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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Slarg232 »
    You all know it would be Justin Beiber!



    Speaking of, he wants to star in an Avengers movie. Depending on who/what he was I would probably have reservations about watching it.


    If he dies within the opening scene, I'm ok with it.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Quote from Gaka »
    Quote from Legion564 »
    Hey Gaka any changes to your main decklist in the last few months or no?


    None. A brief experiment with a couple less Goblins, but nothing came of it. (for now)

    There hasn't been anything interesting in the latest sets, so not much has needed to change.

    You nixed Impact Tremors and Pia and Kiran Nalaar? I thought impact tremors held its own pretty well when I played it and I like Pia and Kiran too.

    Also even if it is sad this guy isn't tutorable, Magus of the Wheel is still a wheel on a stick. I feel like its worth at least trying out. Trading Post has been borderline cuttable for some time I believe and it is also untutorable, we could try magus there (or did we already cut that?). Also Chandra Ablaze is good but the high cost and the fact that she isn't a permanent type we can abuse at all has always bothered me, maybe magus can take her place. Similar use case after all.


    Ah, Pia has been added to the main deck, and I'm still working with Impact Tremors to get the most... impact. Playing it will move a bit of the identity of the deck away from screwing with people are more towards "look at all these tokens that are killing you!" and I want to be careful about how I proceed there. Generic fun isn't fun.

    For Magus, I can totally see running it in place of Chandra. As of now, Chandra fulfils two main roles - removal and card draw. She's wonderful with Squee and Feldon, and provides "free" advantages if she sticks, which is admittedly a rough beat. I will try this swap.

    Quote from BonjourNorin »
    Gaka, I have been running Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx with pretty high success, and I was curious to know your thoughts on it.


    Nykthos isn't great for two reason. Firstly, it produces colorless mana unless you have devotion 3. Secondly, devotion does not work with tokens. This means, unless you've managed to make it to a state where you have such a board state, it's actually worse for you than a basic mountain. We run a really low land count, so you could argue that each land needs to be highly functionable. I'm of the opinion that it means your lands need to be consistent. You need colors more than you need colorless, and other people DO tend to run wasteland. It's certainly fine to play it if you feel you can gain from it, but I don't like it.

    Quote from Ilnez »
    I love the idea of this deck, but should I even bother if I don't have a recruiter?


    Recruiter is the most powerful card in the deck, but the deck functions absolutely fine without it. You can trade it out for draw, removal, or whatever you want. You'll have a few slight options taken from you, but it's not too terrible. If you can afford to buy one, you should do so - but it's not necessary.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Quote from Legion564 »
    Hey Gaka any changes to your main decklist in the last few months or no?


    None. A brief experiment with a couple less Goblins, but nothing came of it. (for now)

    There hasn't been anything interesting in the latest sets, so not much has needed to change.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Unreleased and New Card Discussion
    Well, I guess I have to make a Karlov french deck now.

    Huehuehuehue. Dude's strong and simple. I like it.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Quote from the_offspring »
    Quote from trancekat »
    Quote from krichaiushii »
    This deck might be my winningest deck yet. Altar of the Brood has been outstanding.

    The trigger headaches are there, and I am considering pulling Confusion in the Ranks to cut down a bit on them.

    Cheers!


    This post is a troll.


    Definately. You must be really drunk to consider pulling Confusion in the Ranks. I must confess I once milled my opponents to under ten cards, when I copied Genesis Chamber with a Sculpting Steel, while Altar of the Brood was already in play. Cloudstone Curio and a Goblin War Marshal made sure I had at least 8 ETB triggers each turn, not even counting landdrops nor the 3 triggers my oppenents gave me for each card they played.

    In the meantime I pulled the alter though. It's too underwhelming most of the time, and filling graveyards without being able to exile them is quite risky too.


    Don't forget - I pulled Confusion at one point (for the sake of online play, but it still counts) and since then, hell nah. It's too good.

    Altar of the Brood you should definitely cut. It literally doesn't do anything - consider that you're only taking ~1% of a deck per activation. It's going to take a long time to get anywhere with it unless you get a hilarious Warp World activation or something. I might consider playing it for that alone, but this isn't a Warp World centric deck. Sort of. Kind of.

    Suppose I'll look at the cards spoiled so far:
    Awaken the Sky Tyrant - Just no.
    Dream Pillager - Dream Crusher. No!
    Fiery Confluence - Almost good. It's too expensive for such simplistic effects - you're simply paying for the option of which to use. Yes, you can do it three times, but it doesn't fit in with the goals of Norin. It's still playable for most monored decks, though.
    Magus of the Wheel - N..ooh. Wait, what? A creature wheel? Now I absolutely know that Wizards is screwing with me, for not making it 2 power or a goblin, but at least they got the 3cc correct. I have the feeling that this will be a thing. Of course, testing will need to be done, as always!
    Meteor Volley - Say it together, class! No!
    Mizzix's Mastery - Say this sucker five times fast. Interesting, but not for us. Might be useable in a storm deck, but even then.... It's as strange as its name!

    Oh yeah, colorless. Duh!

    Blade of Selves - Wait what? This card is really damn funny, but it's not for Norin. Yes, you can attack with Norin and do silly token things. Yes, you can attack with Siege-Gang and make someone very sad. But it's an equipment with no instant value, and it's got these small words that you gotta squint to see and that just ain't me. It's 6 mana for tricks. It's not worth it.
    Sandstone Oracle - This is interesting except for the seven mana part. You know, the part that involves actually playing it! Don't do it!
    Scytheclaw - Not for us. Interesting effect, but not for us.
    Seal of the Guildpact - This would go so well with our massive spell count! Play it in every deck! If you look closely, you can see the biting sarcasm of a man without any ice cream. Why is the ice cream gone, dog? Why did you trip me and make me spill it? Why do you want to play this card?
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    posted a message on [[Duel Commander]] Duel Commander Primer (Introduction, Ban List, Rules, & More) [10-26-2016 Update]
    I really enjoyed the Partial Paris mulligan system. I can understand wanted to align with the modern Mulligan system, howevermuch I disagree with it.

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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from cryogen »
    I wish there was a way to post this in the ban list thread without getting a spam infraction.


    "Your group doesn't seem like fun! Your banlist ideas are all terrible."

    GO CRYO GO

    "Moooooom"
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Slarg232 »


    Mind you, I've never been a big fan of "Let's dismiss all world building and character growth, instead here are Space Samurai" the series. Seriously, you take out the Jedi and the Star Wars universe is so blaaaaand.


    Thus why i absolutely loved a lot of the books that really didn't care about Jedi or Sith. The Bounty Hunter series barely even dealt with them - and it was awesome.

    You've got a really cool world if you'd spend the time to dig into it. But noooooo. We need lightsabers with light-hilts for some reason.

    Quote from Jivanmukta »
    You saying Jar Jar is ok pretty much annihilates your Star Wars cred.


    I, for one, think we need MORE Jar Jar! A whole subseries devoted to him! Go!
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Galspanic »
    I see them as possible Cube additions and that's it. But that's enough to add them to my want list.

