    posted a message on Temur/Tarmo (RUG) Twin (7/2015 - 1/2016)
    Quote from Godrik1374 »
    I'm very hesiting between

    3 Krasis
    3 Deceiver

    or

    2 Krasis
    3 Deceiver
    1 Vendillion

    My meta is alot control/burn
    What would you play guys?


    Personally I prefer having access to Clique. It fits well in the tempo strategy and is disruption for the combo strategy. If Junk sees a resurgence (or any major Lingering Souls decks) I would cut clique. For now I think the 3/1 body is good enough.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] What is the most pimp card/deck you've seen or owned? (SEE RULES!)
    I think I'll finish foiling out but will probably work on foiling the UR twin deck first (foil Goyfs would be nice though). I think my next pick ups will be in this order:
    -Expedition Shocks
    -Foil Snapcaster
    - promo Remand, Serum Visions, and Cryptic
    - rest of UR (Electrolyze, Deceiver, etc.)
    - Consider getting Goyfs down the road


    When all is said and done I want the whole thing foil except the 4 Beta Lightning Bolt unless I can someday get Judge Promos 😩
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    posted a message on [[Official]] What is the most pimp card/deck you've seen or owned? (SEE RULES!)
    What started as UR Twin built specifically for GP Pittsburgh quickly got out of hand. This is the prettiest deck I have ever built and I hope to finish foiling it within the next few months.
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    posted a message on Legality of some Premium Deck Series cards
    As long as your cards are sleeved you should be fine. The only way I could see anyone complaining is if certain cards are noticeably warped from the foiling.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] What is the most pimp card/deck you've seen or owned? (SEE RULES!)
    Those Guru duals are so gorgeous. I like the full art fetches but dem duals tho
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    posted a message on What have been your best/worst MTG investments?
    Best:
    By straight value investing in Zen Fetchlands at the beginning of modern for less than $10 ea.

    By comparative value I got 20 promo phyrexian metamorph promos for $1 ea when they were $5, the store is rather shady and told me he'd sell the promos so I bought them all. They went up a little more but an instant 400% profit was nice.

    My 2 boxes of MMA 2015 was a pretty good investment. Box 1 was terrible but box 2 had a foil and a regular goyf, Elesh Norn, Noble Hierarch, Fulminator, Spellskite, Spliter twin, and Wilt-leaf liege.

    Worst:
    95% of the sealed product I've opened. I have terrible luck when it comes to cracking packs.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Quote from Lynnis »

    This is awesome, congratulations. I think that is basically the dream scenario for opening one of these boxes. I shied away from MM2015 after a lackluster MM box in 2013 where I basically broke even (meaning I would have been better off just buying singles I wanted). If the commons and uncommons had more value in MM2015 I may have jumped on a box, but alas. All I can say is that it is awesome to see stories like this, I love it when people get lucky with packs and boxes.

    On a related note, I bought a Khans Holiday Gift Box yesterday that was marked down at Walmart to $15 (figured the pack value alone is worth more retail wise) and I needed the box for storage and organization. First pack I opened a Polluted Delta and paid for the whole thing. Good times were had.


    The best part is I planned to cancel my preorders (had 2 boxes ordered) but the store talked me out of it by giving me a partial refund. I told them I wasn't as interested in the set as I initially was and the prices had really dropped for boxes. They looked up prices and refunded me $20 on each of them. I'm glad the 2nd box turned out so good because I would be disgusted with the contents of the first. I got 1 Clique, 1 Karn, 2 Daybreak, and a bunch of junk. The second one apparently had the good stuff that was supposed to be separated across the 2 boxes :p

    Quote from Chainer3 »
    You probably should and then remember that I advised you to do so when you win the power ball. Wink I drafted last night and managed to pull a goyf, so maybe we should collaborate numbers for the ticket together.

    I do have a question for you fine gents and I'm sure this should be in trade evaluation thread, but would you trade said tarmogoyf and a played condition Liliana of the Veil for a box of MM15?


