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  • posted a message on Grixis Death's Shadow
    I play 4x Push, 1x Terminate and 1x Dismember and I like it so far.
    Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Death's Shadow Jund
    I thought you guys would be interested in this (I haven't watch the video myself yet because I didn't have time but I'll watch it later this day): https://www.channelfireball.com/videos/channel-reid-modern-jund-deaths-shadow/.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Grand Prix Oklahoma City discussion
    Quote from Offhisgame »
    Quote from Ayiluss »
    Quote from Offhisgame »
    Quote from purklefluff »
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    I think most people agree the day 2 GP was an awful mess with an even worse top 8.


    Who's "most people"?

    The crop of decks we saw getting to top 8 was a little unusual compared to the last month or so, but that doesn't make it inherently bad; it's just what we had on the day. Give it a week and the next large tournament will look different. The results are just "the results" I don't think we can project "it was a mess" and certainly not assume negativity from "most people"


    Honestly I love this game. But man does this forum in particular have a TON of whiny people. To be fair I see it from the pros too. Go look at the top 32. The difference between 8 and 32 is basically nothing/luck. In the top 32 TONS Of decks are represented. Control, aggro, burn, combo, etc.

    If you don't like the meta as it is today find a new format. The format is in a GREAT spot. Anyone can win any given match.

    Midrange did very poorly in this GP and at least BGx decks in general aren't doing great either.

    Anyone can win any match makes no sense at all. I mean tell me then how anyone playing a deck like Jund can beat Tron or Titanshift.


    I mean thats a bad matchup, Deaths shadow had some T32 spots and that deck has supplanted BGx alot. Metagames and cyclical and expect more blood moons/land hate at the next gp with a swing back the other direction.

    The point is everything is super healthy and nothing is 'broken' or needs banning. We can't pick and choose our top 32 every GP. Frankly BGx isn't very fun to play in addition to being a bit weak in the meta right now so I am not shocked at all.

    Not being fun is very subjective. I love playing BGx and midrange in general. Also I like watching it a lot and for me it's certainly a lot more fun to watch than Tron, Titanshift and Storm. So to each his own I guess.

    I agree though that BGx is not great right now in general.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Grand Prix Oklahoma City discussion
    Quote from Offhisgame »
    Quote from purklefluff »
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    I think most people agree the day 2 GP was an awful mess with an even worse top 8.


    Who's "most people"?

    The crop of decks we saw getting to top 8 was a little unusual compared to the last month or so, but that doesn't make it inherently bad; it's just what we had on the day. Give it a week and the next large tournament will look different. The results are just "the results" I don't think we can project "it was a mess" and certainly not assume negativity from "most people"


    Honestly I love this game. But man does this forum in particular have a TON of whiny people. To be fair I see it from the pros too. Go look at the top 32. The difference between 8 and 32 is basically nothing/luck. In the top 32 TONS Of decks are represented. Control, aggro, burn, combo, etc.

    If you don't like the meta as it is today find a new format. The format is in a GREAT spot. Anyone can win any given match.

    Midrange did very poorly in this GP and at least BGx decks in general aren't doing great either.

    Anyone can win any match makes no sense at all. I mean tell me then how anyone playing a deck like Jund can beat Tron or Titanshift.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (Rules Update 27/10/17)
    Quote from h0lydiva »
    The top32 in Oklahoma didn't look bad but I truly think the Jeskai decks are just medium and the UR ones a bit worse than that.

    Well for someone who likes midrange it looks bad, for someone who is fine if midrange doesn't exist in Modern it's fine.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Grand Prix Oklahoma City discussion
    Quote from Kathal »
    Quote from Ayiluss »

    I think this was the second worst top 8 in Modern ever, only Pro Tour during Eldrazi winter with 6 Eldrazi decks in top 8 was worse. I expected a lot from this GP, lots of fun watching it and cool decks but I'm very disappointed.

    I hope this was just a lonely example and metagame call because Modern in general still looks fine.

    There have been many "bad" top 8s in history of Modern, however, what "bad" means is subjective.

    PT Philly was also a really wonky top 8, cause 7 hyper linear deck + a random tempo deck (mainly carried by the limited performance too). Heck, while the format back than was hilarious, it was still broken.

    Hence, I wouldn't claim that this was the second worst top 8, but it was one of the worse ones if you mainly enjoy Midrangey strategies.

    Greetings,
    Kathal

    PS: I like synergistic decks, so while I find some decks fascinating on how they work, I still wouldn't want to play them.

    I'm fine if there are different including linear decks in top 8 of such event but I really don't like the absence of midrange decks. There were no midrange decks in top 8 and only 2 GDS in top 32, no BGx decks at all. To me diverse metagame means all archetypes including midrange and this GP definitely wasn't that case.

    I'm not that angry as I am said but that's it. You can't have everythign and Wizards clearly doesn't like midrange (especially BGx ) recently.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (Rules Update 27/10/17)
    Quote from Lord Seth »
    Quote from MarcWizard »
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    This is one of the biggest tournaments that GDS performed very poorly in. I wonder what the problem was---Are GDS decks messing around too much with Opt and cutting the 1x K-Command to blame?