    ISBP - we need to talk about Star Wars stuff too. That movie is coming out soon and I want to see if you want Episode 7 in there with 1-6. I suspect not but visually, Jar Jar Abrams is knocking that crap out of the park.


    I still don't get the Jar Jar hate.

    He was a character in a film designed to get young kids to watch and enjoy them. He was mildly entertaining, and provided at least some measure of plot device (which is more than I can say for most comic relief characters.) Jar Jar's "use" in episode (3) was even believable. No, Jar Jar was not qualified to be a Senator. Neither are many politicians. What's important is that his intelligence, or lack there-of, was used cruelly and precisely to engineer the rise of Palpatine. I was down with it.

    Could Jar Jar have been done away with or perhaps utilized/performed better? Duh. But he was fine. It was a kids movie! Everyone who had seen star wars back in the day had grown up. I'm sure they were expecting movies along the same tone, despite Phantom Menace being marketed pretty clearly for the new generation.


    That being said, Episode 7 pisses me off. Not because it exists, but because of where it exists in the Star Wars Universe. I've got nearly every book written for Star Wars, and absolutely love how the Universe has grown and changed. They killed Chewie by dropping a goddamn moon on him. Coruscant got essentially terraformed. The Solo's have kids, and one of them went Vader. The Bounty Hunter trilogy showed us that there were other characters in the universe, and Boba Fett was both a bad-ass and humanized. We got an incredible backstory with the Heir to the Empire books, and the Grand Admiral Thrawn series. These were all series that could have been absolutely excellent retellings of novel canon. I was so hyped to see which storyline they'd adapt, or if they'd do soemthing in a different time-frame altogether.

    Nope. The books were declared non-canon after being the mainstay for Star Wars stories. Now, the shows remain canon, but make slightly less sense. A lot of the background for those shows were written in books, books which only make sense because of the world building that all the authors (and george lucas!) collaborated on.

    Instead, we've got a new storyline. This annoys me, because now I need to buy more books, and I can't order them chronologically anymore. Why Disney, whyyyyyyyyyy.

    tl;dr - JJ OK, E7 NO
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    I have discovered that alcohol fuels writing more effectively than caffeine. Oh dear.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Life1ess »
    "I'm sure glad I sold off my Magic collection years ago" said nobody ever.


    I mean, I sold everything except for my decks and any cards that I wanted to hang onto for various reasons before I left for the World. I'm pretty happy with the result. Now I get to build up a new collection from the ground up, which is two thirds of the fun. (TCG baby)
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread


    Warp Six, Mr. Sulu. Engage.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from osieorb18 »


    Did you know these people calling you?

    Also, Rise Against can be an enjoyable 4-chord song band at times. Never thought about how they would sound live, though.


    That would have been hilarious if I didn't know them. Unfortunately I associate with them near daily. Or fortunately. Whichever gets me more concert tickets.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Ulka »
    Quote from Sheldon »
    Quote from Gaka »
    I've finally got my mile time under 5 minutes again! Woohoo!




    Very nice accomplishment. I think the fastest I ever ran was 10:03 for 1.5 miles, and that was early in my AF career when I was like 155 lbs (so before I started lifting).


    Congrats to you both! I got under the 5 min threshold for the 2nd time last year. I'm currently at about a 5:22 for a mile without killing myself so Im very content. Im currently working up to get my 200s back under 21 sec but That one has been harder than lowering my mile times due to I have a much lower muscle density than I did in high school. Im currently at a 22.3 for the 200 but dropping .4 is really hard.


    I mostly wanted to hit the 5 minute mark for posterity and affirmation - that's the mark that I could hit when I ran all the time. After all the traveling I was a bit out of sorts, so I wanted to get back in form. Pretty pleased with myself, but won't be aiming to improve on it or continue going for times.

    In other news, I got dragged to a concert tonight, very suddenly and very strangely.

    About five minutes after I wake up, I'm too lazy to get out of bed. Laptop on stomach, let's browse the news. Sudden phone call.

    "...Hello?"

    "Hey! What are you doing tonight?"

    "...eh?"

    "Great! You're coming to the concert with us!"

    "...I don't have tickets..?"

    "We got you. What are you doing tonight?"

    "...Going to a concert?"

    "Yes! We'll pick you up."

    So it was an interesting wave of sound and light for four hours.

    For those interested - Let Live started the set. I'm not sure if they planned to have music playing, but the drummer was really good. I don't know if the singer was singing or if the guitarists were playing because it was just a constant blasting of sound that had me giggling at the memory of past front-row experiences. We were set up just behind the light and sound crew, so we had a clear view above the main pit. Great spot to be in.

    Second set was Killswitch Engage. My nephew absolutely loves them; I couldn't stand their style. But during the concert, I think they stole the spotlight from the title band. These guys actually played like they had music. I could distinguish notes over the cushion of sound. I could even understand -somehow- lyrics. Hell, based on what I'm used to from heavy rock/punk/metal/whatever concerts, this was quality. I actually enjoyed their set despite being prepared to hate it. Also one of their guitarists, who I shall refer to as Bandit Keith, was awesome. There was one point during a song where he walked back to the sound crew - still playing - and had a beer fed to him. This was happening about two feet from me. I was too caught up in watching this awesome unfold that I pulled my phone out too late for a good picture. I only got his back as he walked back to stage. Oh well. An opportunity missed.

    The Main Event was Rise Against. I'd never heard of their music before, but what the hell. Unfortunately, I still don't know what they can do, because everything sounded the same. I don't know if it was the sheer volume or what, but compared to Killswitch, there was a vast drop in music and an increase in random churning of sonic noise. Eh. Listening to a song hit by a studio's tuning sounds utterly and completely different compared to their live performance. Compared to other bands I've heard live, this was by far the largest difference.

    Maybe it was the enclosed venue, but I really didn't feel like there was more to their music than the tremendous bass lines. Eh.

    All in all, the concert was worth going to, if sudden. The sheer energy from all of the performers made it easy to get sucked into the beat, and watching random idiots in the mosh pit was always entertaining. Someone threw a shoe onstage, followed by a phone. At one point, Bandit Keith grabbed a beer and downed it on stage in one go, which was totally hilarious. Pretty sure he ran on alcohol for that set. Don't blame him - alcohol fueled jukeboxes have places everywhere.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Woohah »
    As a sidenote, I feel that once 3D printing comes down to around 500 for a decent printer, Minis games are looking to take a massive hit. Why spend 60$ on a tank when you could print one out at a fraction of the cost?



