MTG Salvation

both in really bad 75 card decks that were only running 20 lands

here's to everyone who cracks case after case for their foil force playset

There's a guy who always rubbed me the wrong way at a peasant event that barely could draw enough people to fire. Mind you, these are casual events with like a dollar entry. He would always pressure me, asking me if I was done yet, if he could take his turn, and at one point I just got exasperated "dude, stop asking me every other second... I will signal to you when I am done!".

The only other occurrence that comes to mind was the first time I drafted at this shop I beat a regular customer who apparently really wanted to win, because after the 3rd round of our match he picked his deck up and threw it across the room. It's like "it's ok man, even the best of us sometimes lose our drafts!" Having to console someone in their mid-twenties when they are throwing a tantrum in public is just a bit awkward.

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A common way for people to sell bulk on eBay is to fill up a medium USPS priority box, which holds about 4000 cards. These go from $20-40 + shipping. Another way to go would be Craigslist, which might net you a little bit more as buyers wouldn't have to shell out for shipping, and be able to glance at the cards before purchasing.

I've never looked at draft packs from various sets repacked on eBay, but I suspect that you're really not going to make above and beyond selling for bulk and spend way more time sorting.

Unless you have a website or a store front I think this is all you can do, and frankly I find its more labor intensive than the little profit you can make. There is actually a guy on ebay who stuffs 1000 cards into a flat rate envelope! I tried it with them stacked and it doesn't work so they have to be interleaved and mashed inn basically unsorted. I can't imagine a scenario where some cards won't get damanged in the process this way.


What's worked for me is just flipping the entire thing. Buy 50,000 cards peel off what you can that you can actually get $2+ bucks for per playset and flip the rest of it with a small margin. Since you are selling so many cards at once the small margin actually ends up making it worth your time. And you actually get a little exercise in the process picking up huge boxes. The alternative is mind numbing (literally piecing out the bulk playset, piecing out everything and listing it all on ebay, and while you can make money on it. If you choose to that, it's a numbers game. If you have thousands of listings and offer very low shipping each with multiple quantities so you aren't relisting stuff over and over, and combined shipping you will start to make money off it. You'll start getting people who buy 10-14 different playsets of commons from you in one checkout. To reduce listing fees I was using listings with variations and listing everything from one color of each expansion together into one listing. But again, it's mind numbing. Without a prescription for aderall I wouldn't be able to do it lol. Just an amusing example from my mind. One of the cards I was selling the most of ended up being Walking Atlas, a card as a more serious player I never saw any use for which I would consider pure bulk.

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You can write it on yourself if you have the extra 0.20 postage. I did this about 700 times and simply left them in my mailbox at my house. Only one time did a customer on ePay claim that their envelope had been destroyed in transit. He actually showed me the photograph of the destroyed package. To be safe I'd probably still drop them off at the PO, but I was just setting them up at the counter without waiting in line which still shaved off a few minutes. The woman knew they'd all be non machinable because I talked about it with her before and she cleared me for just dropping it off without waiting to get it stamped or whatever.

My friend, who owns an LGS, actually sends all his cards this way. He uses team bags when sending more than one card. Personally, rather than put tape around the top loader I wrap the cards in a piece of paper and tape that. Never had an issue this way.

I do this for my small Pucatrades and TCGPlayer sales. The nonmachinable thing is MUCH easier to do if you print directly onto the envelope and use these nonmachinable surcharge stamps. I leave them in the mailbox, my letter carrier has no problems with this (even when I've had 10 in one day) & I've never had one get lost or damaged. It does get somewhat expensive paying $0.71 or whatever, but it gives me the peace of mind of knowing the damn thing's not going to get eaten by a sorter & that I won't have an angry postmaster sending me a bill for $200 in nonmachinable surcharges that I didn't pay for up front.

It does add up, but 2.50 for the materials and shipping cost of 000 kraft mailers adds up faster, not to mention drives customers away espectially if you are in a market like ebay. Whenever I dropped shipping down from bubble mailers to the envelopes sales would go up.