    The problem is tron.
    I don't think Tron is particularly favored against Death's Shadow.

    When I play GDS I'm fine with E-Tron but I've never been happy to face classic Tron. I think it's a rough mu for GDS and I truly believe that large presence of Tron was (one of the) reason(s) to poor GDS performance.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Grixis Death's Shadow
    Well, 10 cantrip spells probably feels too much but I'm not sure about K. Command. I've been playing with 1x K. Command since Opt became Modern legal and it's been good for me. I don't miss the second one in md but I do play second copy in the sb.

    I guess there was too much Jeskai control (draw go version) and classic Tron which are both rough mu's for GDS.I guess this could be the reason GDS didn't do particularly well at this GP-I have feeling there were plenty of it Day 1 but non made good result Day 2. It's interesting that there were no Storm and Affinity in top 8 either.
    Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Grand Prix Oklahoma City discussion
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    I think most people agree the day 2 GP was an awful mess with an even worse top 8.

    It's just one tournament, but if this is where the format was actually heading this would be a huge disaster

    I think this was the second worst top 8 in Modern ever, only Pro Tour during Eldrazi winter with 6 Eldrazi decks in top 8 was worse. I expected a lot from this GP, lots of fun watching it and cool decks but I'm very disappointed.

    I hope this was just a lonely example and metagame call because Modern in general still looks fine.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Grand Prix Oklahoma City discussion
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    Definitely tired of seeing Tron and Storm on camera today.

    I'm a little worried how linear it's looking closer to the top players as this tournament progresses.

    Sheridan, wasn't it E-Tron that you thought was one of the best decks? I said a bit ago it was heavily falling out of favor.

    Big Tron certainly coming back though, only a matter of time.

    We haven't seen too much Grixis on camera. Deck is still consistently putting people at the top 8 of nearly every tournament though

    Agree with everything you said.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Jund
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    I like Sam Black, but I'm glad that Jund player kicked his ass, I don't want lantern decks catching on in modern, it's incredibly not fun to play against

    Completely agree on that.

    As cool player as he is I simply cannot root for Lantern.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Jund
    6-0, eat that lantern.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Grixis Death's Shadow
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    Alyius, I don't think testing out the 1x temur in place of the opt is unreasonable. There is a 5-0 MTGO list who did just that when I was researching how to tweak the deck.

    I was cutting the 4th copy of Wraith for a while and I now think that's 100% incorrect, even if I'm not afraid to cut 1x or 2x a lot after game 1.


    I...have been incredibly underwhelmed with Pyro in my sideboard but I don't think I've tested enough. I tried putting in pyro in some games were it wasn't just a grindy, slow game. Donegan suggested it to be sideboarded in a lot---and I've been massively underwhelmed by it.

    Korie McDuffie seems to have a good formula for the Grixis lists

    I have been on radiant flames, cards pretty good, I have to say.

    I'm not too high on going below 3x stubs in grixis
    the 1x Dismember in 5C and Grixis has been working nicely so far.

    I will try list with 1 Opt and 1 TBR in md. It might be good idea also because this means one less cantrip spell because playing 10 seems too many sometimes. As other said it feels too much air by drawing cantrip into cantrip and doing nothing.

    As for the Pyromancer in sb I tried it after James Foerst played it in Scg Open and it has been underwhelming for me too. It seems like pretty weak threat, especially compared with our other threats but it's possible that I didn't give it enough testing as well.

    I agree that Korey McDuffie's list is pretty well tuned and from lists from the last weekend (Invitational and Open) I like his list the most.

    Lastly I definitely agree on not going below 3 Stubborn Denial in md, as explained this and the fact that I would like to squeeze in (or at least give it a try) TBR I started to think to cut some other card and that lead me to the idea of cutting 1 opt.
    Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Jund
    The number of Ooze depends on the metagame. Right now I think playing 3 is correct because there are a lot of creature based decks running around and Ooze is good against them. It helps you to stabilize the board by gaining life, provides good defense and can put them under a good pressure when you get the opportunity to do so. It has use against Storm and Dredge and other decks that use gy as well. There are of course decks it's bad against but I think currently there are more decks I'm happy to draw Ooze against than the ones I'm not.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Death's Shadow Jund
    Quote from whocansay »
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    How come Andersen and Spicklemire's build didn't catch on?

    (...)

    I'm not disputing temur battle rage and it's power


    I'm pretty sure you answered your own question right there. TBR is completely insane.

    That's it. TBR is too good not to play and it seems that most people have the same minds about this card.

    TBR has won me many games I wouldn't win otherwise and although it serves the same purpose Ghor-Clan Rampager is not the same-it's actually a lot worse.

    I wouldn't argue against their knowledge about this deck and results prove it but playing without TBR is something I wouldn't done. I think we need this card, at least in sb.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
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