    I'm really interested in the methods that they come up with to cope. Should be interesting.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    I've finally got my mile time under 5 minutes again! Woohoo!
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    posted a message on Brago, King Eternal - That UW Blink Guy
    DeckMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards
    General - 1
    1 Brago, King Eternal

    Artifacts - 10
    1 Azorius Signet
    1 Fellwar Stone
    1 Mind Stone
    1 Pithing Needle
    1 Prismatic Lens
    1 Sensei's Divining Top
    1 Sword of Feast and Famine
    1 Sword of Fire and Ice
    1 Talisman of Progress
    1 Umezawa's Jitte

    Creatures - 21
    1 Cloud of Faeries
    1 Fiend Hunter
    1 Frost Titan
    1 Glen Elendra Archmage
    1 Lavinia of the Tenth
    1 Man-o'-War
    1 Mulldrifter
    1 Nevermaker
    1 Owl Familiar
    1 Restoration Angel
    1 Reveillark
    1 Riftwing Cloudskate
    1 Sea Gate Oracle
    1 Snapcaster Mage
    1 Sphinx of Uthuun
    1 Stoneforge Mystic
    1 Sun Titan
    1 Trinket Mage
    1 Vendilion Clique
    1 Venser, Shaper Savant
    1 Wall of Omens

    Enchantments - 8
    1 Banishing Light
    1 Darksteel Mutation
    1 Detention Sphere
    1 Journey to Nowhere
    1 Oblivion Ring
    1 Parallax Tide
    1 Spreading Seas
    1 Treachery

    Instants - 15
    1 Brainstorm
    1 Condescend
    1 Counterspell
    1 Daze
    1 Enlightened Tutor
    1 Force Spike
    1 Force of Will
    1 Mana Leak
    1 Mana Tithe
    1 Miscalculation
    1 Negate
    1 Remand
    1 Spell Pierce
    1 Stifle
    1 Swords to Plowshares

    Planeswalkers - 4
    1 Jace Beleren
    1 Jace, Architect of Thought
    1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    1 Tezzeret the Seeker

    Sorceries - 4
    1 Council's Judgment
    1 Gitaxian Probe
    1 Ponder
    1 Preordain

    Lands - 37
    1 Adarkar Wastes
    1 Ancient Den
    1 Arid Mesa
    1 Cavern of Souls
    1 City of Brass
    1 Command Tower
    1 Dust Bowl
    1 Flagstones of Trokair
    1 Flooded Strand
    1 Glacial Fortress
    1 Hallowed Fountain
    10 Island
    1 Mana Confluence
    1 Marsh Flats
    1 Misty Rainforest
    1 Mystic Gate
    1 Nimbus Maze
    4 Plains
    1 Polluted Delta
    1 Scalding Tarn
    1 Seachrome Coast
    1 Seat of the Synod
    1 Tundra
    1 Wasteland
    1 Windswept Heath



    Brago is infinite value if you manage to swing with him. There are plenty of ways to ensure he gets through, and once he hits the game should basically be over. You have plenty of value engines that are good on their own, plus a lot of recursion and tutoring.

    Tempo counters are to ensure that Brago can be cast as early as possible, plus ensures that you have control of the early game.

    Go forth, and blink!
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Galspanic »
    I just ripped open my 16 tier 1 and 2 Pauper decks with the intention of updating them based on MTGO's recent results. Oddly enough, in almost a year nothing has changes except that there are a few decks with Delve cards and the Khans duels are in a lot of 2-3 color decks instead of gates. But that's it. I swear, Pauper must be the most stable format ever.


    It's my opinion that everyone should have one or two pauper decks on hand. It's a format where decks never die, are literally dirt cheap, and can still hold their own against unconstrained decks now and then.

    I use them to demonstrate the power of commons and to teach newer players without breaking out a legacy deck and slaughtering them in seconds. Nobody learns anything that way. However, If I suddenly dive into mono blue delver, I can still do powerful things without breaking the bank and without breaking their soul.

    Plus, a lot of pauper decks are just plain fun (RIP Storm)
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Ulka »
    Yas Communist Krenko is coming back!


    Krenko Kannon best Krenko.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Quote from Gaka »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Jeez, Cryo, you work fast. I had deleted my double post, but you'd already merged it and I got an error, lol.




    Stop breaking the rules!

    What can I say? I'm a rebel without a cause.


    Sure thing James D:
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Jeez, Cryo, you work fast. I had deleted my double post, but you'd already merged it and I got an error, lol.


    Stop breaking the rules!
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from OwnDemon »
    Kinda makes sense not?
    We already had 3 colored and mono colored decks... It's time to get out the pairs! Grin



    More red stuff please D:
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    So I bought Rocket League three days ago...

    I've already got 20 hours on it. The game's tons of fun.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from ISBPathfinder »
    Quote from DrWorm »
    I'm never quite sure with you, but there is a little charm to the movie even though it is more than a little stupid. Everything I have seen Will Smith in I have at least liked him in (no, I did not see the one with his son). I'm one of the few people that I have heard of that actually likes most of Hancock.



    I actually really liked Hancock... I felt like you could really relate with his character being different from everyone else and not knowing who or where he is from.


    I really enjoyed the beginning of the movie. It was a fantastic antihero story. It wasn't about the glamor of being a hero, but the beginnings of a friendship.

    ...then the second half rolled around and we got the old-school love triangle and fighting because we can treatment. The ending numbed most of the beginning, but I still will catch the start to Hancock if it's ever on.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Ant-Man is decent.

    Entertaining, clearly forced but still funny jokes. Michael Pena. Awesome Avengers tie-in. Dat Stan Lee Cameo.

    4/5
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Slarg232 »
    Quote from Gaka »
    [quote from="osieorb18 »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/204409-offtopic-community-thread?comment=49466"]
    Pass a fagot around with friends and just chill.





    I know perfectly what you mean, but this just brought up a mental image of a gay friend I have being passed around at a campfire we have been planning. It's quite hilarious, because I can totally see him going along with it.


    [/blockquote]
    There is PC, and then there is real talk.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    Am I a terrible person if I feel that anybody who smokes without explicit consent of each and every person that might inhale air that has been polluted by said smoker should be burned alive?


    I rarely smoke, only the odd cigar here and there, but grew up around smokers and in highschool/college most folks were smokers of some sort.

    The marijuana smokers who were incredibly obvious about it and didn't have any regard for other people were annoying. I don't want to smell your low-quality weed and BO.

    The tobacco smokers fell into one of two categories: those who smoked because it made them feel "cool" and those that smoked to have something to do (these were almost exclusively ex-mil or still in service.)

    Of the first group, a few were actually conscientious about their smoking. These were the people who stood downwind so everyone else wouldn't be stuck breathing in the waste. Usually, they didn't give a *****. Great indicator of personality, actually. I don't keep much in touch with those folks.

    Especially when traveling, I've come to give fewer and fewer *****s about inhaling secondhand smoke. For some people and areas, smoking's just something that happens. Pass a fagot around with friends and just chill.

    I don't really mind breathing in the occasional bit of second hand smoke, but if you clearly don't give a ***** about the people around you I might be a bit annoyed.

    That being said, 90% of e-cig and vape smokers are usually pretentious douches and fall into my first category.
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    posted a message on Liliana, Heretical Healer - Back in Black!
    It's been a long time since my last deck, and I figured that I should make it one that has the only gameplan worth mentioning - attacking until something explodes.

    Skullbriar (not yet updated) is still a significantly stronger aggro option, but for brawlin' on a "budget" this will do.

    So here we go!



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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Sheldon »
    Quote from Jivanmukta »
    Quote from Sheldon »
    Bought a new house on Thursday. More correctly, a piece of land on which to build a house. It's basically the same square footage that we're currently in (under 100sqft more), but much more efficiently used. The second floor is my combined office/RPG Pit/home theater/game room--measuring a tidy 760 square feet. It will be the nerd space from hell.




    Is that where you'll laugh drunkenly about people complaining about the ban list?



