If his general is Omnath, Locus of Mana how is he wrecking your life with Grave Pact/Dictate of Erebos/Butcher of Malakir and infinitely reanimating his cards? Or is his general someone else (like Meren of Clan Nel Toth), and he just uses tutors and recursion to quickly find and stick Omnath?
Mega-ramp is tough - Sounds like the other issue is Omnath mega-ramping into Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger which allows him to vomit his whole hand out while grinding you guys to a standstill.
For that, you need removal that is extremely mana efficient. In Rakdos, that would be Tragic Slip, Snuff Out, Dismember (early on, at least), and possibly Devour in Shadow. Combine all that with graveyard hate to prevent nasties like Vorniclex from coming back again (again, free is good - Tormod's Crypt) and you can shut down his nonsense and play a normal game.
You could also talk to him out of game, as it sounds like his deck is just way beyond what everyone else at the table is playing with. But if he's jamming black cards in a monogreen deck, that's not allowed and is against the entire point of the format.
- Registered User
Member for 7 years, 10 months, and 21 days
Last active Wed, Dec, 13 2017 19:54:50
- 1 Follower
- 1,391 Total Posts
- 258 Thanks
Dec 12, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Yeah, I'd build it like some sort of Affinity/Eggs/Paradoxical Outcome combo/Edric, Spymaster of Trest hybrid list. Like...
Leaves you room to include an assembly package for contraptions, or to double-down on the combo, or to double-down on the aggro.
Dec 11, 2017I have given a ton of thought to Mardu Dash Attack, and I can almost see it in a dash deck. I mean, the Dash deck can instead be permanently stealing things with Confusion in the Ranks, dealing massive damage with Purphoros, God of the Forge, Outpost Siege, Bontu's Monument, Pandemonium, Warstorm Surge, and Extort cards, drawing cards off of Mentor of the Meek, Hazoret's Monument, and Bygone Bishop, making tokens thanks to Oketra's Monument, Spirit Bonds, Minion Reflector, and Flameshadow Conjuring, or just swinging in with them and a nice bonus to power/toughness thanks to Mantle of Leadership, Ambuscade Shaman, Ogre Battledriver, Cathar's Crusade, In the Web of War, Goldnight Commander, and Boltwing Marauder, but...maybe sometimes you want to tap their commander?Posted in: Commander (EDH)
In truth it is bad, but at least in the above list it combos with Deathbringer Liege for an impromptu assassinate? Nope, I got nothing.
Dec 8, 2017Hawk7915 posted a message on List your favourite "go big" commander. Nothing else.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Dec 5, 2017The idea of a Zurgo Helmsmasher "Dash Tribal" deck seems really fun to me. You can do surprisingly great things by having your creatures bounce onto and off of the battlefield (Confusion in the Ranks is hilarious with Dash, as is Pandemonium and Warstorm Surge, although sadly most trolls are right out.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
If you really want the Commander to be an Orc (almost all the Warchiefs have been), Sek'kuar, Deathkeeper is your lone option and I think he works as a stand-in for Thrall. Wort, the Raidmother and Saskia the Unyielding feel closer to Thrall's actual effects as a Shaman, but are more of a stretch.
I think if you want to be Jund, Tana + Vialsmasher is the most powerful thing you can be doing but Sek'kuar is fine too.
Dec 5, 2017Hawk7915 posted a message on Very Cryptic Command has Multiple (Randomized?) PrintingsOh wow. This is truly the greatest gift in the history of Magic. This set is brilliant and MaRo is a mastermind to keep this under wraps the whole time.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
The release event this weekend is going to be total and utter MAYHEM.
Dec 4, 2017I like the sound of "artifacts matter" more and more. A rough skeleton:Posted in: Commander (EDH)
That's just a skeleton. Win cons:
- Make infinite mana, using Paradox Engine + Ancestral Statue with mana rocks and reducers, or Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth, or Cloudstone Curio + any two artifacts that are sufficiently cheapened. Use this for whatever you should desire.
- Get Ancestral Statue to cost 0, then cast it infinite times. This can either kill everyone (with Aetherflux Reservoir, or gain arbitrarily large amounts of life (with Leonin Elder, or draw the library (with Riddlesmith), or get arbitrarily large amounts of 1/1 flying thopters with Efficient Construction.