    Personally I wouldn't. MMA is a gamble and sometimes you get lucky but I imagine most times you end up in the red.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    So MMA finally brought me back to MTGS. I've never had luck opening packs but last night I opened a foil and a regular goyf from the same box. Not many of my friends play magic so you guys are the only ones who will care Grin

    I feel like I should buy a lottery ticket
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    posted a message on [Primer] OmniTell
    Thats what I figured but wouldn't it be easier to just cast Emrakul? The only situation I can see where you wouldn't want to is when they have Ensnaring Bridge or can swing back for lethal, neither of which are super common.
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    posted a message on [Primer] OmniTell
    Being new to Omnitell (Playing the Cunning Wish version) can someone explain the Release the Ants in the sideboard? I know how it works generally but without Enter the Infinite how do you reliably set it up? Is it really as simple as setting up with Ponder/Preordain? I feel like you could just dig for the high cmc spell you need in that situation.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    what is the link to Reddit?

    I already use deckbox


    There is a trading thread every Monday on the top of the MagicTCG Reddit. There's not as many traders as here on MTGS but you have to repost your list every week so you know the ones posting are actually looking to trade.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    I've started trading through Reddit or Deckbox. Ever since the switch-over trading has drastically changed for me. I've also started playing legacy so that may affect my decisions and wants.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    I think Flagstones rise is from legacy Death and Taxes. It's been seeing more play in the builds and works well with Cataclysm.
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    posted a message on Where to go to get Alters done?
    There are a lot of users on here that do alters as well. I'm not sure how many are still available but here is a list that used to be updated before we came to the Curse site. You may wanna give them a try.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    Quote from DrewReaLee »
    Quote from H2O4Sho »
    Didn't Snapcaster Magefish go from $16 - $35 a little while back. I would call that a significant jump since it basically doubled in price. However, aside from this initial jump it has not gone up further, which is suprising given the explosion of Modern pricing


    Snapcaster's price has actually been declining slowly after it's price surge a while back and it's closer to $31 now. It's still a very reasonable price and I would recommend anybody who hasn't their copies now to pick them up.

    Also has anyone seen Sword of Fire and Ice's price recently particularly the Modern Masters version? It's up to $41 now up from around $35 a couple days ago. I'm not sure where SOFAF is played but it may be a Commander card now that I think of it.


    A lot of its growth is due to True Name Nemesis. The pro blue lets you get past TNN and both the abilities are relevant in almost any game. Plus the MMa art is so nice.
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    posted a message on Top 3 favorite cards?
    Lightning Bolt- if I have to explain why I love this card you haven't ever cast one.

    Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas- I won my first FNM with a UB Tezzeret list and he's always had a place in my heart because of it. Plus his abilities are just nuts.

    This last one is much harder than the precious two but I have to go with Snapcaster Mage. He's such a fun card that's incredibly powerful and it helps he took me to my first day 2 at GP Detroit Smile
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    I'm excited to draft it but I'm kinda bummed about cards only being able to be used during that draft (the land that allows you and the people next to you choose 3 colors it can tap for; can't find the name ATM). Beyond those I feel the set will be really cool and awesome for EDH....I want Scourge the Throne so bad lol
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?27506-Mono-White-ConTroll-or-quot-How-to-put-the-quot-troll-quot-into-control-quot

    Prison is also a big part of Travis Woo's Mono White (enchantment) Control list. Basically it's all of Moderns hate enchantments main boarded with Sigil of the Empty Throne as it's wincon. It's a fun deck when everything goes right but idk why Prison would be rising. It was reprinted 3 times after Kamigawa (given 2 were more limited). Maybe someone had extra funds after buying up the Tendo Ice Bridges and decided to pick up some prisons too lol :p

    We said knock off the trolling and flaming. Infraction issued - Rai
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    Quote from SirBruce »
    Quote from huktonfonix »
    For godsake, please let it go. Go ruin another thread with an argument about purple borders, or whatever other petty debate you feel like derailing a thread with today. Better yet, there is an entire debate forum for exactly the kind of conversation you're looking for.

    The filterlands are an important part of the modern manabase and have increased significantly in price in the past few months and are continuing to trend upward. This is relevant information and I for one appreciate the observation.

    Your pet card is not used by anyone and has increased by the price of a pack of Fallen Empires. We don't care. Please stop.


    The person derailing the thread is you, not me. I'm talking about the rules, and you're talking about personal preferences about what cards you like. Why didn't you post about Spell Pierce? It also increased by the price of a pack of Fallen Empires.