    People complain about the ban list? I hadn't noticed. :p


    Personally, I'm offended by the lack of Norin on the banlist.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Oh I forgot, what about Commune with Lava Gaka? There were a few heated debates about that card on here but it looks like it didn't make your list. Did you reject it?


    The problem with Commune with Lava is that it is at its best when you have more mana than you know what to do with. If you've got six billion mana and this in hand, then hell yeah. Until that point, however, you get to stare at it with distaste. Casting it for one isn't useful. Casting it for two sucked up four mana to exile two cards you may or may not want to play now but might want to later. At the very least the cards stick around until the end of the next turn, so it's not completely useless.

    If you're playing a UR storm, this card is probably crazy useful. You can cast this for some amount at the end of turn and go into the combo turn with another X cards to play with. But we're not a combo deck. This effect isn't useful to us.

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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Yes, social sexual equality matters. No, men and women are not physically equal. Yes, We can fix the first. No, rants about the "patriarchy" aren't going to help.

    Is it EoT yet?
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from cryogen »
    You're not helping, Jay...


    You're triggering me
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from cryogen »
    Quote from Galspanic »
    Random thought of the day RE: MTG....
    If I took my 600 card EDH Cube and built it with only 3 cmc cards, how would that play?


    That reminds me. I need to look at the other EDH cubes and compare notes. I feel like my overall curve is too awkward.


    All cubes are beautiful, with or without curves.
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    posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Honestly, cries for Iona bans are just lazy deckbuilding. You have 99 cards in your deck. About 40 of those are going to be lands, leaving you with nearly 60 cards worth of toys. Among those toys, you must be aware that Iona is a possibility. If you're playing monocolor, you absolutely need to keep in mind the potential for it to drop, so you need solutions. If you dont have room for solutions within your 60 cards, rethink your list.

    It's the exact same thing as multicolored decks and Blood Moon. They know it exists, so deciding to fill your entire manabase with nonbasics is a great way to outright lose. You've got 40 lands. There is enough room for at the very least one basic per color. Furthermore, you need to learn to not be greedy with fetching. If you see a red deck that you absolutely know has blood moon, there is nothing wrong with fetching Forest over a Bayou. Just drop the black source next turn. You won't lose anything off of it. If you absolutely need that black mana now, ask yourself if doing so will cripple you with moon?

    I've taught many a player about proper manabases thanks to moon effects.

    So is Iona problematic for casual play? Why would it be? It's like watching someone drop Emrakul in a Zendikar block draft. It's the exact same "oh I'm dead" feeling, and there isn't much you can do about it... unless you plan for a big ass noodle monster to come down. Just one card. Go for it. Hell, I've won games with Norin after an Iona was dropped naming red. I've got a ton of solutions in the deck, and I don't need to spend red cards to find those solutions. I've built my deck to have outs to Iona, but I'd still consider it to be a casual, if evil, deck.

    Also, this is a damn multiplayer format. If you don't kill Iona it's probable that someone else will. If they don't, the problem is less the card being used and more the people you're playing with. I think they want you dead.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Quote from Meecht »
    Do you think any of the Dash creatures are worth inclusion? They all interact well with Confusion in the Ranks, Lightning Berserker could be pumped for a Fireball-like effect off Warstorm Surge, and Vaultbreaker allows for repeatable looting unless he dies in combat.


    Absolutely not. None of the effects for using Dash are effective enough or cheap enough to work in a multiplayer deck. The biggest issue with dashing is that it's a persistent cost. In the case of Vaultbreaker, it's three mana per turn to loot unless you want to just cast it. In that case, why not just tap Rummaging Goblin?
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Quote from Alex916 »
    Gaka you didn't mention Outpost Siege or impact tremors and i don't see them in your list, did you overlook these or did you not find them to be worthwhile perhaps?


    The style I'm currently playing doesn't like outpost siege. It's too slow as a draw engine and not powerful enough as a damage source.

    Impact Tremors, I was not aware of... It fits in real nice with the "low cost" goings. I could see playing it, as two mana for global threat is pretty nice. I think that right now it's not the card I want, but I am always prepared to be wrong.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    OK folks, it's been over a year and change, but it's here. A change to the deck!

    Two of the changes are actually old ones - but I left for parts unknown before I got the chance to update the front. Those are:

    + Feldon of the Third Path
    + Daretti, Scrap Savant

    - Trading Post
    - Viashino Racketeer

    I long said that Racketeer was only a placeholder until something better came along, and it sure did. The second cut, Trading Post, is one that will remain on the "still good" list forever, and might pop back in at some point. In fact, the way that I'm envisioning the next few sets, it might be sooner rather than later.

    Coming in is Feldon and Daretti from the commander set. Both of these guys give us some insane utility for effective costs. In a chaotic game, just one well-timed revive could be what you need to win. Both of these are making Myr Battlesphere look holy moly attractive. I anticipate this to come at some point in the future, if there is a good enough reason to drop some of the goblin package.

    But that's only two changes! What's the third?

    + Pia and Kiran Nalaar

    - Mind's Eye

    No Flameshadow Conjuring! Tokens are too important and you don't get as much use out of this as you would hope.

    This change is partially obvious, and partially strange. A lot of people are in love with Mind's Eye. Yes, you can do crazy things with Honor-Worn Shaku, but the way things are going, it's harder to justify a 5 mana artifact that doesn't actually impact the board itself. There are arguments to be made about Conjuror's Closet, yes, but for now, it's good to go in my book. That may change by the next set or two, or if someone can really persuade me. It's also harder to justify holding mana up to draw when we have so many more effects to play. I'm losing less interest in mind's eye by the second.

    So let's discuss Pie and Cake. S/He is basically a beetleback chief with benefits. Those benefits include flying artifact tokens and the ability to use those tokens and other artifacts as lethal weapons. Really, it's a sexy card. At four mana, you're getting a ton of value for it. At 2 power, it's tutorable. There was no way this wasn't going into the deck.

    So, the future. Where is this deck going?

    With the printing and inclusion of cards like feldon and daretti, it's getting harder to get by with "just" tokens. Many of the effects that we used to swear by are starting to lose value in comparison to dropping something like a Myr Battlesphere. I mean, there are now two more ways to revive it, and there is so much synergy in the deck. It's looking really, really tasty... but for now I'm not going to go there.

    What needs to happen is a discussion - are goblins the way to go, or are specifically useful goblins the key? Is casting Goblin Recruiter better than casting something with a useful effect now?

    Obviously Wizards needs to print some useful things in order to make this reality, but we've been well on the way for two years. This being said, I still want to see about dropping the curve even lower. I want to be able to make full use out of stuff like Cloudstone Curio, and less of things like Tuktuk Scrapper or Aftershock. (two or three cc goblin artifact etb killer please)

    Right now the four and five mana points are the points where Norin's cards start to do scary things alone - but we've still got a lot of one and two mana tricks that outshine them. It's these tricks that I want to focus on, rather than dropping standard 4-drop useful card... but I also want to have room for a bomb that changes the outcome. Wizards, get to printing interesting cards for me. Seriously.

    In any case - that's where we stand as of now!
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from spike4972 »
    awful and offensive.