- You may be able to win off of Aetherflux Reservoir without Paradox Engine, using Paradoxical Outcome or Hurkyl's Recall with enough reduction effects and mana rocks.
- Contraption deck not included, but Optical Optimizer and Auto-key are probably among the most exciting contraptions to get out there.
Lots of combos and synergies and nonsense here, and lots of room to double-down on it. With a low curve and a ton of mana rocks, Calcutron helps draw to nonsense and ensures you are ready to rebuild after a wipe.
Dec 4, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)Quote from illakunsaa »
This is not a commander rules question. Maro is the unrules manager so he decides on the unrules. Whether Calcutron is actually legal as commander is legal as commander is little questionable to. If you go to gatherer and look up Ordinary Pony's rules text it has been errated to prevent the infinite loop. The grand calcutron has no errata.
Quote from Ertai Planeswalker »
EDIT: Suspend might actually work with this as it allows you to free up space in your hand at very reduced costs.
Suspend doesn't really work. You can suspend stuff but you can only cast the first card of the program. This means no casting spells from exile, command zone, library or graveyard.
To quote Mark Rosewater:Quote from Mark Rosewater[/card »
vedalkensamurai asked: Does The Grand Calcultron prevent players from casting cards using flashback?
No. It controls what order cards can be cast from the hand.
So that actually means that Suspend, Flashback, Cycling, Madness, Retrace, and Rebound are INSANELY powerful with this, as it lets you have more flexibility.
I think Calcutron is best used like Recycle - the "program" part of it is mostly flavortext but makes answers awkward, while the "draw back to 5" is a powerful enabler for any deck that wants to spam cheap spells. I can see it enabling a very "eggs" style plan, where you vomit artifacts onto the table and always have a hand.
Dec 1, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)Quote from LouCypher »Timmy, Power Gamer
With the news about Silver Border cards being legal for a month and then some, I figured let's put in one myself in here so you all know what you can look forward to.
Timmy is not on the RC's list of "Stuff to watch out for" unlike his brother Johnny, mostly because his colour doesn't allow him to be AS broken as him. Worth noting that it's also not a cast trigger so while you can cheat out big Eldrazi, the effect is probably better on your Worldspine Wurms and stuff like that. There's plenty of fat in Green that appreciates being Quicksilver Amulet'd in...and with Seedborn Muse and Patron of the Orochi, things can get nutty real fast.
Side note; one of the guys in my LGS plays an illegal Timmy deck, even by the standards of Un-sets. He plays all colours and only "Giant overcosted cool fatties", but runs it from only forests and Chromatic Lantern, in order to cheat out things like Leviathan. It's hilarious, and folds tremendously if you can keep Timmy out of the game, but he doesn't play it often (in fact, pretty rarely) so it doesn't get stale.
Glad you are doing this!
This guy is ultimately underwhelming as a legal commander. We have stuff like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds and Azusa, Lost but Seeking legal now for all our ramping needs, and they aren't nearly as reliant on creatures. They come down faster, are slightly more resilient, and have less of a maintenance cost. While Timmy, Power Gamer may have the more reliable and explosive turn 5 Worldspine Wurm (or other 10+ mana fattie), I'd take the other two almost every time. This goes triple now that so many of green's best fat monsters have "X" in their cost, and so many colorless ones have "Cast" triggers that Timmy can't activate.
For flashing stuff in, I'd generally prefer Yeva, Nature's Herald but it's a closer fight. Yeva's better if you are running small value creatures or want your Commander to be able to pick up a sword and win via commander damage, while Timmy is better at cheating out large monsters and avoiding countermagic. As a legal commander Timmy is mostly only unfit for blackborder because of his name and art - they could print this today and it'd be fine but not exceptional.