I had the 65 cent stamps back when I was selling a lot of bulk. They did not have non machinable surcharge printed on them like that. I just started moving some cards again, so I will have to look into those. Right now I just write it in bold red sharpie at the bottom of the envelope.

Also of interest to people shipping this way: it's 22 cents for each additional ounce beyond the first. Presumably they have 22 cent stamps. Anyhow, i think you can fit about 3 playsets, a toploader, and a few penny sleeves in an envelope and keep it under and ounce.

Another method I've seen but have not tried is cassette mailers.

I really don't think bubble mailers add much more protection than a plain white envelope. They can be bent or shredded just the same. Cassette mailer would probably be the next safest bet.

You can write it on yourself if you have the extra 0.20 postage. I did this about 700 times and simply left them in my mailbox at my house. Only one time did a customer on ePay claim that their envelope had been destroyed in transit. He actually showed me the photograph of the destroyed package. To be safe I'd probably still drop them off at the PO, but I was just setting them up at the counter without waiting in line which still shaved off a few minutes. The woman knew they'd all be non machinable because I talked about it with her before and she cleared me for just dropping it off without waiting to get it stamped or whatever.

My friend, who owns an LGS, actually sends all his cards this way. He uses team bags when sending more than one card. Personally, rather than put tape around the top loader I wrap the cards in a piece of paper and tape that. Never had an issue this way.

i am a long time browser and fan of this thread, so i had to contribute something! you guys all do such amazing work.


i dont really know photoshop, so the edges of where i overlayed the photo onto the scan of the card look too sharp and obviously shopped in!

i think it would be maybe more appropriate on an artifact creature given the mechanical quality of it, or maybe thoughtseize or mind twist with the way the wiring is feeding into the head. not sure how i'd go about getting photo portion of it to look foiled to match the rest of the card.

WUBG company

As a long time fan of dark bant zoo, I threw this together.

It's reasonable. Using refecting pool, the mana base is particularly vulnerable to tectonic edge / ghost quarter but with birds and noble you have a little padding. I'd love to use Ziggeraut but then you couldn't reliably cast CoCo.

4 Noble Hierarch
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 Geist of Saint Traft
3 Verdant Catacombs
3 Misty Rainforest
1 Watery Grave
1 Breeding Pool
1 Temple Garden
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Tectonic Edge
4 Reflecting Pool
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Collected Company
3 Dark Confidant
2 Rafiq of the Many
2 Anafenza, the Foremost
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Forest
3 Kitchen Finks
3 Voice of Resurgence
2 Birds of Paradise
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
3 Tarmogoyf
2 Stirring Wildwood
2 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Abzan Charm
1 Sultai Charm
SB: 1 Kitchen Finks
SB: 3 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
SB: 1 Glen Elendra Archmage
SB: 3 Path to Exile
SB: 3 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 2 Rhox War Monk

what kind of frequency would we expect to see these new art zen duals in a case?

if real this would be amazing, but i am sure everyone already realizes this.

It's great in Narset Turns.

I never really bothered with a lot of the combo decks but was always intrigued by certain combos. I think running through prosbloom can really make you a better player. When I first started running it a couple days ago I was just missing its strenghts and self interactions, and I was losing just about every game thinking how horrible it was. But now I am beating better decks, some of the decks that basically own historical standard. I think the better build is the one with meditate and 4 vamp tutors. Gives you solid toolboxing from the sideboard. The mana engine lets you play an intricate game and it give you reach. Its crazy that you can actually play it missing some of the pieces as well. You don't really need the natural balance but it further deepens your reach. Really amazing deck design. This deck really encourages you to see everything as a resource and to become a more skillful player. There's been games where I am contracting and even meditating very early on, and not even considering it a dangerous move because I know the tempo of the opponent's deck. I am just running it through whatever I can by leaving a historic standard game up on cockatrice. Actually I think it would be playable in a historic standard tournament, probably the one format where it is still playable. Not to mention historic standard is just an amazingly cool format.

I swear this deck still blows minds.

"How in the hell did you just contract twice in a row? You drew 8 cards? .Ragequits.

Well not everyone understood the love for erhnam djinn! it's a variation on a theme!