    This was by far the least offensive Max ever.
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    posted a message on Thoughts about the Duel Commander from all over the word:
    Quote from 3drinks »
    Quote from KriggY »
    Cockatrice has fine interface. Its like real game, you have to do everything manualy but I dont think its bad - at least for free to play app.


    I'm probably in the minority, but I actually prefer MTGO for automated rules enforcement and not having to manually do everything. Shame it doesn't support DC though.


    My biggest gripe with MTGO is how unintuitive it is, and traditional shortcuts are systematically impossible to do.

    Cockatrice is quicker once you get used to it.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Galspanic »
    Quote from Gaka »


    Yup. Solid addition to the Mad Max saga. Can't wait for the next one.


    That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard you say. It wasn't an addition to some tried and true movie series - it was reinventing almost to the point of apologizing for how terrible the first and third were. The second is good low budget post apocalyptic 80s fare, but 1 and 3 were steaming piles of *****. Fury Road wasn't part of the old trilogy except in name and aside from Road Warrior I think that "saga" could get buried and forgotten about forever.

    When I first saw Fury Road (can't wait for Furry Road XXX) I was not impressed because of how huge and loud it was. I was looking for it to add to the old ones and those required a certain amount of grit and filth to work. This one was so clean and pretty, so I felt like we lost something. But, after a couple days I found myself really digging how it was its own thing that did a good job on its own. I heard people say that it lacked plot, but now feel like those people just couldn't connect the dots - there was plot pouring out of its ears. It just didn't have to do with Max. And making it the most pro-feminist movie I've seen in a long time was interesting. A franchise that used to use women as sex pets really got it right this time. The fact that the movie's main character wasn't even Max.... hahahah!

    Anyway, I just finished tattooing two really hot German airline stewardesses who were in town on work. One was delightfully playful and fun. The other, a stereotype of "German."


    Seriously? I thought that the original Mad Max films were awesome. I liked their take on a post-apocalyptic wasteland, and was incredibly entertaining. No, it wasn't a masterpiece of acting or filming, but the world that they created was pretty darn interesting. That sort of world has been the go-to replication for many post-apocalyptic scenarios. I mean hell, Borderlands is literally Mad Max: The Video Game.

    So when I saw Fury Road, I was prepared to watch something akin to Mel Gibson's Max. That's not what we got. We got a far more badass Max. Critics have called Fury Road "one long action sequence" and by Valhalla I was entertained by it. It dispensed with a lot of the bull***** present in far too many films these days, and even gave us a more human War Boys. A huge salute to the lack of product placement. Terminator, Jurassic World, and the latest Michael Bay transformers crap were all guilty of entirely too much blatant advertising that didn't add to the film in anyway. The only bit that might have made practical sense was Jurassic World's naming of their "Samsung Innovation Center" but I digress.

    Yes, this Max was cleaner than past Max's. But that's not necessarily bad. As long as a film can portray a world with heart, I'm down. I was hooked the moment Max captured and ate the two headed lizard. Even just that would never fly in PC bull***** world. Hell, Max handled the Wives better than expected, considering the amount of ultrafeminist backlash I'm sure they got.

    I enjoyed this Max. It's the first film since Interstellar than made me want to see it in theaters again.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Death Flags Everywheeeeeere
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from ISBPathfinder »
    I loved the chrome paint they would spray on their mouths. I found it really amusing.


    The first time they did it I was really confused, I assumed it was a drug or something. And then "Shiny and Chrome" and I was like.. holy crap.


    I really like the way how they just let the world work and didn't try to explain why things were the way they were. Made you actually want to care about the world of Max.

    Shoutout to Guitar Guy.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Life1ess »
    Quote from Gaka »



    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079501

    C'mon, heathens.



    Have you seen Fury Road? It's actually quote good.


    Yup. Solid addition to the Mad Max saga. Can't wait for the next one.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from 4Lark »
    Quote from Life1ess »
    Quote from 4Lark »
    No.

    Like this: imdb.com/title/tt1137439/

    Call and raise:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114898/

    <snip>

    Do I win yet?


    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079501

    C'mon, heathens.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Bur »

    Also, Gaka got an avvie? O_o


    I've been without for for so long, but ever since the UI update that ugly white cutout has been in the way, so I decided to spice things up a bit.

    I couldn't decide if I wanted a Norin-focused pic or going by the theme of other forums, a food picture.

    So I compromised and did both.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Hermes_ »
    I just learned that if you don't take a PPTQ as serious business,you shouldn't go Rolleyes


    It's way more fun to bring completely silly decks and then smack the grinders around. Excuses are hilarious.

    "If you had a real deck I would have won."
    "You only beat me because I didn't side for you."

    Meanwhile, at the top 8...

    trololololol
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Oh the profile picture jokes
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Galspanic »
    and they don't pursue. Idiots.


    This is literally so they can't get sued by either the thief or the worker if anything happens and is an extremely common practice.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Moxnix »
    I'm down at the Allstar game I'm already drunk and I have box seats life si good what a great day to get drunk eat says he's and watch baseball


    Except then you're in cinci, which is torture all its own.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from cryogen »
    Quote from Gaka »


    You don't. Or else you'd be seeing double LED -> Ad Naus.

    You cast the spell, utilizing the mana from whatever other sources. Only then can you activate LED, it's a mana ability with a unique timing restriction, and a cost that happens to be the loss of your hand.



    Well that makes a lot more sense now.

    Wants to play DDFT. Can't tie shoes without help.

    On that note, what makes fetches so significant that they are included in the title? ER wouldn't tell me.


    It's a bit more Top reliant than some other DD decks. There is a sacland doomsday list that's pretty good for learning how to play the style.

    Basically it tells you what type DD you're playing.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from cryogen »
    Quote from Gaka »


    A fetch's ability is an Activated Ability. These are good to stifle. You're getting a land, you're not using the fetch for mana.

    LED's ability is a mana ability - it's an ability that gives you mana. It just so happens that the cost for it is to discard your whole hand.


    Yes, you are paying for the cost (something you do in order to use the ability in the first place) in order to tap it for mana (uncounterable mana ability). What I still don't get is how you can tap it for mana, use that mana to cast a spell in your hand, then discard your hand as part of the payment.


    You don't. Or else you'd be seeing double LED -> Ad Naus.

    You cast the spell, utilizing the mana from whatever other sources. Only then can you activate LED, it's a mana ability with a unique timing restriction, and a cost that happens to be the loss of your hand.

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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Ratwohl »
    Quote from Weebo »
    Quote from Life1ess »
    I believe there was an era where it was possible, although it would have been with Interdict I imagine. If not I'm a cheater and I can live wit that.


    Could be. I don't really know the history of LED. Someone tried to Stifle one on camera at the GP a couple weeks ago (after naming it with Pithing Needle), which turned out about as well as you would expect.


    Wait, you can Stifle a fetchland, but no LED, because the first one gives you mana via lands (as intended in this game) and the last one gives you mana? Yeah...


    A fetch's ability is an Activated Ability. These are good to stifle. You're getting a land, you're not using the fetch for mana.