Dec 1, 2017Hawk7915 posted a message on Top Silverbordered Cards to Play (and not to play!) in EDH: White EditionI am generally excited and fascinating by the RC's decision to allow uncards in commander. It's unprecedented, unbelievable, and unthinkable, but here we are.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
I thought I'd throw together some suggestions of cards to try, and cards to maybe just not. This change seems scary and gamechanging, but in truth the vast, vast majority of cards in unsets are unplayable, overcosted, or gimmicky. This is true of the old sets because they're, well, old: Shivan Raptor doesn't really hold up as a legitimate creature, and neither does Standing Army. For Unstable, many cards are designed for limited as that was the dev team's primary concern, and as we know from other modern designs that means like 80% of the cards are trash outside of draft.
That leaves us just a handful of cards that I think you'll legitimately be seeing. For all my lists, as one other note, I will not be mentioning "contraption", "host", or "augment" cards. Don't get me wrong, I think we're going to see a TON of contraptions in the next 45 days. The issue is that the mechanic is so insular and parasitic that it doesn't matter if I think Aerial Toastmaster is super mediocre - there are not enough assemblers to not run all of them in a 99 card format.
Let's get on with the show:
Top 6 Cards to Try: These are cards that I think are fun, creative, powerful, and do cool stuff without breaking the game any more than it already is. These are cards I think you'll be seeing a lot of this month, so brace yourselves. These are also cards that, if you want to experiment, I think will do good work in a wide variety of decks.
HM: Jackknight and Amateur Auteur: These cards are barely not black-bordered printable. Jack Knight gets a look for all artifact-heavy decks that want to go wide and win with damage (some Breya or Sidri builds, Jor Kadeen, etc), especially if contraptions are part of the plan. Amateur is a card we’ve seen a billion times before, but this is the first one I think that is human which might matter to someone like Alesha, Who Smiles at Death.
HM: Ordinary Pony, Adorable Kitten, and Augments - these things do powerful things if you Augment them. They are parasitic enough that you basically HAVE to run Dr. Julius Jumblemorph, but it could be fun and look at that art! Ordinary Pony is honestly not that far off a fair reasonable card without any Augments if you are looking for more EtB Flicker cards in your white decks.
6. Lexivore: White doesn’t get repeated removal like this often, even with restrictions. You need to build well to break the symmetry, but do not it says ANY damage so Viridian Longbow is a go to start the mayhem. Ultimately this card is interesting and I like the deckbuilding constraints but it isn’t insanely powerful or worth auto-slamming in existing decks, and it isn’t quite powerful enough to build around by itself.
5: GO TO JAIL - Frank Karsten did the math and on average this is going to be a six-turn time out. Obviously your luck may vary, and can be manipulated in the right deck, but generally speaking for most enchantment-loving decks this is a nearly-strictly better Journey to Nowhere that has a fun element of surprise to it.
4: Wordmail: This seems so innocuous compared to the crazy broken sauce, but for most voltron-esque Wx commanders this is an easy +3/+3 or +4/+4 for just W. Count the words: Bruna, Light of Alabaster (4!), Uril, the Miststalker (3!), Alesha, Who Smiles at Death (5!), Zur the Enchanter (3!), Sigarda, Host of Herons (4!). It’s a slam-dunk include for any deck that wants to attack with its commander regularly. Just don’t try it on Eight-and-a-half-tails; hyphenated words are treated as all one word :(.
3: Rules Lawyer: This does not do what you think it does. It’s a TON of reminder text to basically make it so that you are protected by a Platinum Angel effect (mostly, note it won’t save you from Felidar Sovereign, Laboratory Maniac, The Cheese Stands Alone or Baron Von Count) and all your creatures are basically immune to damage. You and your cards are NOT protected from “Destroy”, “Exile”, “Sacrifice”, or “Shuffle” effects so most removal still wrecks your day. You can keep 0 loyalty planeswalkers around though, and that’s insane as it makes them irremovable and you can keep on “+”ing no matter how low they go. Keeping around creatures that drop to 0/0 from Black Sun’s Zenith is less exciting, but interesting as it allows you to possibly save them later and they can still chump block forever. Even ignoring that, this is a five mana Platinum Angel with relevant typing, and I’m sure it’s worth at least testing out; the interaction with Planeswalkers is especially spicy.