    In the end, whether or not you care about a particular card is not relevant to whether or not the card is discussed here. Plenty of people cared about the cards I talked about, so if you don't, best to just keep mum.


    Also worth noting you commented on Spell Pierce moving, it apparently wasn't a problem then. People are interested in a highly played common moving because of it's widespread use, Tendo Ice Bridge is barely played in a fringe deck so it isn't on people's radar's for the most part. But that's neither here nor there.

    On a gainers topic, or rather losers, Liliana or the Veil seems to be slipping back. Do you guys think this is because of the loss of DRS? I notice she doesn't show up nearly as much anymore in modern, for the most part I only see her in BG Midrange.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Quote from krimsonviper
    LOL, that's when you know a game is getting big. When it's featured on shows.

    Gals, did you hear that I would be willing to sell you for 20 of the new judge promo lands from Terese Nielson? :p


    They are so damn nice. They're gonna end up stupid expensive like Guru lands though Frown

    I want the panoramic framed and on my wall ASAP though


    Oh and btw you know at least one more person from twitch Smile I saw you guys talking the other day on oarsmans channel but couldn't reply from my phone lol
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    They should make a god fetchland and make it uncommon

    Super land
    Tap, sacrifice, and pay 3 life. Search your library for any land that can produce 2 or more colors and put it on the battlefield.



    Or better yet just print 1 fetchland per set for the next 10 sets with blue ones coming last lol. I agree fetch prices are pretty high but this game has exploded over the past 5 years. I remember at GP Columbus saying I'll never pay $1000+ for a deck....that's now out the window.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    I don't believe their derailing the thread, rather questioning your motives of watching the card move with such scruntity. It may be moving but everything is trending upwards with mtg's growth and watching a $2 card increase isn't much priority for most of the users.

    On another note how high do you think Scapeshift can go? I've thought it was underpriced as a staple in a tier 1 deck and if splinter twin can pass 20 I don't see why Scapeshift can't see the same levels if not more.
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    posted a message on Issues with the Market Street
    I've definitely noticed a downward trend from the new site. I used to get a decent bit of trades but anymore I have to really search them out. I'm not putting all the blame on the new layout though, or TCGplayer for that matter. I think a big part of it is with as volatile as the market has been the past 6 months or so many people are just sitting on their cards in fear they will miss the next spike.

    MTGS just isn't what it used to be...for better or worse. I've debated moving to MOTL but most of you guys are pretty awesome Wink
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Quote from krimsonviper
    Just finished Junk Stoneblade? Legacy is so hard to find, but with so many people entering into the game, there are some who are getting into Legacy because they want a non rotating, less restricting format, so popularity is actually increasing. It took me 2-3 years to find this place, and there were only 12 players with a 10 proxy allowance. People are bending over backwards just to play this format and make it available.


    Yeah, I had Dark Confidants, Liliana, and Thoughtsize already from my modern deck. All I had to get was Wasteland, Duals, and a SFM package (not playing goyf). I've always enjoyed legacy but when underground sea and volcanic spiked I decided it was better to bite the bullet rather than be potentially priced out for good. I'm guessing the first tournament I'll get to enter is SCG open in Columbus next month. Hopefully fetches get reprinted and I can play something blue Wink
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    I just finished my first legacy deck in 4-5 years. I played goblins awhile back but fell away from legacy in lieu of modern. Now I just have to find somewhere to play Frown I just saw the tides rising and didn't want to be priced out
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Trade Evaluation -- Pile A versus B
    Quote from FoodChainGoblins
    Quote from FoodChainGoblins
    Pile A - FOIL Spell Pierce

    Pile B - 2 Nylea, God of the Hunt
    1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
    1 Caged Sun
    1 FNM Tidehollow Sculler
    1 Petrified Field
    1 Hammer of Purphoros

    It looks like $48 for $48 to me. All cards are NM except maybe the Petrified Field. What do you think?

    What about this one guys? It looks more like $44 for $44. Smile


    If you plan on playing the foil pierce I'd say take it (which in turn leads to acquiring more of them). If you're like me and tend to stay away from foils I'd say go with pile B. Either way is good, it just depends on which route suits you better. I'd personally take B.