    LED's ability is a mana ability - it's an ability that gives you mana. It just so happens that the cost for it is to discard your whole hand.
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    posted a message on 10 New Generals - Let's talk.
    This isn't a bad way to get back into the swing of things, so I'll tackle the new legends from a fresh perspective:


    Hixus, Prison Warden: As a straight up beater, this dude is pretty sexy. A 4/4 body isn't anything to scoff at. He's got flash for combat tricks, and he has his ETB for hilarious post-combat pseudo-wiping.

    As a general, he provides an open invitation to attack. Swing and see what happens. However, he doesn't actually do anything - his game plan is fairly obvious. Worse, if you aren't going to be winning using the combat step, he does nothing.

    As part of the 99 he might be useful in certain underdeveloped metas. He's still just fine on his own, and once people know of his existence he provides a decent deterrent.

    2/5

    Kytheon, Hero of Akros: Gideon part one. Extremely easy to flip, with self-protection built in. Essentially gives you a 4/4 with some toys in a properly furnished deck.

    He's far superior as a general to a 1v1 deck than anything else. His usefulness in a multiplayer scenario is questionable at best, although copying his posture is a sure way to get smacked by someone.

    Unlike most other white dudes, this guy isn't great with equipment - once he becomes a planeswalker that's a lot of mana invested in not a lot of anything. If you want to dedicate yourself to a one-man army, there are better options, although most removal isn't an issue for Kytheon thanks to his three mana "screw you" effect.

    2/5

    Alhammarret, High Arbiter: Pretty hilarious ETB effect. If you can get an infinite blink engine going you can lock the table, and if you have blue mana you can just counter whatever you can't name. I forsee some pretty hilarious (for one person) lock decks with this guy, but I don't expect them to last for very long. His seven mana barrier means that there is plenty of time to just kill the dude, which is nice.

    Don't think about dropping this guy in a regular 99. Unless you've got some specific niche lock deck going, you're better off paying seven mana to praise Norin further. There are better options.

    2/5

    Jace, Vryn's Prodigy: Solid filter either at the helm or in the 99. Specific decks looking for looting will go straight here - he's got added bonuses tacked on. Flipped Jace has a mostly useless +1, a semi-useful -3 (time warp go), and one of the dumbest mill-ults. Honestly, Jace's flipped form isn't great. Built around, it has the potential to do great things.

    I feel Jace will see more 1v1 play than multiplayer. A 0/2 has its place in certain aggro metas. In those same metas, his +1 will actually do something useful. I generally just like the design behind this card. He's obvious and interesting all at the same time. Cool stuff.

    3/5

    Kothophed, Soul Hoarder: Holy efficient removal batman. Turns all of your removal spells into cantrips, and wipes into mass draws. A 6 mana 6/6 seems to be standard for black, and it's not as though black has difficulties reaching that number. He's a demon, which is relevant, and he's got flying, which is equally relevant.

    You'll see both 1v1 and multiplayer lists pop up for this guy. You might even see him the 99 of certain decks. Kothophed is probably the most interesting black draw spell to pop up for some time now. Beware red and white players killing you with geddon.

    4/5

    Liliana, Heretical Healer: I've always liked Liliana as a character. The Healer has done nothing to change that.

    At the first stage, Lili is an insanely good 2/3 for 3 with lifelink. There is really nothing else that can be said for that. Lifelink is underrated, and a solid 3 butt will survive most utility critter beats. This leaves big dudes. I heard black has removal. When you pop in another critter, Lili acts as both protection for that creature (not wanting lili to flip) as well as remaining true to your needs as a player. If you do choose to flip her, you still get a critter. This is awesome!

    So let's see what she does flipped. +2 is a lili standard. You'll most likely be playing some black aggro deck in 1v1 with lili, and You won't have too many issues with shoving Bloodghasts into your graveyard. The first ability being a plus two is extra relevant because holy crap her -x is awesome. It's a no-strings-attached reanimate! You're playing black aggro with lili (right guys) so it'll be efficient and they'll be dead. Simply hitting the -2 button gives you bob back. And then you have the ult. If ***** dies, you're happy. Holy crap!

    5/5 in 1v1, 3/5 in multiplayer.

    Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh: Don't even think about playing this in multiplayer. This is a 1v1 gal, plain and simple.

    It's really easy to flip Chandra. Swing and then press the Lightning Bolt button. Once flipped, stab them for two more, or kill a critter that somehow decided it didn't want to block. Ulting with her is a great form of reach, but by that point they better be dead already.

    Unfortunately you can't go infinite with her tap ability - wizards has decided that was Unfun (tm) and won't let you. At three mana you're looking at a point in mono red where you're looking for the end game, which is fine. If she had haste I'd give her the seal of instant generalship to any red 1v1 deck, but wisely wizards decided that haste was Unfun(tm) and did not include it. For spell-heavy aggro, go here.

    3/5 in 1v1, 1/5 in multiplayer

    Pia and Kiran Nalaar: I put Pie and Cake in Norin.

    5/5

    Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen: An interesting elf card that... gives you reach. ha. ha.

    It's a Lord, which could be useful, and gives you life, which isn't useful but could be. As a general, you've got much better choices for elf-ball decks, but in certain metas might be just the ticket. He's alright in the 99 for those same metas, but is once again shoe-horned into an elf-centric role. As he's only a 3/4 for four, green decks have superior options for Standard Beatsticks(tm) and won't really care, unless you're running 9+ mana elves. He may be okay in that case.

    Can I just give a shout out to Wizard's naming team?

    3/5

    Nissa, Vastwood Seer: Don't be dumb. If you're running green and you like lands, you're playing Nissa in the 99.

    5/5
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    posted a message on The Dream Multiplayer Ban List and the State of the Format (2015 ed)
    Quote from IMProgenitus »
    B-b-b-but you should've had a swords to plowshares!



    There is something to be said for spot removal. Everyone should deeply consider running it. If you're in a multi-colored deck, having a specific answer to a specific problem is a great way to ensure that it's not a problem. If your deck ceases to run effectively after tossing in 4 or 5 spot removal spells, then you need to drastically reconsider some card choices and you need to learn exactly what it is that makes your deck tick.


    That being said, there is also something to be said for overly effective engines. An early Sol Ring turns the game less into a battle between players and more of a "my deck runs more efficiently than yours." The first one to gain the largest advantage from having two free mana wins. It's really difficult to come back from a turn 2 fact or fiction generated from a permanent resource. It compounds your advantage far too easily. I don't like Sol Ring as a card, but you've got to admire the sheer power that it has in nearly any deck.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from cryogen »
    Quote from TheEndIsNear »


    "And you never win?"

    "Naw, I just get a kick, out of going to tournaments with folks who take the game super seriously, and I do things a bit off. Like playing a slightly off version of decks with a few cards that are actually game breakingly good against stuff I'd usually do badly against. I usually drop after the first round, but selling my car to buy these cards was totally worth it."

    This is how I imagine it like, 6 hours later.


    I think that is an actual Gaka quote.


    Astral Steel Storm, Legacy PTQ top 16. Never forget.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Quote from Ted »
    Good to see you back, old chum.

    I've yet to read all the thread, but what were your thoughts on the goblin welder planeswalker?



    Yup, He's in there. Daretti is sweet.

