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  • posted a message on Karn, Jhoira, and Teferi to appear in Dominaria
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    Well, unless they respark Teferi somehow, he is unlikely to appear as a planeswalker in Dominaria.


    At this point, I don't think it would be too hard for them.

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    And was Lily and Ajani ever confirmed for Dominaria?


    Neither was officially confirmed to get a card there, but Ajani went there to get allies against Bolas and those leaked booster mock-ups of Amonkhet and Ixalan way back when had Ajani on one of them, which implies that he's getting something in the near future.

    I can see Liliana being on Dominaria if for no other reason than it's her home plane, and she needs to re-evaluate her life choices.


    So, basically, neither has been confirmed in the slightest, and people are just projecting. Smile


    Do you really want to make a similar mistake to what you did with Liliana on Innistrad?

    Ajani being on Dominaria is something that's very likely to the point that it'd be surprising if he's not there.


    I am still of the opinion that Lily didn't make sense on Innistrad. She quite literally had just killed half of Thraben and then some. Sorin should have been out for her blood, and not in the vampiric hunger sense.

    But yes, until we have confirmation that Ajani and Lily are in Dominaria, we should assume they are not. Particularly considering that we have two confirmed returning planeswalkers already: Jaya and Karn.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Karn, Jhoira, and Teferi to appear in Dominaria
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    Quote from krishnath »
    Well, unless they respark Teferi somehow, he is unlikely to appear as a planeswalker in Dominaria.


    At this point, I don't think it would be too hard for them.

    Quote from krishnath »
    And was Lily and Ajani ever confirmed for Dominaria?


    Neither was officially confirmed to get a card there, but Ajani went there to get allies against Bolas and those leaked booster mock-ups of Amonkhet and Ixalan way back when had Ajani on one of them, which implies that he's getting something in the near future.

    I can see Liliana being on Dominaria if for no other reason than it's her home plane, and she needs to re-evaluate her life choices.


    So, basically, neither has been confirmed in the slightest, and people are just projecting. Smile
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Karn, Jhoira, and Teferi to appear in Dominaria
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    Who's Jhoira?

    1/10, would not Christmas again.

    She's the central figure featured in Tinker and a handful of cards from Urza's Legacy onward throughout the Weatherlight saga in card art and flavour text, among other things.

    If it's a legendary theme, then here's hoping for Grandeur as a recurring mechanic! I wonder if Dominaria will have a gimmick like Time Spiral with timeshifted cards but in a different theme. Maybe that might be our "Masterpiece" bit for the set.

    'buster


    God, I hope Grandeur doesn't make a return, it's a very poor mechanic that makes legendary creatures useless in the one format that actually cares about legendary creatures. Even MaRo has acknowledged that in its current form Grandeur is unlikely to return.

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    3.) Will Teferi still be a lowly legendary creature?


    While we saw him spark-less last time, we see other walkers get a new spark or reignite their old one and with his popularity I'd say that more likely to happen then not.

    Which lead to wonder how many walker we going to see since people had guessed;

    Liliana B
    Ajani GW

    and it looks like we'll see;

    Jaya R
    Teleri U
    Karn C


    Well, unless they respark Teferi somehow, he is unlikely to appear as a planeswalker in Dominaria. And was Lily and Ajani ever confirmed for Dominaria?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Christine Sprankle and Harassment in the MTG Community
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    Not really much to add to the discussion. Any form of harassment and bullying is horrendous and should be dealt with by the proper people, be they WotC, YouTube, and/or the authorities.

    Also, not entirely unrelated. Jeremy is in violation of YouTube's community policy regarding hate speech as outlined here and he can be banned from the site because of it. He may be able to delete the videos so they can't be seen, but google saves everything.


    I looked at the reporting options and it seems to be focused on comments instead of reporting video content. It does infer video content, but how exactly do we report it? Shocked


    Once you are logged in on YouTube you should see three dots under the video ( ... ), click on it and you can report the video for various things, like it being in violation of your IP, or as is the case with him, harassment/hate speech.
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  • posted a message on Christine Sprankle and Harassment in the MTG Community
    Not really much to add to the discussion. Any form of harassment and bullying is horrendous and should be dealt with by the proper people, be they WotC, YouTube, and/or the authorities.

    Also, not entirely unrelated. Jeremy is in violation of YouTube's community policy regarding hate speech as outlined here and he can be banned from the site because of it. He may be able to delete the videos so they can't be seen, but google saves everything.
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  • posted a message on The RESERVED Elephant in the room
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    While I can't say for certain it was Negator, I can say for certain it wasn't the Mox, Wizards closed the loophole before the public knew that Mox Diamon was going to be reprinted, so it couldn't have been the Mox people were upset with. The only known cards when the outrage started was the previewed Masticore and Negator. It wasn't about value, it was about availability of the card, limited releases added very few cards and people were fine, the unlimited release of Negator set a dangerous precedent that people were unhappey with.