    Plus moving high value common foils like pierce can be difficult unless you can find the niche players. But that's just from my personal experience (I sat on a moderately played foil one for awhile until T&T took it off my hands for ~$9 if I remember correctly)
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    Quote from Shale WarBringer
    Do you think that I could easily turn the playset around for 80$USD?


    They are 18.99 mid in TCGplayer so not likely. I think with the majority around 15-17 you'd be lucky to get more than 60-65. While they could go up a little more (they are ridiculous against some decks) they could just as easily crash with a reprint like with Leyline of the Void.
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    posted a message on Wal-Mart not carrying Magic the Gathering anymore?
    My local walmart (Fremont, OH) completely changed their display this week after pulling everything last week so maybe it's a new presentation Walmart is setting up. I know they are stocked by middlemen but maybe it's a walmart decision? I doubt they are pulling the cards unless theft is rampant. I'd just give them a week or so and see if they're back.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    The new enchantments could also be stirring people to revisit Enduring Ideal decks. Idk how viable the deck is in the current meta having never played it but having a bunch of silver bullets and a consistent tutor is usually pretty decent (see Pod).
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    posted a message on Why is this game so expensive all of a sudden?
    Going on my own experience, Modern has driven prices as much as anything else. Before Modern Standard-only players could dump their staples to keep up with rotation, Extended wasn't a very popular format and not many cards made the cut to port into Legacy. With Modern coming about many of these midrange cards that were good in Standard but not in Legacy now find homes in decks. With many people scrambling to pick up these cards for this new format many cards spiked because they were suddenly playable again. Within these spikes WotC announces Modern Masters and many people held out on getting into the format in fear that their "investment" would be for naught and prices would plummet.

    Then MMa is released. People start picking up staples again and the supply doesn't slow the demand driving prices on more sought after cards up even further. Now a few years after Modern's conception the prices still rise as WotC continues to push Modern as their "eternal format". With Modern (and its banned list) being very volatile the "best deck" keeps changing and cards across the board rise because of the rotating lists. Eventually, players who got into Modern early (and profited) now are sitting on cards worth 2-10x what they payed for them. Rather than cashing out they trade them into Legacy staples fueling another rise in prices, this time from Legacy/reserve list staples. And this brings us to today. Many players now realize they have another format to contend with beyond standard. Many players (especially grinders) need to have at least one deck for each format to stay current.


    I don't honestly believe there is a "bubble" in magic. I think prices are rising because of the massive influx of new players especially to non rotating formats like Modern. While I've seen numerous threads like this it often boils down to two sides. On one side you have players who didn't/don't have the cards or funds to play in more expensive formats and you have players who have much invested in these formats. I have no doubt the cost of entry to Modern will come down but that will require some input from WotC otherwise prices will keep reaching absurd levels (heres looking at you fetches).

    Players are paying these prices to get the cards so complaining they are out of your price range and that they should be reprinted is more of a personal problem. If you can't afford to get into a format WotC does have other, cheaper, formats. It all comes down to how much you want to invest in this game, just because you think $2500 is way to much for a deck doesn't mean that I'm not going to pay it.

    I think this is a great example:
    Quote from BatHickey
    A solid commander deck costs as much as a good standard one just about, which costs the same amount as a totally sweet RC car or a paintball gun or a set of paints and some canvas, or taking a short road trip. people spend money on their hobbies.




    TL;DR
    There are more MtG players and not enough cards to go around, especially in older formats. If you can't afford these more expensive cards maybe consider less expensive options.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Legacy Huge Gainers
    30 for Edric seems pretty high but after watching Bahra tear up a few dailys with Noble Fish I think it was undervalued for quite some time. I imagine it should be closer to $15-20 IMO (where it currently sits on TCGplayer). With only 2 partial printings it still not a common card to come by.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Legacy Huge Gainers
    It seems the Judge Karakas is drying up on TCGplayer. It's up to $140 low from ~$95 a month or so ago
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    posted a message on How do you counter a deck that can get a turn-2 Insta-Kill card on the field?
    Make a fun deck to troll him with. 30 Act of Agression, 10 Dark Ritual, and 20 Swamp. Just keep killing him with his own Blightsteel and I'm guessing he'll stop playing that deck. If he complains about an illegal deck remind him his deck is also illegal. It's one thing to play a competitive deck in a casual game but to play degenerate strategies just isn't fair or fun.
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    posted a message on Prettiest Magic Cards
    I particularly enjoy the Full art lands in Zendikar and the UNH Forest but I think the MPR Lightning Bolt is my favorite art in the game
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    posted a message on MPR and Judge Lightning Bolts sky high
    I mentioned it in the Modern Huge gainers thread awhile back but the Beta ones are also drying up. They went from ~24 to 60 in the last year. All that's left on TCGplayer is MP and HP ones.