    Quote from Meecht »
    Any thoughts on Sword of the Animist? The trigger is on attack, so you still get the land if you equip to Norin and swing.


    This is the wrong kind of ramp for Norin. You do get the trigger when attacking with Norin, but you need to spend mana to do so. Early on, that mana is better spent advancing the board. Later on, you don't need the mana.

    This would be ok in something like Godo, but for Norin i think it's too cute of an interaction for this specific build. Other than the ramp, SoA doesn't really do anything useful. The +1/+1 isn't gamebreaking and it simply costs too much to get going. Four mana for the first land? Kinda steep.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Life1ess »
    Stifling an LED is as close to heroin as I'll ever get.


    So I was playing Spanish Inquisition, the turn-one kill storm deck in legacy, against Doomsday combo. He has basically no way to do anything to me barring a turn 1 discard effect, or a silence mid-combo, but his opener of Usea - made both of those options bad. Basically, unless he brainstorms into a one-of force or something, I win, right?

    So I go, and am pretty wary about what he might have. I try to bait out any interaction, and decide to play around daze. I don't know what this guy is running. Go for my first draw spell, and he lets it through. Okay, I guess he doesn't have any counters? Tentatively go all-in on another D4, and he lets it go. Ok, I guess I win. LED -> Infernal Tutor, crack LED. OK?

    Yup.

    Sure thing. Storm count 11, Tendrils of Agony. I'm all ready to shake his hand for a wonderfully played game, when he decided it's time to tap that Usea and reveal the SOLE COUNTERSPELL IN HIS DAMN DECK .... Flusterstorm.

    I've never come so close to flipping the table. I did, however, knock over my chair in my shock and awe of standing.

    Like, seriously? Mainboard Flusterstorm? One-of? In Doomsday? And he HAS IT?

    Damn it.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from cryogen »
    Quote from Sheldon »


    It has zero chance of getting emergency banned. It has as close to near zero chance as possible of ever getting banned.


    Yeah, I think that even *I* would start to lose faith in you guys if you banned it.



    You know what a nine mana mass reset that advances the board state says to me?

    Ban me..!

    Dude, you can't just mess up a two hour long game like that. It's not cool. We spent so much time sitting on our thumbs and this one guy comes along and spends only nine mana and just ruins it all. I mean, come on - I was clearly going to win next turn until this happened and now someone else won.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from cryogen »
    Ended up 2-1, won two packs. My pool way horrible monetarily, with that mythic Archive being the best card. Still waiting for the round to end so I get my prize packs. Those will probably be *****ty as well because that's how I roll.


    You need to do what I do at every pre-release, and go purely for ties. Draft the derpiest, slowest possible deck you can, and screw up the standings as much as possible.

    Innistrad Memory's Journey + Runic Repetition + Gnaw to the Bone 0-0-5 never forget.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Quote from the_offspring »
    Foundry of the Consuls --> Looks good!


    The problem with Foundry is that you're paying 5 mana plus the actual land (so effectively six) for only a pair of fliers. And you can only realistically do this once. Let's also point out that this land produces colorless instead of red. It's just not worth it.



    Quote from dnLL »
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    Quote from Silenciaco »
    Flameshadow Conjuring could be potentially good, yet i feel that it has a better home in Kresh or some other "creature matters" deck.





    I don't feel that this is really the case; it's another one of those cards that when the dust settles, gives us a lot more output of useful triggers to work with.



    Well the rule has always been when they cost that much they should be winning by themselves. That clearly does not meet that requirement. At minimum it requires something with etb triggers in play so you can duplicate Norin. And extra red mana every time you want to use it. And probably playing other creatures as well to duplicate them too.

    All in all feels very win more to me. But gaka seems to like it so I'm sure he'll test the hell out of it and give us a full report.

    Gaka still plays Conjurer's Closet according to the front page. This is a win-more card.

    Each players have their own preferences when playing a deck. I can play Jareth in my mono-white only because it's the first rare I opened in a pack, even if it's not really good. It all comes down to personal choices and this is what defines the format. This is why EDH is so cool. If you like abusing Myr Battlesphere, then you will like the interaction with Closet and Flameshadow, especially with Ogre Battledriver and Kiki-Jiki.

    Pia and Kiran is the only interesting card in this set in my opinion. It's a really good card, it's just a matter of theme/flavour at that point, because it's definitely superior to the 4-CMC goblin alternative, and it can give serious competition to Mogg War Marshal, Goblin Marshal and Siege-Gang Commander too. I'm really starting to consider it, flying creatures are just good in this format, and I probably don't need to have that many tutorable goblins doing nearly all the same thing. It also generates artifacts, which is also a good thing in this deck. Tutorable with Imperial Recruiter and Gamble, and the activated ability is just a really good and relevant bonus too. This could make Ugin's Nexus more playable you know, having Welder and Daretti already.



    I play Conjurer's Closet because it's awesome. Something something value, something something artifact.

    Pie and Cake are really the most interesting card in terms of what we value the most. It's a token generator that does something else. Those tokens fly, which as mentioned are absolutely huge, and those tokens can be sacrificed for The Greater Good (the greater good) in a fiery ball of fire. I really do have a certain eloquence about me.

    So far as the "win by itself" rule - Pie and Cake definitely count. Dropping it gives you instant access to on-demand removal that synergizes with Confusion in the Ranks and Genesis Chamber. Basically it's a human Siege-Gang. The more I talk about it the more I want it now, and the hungrier I get...

    My biggest question for it is how the deck will progress from here. We're slowly, slowly approaching to an artifact renewal theme, and I wonder if this style is superior to Krenko's goblin spam backup-main-plan.



    In terms of Flameshadow's usefulness - Once again we're confronted with the question of "does it win by itself" ... the answer is certainly no, but the answer in magical christmas land is yes. What it does is add double the value to all of your threats, of which we run many. Arguably the constant cost is a huge downside, but I really like the potential gains. See Closet.

    I'm not going to outright dismiss it until I try it, but damn if I don't like what it can do.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Slarg232 »
    I used to be a planeswalker like you..




    But then you took a Crovax to the Squee?



    Serrated Arrows to the Krark's Thumb...
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Yup! I'm back! Lots of traveling has gotten in the way of doing much else, but that's okay.

    I think I left for Belize and then a few road trips through the continental US without updating the front list to include both Daretti and Feldon, so tonight I'll make those changes.. barring any sudden phone calls involving expensive alcohols....

    It was nice to play magic with some folks in Tampa Bay, Houston, Atlanta, and Phoenix. Y'all know who you are. But you're no longer important! Ha!

    It's also nice to see a lot of really cool things from Origins that could possibly make the list, if not change how it functions.

    We're missing a lot of commons and uncommons, but I don't think that that will be an issue for discussing what is out in this set. Here's to hoping one and two drop token producers.

    Let's just go down the list of what's out now:

    Abbot of Keral Keep - Cheap, efficient, not for us. This is pretty handy for any R/x aggro decks though.

    Avaricious Dragon - Draw, that's good. Discard, that's bad. Not tutor-able by any current means, and doesn't do anything useful.

    Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh//Chandra, Roaring Flame - Just like abbot, this is pretty cool for an R/x deck. Actually, it would be really cool to have her at the helm of a list. I'm pretty sure that I can find a way to make that stuff infinite in mono red.... but it's not for us.

    Embermaw Hellion - Expensive, and most of our "damage sources" end up being colorless or lethal without help. Nope.

    Enthralling Victor - I kinda like this guy as a metaspecific pick. Maybe someone likes spamming Fauna Shaman. Maybe Birds of Paradise really wants to generate red mana before sacrificing itself to the torturous god of Skullclamp. It's pretty cool, but it's also expensive. If you want to play it, make sure you know why you're playing it. I won't be.

    Exquisite Firecraft - I just want to point out how cool this card's name is. Exquisite Firecraft. Four-of.

    Flameshadow Conjuring - Ello, poppit. "Whenever a nontoken creature enters the battlefield under your control, pay r. If you do, put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of that creature. That token gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step."

    That's pretty damn sexy. If I'm remembering the new(forever!) legend rule, this means if you feel like it you can pay for Norin and sacrifice the copy instantly, giving you triggers for Pandemonium and Warstorm Surge. Doesn't proc Genesis Chamber again, but oh well. It's four mana, which is okay, but it's triple colorless, which is good. I will definitely be experimenting with this sucker.

    Ghirapur Gearcrafter - The key part here is that these tokens fly. It's only one, so for three mana this dude isn't worth it, but damn if the prospect of flying tokens doesn't make me happy.

    Magmatic Insight - Red Draw. Nothing to see here for us, lands are more valuable than Squee.

    Pia and Kiran Nalaar - It's pie and cake! At first I was really not into this card, but then I read it a few more times. Damn! It's a Beetleback Chief that turns myr into firebombs. Is this the beginning of moving away from the Goblin subtheme? It's going to get really hard to justify many of the goblins if stuff like this comes out.

    Pyromancer's Goggles - It needs to be mentioned. Just don't do it. Don't look at this, don't think about this. It's only good in very specific decks and that deck isn't helmed by Norin.

    Good to be home ...for now!
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Sheldon »
    I have Birthing Pod in one deck, Karador. Because I make regular changes and probably play the deck at most a dozen times a year (the hazards of having so many decks), I only vaguely remember what CMC creatures are in the deck (I certainly remember some which will never leave, like Duplicant, Angel of Despair and Ashen Rider). In the interest of time, would you allow me a small cheat sheet with my creature list on it sorted by CMC? What slippery slope argument would you make against such an allowance?


    I'd think, unless you were planning on using such a sheet in tournament play, that it's totally cool. As ISB implied, the nature of the format is pretty chill. I don't think anyone would mind if they had the interests of time in mind. Efficient turns means more plays. More plays means more games. More games means more Norin. Who could say no to that slope?

    On the downside - it could be construed as "cheating" by some less savory elements. I can easily imagine folks getting truly upset about this and might, out of some pettiness, declare a need for a similar list. In before everyone has an organized decklist on hand at all times.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from ISBPathfinder »
    I saw you posting to the modern elves the other day WF Thumbs Up

    Have you built it yet or was it more of an inquisitive sort of post? I don't actually remember what you posted offhand.



    I, too, have posted to modern elves.

    The conversation went like this:

    "What about.."

    "This isn't Legacy"

    "... okay, how about.."

    "Nor vintage"

    "..."
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Man, months of traveling across the continent(s?) and I come back to a ton of really neat things for Norin. Time to crack the rust and get to fiddlin'
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Bur »
    Quote from Gaka »
    So I'm back from my trip 'round the world.

    Hi!


    How was your trip? Where did you go?


    Belize! It was absolutely awesome!

    I can tell some stories if wanted. Including Fred, the Creole style snapper. I have pictures somewhere....
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    So I'm back from my trip 'round the world.

    Hi!
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Actually, I've been thinking of dropping Conjurer's Closet. Hell, I might cut Mind's Eye anyways. Closet has that thing that I have always stated that I do not like - it's incredibly useless without a board in the first place. Cheap, useful things are always better than expensive, useless things. True facts.

    6cc Chandra isn't on the board, or anywhere near to it. The + ability is so underrated. It's not often that you get four damage in red. Four damage is a ton! Kill that Bob, kill that Stoneforge, kill that Zur, kill that 0/1 kobold...

    On that note, Flametongue Kavu has sometimes entered my list for pretty much this reason. I love blowing things up - spot removal is the most underutilized aspect of EDH. Most players seem to denounce it in favor of costly wipes that might not be quick enough to effectively change the flow of the game.
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    posted a message on [[Duel Commander]] Geist of Saint Traft
    So almost every deck that uses the combat step in duel commander would likely be sleeving this up, if they could spare a slot in the 99 -

    Hero's Blade 2
    Artifact -- Equipment (U)
    Equipped creature gets +3/+2.
    Whenever a legendary creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may attach Hero's Blade to it.
    Equip 4
    The best swords are forged with dragonfire.

    I like it, and will test the card out before FRF is released. Smile


    Hero's Blade is actually pretty useless. You're paying six mana to equip if you're not living the dream and casting Geist (which makes this terrible to draw after you've played Geist) and it doesn't actually do anything. +3/+2 isn't worth it. I'd MUCH rather play Pike and get First Strike, which I consider to be more valuable than a butt.

    Each piece of equipment needs to be good on its own, since they're literally useless without creature presence. Hero's Blade fails that test miserably, despite the cute interaction of T2 blade T3 Geist.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from sadgasm »
    I can't do ghost pepper anything. I like spicy but I don't like painful spicy; I draw my line at habenero.


    When the heat starts to take away from the flavor is where I draw the line. I don't mind hot - but hot for the sake of hot and not to improve on the dish doesn't sit with me.
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    posted a message on [[Primer]] Norin the Wary - Heads I win, Tails you lose.
    Quote from ninjajinx »
    Pandemenium trigger on the stack! Wink


    There is always commander damage Norin!

    But uh... no.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Bur »
    Oooh. Europe. Do you already know where you'll be going?


    Not yet! I'm not one to plan ahead. Much less fun that way.

    In related news - looks like I'll be in Houston on Sunday night. Depending on how transport works out I may be able to run around and play some games, if anyone has a store recommendation...
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Dechs Kaison »
    Whatcha traveling for? If it's vacation, that sounds like a long one. I'm preemptively jealous.

    Since I started traveling for work in 2013, I've really wanted to get out and see Europe. Enjoy it out there.


    Two week kickback involving tourist traps such as Ancient Ruins, Deep Dark Caves, Big Ass Hole Filled With Water, Extravagantly Named Islands, and Whatever Alcohol I Can Get My Hands On. Cruise Control For Cool.

    Europe's currently looking like a faint hope, but I do want to spend some time running around. No fun in being surrounded by the same environment day after day.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Dechs Kaison »
    Hey Gaka. How you been?


    Getting ready to spend a few weeks in Belize, and then possibly Europe til Summer starts up. Burn money buuuuuuurn.
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    posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    Quote from Dechs Kaison »
    Juwdah, orenmanibnida!

    (That's Korean for "Long time no see." I may have butchered the correct spelling.)


    Sorry, but without a soundcloud of it I can't accept this.
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