2: By Gnome Means: This card is slow and expensive, but man is it exciting. It gives any of your white decks their own Ghave, Guru of Spores effect and combos just as well as he does with Cathars' Crusade. The real sauce, however, is the second ability. The obvious use here is to ramp up how quickly you gain Loyalty counters on planeswalkers, or Age counters on opposing Cumulative Upkeep cards, or Charge counters on cards that need them. The more interesting thing to do is to use this to distribute -2/-1 counters as you wish (thanks, Contagion), and give your creatures +2/+2 counters at will (thanks, Baron Sengir). This card is powerful, interesting, and creative, tempered by being expensive enough that it's hard to truly go infinite. I call that a silver-bordered win.
1: Do-it-Yourself Seraph: I am sad this isn’t called Do-it-your-Seraph, but whatever. This card has some things in common with recent Johnny-dreamboat Mairsil, the Pretender. It is more fragile and a different color and can only get artifacts and can only be in the 99, but many all-star pick-ups for good ‘ol Mairsil are good here too: Staff of Domination, Trading Post, Gilded Lotus, Basalt Monolith. Because she copies text, several cards you WANTED to be good with Mairsil are also good here - Rings of Brighthearth, Thousand-year Elixir, Akroma's Memorial. Color shifting also means having access to Sphinx of the Steel Wind in Esper and Scourglass in all lists. And then there’s the crazy stuff, like cheating in Gleemax or even more “tame” things like the gametext of Possessed Portal, Darksteel Forge, Blightsteel Colossus, or Nullstone Gargoyle. For my money I want to give it some way to get tons of charge counters quickly like Angelheart Vial or Sun Droplet or Shrine of Loyal Legions, and then totally abuse stuff like Clearwater Goblet, Lux Cannon, and Altar of Shadows. For any W/x deck with artifacts on the mind this is a great card and a kill-on-sight target.
Cards NOT to try: These aren’t banned, but for the next 45 days and possibly longer I’d strongly, strongly, strongly encourage you to think carefully, talk to your playgroup, and try to follow Wheaton’s law and not be a dick. These are cards to use with extreme caution...or not at all. If you are afraid of the silver borders, these are the cards to ask opponents about, specifically, before play and have a talk about.
Charm School and I'm Rubber, You're Glue: I mention these cards not because I find them overly objectionable (although Charm School is on the borderline as an extremely efficient and low-cost Story Circle/Teferi’s Moat-style effect) but because they are silly and not worth the hoops compared to playing those more reliable effects. For “I’m Rubber” in particular, you need to have that rhyme game on point for this to not just fail when you need it not too in a way that Seht’s Tiger, Ivory Mask, etc would not.
Cardpecker and Save Life - I’ll echo the rule’s committee's concerns - these cards have potential for collusion and misery in a way silverborder and EDH isn’t meant to encourage. These are the least objectionable of the effects but even so, I’d think very carefully before unleashing this evil on your playgroup.
Look at Me, I'm R&D - I know, I know, you are really excited to say “1” is actually “0” and then make everyone even more miserable than usual with Humility and Godhead of Awe (while also killing off all 1/1 tokens forever). But please, just don’t. There are certainly legitimate uses of this card - make all “1”s into “2s” to make your token army much much scarier, but the amount of troll uses greatly outnumber the legit ones. Please use responsibly.
Frankie Peanuts - MaRo is the Un-rules Manager and has ruled that you can’t use clever wordplay to force opponents to do things that require actions outside of the game. So saying “Will you say ‘yes” to the next question I ask you?” can be a cute way to propose to your significant other, but it will NOT allow you to force opponents to concede the match, or to buy you lunch, or to give you their Expedition fetchland, or to do even more...unsavory...things. Sadly, those rulings are buried in Blogatog, and I know many of you want to try it. My advice - don’t. There are, again, legitimate uses here - “Will you counter the next spell I cast? Will you attack me this turn? Will you tap all your lands this turn?” but I think the line here is too blurry for this card to ever be fun and not game-grinding miserable.
Dec 1, 2017Hawk7915 posted a message on Most Silver Border Cards are now Legal in Commander until January 15thI see this as more a trial run; if people have fun with it maybe Silverborder is in EDH to stay.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
You are right that some cards are just broken, but Spike, Tournament Grinder does nothing as "Sideboards/Wishboards/Your entire collection" cards still adhere to the rule of only fetching cards in Exile for Commander unless your playgroup socially rules otherwise, and there's no way to get banned cards into exile when they can't be in anyone's library to begin with.
