• posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia IV: Game Over - Serial Killer Wins
    Quote from Shockwave07 »
    Funny story.

    Either way couple of more things here:

    Just curious what would have happened if I failed to make my posting restriction.

    The other thing, talked to Col_Mongoose, he said his computer went down, so he was guessing he was the lynch target of Day 1! Wonder how it would have gone if that happened. Either way, filled him in on a little.


    If Mongoose had been lynched, the hammerer would've looted the phaser.

    If you hadn't "That's a stupid question." posted twice in any particular day, you would've been modkilled.
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  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    Blacklist seems incredibly extreme. Is there any reason you aren't starting with probation, if anything?


    He did this in multiple games. Had it just been my game, I'd have started with a motion for probation. This goes a bit beyond though & shows a lack of desire to actually interact and play the game in a civil manner. The stuff he was doing was downright toxic & I'd prefer that not to have a chance to happen again.
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  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia IV: Game Over - Serial Killer Wins
    Quote from D_V »
    How many people wrote Cynth as being Auto Town for Fables play?

    I was wondering after Silver popped up not the SK if that was Cynth then or I was just wrong about an SK being in the game. I'm starting to think that SK's wins shouldn't make everyone else loose, specifically when they can have an accelerated win such as double voting.

    Also for Wheat since you said you didn't know who would say on the scum team you were good when Fable mentioned it.

    Quote from DV Maf chat »
    But I would say that Wheat is one of the better players I've ever played with and put him in the top three of town players in this game if not the best.



    I'd thought Cythare was being read as obv!town because the past three Spots were obv!town. If When MU5 happens, I'll have to give that more thought. There was a lot of talk around MU3 of me finally having the balls to make Spot scum, but with that out there, I couldn't just do exactly what was suggested, I had to make it a bit more unpredictable. The damn cat had one too many buffs, even before the phaser was looted.

    If When I start exploratory design on a MU5, I'm thinking the Ferengi planeswalkers and the lootable/transferable equipment mechanics may become deciduous, if not evergreen. Those seemed to be received very, very well, although I'm thinking the planeswalkers may need to trend toward a 2-ability model.
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  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia IV: Game Over - Serial Killer Wins
    Quote from Kosakosa »
    Quote from Annorax »
    and detailing exactly where I ****ed up in design that let Cythare pull off that Exodia of a win.

    Double-vote on non-town plus voteblock = MAJOR chance of ***** happening.

    It wasn't as problematic as Legend of Lucian was, but I think it ended up happening just like it: a cornercase scenario that mods/reviewers dismiss believing it won't ever happen but it does. In this case, the phaser vig (aka SK balancing act) NK'ed N1 and the SK full bulletproofness.

    As others have said, that didn't make the game less enjoyable or damned it (I had tons of fun regardless of the end result), but it's food for thought. Between 5 scum and such an OP SK, I don't think we'd ever win, even without the modkills.


    The idea was that the high level of planeswalker ultimates that would kill or mod-confirm scum would make it somewhat easier to eliminate them, to balance the high number. Didn't work out this way though, plus Tom getting lynched before he could ultimate removed the town's last way of figuring the cat out. The "cat gets the phaser" thing should've been included in the "cat can't use technology" rule that I made after MU2's Spot tried walking on buttons to type on the viewscreen, but didn't think to explicitly include in-game equipment in that. It was just enforced as a flavor restriction to stop the cat from using the Universal Translator to effectively lose the post restriction; that I think was the fatal flaw in this setup.

    And the permanent bulletproof.

    I actually think the double vote wasn't anywhere near as much a problem as the cat being able to use the phaser or the bulletproof not being 1-shot.
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  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia IV: Game Over - Serial Killer Wins
    Setup draft - Ignore the roles in red; those were in an early version of the setup, but were removed for balance reasons. They would've keyed off the same flavor Weyoun did (Millennium), which I'd hoped would lead to someone actually reading the books (or at least Memory Beta) and realizing what the hell would lead Weyoun to claim Kai. I was considering holding these back for MU5, but with a major continuity-changing miniseries releasing next month and Star Trek: Discovery likely to start airing before MU5 would make it into a queue, I'm going to leave them in for your dissecting pleasure.

    Action log
    Spectator thread
    Kosakosa's Borg mason thread
    Wheat/Killjoy's O'Brien mason thread
    Scum QT


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  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    I'd also like to request that I be removed from probation Smile
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  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/forum-games/mafia/446908-mafia-hosting-sign-ups-hosting-rules?comment=1111

    Reiterating here for the Council's attention: I'd like to request a blacklist for TappingStones.

    I had to disqualify him from ST:MU4 for severe unsporting conduct after he'd repeatedly trolled his way into three infractions and a forum suspension. He was also modkilled in Mind Screw for similar behavior. This kind of disruption can ruin games & I think the Council should consider stopping it from happening again.
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  • posted a message on Mafia Hosting Sign-Ups & Hosting Rules
    Star Trek: Myriad Universes IV has ended in a Cythare, Serial Killer victory.

    Ghosting (Nakamura) was denied signup due to probation status and a potentially game-ruining incident in one of my previous games.
    Necarg was replaced for inactivity.
    Yomako requested replacement.
    Rhand was replaced for inactivity.
    DotArchon was replaced for inactivity.
    Brinatoo requested replacement, but died before being replaced.
    Wheat_Grinder was replaced for inactivity (explained by a mod error with the PM), was replaced by Seppel, who was himself replaced by Wheat_Grinder returning to the game.
    Seppel replaced in & was replaced out for inactivity (may not have seen the PM)
    TappingStones was disqualified (modkill pre-empted by lynch) for severe unsporting conduct including multiple troll infractions (and a forum suspension triggered by those infractions) in the game thread. My understanding is he was modkilled in Mind Screw at roughly the same time for the same issues, so rather than a probation request, I'm just going to come right out and say Blacklist requested.
    Zinger2099 was modkilled for inactivity (no replacement available.)
    Killjoy was modkilled for inactivity (no replacement available.)
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  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia IV: Game Over - Serial Killer Wins
    Quote from Teia Rabishu »
    Quote from Kosakosa »
    And if she's indeed bulletproof, then I see no way she would ever lose the game.


    Yeah, Rax and I realized partway in that the bulletproof should've been one-shot, not permanent. There should also probably have been another check on the SK, too. We did our best to balance out such a complex game, but if something wound up a bit overtuned, then you have my apologies.


    It was that way early in the design phase, but a few changes made at the review stage led to this as a balance thing, which we completely botched. I'd say this is worse than the Spot from MU1 Frown

    Between this and the ending putting Q on a rapidly exploding bus, I'm seriously considering ending the series here. Is it time to say "it's been a good nine years of this series, time to move on?"
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  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia IV: Game Over - Serial Killer Wins
    Quote from Teia Rabishu »
    Fable, D_V, CFC, Half_Time, and Shockwave.

    The full setup will come once we've got it in a postable format, which should be later tonight.


    I have to make a store run, then I'll be sanitizing the setup document (removing things that were lazily left in there after reviewers told me to pull them from the game, so that I'd be able to find them when I go back to the well for MU5), adding some flavor annotations to explain things in more detail (KoD's claim, for example... I'd bet $100 that none of you guys have read the book I pulled that from) and detailing exactly where I ****ed up in design that let Cythare pull off that Exodia of a win.
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