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  • posted a message on [INN] So, how did your prerelease go?
    But drafting isn't supposed to be about value. I suppose everyone has their own reasons for drafting, and yes, I get disheartened when I pull no good bombs or anything when I draft, but at the same time, drafting is about a different play experience than standard, sealed, etc... and yes, you pay for that experience. I used to open packs and be pissed off that I didn't get a great rare or a mythic. In fact, I was with a friend the other day and he opened a Time Reversal. I said "congrats, you got the worst mythic in the set. His response was "at least its a mythic." So opening packs he has a great outlook on things. So the last several packs I opened had junk in them (not counting the INN pre-re as I got uber-lucky there) but in the end, I don't care. I open packs because of the rush of maybe pulling that money card! That feeling that you get after opening 3-4 packs of junk for the next pack to hold Garruk or Liliana is a rush that I WANT to feel, and the only way to feel that is to crack packs.

    You hear it time and time again. If you are looking for value then just buy the singles. You will almost NEVER get your value back out of opening packs. It doesn't matter which set you are drafting either.

    As for INN, well, there are several mythics and rares that break the $10 barrier, and many in the $5-$6 range. On top of that, there is potential to hit up to 3 mythics/rares in a single pack! (for example, I opened 6 packs in my sealed and pulled 2 mythics and 6 rares.) I think there's plenty of chance to make your value in a draft or sealed, but just like the regular cracking of packs, you should never go into any limited format thinking that you are going to make back your value.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [INN] So, how did your prerelease go?
    Quote from Valarin
    Turns out I had some spare time today and nothing to do so I headed out to another prerelease today. Got a mediocre pool, one "bomb", the green dude that pump a creature +X/+X where X = number of creatures you control. Still had to go three colors cause I didn;t have enough plaables in two colors to make a deck. And I STILL went 4-0.

    That's twp prereleases, both with really craptastic card pools, two 4-0's. Innistrad is such a stupidly easy format to play. It's even more basic than M12. You just put dudes on the table and turn them sideways. That's it. No strategy, no thought, just mindless bashing with creatures, some of them(the DFC's) getting better all by themselves just by not doing anything.

    This is like kiddie time MTG. I'm NOT that good a player, and sealed is my worst format by FAR, and I sweep TWO prereleases without losing a single round? That's the sign of a really stupid limited format.


    Your basis for a good or bad format is inversely proportional to how good you do? There are so many things that are different about a prerelease than any other limited format, that it can in no way be used to see how good or bad that format is. There are a LOT of new players, a largerngroup than usual, etc...

    Anyway, I didn't think it was quite the same as you perceived it. My opponent had tons of removal, etc... And was able to take out my creatures pretty easily... Plus, isn't that what you want out of a set based on the horror theme? Lots of creatures that match that theme.

    I truly enjoy this set and can't wait till next week to get my box.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [INN] So, how did your prerelease go?
    I played in the midnight prerelease. We had 83 people! Not only was that a record for the midnight, but a record for ANY prerelease!

    My pool was ok. I pulled a Garruk as the only real money card, but that was worth it. I ended up with a G/U deck splashing red with the U/R dual land for 2 instant removal spells.

    They started late, so round 1/6 didn't start until nearly 1:30. I lost 0/2 and it was too late so I bailed. Worst part was that I got Garruk in both games and he always had an answer for it!

    Still given my pool, it was totally worth it!
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on @Maro254 - More DFC to come!
    In a tweet to @Maro254, I asked:


    @mtgaaron @maro254 why no #DFC Spirits in #INN? Creature front, Spirit back, "when X dies, return it to the battlefield transformed."


    His response was:

    @cmartinell @mtgaaron The design had more #dfc including a spirit but they got cut to properly fit on the sheet. More to come though.


    This pretty much confirms that they will at least keep the Dual Faced Cards going into the next set, if not through all three. Probably pretty safe bet to say that some forms of spirit will be included which I think is great as far as flavor is concerned.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on DFC Spirits?
    I think it would be a great idea to have spirits that are dual faced cards in the next set... It would be a creature of some kind on one side, and it would have text something like "when X dies, return it to the battlefield transformed." The other side would be the spirit version.

    Another cool thought would be to have an artifact that "traps" some evil spirit (i.e. the urn in The Frighteners) that would have some way to destroy it, then return it to the battlefield transformed.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Innistrad Draft Simulator
    I've run through a couple of sealed pools. I'm glad the mix seems to be right now... but I want to be sure that I have this right...

    There is a single DFC in every pack, and it can be of any rarity.
    There might be a foil in any given pack, and it can be of any rarity.
    There is a single rare or mythic rare in every pack regardless of the above.

    This means that is is technically possible to get a total of 18 mythics in a sealed pool if you open a mythic, a foil mythic, and a DFC mythic in every pack. I know that this will not happen, but there is a minute chance of opening 3 mythics in a single pack! That's pretty cool. (this is coming from someone who has never opened a foil mythic... but it's still cool that it's possible!)

