Technically does neither of those things, but Ixidron for creature control
Island dependent one from JOU is Scourge of Fleets
Exploit bouncer is Profaner of the Dead
Havoc Demon + sac outlet is a wrath
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Jul 25, 2017Weebo posted a message on Kederekt Leviathan and other massive bounce/destroyPosted in: Commander (EDH)
Jul 25, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)
I've had the most success with it in spellslinger decks. Ditching ramp spells or small filtering effects to reuse haymakers does some damage. It's a little more of a toss up in creature lists, but I'm still not too sad to ditch a mana dork for something higher impact late game. It is very much a late game card and a little bit of a pet card, so I cut it some slack when it's bad.Quote from Incanur »As you would expect, I adore Holistic Wisdom's art. Sadly, I didn't find it effective in the format when I tried running it years ago. How do you use the card?
I've toyed around with decks in TappedOut with cycling lands and Rings of Brighthearth where it seems pretty good, but haven't actually built those.
Jul 25, 2017In no particular order and presented with minimal comment because I'm lazyPosted in: Commander (EDH)
Rings of Brighthearth
Crucible of Worlds
Sword of the Animist
Archangel of Thune
Greater Good: Specifically the foil 9ED printing, which is my favorite card ever printed.
Instants - I tried to pick more interesting ones than just removal, but I love inexpensive spot removal as well
Dig Through Time
Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
Daretti, Scrap Savant
Jul 24, 2017I ran it in Olivia, Mobilized for War reanimator. Discard outlet for reanimation (that could also be reanimated) and the deck could dump its hand quickly to turn on attacking/blocking. It was OK. Not terrible, but not spectacular. I had a great moment using Bazaar of Baghdad "fairly" to empty my hand after dropping Hazoret to swing, which was probably the most memorable play with the card.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
I still like it a lot in theory. I'm unlikely to run it often because of my aversion to being empty handed.
Jul 21, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Still works. It's instant speed so you cast it after declaring attackers but before blocks.Quote from Dunharrow »It's weird, this card. You can't topdeck it and swing out well, since it taps your creatures too.
Instant speed and low CMC makes this decent in the right deck, but it's a very narrow subset of decks mostly consisting of aggressive decks containing blue and not using many flying creatures. Anti-blocking and preemptive fog could be a lot worse. Generally worse than Cryptic, which describes a lot of cards.
Jul 18, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Group in this context doesn't have to be a set play group. If you walk into a shop and sit down at a table, that's the group whose opinion on the topic matters. If the shop has a strict no proxy policy, your options are to either abide by that or not play. If everyone else at the shop plays 100% proxy decks and you're strongly anti-proxy, you either get past it or don't play. Your personal stance on proxies can affect who you're playing with. The opinions of anyone on this forum/reddit/twitter/whichever other online community has no impact on that.Quote from ajprokos »what if they do not have a group? as they bounce from store to store, should their stance on proxies not matter because they can't choose who they play with?
Jul 18, 2017Don't play proxies, don't mind playing against them at all. Like a lot of the format, it's always going to be a group dependent question. Opinions of internet strangers are meaningless when you sit down for a game.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Jul 18, 2017I've had some truly terrible ovens, but my stovetops have usually been consistent. Luckily I'm not big on baking.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Legacy perks: I'm looking at building a bomberman deck and I can pick up almost everything I need for several variants including SB under $10. Modern and standard ruin things a little thanks to Mishra's Bauble (which is actually worse than Lodestone Bauble here in a lot of ways) and Walking Ballista, but even with those I could have everything I need for under $150, which isn't too terrible as MtG decks go. The initial buy-in is super painful but but the format is great once you get past that.
Jul 17, 2017Weebo posted a message on Red Evasion - or - what can we do to punch someone's face with an army?Yuan Shao, the Indecisive was mentioned above but not linked, if you're feeling spendy or proxying (and not playing on MTGO, apparently). Combos with the more plentiful menace effects to get true unblockable.Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Of the anti-blocking stuff, I like Bedlam and Barrage of Boulders the most. Wave of Indifference costs more but is frequently enough.
Archetype of Aggression is mono-R mass trample.
Jul 11, 2017Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
When I last tried Koth, I never really liked his first two abilities. He seems too low impact if he doesn't survive around the table. I like to evaluate walkers without their ultimate because that reflects typical use. The walkers I run can typically be treated as modal spells with potential to do more and Koth isn't very impressive by that standard.Quote from Driemer84 »Have you ever had Koth of the Hammer in your 99? If you have control of the board he ultimates fairly quick and if not, he can provide a significant mana boost late game.
It's definitely solid if you find yourself hellbent on a regular basis. A lot of my card choices are made to avoid that scenario, so it's taking an increasingly valuable utility land slot for a relatively uncommon situation.Quote from Driemer84 »Sea Gaate Wreckage is another card I may try. With all the discarding it's pretty easy to go hellbent. And unlock Geier Reach Sanitarium, it actually nets you a card.
Jul 5, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)
Sure. Most of your posts here haven't been talking about this general in particular though. You're saying that cat tribal is only good at turning sideways, cats don't have anything to offer beyond tokens and combat, cats have been underdeveloped in the past, and you don't understand why a one-dimensional tribe like cats was chosen. My post is a direct response to those points, defending cats as a tribal choice, not your feelings on the spoiled card we've seen from the deck.Quote from cyberium_neo »As I mentioned posts before, I don't mind having less-than-prominant tribals so long as it covers up more than just one aspect of the tribe. This particular general is narrow in design and only takes care of a single facet of cats, sums up in one word: Combat, I hope other legends in the deck explores the rest of the themes further.
And as I said, the deck might change my opinion.
Jul 5, 2017Posted in: Commander (EDH)
There are 150 cats, 114 in GW, going back through the entire history of the game. 383 zombies and we already have multiple zombie tribal generals. I'm glad to see some variety rather than one of the big tribes getting rehashed for the umpteenth time. I'm also not sure why you think cats can do nothing but attack. There are numerous cats with heavy artifact themes, particularly equipment, lifegain themes, hatebears, even one with an enchantress effect. If there's any complaint about cats, it's that they don't have enough of a focus as a tribe. We've also only seen a single card from the deck. It's way too early to form any judgment on it.Quote from cyberium_neo »I love tribal, but because Cats were underdeveloped in the past it feels underwhelming when it's chosen, and I cannot think of anything beyond combat after combat, unlike say Zombies which could have a milling them, or burn theme (such as Tymaret, the Murder King). The deck itself might change people's opinion (myself included).
I also prefer legends who could inspire more than one deck style.
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