    Fair enough, must have my timelines wrong, I was pretty new to magic around then.

    I wish we had more info on this hush hush deal, but most of what I can find is MaRo saying he isn't allowed to say anything about it and random speculation.
    There is no info on any deal(there may or may not have even been one), but there is Wizards' official announcement where they say they previewed the cards and the 'community' said it wasn't cool and so they changed the policy. Its very difficult to track down any specifics but I vaguely recall a lot of buzz about how them mass printing a RL card was bad.


    Basically, around (I think it was eight edition, but I am not 100% sure), WotC wanted to reprint Clone in the core set. Unfortunately Clone was on the reserved list, so they basically asked the community if they could remove it and a number of other cards from the reserved list. The vast majority of the community was totally fine with this, and a lot of cards, mostly uncommons (as Clone had last been printed as an uncommon) were removed. Basically. It was around the time of "You make the core set" promotion they had, were the community had input on the next core set (Each day we got to vote on two cards, the one with the more votes by the time the next poll came up got printed in the next core set, the other wasn't. It was mostly commons and uncommons though. Mostly.)
    That is all true, we were discussing a completely different event. When wizards closed the loophole on premium reprints,


    That was a combination of Phyrexia Vs. the Coalition (Phyrexian Negator), FTV:Relics (Karn, Silver Golem and Mox Diamond) and a single person throwing a hissy fit. Mind you, a person who admittedly had not played the game since Urza's Saga and didn't give a frigg' about the game.
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  • posted a message on Announcing Magic The Gathering: Arena
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    If the only thing you value is currency, yes you are right. If you value anything else, than, no.


    How is playing one videogame any different than playing another in the measurement of time? Not at all. You play whatever game you find entertaining, be it MTG:Arena, Civilization 6, Pools of Radiance, WoW, or any other game. But unlike most other games, Arena won't cost you money if you don't want to spend money. Everything will be available to be achieved in game without spending a cent. Now whether or not you will be entertained by the game, that is entirely up to you, but simply dismissing it and being negative about it for no apparent reason doesn't paint you in a fair light. If you are going to be negative about something, at least explain your reasoning other than "It's not MODO therefore it sucks" or "It's a copy of Hearthstone, therefore it is bad". We know nearly nothing about the game, and pretty much all they have told and shown us are good things.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The RESERVED Elephant in the room
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    It wasn't Mox Diamond. People didn't know Mox Diamond was going to be printed when the outrage hit Wizards. The outrage came from Phyrexian Negator and Masticore. My understanding from the time was that while people were happy with the random judge foil or other possible limited released cards, they were upset that a RL card(negator) was going to be in a 'print to demand' product(duel deck). I don't recall anything with lawyers actually happening but its possible.

    Really? I remember a lot of hubub around Mox Diamond. I know people weren't a fan of Negator getting reprinted but it wasn't a big money card so most people let it slide and were kinda ok with the loophole, Mox Diamond seemed like the card that really annoyed people and led to the loophole being closed as it was a much higher value card that was seeing play.
    While I can't say for certain it was Negator, I can say for certain it wasn't the Mox, Wizards closed the loophole before the public knew that Mox Diamon was going to be reprinted, so it couldn't have been the Mox people were upset with. The only known cards when the outrage started was the previewed Masticore and Negator. It wasn't about value, it was about availability of the card, limited releases added very few cards and people were fine, the unlimited release of Negator set a dangerous precedent that people were unhappey with.

    Fair enough, must have my timelines wrong, I was pretty new to magic around then.

    I wish we had more info on this hush hush deal, but most of what I can find is MaRo saying he isn't allowed to say anything about it and random speculation.
    There is no info on any deal(there may or may not have even been one), but there is Wizards' official announcement where they say they previewed the cards and the 'community' said it wasn't cool and so they changed the policy. Its very difficult to track down any specifics but I vaguely recall a lot of buzz about how them mass printing a RL card was bad.


    Basically, around (I think it was eight edition, but I am not 100% sure), WotC wanted to reprint Clone in the core set. Unfortunately Clone was on the reserved list, so they basically asked the community if they could remove it and a number of other cards from the reserved list. The vast majority of the community was totally fine with this, and a lot of cards, mostly uncommons (as Clone had last been printed as an uncommon) were removed. Basically. It was around the time of "You make the core set" promotion they had, were the community had input on the next core set (Each day we got to vote on two cards, the one with the more votes by the time the next poll came up got printed in the next core set, the other wasn't. It was mostly commons and uncommons though. Mostly.)
    Posted in: Baseless Speculation
  • posted a message on Grandeur could return in Dominaria
    Grandeur is unlikely to return because WotC (and MaRo) does not want to use a mechanic that will make a large number of players (specifically the Commander community) unhappy.
    Posted in: Baseless Speculation
  • posted a message on Announcing Magic The Gathering: Arena
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    If there is ever a single digital MTG client, it will be because they phase out MTGO, not because they stop making Duels/Arena. Duels has been too successful of a new player acquisition tool for them.