    Has anyone figured out the odds of opening Garruk (or any mythic DFC)?

    Also, on the site, how do I look at the back of a DFC card in either the draft or sealed viewer?
    Posted in: Rumor Mill Archive
  • posted a message on Innistrad Intro Decks
    I like that there are so many new cards in these decks. Too many times in the past they have had many cards from the older sets, even where one of the rare cards is from another set! That's not what the intro decks should be in my opinion, so I'm glad that there is a majority of new cards here.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Anyone else have a blast at Celebration Day?
    Quote from Barl, Artificer
    ...and of course the planeswalkers themselves if you land any PW you just win. The format is entirely luck based...


    This isn't necessarily true. I saw someone land Chandra in multiple games and he lost. I agree that with such a small pool of cards, you do have to have some decent luck, but there is a lot to be said for being a good player as well. For example... in game 1 of my first match I get an Ice Cage on my opponent's Lightning Elemental, he attacks with a different creature and casts Titanic Growth on it. After he says "I probably should have cast that on the Elemental." And he was right. It would have completely changed the game. Game 2, the EXACT same thing happened, complete with the same "I probably should have cast that on the Elemental." and again, it would have completely changed the game.

    I had some pretty good luck in my first pack. I got some removal as well as 2 griffins and a Belltower Sphinx so evasion didn't have much on me. My second pack I opened a Doom Blade so that was awesome, but my round 2 opponent had a Sun Titan and a Garruk, Primal Hunter, and a lot of other great answers for just about anything I came up with. So I lost round 2. He told me that he opened an Angelic Destiny out of his 3rd pack, but he lost round 3. I didn't hear how he did in round 4.

    Round 3 I did pretty well and won 2-0, but I can't recall the details. In my 3rd pack I got a Cemetary Reaper and went to a primarily BG deck splashing all 3 other colors for a spell or 2 in each. I did very well in round 4 and was able to get a bloodthirsted Carnage Wurm with a whole board of support. 2-0 again. In my "prize" pack I opened a Grand Abolisher. My 4 rares were:

    Dungrove Elder
    Time Reversal
    Cemetery Reaper
    Grand Abolisher

    Nothing money, but still I had a great time, all the cards were free, and I got to play Magic for about 5 hours, so I was pretty happy with the day!

    Edit: Grand Abolisher and Dungrove Elder aren't too shabby value-wise! That makes the day that much better!
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Has Magic ever caused problems in your relationships?
    My wife doesn't disapprove. In fact, she buys me cards as gifts. The Innistrad release falls on my birthday and I get to spend the morning opening my booster box, trading, etc... I've even got her family trained so that when they go out of country (which they do quite often) they will often buy me foreign packs of cards (first 2 JTMS out of 7 packs of Italian magic cards they brought back from Italy!)

    That said, I know that she doesn't like how much money I spend on the hobby... particularly when you have sets coming out every 3 months with other product coming out in-between (i.e. Duel Decks)... so it seems like I am constantly buying cards. But she's pretty cool about it. When Commander came out I told her that I could get a great deal on pre-ordering all 5, but in order to get free shipping I would have to spend another $70 on top of that, she went along with it... and that's how I got my unlimited Berserk!

    I could see that if I let it completely take over, and started spending money that was earmarked for other things on it, then it would become a problem... but I'm past that point in my life, so I don't think it ever will.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on It really does feel like magic is being ruined
    The only things that could get me to quit Magic right now is if I got bored and needed a change, or if I REALLY needed money then I might sell off my cards, but as that hasn't ever been a factor, I don't see it becoming a factor any time soon. (I've sold off cards for money, but not because I needed to. I just wanted store credit for board games.)
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Any good mtg deck builders?
    Quote from Multivac
    I'm going to recommend deckbox.org. It has no advertisements, and it also implements collection tracking with wishlists and tradelists for trading through the site.


    I second www.deckbox.org. I really like the site. I'm not to sure on it's reliability as far as my library goes, as it seems to occasionally misrepresent if I own a particular card or not. I don't really keep up with it any more, except when I'm actively building a deck and I know I own a certain card, then I'll add it to my library. It can be a great help in putting together lists of cards that you need. For example, I collect dragons, so I maintain a "dragon" decklist that contains all of the dragons that I still need. As I obtain those cards I remove them from the deck. It also has a very nice advanced search engine that I personally find much easier to use than the Gatherer.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Crazy Plays in EDH.
    First one, I'm playing Animar, Soul of Elements/Slivers against a Progenitus deck and a Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund deck. Progenitus is on the board and attacks Karrthus for the kill, leaving just me, and I'm at a very low life total, so I'm dead next turn. I have Animar w/ 3 tokens and 2 slivers on the board (one of which gives Haste). In my hand I have 3 more slivers as well as Coat of Arms and an inconsequential Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger I cast each of the slivers in my hand for 1 mana each, and the Coat of Arms... then I cast Vorinclex just because it was cool to do so for only 2 mana. Then I attacked for the win with my sliver army!