This really puts Social Contact to the limit. If your playgroup has someone who intends to The Countdown is At One-ception the table for 20 minigames, or use Frankie Peanuts and "Gotcha!" cards to make everyone's lives miserable, that's something you should talk to them about like adults, just as you would to the player that plays Ad Nauseam Tier 0 combo decks that kill on turn 1 or 2.
It also puts the ability of average playgroups to understand the rules to the limit, as I've seen lots of people already assume that Baron Von Count allows you to hit people (nope) or that Rules Lawyer, cloned by a Sculpting Steel, means you and all your permanents are 100% invincible (it doesn't, as State Based Effects aren't what allows Doom Blade, Vandalblast, or Swords to Plowshares to wreck things, so your opponent will still have lots and lots of outs), or that if you More or Less a dice-rolling contraption like Boomflinger it creates a "divide by zero" stalemate (MaRo has clarified you take averages and do your best).
Nov 30, 2017Edgar Markov is the new hottness. Play a low-to-the ground, predominately black curve. Can snowball out and then use something like Coat of Arms, Shared Animosity, Mirror Entity, Vampiric Fury, Kindred Charge, Vampire Nocturnus, Bloodline Keeper or Cathars' Crusade for a quick kill. Can also kill "out of nowhere" with Sorin Markov or feeding the army to Ashnod's Altar and then casting a Torment of Hailfire for X=15+. It may not look like enough damage, but guys like Sanctum Seeker and Malakir Bloodwitch will drop opponents into lethal range fast especially when you play a Vampire every turn and get a second for free.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
A sample skeleton:
That's only 60 cards I believe, so you have room to just add more 1, 2, and 3 mana vampires or to double down on a light subtheme like "sacrifice for profit" (more sac outlets and payoffs like Grave Pact, Blade of the Bloodchief, etc), lifegain matters (with Tithe Drinker and the Exquisite Blood/Sanguine Bond love connection), some grindy toolboxes with Sunforger, tutors for consistency, or just some resilience to blowouts using Patriach's Bidding,
Nov 30, 2017This is a surprisingly powerful effect despite the weird wording. Great in thief decks. Requires some care and timing, but it can be used to "borrow" removal, steal targeted draw, or just mess up their main phase plans.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Being an instant opens it up to Isochron Scepter and Torrential Gearhulk abuse; there are stronger things to do but it is very very funny.
Also, you can ruin folk's lives if they are using Phyrexian Tower or Lake of the Dead or other sacrifice lands.
Nov 30, 2017Every time I see WotC do something that feels silly, like the "Cycle or Discard" text, I remind myself of my first few weeks playing Magic. I was 11, being taught by a 12 year old, in a time before internet access was readily available. Among our most classic blunders:Posted in: Commander (EDH)
- Congregate initially couldn't target yourself, as you were not "A Player". It was obviously designed for team games, it's in the name!
- Once we cleared that nonsense up, we then decided that that meant that Hunted Wumpus put cards from its owner's hand onto the battlefield too for...raesons. That was clearly overpowered and hard to beat, but hey, our only Hunted Wumpus was foil so maybe it was meant to be so much more powerful than every other card ever printed?
- Counterspell couldn't counter creatures, artifacts, or enchantments - it was basically Negate to us.
It's easy to forgot as a highly enfranchised adult player that this game is also played by kids, newbies, and folks of all stripes.
- To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
Nov 30, 2017Hawk7915 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemPosted in: ArticlesQuote from GreenJobTzar »See your number one shows why the costume people are immaterial to the community, they only show up at high level events, therefore with CS gone, nothing was lost. No one is cosplaying at my kitchen table or any other. Saying someone playing dress up makes someone buy an intro deck is such a leap of logic even the worst digital marketing hack wouldn't try it.
And your number two, couldn't agree more. Harassment's just not happening at the players playing with cards level that people think it is unless one thinks social media reflects reality. Try going to you local LGS and be a salty POS. People will play the games for an event, but you're not going to participate much beyond pay to play.