    Right. Duels should have been the new frontend in the first place. It's been so weird seeing them rebuild the wheel all from scratch over and over again over the decades.

    Considering that Arena is going to be free, I don't understand your complaint, at all.


    Nothing is free.

    From the player's perspective, it's going to end up discontinued like Magic Duels. Some are fine with that kind of transience in their investment, some aren't.

    From a developer's perspective, it's like watching a carpenter hammer nails into his hand all day.

    There's a minor moral imperative to pause briefly and suggest "You uh, probably shouldn't do it like that" before passing on by.


    If you don't have to spend money on getting it, or in any part of it, then yes, it is by definition free.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Hascon IMA (And Ixalan) Spoilers Thread!
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    Rishadan Port. Wow, that brings back memories. That card would be rather broken in modern right now. Actually, it would be one of the most annoying weapons against tri-color decks because locking them out of even one of their splash colors can be pretty nasty.


    You do know you can activate the fetch land in response, right?
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  • posted a message on Announcing Magic The Gathering: Arena
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    I really hope that there will be the chance of getting all the cards in a reasonable amount of time/play-time like in duels and that they won't just port the "want cards? destroy your old ones or pay us money hoping to get what you need" system from heartstone.
    I enjoyed collecting cards in Duels because every pack meant that I was getting card I didn't have and not just getting tons of junk to destroy in order to create an actually useful card like Heartstone does.
    There needs to be some overlap here. While it's harder to complete a collection in Hearthstone, it was harder to get individual cards for deck building in Duels (a problem that got infinitely worse for new players the longer the game was around). There are ways to cut down on duplicates in packs -- Hearthstone recently changed packs to prevent duplicate legendaries, and similar happened with all items in Overwatch loot boxes -- so it's not a problem strictly inherent to the overall system.

    At the end of the day, getting some duplicates is a necessary evil that makes it easier for players to build the decks they want to build. As long as Arena can implement some amount of duplicate protection, make breakdown/crafting rates not absurd, and allow players to keep cards they pull in Draft or Sealed, the HS method is ultimately better for everybody than the packs-only-no-duplicates method from Duels.


    Speaking of this, one thing they need to implement in Arena is properly sized booster packs, this six cards to a pack crap needs to stop. Give me a proper booster with fifteen cards. I don't friggin' care if I only get one rare and three uncommon, just give me a properly sized booster.

    And for sets that have smaller boosters (if they decide to eventually make old sets available in Arena), make them the size that the real boosters were/are.

    Just this small change would be a major step up from Duels.
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  • posted a message on Hascon IMA (And Ixalan) Spoilers Thread!
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    If Force of Will, Tarmogoyf, Dark Confidant, Cavern of Souls, Snapcaster Mage, and Argothian Enchantress are all mythic then so will Rishadan Port. Not because it's powerful, but because it has a big price tag.


    Doubt it. Unlike Rishadan Port, the other cards you listed are actually really, really, good.



    Actually, Rishadan Port is at least on par with all of them.


    Nah, it lost a lot of power with the sixth edition change, and more when mana burn got removed. You're basically mana depleting yourself to reduce your opponents mana by one for a turn, and that is if they don't chose to cast an instant in response. It's an over valued card that isn't all that good.


    You don't actually play this game, do you?

    I do, but unless your opponent is playing a land that taps for more than one mana, you are using two mana to deprive them of one.
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  • posted a message on More creatures may yet become Dinosaurs - come Rivals of Ixalan
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    Despite what Kelly said I think ashen firebeast will still have a chance

    Because there's probably people their who probably will disagree with his "too weird" thing.


    I certainly disagree with it. It's a friggin raptor, that is on fire. It's no more weird than a sauropod composed of burning rock, or a dinosaur in a symbiotic relationship with a fungus.


    That's what Kelly thinks about ashen firebeast

    I think ashen firebeast deserves dinosaur type easily. It has a theorpod body easily.


    Indeed. His reluctance makes me believe they have a set in the pipeline where it is reprinted. It'd be a little weird if the change it to Elemental Dinosaur and then release a set wherein it is a Elemental Beast.


    I know is there something wrong with calling it "elemental dinosaur beast?"


    I don't believe there is.
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  • posted a message on Hascon IMA (And Ixalan) Spoilers Thread!
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    Ah okay, I was looking at some spoiler sites and they had only posted images of some of the cards that got opened. I didn't notice that there was an entire list already published as well. Rolleyes

    Great, now I feel like I just got caught with my hand in the cookie jar. Laughing


    Even better, they'll be posting a visual spoiler early next week. MaRo said that he believes it is released Monday, but that he wasn't 100% sure. It may come as late as Wednesday, but it will be released next week.
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