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  • posted a message on Gods, planeswalkers, archangels, etc.: who's more powerful?
    Quote from Subbak
    Sidenote: the conversation has drifted away from the topic here, partly (mostly?) through my fault. I don't know how to split a thread, and I don't think I can actually do that, but perhaps a moderator could? Thanks.
    A little drift is fine here, so long as it's interesting.
    The environment is not enough to justify a color, or Creative wouldn't have a problem with red dwarves, blue pirates, and green birds. Philosophically, Kiora is probably less blue than Ajani.
    It's kind of a double standard though, in the same way we encounter animals being assigned colors. A lot of times, it IS based on their environment. Merfolk really aren't that much different. Most all of the merfolk do not value knowledge or many of the other blue values and have either run a mercantile empire, or much much more prevalently, have been militaristic sovereignities. The most famous of their numbers, the Vodalian were soldiers and conquerors, not sages or wizards.

    As an aside too, Deceit is actually given as HALF of blue's value. Intellect and deceit, so it really doesn't need black's influence for deception to be prevalent in its core concepts.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on What's the future of Dominaria? (a speculation of where the story can go)
    Quote from Ryu the Reptoid
    MaRo once stated that we would see more from Phyrexia at some point in the future. How much money do you want to bet that a return to Dominara block would thus really be more along the lines of a "return to phyrexia" block, if where ever to happen? I mean, as stated before, Dominara is practically drowning in glistening oil, so IF Wizards wanted to do another block focused on Phyrexia -without- returning to Mirrodin Dominara would be the most likely candidate to do it in. Seeing as we already returned to Mirrodin once, another return doesn't seem likely until many, many years off, so if MaRo said we'd see more Phyrexia, then a return to Dominara would be a very easy way to do it with the fact there is so much oil already present on the plane. In a way, Dominara could be used to do the "phyrexian civil war" plot they wanted to do for Mirrodin 2, as there was so much darn oil on Dominara(FAR more then Mirrodin) that if we take long enough to get back there it could be corrupted completely by the time we get there, transformed into a Phyrexian horror show.(I shutter to think of what the inevitable -phyrexian slivers- would look like mechanically. Poisonous was bad enough on a sliver...heaven forbid we get one with Infect.)

    The biggest flaw is that you make a few assumptions. One of which being that they had planned to have the corruption on Mirrodin be Glistening Oil when they made the statement that Dominaria was swimming in it.
    This was, out and out, a total retcon to the nature of the oil. They would just as easily retcon to say that the oil had been cleaned up.

    The reason why Mirrodin was corrupted so completely was given as the fact that Mirrodin was ideal for the purposes.

    Even then, the next time we see Phyrexia, it's most likely going to be Elspeth's home plane. They've built up the conflict that shaped Elspeth enough that it would be a solid resolution for the plane to be dealt with.
    Also, while Yawgmoth is certainly dead, since his "body" is in Urborg a Phyrexian-ized Dominara could be used as an excuse for his revival and return as a , villain and rival power to Bolas. Would certainly be a way to unite the Praetors of Mirrodin and turn Phyrexia into a truly dangerous, and united faction, to say the least.
    It is never, never, never, never, NEVER going to happen.
    And for the record, all the praetors think Yawgmoth was a gigantic goob. They have nothing but disdain for him because his defeat utterly demonstrates that he was weak, and weakness cannot be allowed in the Glorious Work.
    Lastly, there is not an actual body. Yawgmoth was a giant death cloud, it doesn't leave a body. "Tomb" is being used poetically.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
  • posted a message on Gods, planeswalkers, archangels, etc.: who's more powerful?
    Quote from Tackman
    Quote from hippohugger
    Couldn't a planewalker grab a god and planeswalk while holding them, killing the god in the blind eternities?


    Can planeswalkers even take another being with them when they planeswalk? That seems a little crazy...

    Nope.
    The exact limits of a planeswalker carrying capacity are left purposefully vague. Which is really for the best.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on What's the future of Dominaria? (a speculation of where the story can go)
    Quote from Ryu the Reptoid
    MaRo once stated that we would see more from Phyrexia at some point in the future. How much money do you want to bet that a return to Dominara block would thus really be more along the lines of a "return to phyrexia" block, if where ever to happen? I mean, as stated before, Dominara is practically drowning in glistening oil, so IF Wizards wanted to do another block focused on Phyrexia -without- returning to Mirrodin Dominara would be the most likely candidate to do it in. Seeing as we already returned to Mirrodin once, another return doesn't seem likely until many, many years off, so if MaRo said we'd see more Phyrexia, then a return to Dominara would be a very easy way to do it with the fact there is so much oil already present on the plane. In a way, Dominara could be used to do the "phyrexian civil war" plot they wanted to do for Mirrodin 2, as there was so much darn oil on Dominara(FAR more then Mirrodin) that if we take long enough to get back there it could be corrupted completely by the time we get there, transformed into a Phyrexian horror show.(I shutter to think of what the inevitable -phyrexian slivers- would look like mechanically. Poisonous was bad enough on a sliver...heaven forbid we get one with Infect.)