If your LGS is rife with rape jokes, name and shame bruh. Can't find Jeremy doing it, though most of his content isn't great, but would love a link.
Fair that we've gotten pretty far into the weeds here. My LGS seems generally great, my wife hasn't run into issues there and has generally bowed out because she hates limited and we're too poor for constructed. I haven't seen much/hardly any of Jeremy's stuff. I've seen a few of Christina's pictures on WotC's social media page but this whole scandal is the first I've really heard of both of them. They'll be gone, and there will be new cosplayers and scumbags to take their place.
I do think there's room for improvement and inclusion, because data says that something like 35-40% of players are women, but only 1% of serious tournament players or even casual "weekend warriors" are women. Some of that may be legitimate gender and cultural differences, but some of it is almost certainly that women feel unwelcome at local FNMs. It doesn't take the extremes of rape jokes and threats to scare 'em off.
Still, we're way off the issue here. It seems like we're both generally in agreement that being civil is good and that we're here for the larger issue and have no actual buy-in on the individuals involved, and I concede that cosplay is a poor/nonexistant marketing tool as it's pretty niche even among nerds. I do think they should be treated with respect, but fair enough that paying cosplayers to come to events like Hascon is probably money better spent elsewhere (like on fixing Gatherer or improving development or getting mainstream press attention).
Nov 30, 2017Hawk7915 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemPosted in: ArticlesQuote from GreenJobTzar »That begs the question, what special accommodations need to be made for non-majority people? As far as I saw from 95-201X, none, but my group and LGS doesn't do any language policing, though we did make fun of the guy with waifu lands until he stopped using them.
I would say the people who demand things non game related do affect the game. Beyond salaries paid by wizards for content managers and other community management roles, money that could be spent on more RnD, better quality product and tourney prize support, we've already seen calls for wizards to pay adults to play dress-up.
So yes people who want to enjoy the game differently are detracting from the game by sapping finite resources. One could say they are growing the pie, but a worse product (ICM and other recent sets) is shrinking the pie more.
1) MaRo doesn't lie, and has repeatedly noted that "casuals" - folks who play for costumes and stories and flinging cards around their kitchen table - are the major audience of Magic the Gathering by a vast, vast magnitude. Super serious players who play professionally, and even semi-serious players who grind FNM every week, are an overall minority of the player population. It is THEIR enjoyment that funds the serious R&D to grind out good products and develop a game that rewards good play at the highest levels. While the recent Standard issues are likely in small part due to overtaxing the development team to serve a story team, the ability to hire new developers and refine/improve R&D with the Play Design team is due to the ever-growing sales from that story change, which has been a huge success for MtG's primary consumers.
2) I don't see why not hitting on people, commenting on their body shape and appearance, or "joking" about rape is an undue and unreasonable accommodation to expect in a professional setting, if you are dead-set on being the very best player beating the very best opponents. If your pleasure comes not from winning but from getting to be a dick to your opponents and drink their tears, you are at odds with the intent of the game. The author, and most female/colored/disabled players, are not asking you to treat them like Kings and Queens. They are asking you to treat them like adults and fellow players.
Nov 30, 2017Hawk7915 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemPosted in: Articles
There is also a public policy issue. We want humans to live in the US, interestingly enough. For that, we need people to, you know, mate! Unwanted advances are sad, and when made repeatedly, are in fact harassment. One-off failed pickup attempts are not, and punishing them will lead to more introversion from an already-introversive group. Should we not be encouraging players to date each other, rather than making women at Magic events sacred cows??
I can accept a middle ground: flirt with tact. At a bar, grossly creeping at a girl results in a drink tossing. At a card event, perhaps a shove? But banning that behavior is wrong.
I get what you're saying, and am all for tact. The point of the author, and many other eloquent folks in this thread, is that it is never "just you" playfully flirting and dropping it if she says no or says nothing. It is every. single. opponent. Every single time. My wife usually made clear she was with her husband, and got creeped on the few tournaments she has been to back when we were just engaged and long-distance so she was attending alone. The fact that it is a constant barrage from all parties means even the guy who says "Hey, you're cool, that game was great, let's get coffee sometime" (which I'd consider to be respectful, tactful, and focused on positive qualities instead of just having sex ASAP) can feel pretty unwelcome because you are in fact the 10th guy to proposition her that day. The truth is that the far too many men are NOT that tactful and respectful, and I get that's because they're nervous and awkward but that is a reason and not a terribly compelling excuse.