    Another game, this time I'm playing my Cromat/Planeswalker deck against the same Progenitus deck as above, and a Sol'kanar the Swamp King control deck. I hit big money and drop both Doubling Season and Rings of Brighthearth. I was going to cast Ajani Vengeant but draw Sorin Markov So I cast him then use his ultimate and copy it to control both of my opponent's next turns. At the end of my turn I cast the Ajani and use it to keep something tapped... just to get that last loyalty to be able to ultimate next turn. My biggest problem is that Progenitus had recently used Riku of Two Reflections to copy his Magmatic Force and my board is taking the biggest hit from it. I didn't get to do much with the Swamp King's turn except waste a spell, but on Progenitus' turn I used the Magmatic Force to kill of one of them, so now I'm only taking 3 points per upkeep from the remaining one. I then get back to my turn and Progenitus uses his Magmatic Force to ping me for 3 when he should have hit Ajani... but he didn't so I ultimate Ajani and copy it to both opponents. It takes a few more turns but at this point I get Mana Reflection on the board, drop a Karn Liberated, take out a couple of items for a couple of turns, then drop a couple of Titans and Cromat. Both opponents had started to make a come-back, but it was just too much for them to handle and I won again! Had the Progenitus player hit Ajani with the Magmatic Force rather than me, it would have been a completely different game.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Planeswalkers
    I love Planeswalkers, so I built a whole deck around them! My first attempt had EVERY planeswalker except Nissa for obvious reasons, and I tried to include cards that would at least provide some outlet for each of the PWs that I had (i.e. I made sure to put several red instants and sorceries to take advantage of Chandra).

    That deck didn't work great, so I re-vamped it and took out several PWs. I think I'm sitting at 18 out of the currently available 24. I also amped up the support creatures... and the deck is really nice now.

    Typically I'll use PWs if they can be useful in the deck. Obviously, every red PW is going into a mono-red deck. There's just no reason not to... but I have an Animar deck that I'm pretty sure only has the 2 Garruks in it, though I could put in a Chandra or two, Jace, etc...
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [DD:AvNB] Duel Decks: Ajani vs. Nicol Bolas (decklists in first post)
    I'm having trouble locating a copy. I don't really have an LGS that's easy to get to, and none of the big box stores (Target and Wal-Mart) in my area of Southern California (Inland Empire) seem to have gotten them in stock yet. I'm hoping its just a delay due to the holiday weekend. THIS time I'm adamant about not driving out of my way and paying inflated prices at an LGS since whenever I do I find it at the retail stores the very next day!
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on opening up shop
    Quote from the_cardfather
    The point is moderation. Maybe you teach 5 people to play and give it to the winner, or sell it at a discount.

    His point was: If you think you are going to open a store crack 5 cases keep all the mythics and pimp promo cards for yourself to go play the pro tour you are mistaken. Your customers MUST be first. Just look at all the people who are complaining they cant buy FTV stuff at retail. It wouldn't be so bad if half of them weren't hypocritical. (The store shouldn't make extra on these, but I should be able to flip them on ebay for $50).

    It puts the store in such a bind because it wants to cater to the Commander player who wants 6 of the cards to put in his deck, but Joe Shark is the one doing the complaining on how he can't get 4 of them at retail to pad his collection and make money at the same time with no risk, so he's badmouthing the store convincing casual players not to go there cause the store is a rip off artist.

    I honestly haven't figured out a fair way to sell these w/out causing drama.


    No in the case I'm talking about you just keep the opened games in the store and check them out to customers, etc... I've seen some stores that rent games out for $10 for 3 nights or something like that as well.

    As for the FTV stuff you are talking about, the difference comes in the kind of store. I know a local comic shop that sells MTG but only packs, etc... They don't deal in singles. He has told me that when they get stuff like FTV they sell it at retail. When the last one came out as far as I know they never got it, and I called every day for a week. In the end, once they get the product, the shop has paid for it, and as such they can do whatever they like with it. It would seem silly to me to sell an FTV set at retail when the online stores have it hiked up in price. Things that you could do as a retailer to help... sell it at retail, but hold a drawing for the people that actually get to buy it, and limit each one to a single copy. This is probably the way I would sell them if I had a store. You could even tie it into a tournament, either offering the top 8 the option to buy the set at retail or offer the set as a prize, etc...

    As a store owner, I wouldn't give a crap about Joe Shark, and I would take the steps above to either distribute at retail randomly or as prize support. I would probably also horde a few copies to put out at a later time at an increased price.
    Posted in: Magic General
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