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I think we'll get at least one general for each color combination that are 4 colored and cost CMC of 4. I also think we'll get one that has hybrid mana or at least colored activation costs.

There's no reason to make each of them CMC 4.
They're already above the threshold for Tiny Leaders,
so there isn't much to gain by forcing a CMC on them.

That said, I'm sure a couple of them will cost 4,
but I'm also fairly sure we will see some which cost 5 or more.

This is a false assumption.

Firstly, the commanders could be ANY color and ANY cost!!

For instance, you could have a legendary elf that costs one green mana, but his abilities have the other three colors, thus giving him all 4 color identities

Cmon guys, think outside the box here

lmao whoops.. guess being at an angle it looked regular. my apologies

is this a troll post? Because theres also two deretti in that pic and you didnt mention it in your post unless it was an oversight. are you sure you didnt just buy two decks and list it like this? just wondering cause that is a pretty huge sorting error if true

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Your lack of tags is probably going to make most people look away and ignore this.


What are you primary win conditions? I mean, I see some but I also see a lack of Pain effects. You only have 3 cards including your commander that actually hurt the opponent from drawing. Maybe I just play the deck differently.

I put tags but they didn't work also posting from an iPhone so it's a dot difficult to do that..

Main win con is mind over matter / temple bell. If you have nekusar out you kill the table, if you have Leyline of the void out you exile everyone's library

Bloodchief ascension / mind crank is another win. Bloodchief gets activated in one turn cycle in a four player game with nekusar out

Spiteful visions / underworld dreams is basically a second and third copy of the general .. The damage stacks quickly


soooo... not really sure why the card tags arent working. I put the tags before and after each line so not sure whats going on with that. help?

So after a lot of fun play testing, I've come up with this monstrosity of a deck. Not only is it fast and powerful, but it's super fun to play and win with. So please send all comments and criticism! There's a ton of things and many different combos this deck can accomplish so I'm not even gonna list them. If you're confused about a particular card or interaction just ask!

Vengeful dead + phyrexian altar + gravecrawler

Sacrifice grave crawler to phyrexian altar for one black mana. Vengeful dead triggers. Use your black mana from phyrexian altar to re-cast grave crawler. Do this till opponents die. Smile

I have a very similar deck to OP.. This list has a lot of trouble against aggro or creature heavy builds.. Even with 3-4 board wipes, spot removal, counters, etc...

Any luck testing with pillowfort effects ie propoganda, meekstone, etc ?

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That's kind of spooky that two of the most desirable cards are missing... Is the sol ring/command tower/opal palace/legends in there? Maybe your box was tampered with.

No every other card is there for each other deck, and the whole box was sealed with the 5 decks inside... Idk , guess I'll contact wizards customer service

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Just checked Bant and Esper and neither are missing any cards.

Are you sure it isn't stuck to another card? Mine is right below Survival Cache.

The only issue I've seen so far is that the lids to the deck boxes are in kind of rough shape for something I've just opened. Bant is really bowed out along the long sides and Esper has tears along where it was folded on the inside.

No, survival cache is the last non-land card :-(

Just realize there's no "tempting whatever" also

I bought all 5 commander sets , but the esper deck was missing toxic deluge!! Wtf?? Anyone else missing any cards ?

Maralen + mindlock orb is better

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Ya, what TDizzle said. My head is still swimming with possibilities, so let me try and figure this one out. I'm thinking Tainted Strike and Glistening Oil are good for this deck as replacements for the discard enchantments, which I was not a fan of. Grafted Exoskeleton is a bit on the expensive side, but it's also a must-answer. I'll think about it haha. That way I can focus on burning through drawing cards. I'm also going to add in Time Reversal. I was doing some test hands last night, and I'm lacking density. Running all the Forks in the world and not hitting your Wheels means nothing. This deck has a few confused card slots that are only useful half of the time. IE: Yawgmoth's Will is awkward because half of the time your GY is shuffled into your deck; all top-of-deck tutors don't really work out for you while you're going off if you draw nothing but Twister effects; I'm running too many Forks, getting rid of Increasing Vengeance; and lastly, again, the discard-based enchantments are hit and miss.

Also:
Phyresis
Corrupted Conscience

IMO this is what you should be running :

Wheel effects and helpers::
Libraryof leng
Words of waste
Wheel of fate
Wheel of fortune
Reforge the soul
Forced fruition
Windfall
Wheel and deal
Whirlpool warrior
Whispering madness
Jace's archivist
Time reversal
Time spiral
Memory jar
Teferi's puzzle box

You guys are missing a HUGE thing with nekusar... Giving him INFECT. It makes your clock 4x faster!!

Glistening oil
Grafted exoskeleton
Tainted strike

Think about how fast you can wheel kill them now...

You can power this deck up significantly, just use these few cards to add and you'll be kicking ass in no time, with a little setup :

1. Have phyrexian altar in play

2. Play Living death ( with 5 creatures in yard, one being eternal witness and another one being one or more of the follow : kokusho, gray merchant of asphodel, acidic slime, Woodfall primus, sylvan primordi, or terastodon)

3. All your creatures come back into play. ETB effects trigger. Use eternal witness to return the living death to your hand.

4. Sacrifice all 5 creatures to phyrexian altar to make 5 black mana. Use it to re-cast living death. Now, all your stuff comes back into play again. Use the eternal witness trigger to return living death to your hand.

5. Repeat until opponents are dead or concede

Pros : infinite activations and ETB triggers while not being labeled a "cheap" combo since it takes a little setup

Cons : susseptible to nihil spell bomb and friends ruining your graveyard after the first living death. Hold back a counterspells/stifle effect just in case

Let me know what you think!! I came up with this combo , though I'm sure it's probably online somewhere

Interesting idea, but your explanation of cards is laughable, at best. Offense intended. For instance, you mention that green doesn't need sylvan library? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Yes I am basing my judgment on that one statement. Sorry