Nov 30, 2017Posted in: ArticlesQuote from Kryptnyt »That's fair. I didn't know about any Wolfenstein outcry. If there's flamethrowers in that game, it makes a lot more sense I guess. I still don't think Nazism has anything to do with cosplay however.
Yeah, I spend a ton of time on AV Club and most of my friends are hyper-liberal so I saw some of it. There is a legitimate phenomenon of making a tempest out of a tea kettle so I'm not sure how widespread the outcry REALLY was, but it was widespread enough to vaguely ping my radar so I understood that reference. Considering how fresh, and not well-disseminated, the reference is it would probably be good to edit the section to clarify.
Nov 30, 2017Posted in: Articles
Context matters, so consider my post to be "unsolicited pick-up lines that clearly make the recipient uncomfortable" since sure, you might be flirting and it makes sense to drop old gems like this - but also, if all your pickup lines relate immediately to sex with someone who's just there to play Magic, perhaps you should find a few new ones. THAT's the overall point, really, of my thread here - many here are saying "just let me play cards, this is a game, leave politics and identity out of it", then defending dropping cheesy pick-up lines and trolling for sex with their female opponents who are also just there to play cards. You can't have it both ways. It can't just be a game when it makes you comfortable, and be about your out-of-game needs and wants when it makes you comfortable too.
I opted for a clean example in the interest of not getting a warning or infraction.
Nov 30, 2017Posted in: Articles
I know it's a tough line sometimes, but the issue here is that your privilege to be left alone ends when you harm someone else. If you say "hey, you look great in that dress but it'd look greater on my floor", your female opponent calling you on it or reporting you to a judge for unsportsmanlike conduct is no longer a "Thought Police" issue, it is an anti-harassment issue. Treating people with respect, decency, following the golden rule, etc, shouldn't BE a political issue, and the point of the article is that if you take this as an attack on your personal beliefs and politics, perhaps it is time to do some real soul searching regarding those beliefs and politics.
Nov 30, 2017The full, in-context quote is:Posted in: Articles
"It should go without saying that if you feel personally attacked when someone denounces the Nazis, you ought to take a good, hard, long look inside yourself to find out where that Nazi sympathy comes from. And then you kill it with fire from a good, old-fashioned, American-made M1A1 flamethrower, a fine weapon responsible for killing many Nazis in the actual World War II."
In context, she refers to killing "those feelings of sympathy" with fire, and there is no advocacy of violence against Nazis. "Kill it with fire" is a common turn of phrase, and is here directed entirely as a metaphorical fire-bombing of negative attitudes some may possess, internally.
The "shoot Nazis in Normandy but not New York" bit is specifically referencing the outcry over Wolfenstein's recent release, which a handful of conservatives decried despite Wolfenstein being a long-running series predicated on shooting the hell out of Nazis (something it has in common with many, many, many other Triple A shooter titles on the market), as the context of a Nazi-controlled US still featuring Nazi-shooting was apparently too close to home for some. I admit the messaging is muddled by the long gap (she mentions the game in paragraph one, and the line, with no reference to the game, in her final paragraph), but there is no advocacy of violence here. An edit to make it clear she's referencing Wolfenstein: The New Colossus, however, may be beneficial.
Nov 30, 2017I suppose I can appreciate the desire to "face only the strongest". Christina doesn't even play so that's whatever. I would challenge the assumption that welcoming women, people of color, disabled people, etc to the community somehow will give you less worthy opposition. I'm also not sure that folks who enjoy the game differently (for its art, costumes, flavor, etc) should be made to feel unwelcome or be treated poorly when they won't ever dilute your tournament experience or environment.Posted in: Articles
Nov 30, 2017I find it interesting that many posts here are to "keep politics out of my escapism". I understand and empathize with the sentiment. I come here to get away from the horror show that is modern politics and news. I generally prefer to tune out and avoid confrontation.Posted in: Articles
Here's the thing though; folks like Christina and the author are "bringing their liberal politics into your game" because you, or folks like you, started it.