    Just to chime in I think Lightning Bolt and Sinkhole are the best commons. Brainstorm and Dark Ritual are good but need support to make them great. Bolt will always be 3 damage. But bolt is easily the best Modern common and possibly one of the best modern cards period. It's no surprise people are flocking to the pimped versions.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    Quote from Snobby Bok Choy
    Modern is really blowing up! Any card, MD or SB in a popular decks has just taken off in price. For better or worse, this is where the money in the game is right now. More money to be made/lost but mainly made if you have foresight and the balls then in Legacy.

    Keep in mind that some of this is likely short term gains, but still. WOW.

    Are there even any "cheap" decks left? I mean it wasn't that long ago that splinter twin was $3-4


    It's been like this pretty much since Modern became a thing. 2 years ago Tron was less than $300 as was Living end. I've been jumping on cheap decks hoping they go up and have had decent success so far.

    How high do you guys think the WW manlands will reach? They are all underpriced IMO especially Wildwood and Ravine. They aren't a likely reprint and are quite cozy in their respective modern decks.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    It was coming up in RUG list a little while back because it's easier on the mana vs finks

    I forgot all about Garruk. That's another decent one especially for foils.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    I think Huntmaster is another to watch. Transform cards were pretty meh except for Delver and Huntmaster and I doubt we'll see them again anytime soon. I think the foils are pretty decent spec targets.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    How high do you guys think Spellskite can go? As many people have voiced there is a slim chance of more Phyrexian mana coming which makes something like Spellskite incredibly unique. It's colorless, a great sideboard answer, from a 3rd set, and in some cases a complete hoser to certain strategies. It seems like it's underpriced as is at ~$15
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    So why is Ensnaring Bridge up to 20-25? It doesn't see a ton of play and has been reprinted, I dont see what pushing it
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    Worth noting Celestial Colonnade has ticked up to ~$18 mid.
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    posted a message on How to best "Invest" $100 in Standard and/or Modern
    For $100 I'd grab 4 Thoughtseize and 4 Deathrite Shaman. I'm speaking in long term investments though because they are both going to rise after some time out of standard, both being legacy staples.

    Edit: just read the standard/modern part lol. I'd still go with Thoughtseize but probably change the DRS to a few Snapcaster
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    On that note Beta Lightning Bolts are up to 60 with only MP and HP ones left on tcgplayer (and the 1 LP copy at 59)
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Legacy Huge Gainers
    So when did Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas become a $16 card and why?
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    posted a message on Best way to buy cards on mtgsalvation?
    Quote from zrbrt
    Depending on their iTrader and the amount of the sale, I would pay in gift. I've done every transaction online through gift payments and have never had a problem. Your results may vary.


    As a former MS mod I'll tell you this is terrible advice. I've seen 100+ iTrader users decide to rip and the opposite of new trades that are very professional. With gift payment there is no protection for the buyer should there be a problem. The best advice I can give is read through this article, it has a lot of great info about trading/sales through the mail.

    Just be smart and you'll be fine, this site is a great resource for supplementing your collection. It's nice having access to 500+ binders vs your local shops traders Smile
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Happy New Years from ohio! hope everyones holiday is fun and safe!
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Happy 1 year anniversary to the end of the world! Hope everyone has made due this past year.
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    posted a message on Is there anther card in Modern that causes instant rage as well as Blood Moon?
    Ensnaring Bridge is pretty brutal against any deck that turns creatures sideways
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    I know you'll all likely hear it all day but Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Be safe!
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    posted a message on What If: all mana was Phyrexian Mana
    I think Leyline of Anticipation combo decks would destroy the game.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] "What Deck Should I Play?"
    You could look into Mono Green Tron (with or without Tooth and Nail). It's not going to be tier one but you will crush a lot of fair decks.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Huge Gainers
    Quote from nylarotep
    Splinter Twin cleaned out across the web