    The biggest flaw is that you make a few assumptions. One of which being that they had planned to have the corruption on Mirrodin be Glistening Oil when they made the statement that Dominaria was swimming in it.
    This was, out and out, a total retcon to the nature of the oil. They would just as easily retcon to say that the oil had been cleaned up.

    The reason why Mirrodin was corrupted so completely was given as the fact that Mirrodin was ideal for the purposes.

    Even then, the next time we see Phyrexia, it's most likely going to be Elspeth's home plane. They've built up the conflict that shaped Elspeth enough that it would be a solid resolution for the plane to be dealt with.
    Also, while Yawgmoth is certainly dead, since his "body" is in Urborg a Phyrexian-ized Dominara could be used as an excuse for his revival and return as a , villain and rival power to Bolas. Would certainly be a way to unite the Praetors of Mirrodin and turn Phyrexia into a truly dangerous, and united faction, to say the least.
    It is never, never, never, never, NEVER going to happen.
    And for the record, all the praetors think Yawgmoth was a gigantic goob. They have nothing but disdain for him because his defeat utterly demonstrates that he was weak, and weakness cannot be allowed in the Glorious Work.
    Lastly, there is not an actual body. Yawgmoth was a giant death cloud, it doesn't leave a body. "Tomb" is being used poetically.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
  • posted a message on What's the future of Dominaria? (a speculation of where the story can go)
    Quote from Ryu the Reptoid
    MaRo once stated that we would see more from Phyrexia at some point in the future. How much money do you want to bet that a return to Dominara block would thus really be more along the lines of a "return to phyrexia" block, if where ever to happen? I mean, as stated before, Dominara is practically drowning in glistening oil, so IF Wizards wanted to do another block focused on Phyrexia -without- returning to Mirrodin Dominara would be the most likely candidate to do it in. Seeing as we already returned to Mirrodin once, another return doesn't seem likely until many, many years off, so if MaRo said we'd see more Phyrexia, then a return to Dominara would be a very easy way to do it with the fact there is so much oil already present on the plane. In a way, Dominara could be used to do the "phyrexian civil war" plot they wanted to do for Mirrodin 2, as there was so much darn oil on Dominara(FAR more then Mirrodin) that if we take long enough to get back there it could be corrupted completely by the time we get there, transformed into a Phyrexian horror show.(I shutter to think of what the inevitable -phyrexian slivers- would look like mechanically. Poisonous was bad enough on a sliver...heaven forbid we get one with Infect.)

    The biggest flaw is that you make a few assumptions. One of which being that they had planned to have the corruption on Mirrodin be Glistening Oil when they made the statement that Dominaria was swimming in it.
    This was, out and out, a total retcon to the nature of the oil. They would just as easily retcon to say that the oil had been cleaned up.

    The reason why Mirrodin was corrupted so completely was given as the fact that Mirrodin was ideal for the purposes.

    Even then, the next time we see Phyrexia, it's most likely going to be Elspeth's home plane. They've built up the conflict that shaped Elspeth enough that it would be a solid resolution for the plane to be dealt with.
    Also, while Yawgmoth is certainly dead, since his "body" is in Urborg a Phyrexian-ized Dominara could be used as an excuse for his revival and return as a , villain and rival power to Bolas. Would certainly be a way to unite the Praetors of Mirrodin and turn Phyrexia into a truly dangerous, and united faction, to say the least.
    It is never, never, never, never, NEVER going to happen.
    And for the record, all the praetors think Yawgmoth was a gigantic goob. They have nothing but disdain for him because his defeat utterly demonstrates that he was weak, and weakness cannot be allowed in the Glorious Work.
    Lastly, there is not an actual body. Yawgmoth was a giant death cloud, it doesn't leave a body. "Tomb" is being used poetically.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
  • posted a message on Future for Tezzeret
    Quote from Uii
    But does this mean he's technically in some position of power?


    In the same way an ambassador holds a position of power.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
  • posted a message on How old are the planeswalkers?
    Quote from iloveitems92
    Speaking of chests, what happened to Ajani's? He definitely had bigger pecs in Ajani Vengeant. His torso in general is a lot slimmer, he also lost the definition in his abs. definitely looks older, maybe he's losing some muscle.

    Different artist man. No reason to attribute meaning when variance under style explains it.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Uncharted Realms Discussions
    Quote from hairlessThoctar
    @Ral recognizing Jace as a walker;
    As far as we know, there isn't a way for walkers to, by virtue of being a walker, recognize other walkers.
    It's more likely that, Ral, as a native Ravnican, can recognize tourists because of their differences in attitude/dress/accent, etc.

    That being said, Jace and Ashiok can peek into someone's head and see that they are without much trouble.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Future for Tezzeret
    Quote from Uii
    He's not even close to being top dog to the Phyrexians. They didn't like him. He'll probably remain a crony to Bolas for a while.


    Koth and Elspeth speculate that Elesh Norn in particular has plans to see him dead and its only the awkwardness of his position that is both keeping him there and keeping them from killing him.
    In other words, if he pulls a runner, it's officially Tezzeret season.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
  • posted a message on Uncharted Realms Discussions
    Quote from Planechaser
    So Purphoros has a thing for Nylea and Thassa has a thing for Purphoros?

    And Nylea has a thing for Daxos.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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