I am a white man, so I have a limited perspective on many things, but I am also disabled and in a wheelchair. I have 100% had folks talk...real...real...slow to me, or make cracks about "feeling bad beating up on a cripple" at tournaments. I've let it mostly roll off my back or taken them aside and gently told them that that is very uncool of them, as my physical disability does not overly impact my cognitive functioning and it's a bit insulting to assume othewise. Are my opponents who do this immune to criticism? Am I injecting my "SJW politics" into the game by correcting them, or by posting this?
I would hope logically you'd answer "no, that's all fine and fair" - but then why is it wrong for Christina or Alexandra to similarly share their perspective and defend themselves? I would personally not have been as violent or blunt as the author either, but as someone who can only generally imagine what its like to be treated as "less than" every. single. minute of the day, since I get treated as "less than" a few times a week, I also don't really have the right to tell someone that their anger or protest is inappropriate. We can't endorse a community that does stuff like ask women "are you hear with your boyfriend/husband? You look GREAT in that dress. Are you free later? Do you know how to play? Do you just play for the pictures? Are you just doing this for attention from men?" AND also say "whoa, calm down lady, it's just a game" when they get upset at that treatment.
Nov 30, 2017I was a bit nervous about the title here, but this article was dead-on. Many here are quick to say we need to protect valid criticism, but that wasn't the issue here. Christina didn't leave because of "criticism" - it's not like people were telling her she got the colors wrong or ought to have used metal instead of foam on her costume or she should switch to "Urban Decay" for makeup because it doesn't look as tacky and smeared after being in costume all day, or whatever and she couldn't take it. She left because of persistent harassment that crossed the line from respectful criticism to personal attack. The defense of criticism is a borderline non sequitur - it's like leaping into a discussion of how to prevent arson by adding "hey, just remember, roasting marshmallows in your backyard is great though. Let's just remember that some fires are helpful and maybe be a little easier on the arsonist, okay?"Posted in: Articles
The fact that there are so many comments here on MTGS are in defense of Jeremy, or a leap to "if you tell me I can't do as I please to others you are the oppressor and problem!!!!" is as depressing as it is utterly unsurprising. You hit the nail on the head. If you choose to spend your days protecting and defending Nazis, Fascists, rapists, misogynists, and internet trolls, even if you yourself feel you are NOT a Nazi, Fascist, rapist, misogynist, or troll, you can't be surprised to find that you are unwelcome in private communities due to the company YOU have chosen to keep, and the hill YOU have chosen to die on. You really should take a long, hard look at why you feel that this is the side you want to be on if you are uncomfortable with the labels that it entails.
One of the great lies of the 20th century is that all opinions are equal and sacred, that your ignorance is as valuable and valid as my knowledge, and that there is no objective truth. You are absolutely entitled to the opinion that Jeremy is right, that Christina is a crybaby, and that perhaps to go further, women are objects for your amusement or should only wear things that conform to your standards of beauty. You are also entitled to the opinion that the Earth is flat, but that isn't going to help you pass an Astronomy class or leap off the edge of the planet, and you are entitled to the opinion that gravity is a lie but that isn't going to let you take to the air on your own power. You're entitled to the opinion that all medicine is quackery and all nutrition is part of a conspiracy - take a decade off eating healthy and visiting doctors or taking any medicine and get back to me on how you feel. And you will face criticism by those that actually study, learn, research, and listen instead of forming a snap opinion based on their personal, anecdotal, and frequently privileged evidence. That criticism 100% means you will face consequences for sharing the opinions that underline and define Nazis, Fascists, rapists, pedophiles, and misogynists around the world.
I'd say that's the only misstep here. I am not calling you a Nazi - but your spirited defense of them is cause for concern and says a lot about your underlying beliefs and attitudes. If being lumped in with someone that, 10 years ago, we almost all agreed was synonymous with "punchable jerkwads and universal villains" is making you feel discomfort, perhaps it is your beliefs, and not my connecting of the dots, that is the problem.
- To post a comment, please login or register a new account.