    I saw that on Reddit. Did I miss a tournament or something? I know Twin is a pillar of the format but it seems like a pretty accessible card. Perhaps more market manipulation?
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Quote from Evaunits01
    I guess I'll try to creep this forum more. Interesting what you guys talk about


    It's mainly gibberish and ramblings but I definitely think this is one of my favorite threads on MTGS.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    So envious. I have to be clean shaven for work. I want to grow another beard so bad. I haven't had one since high school.
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    posted a message on Best source to learn ins/outs/tricks of The Stack?
    Quote from delfam
    MTGO would probably be the best place


    I also highly recommend mtgo. Being able to visualize the stack really helps to make better sense of it. Plus once you miss a trigger or two you'll start remembering.
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    posted a message on Will Gaea's Cradle continue to drop?
    I think you have it down pretty well. The legend rule change made everyone lose their minds for a little while and GC price is a good example. I imagine it won't go back below 100, I'd guess it will hold around the price of Karakas...maybe a little more
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    posted a message on [Primer] Tezzerator
    Quote from TonyRo
    Has anyone tried Thragtusk in the SB? Seems quite good against Jund...


    You're better off running Batterskull. It is harder to remove and furthers the artifact strategy.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Quote from Rai Kerensky
    I am glad I never anything like that.

    *looks at the missing Foil Stoneforge mystic I traded for a Thrun*


    I traded my 4 Stonforge (1 foil) to a shop for 4 awakening zone to finish my Eldrazi deck when I first started playing again Slant

    I was lucky to not get swindled by any players when I started but the LGS clearly got the upper hand. I guess it could be worse. I don't even remember what I got out of my Rb Vial Goblins deck...
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Remember when the MS had great deals? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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    posted a message on Is TCGplayer.com any good?
    I really like TCGplayer because it gives you a selection of multiple stores so you always find the best price. Every time I've had a problem the seller has fixed it right away.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Quote from Yomako
    I have too. I have let go of a lot of cards for way lower than they should have.

    Maybe it is the somewhat oversecure card market for high end cards these days that is part of a problem?


    Between Modern Cards jumping (see Fulminator Mage) and people "cornering the market" (see Foil JtMS) card prices aren't stable anymore. Things quadruple in price in a day and everyone wants to be a minute ahead of the jump.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    I have to agree, the golden age of cheap staples on MTGS seems over Frown

    I try to sell my cards on here as low as possible but it doesn't matter if I have my cards for face value or $2 less than TCG low, people will ask for discounts then get offended when I say no Frown

    I believe people are much more reluctant to come off staples anymore in fear they will explode in price. I really think MtG players are treating this game like investments (I know I have).
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    posted a message on [Primer] Azorius Midrange (UW Midrange)
    Quote from Galel
    @Bronson thanks man, yeah the 2 colonnades and the missing batterskull`s so far are due to my budget.

    I only play local fnm, thats why i switch my SB constantly.
    My biggest problem so far, is boarding, i never want to take out a single thing.
    My build feels so tight.


    I'd start with the Priests against any non red deck (TBH you could probably cut them for something better IMO). It's good but you have a lot of creatures as is, maybe some signets to accelerate out your big threats like Elspeth and Venser? You could also add a Sphinx's Revelation, it may be too flashy for your taste but I like having at least 1 in my UW decks because it can nearly end the game on the spot in the late game.
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    posted a message on What's the shortest/longest game you've ever played?
    Shortest game was against Belcher...can't so anything about a turn 0 kill when your on goblins game 1.

    Longest was Modern with me on UW and my opponent on UWR. At the time I didn't have Sphinx's Revelation and was running Blue Suns Zenith in its place. The game dragged on forever and we were getting down to the end of our decks, he Sphinx's for enough to draw to 1 card in his library at my EOT. I have exactly enough mana to make him draw 1 card and protect it with a Cryptic, he lost on his draw step Smile
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    posted a message on [Primer] Azorius Midrange (UW Midrange)
    Quote from Galel
    Hi Guys,

    I'm new to the Uw Midrange buisness, sorta, i played my deck on two FNM's now and it was a blast.

    I went 4-0 and 1-3, different opponents on both FNM's so my list really needs more testing. My list is also a bit different then the mainstream in this thread, i play it more tapout and focus on ETB.



    If i could, i would switch the Reveillarks for Batterskull, the Solatri Priest is a blast, unblockable, nearly unkillable and gets huge with elspeth.


    I like Batterskull much better in your build, Baneslayer would also be pretty nice. Also I think you should up your Colonnades to 4, it's such a good win con. 4 Supreme Verdict seems like a little much since you will likely have decent creature matchups as is, I recommend Celestial Purge as an out to RDW and Jund/junk. You may also want to consider some GY hate in your SB, modern decks often thrive if not rely solely on their GY and it's an easy weakness to exploit.

    Overall I really like your list. You have a really high threat density so you'll likely have a decent game against most midrange and control decks.
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    posted a message on [Primer] Azorius Midrange (UW Midrange)
    Quote from Belflagor
    I understand that 100%, and about 10 minutes after I posted the question a friend of mine told me that he has Snapcasters that I can borrow for a while. What do you think the best list with Blade Splicer, Resto, and Snapcaster would be? I'm trying to think of a creature that I would want to top off with. I've seen a lot of Sun Titan, but I want to run something that has additional value when I board in RIP. The fact that Snapcaster already gets neutered by RIP sucks, but only getting a 6/6 for 6 with RIP in play just seems lackluster, and I feel like that is something that would happen quite often with this deck. I've seen a few lists that run Batterskull, and then a few that run Baneslayer. I've started to lean toward Batterskull, because even without the token, you can equip it to you Restoration Angel and not have to worry about Abrupt Decay killing your creature. The recursion is also something that I feel would be super nice. I am definitely up for suggestions though. PM me any lists and feel free to tell me about any personal card choices that may even differ from the few options I have posted. Thanks again, all!


    1. I highly recommend trying them each out. Baneslayer makes profitable attacks extremely difficult but Batterskull can survive after a PtE. Sun Titan is great for Wall of Omens, Clique, Splicer, etc. one of my favorite plays is to recur Clique forcing them to have an instant speed answer as I can usually strip a sorcery speed one.

    2. What makes you so set on RiP? I run 2 surgical extraction and along with a I can wreck a GY. Relic of Progenitous is really good as well. While you may hurt Snapcaster you will be hurting your opponent's strategy worse.

    To each his own but I really like having my GY (but I run a Kitchen Finks build)
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    I'm still hoping for modern event decks Smile
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    posted a message on [Primer] Azorius Midrange (UW Midrange)
    Quote from Belflagor
    Hey guys. I have been looking into building something similar to this, and I've been wondering if Clique and Snapcaster are required to make the deck work. I'm working on a bit of a budget, but obviously if they are 100% needed to make this work I will fit them into that budget somehow. I am sure there aren't many alternatives to them. I have seen many lists without Clique so I assume that can be cut out, but Snapcaster is everywhere. I was looking into Spellstutter Sprite, but my guess is that it would end up being extremely underwhelming in the place of Snapcaster. I may be wanting to look into a more CawBlade-esque deck as well. I appreciate any and all recommendations and help that you guys are willing to give me. Thanks!


    Snapcaster is pretty necessary but Clique isn't (but I highly recommend, especially if you run Resto). Spellstutter will require you to run Clique and Mutavault and the Mutavaults will dilute the stable UW mana base.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    Quote from jeffbcrandall
    There are also a ton of impatient players with money who don't mind paying a little more to get what they want RIGHT NOW. The Commander decks and the prices/values of the singles in them will settle down soon enough. If you are willing to be patient, you should be fine. Its the same thing with new magic sets, prices always start out high and begin to settle significantly within a month or two of the release for most cards from the set.


    It's not just the CMD its everything. I understand there is supply and demand but I would rather have cheaper cards. Its just my personal preference but I also understand its a pipe dream.

    I'd love to see WotC go crazy with MMa but that won't happen either.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Off-Topic Community Thread
    At this point I'm getting tired of mtg prices. I would rather have Yugioh style reprints and a bunch of cheap staples than a $3000 collection. Everyone these days is trying to make a buck and be a step ahead of the market. I just wanna play a game I love Frown
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