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  • posted a message on Poor Condition Unlimtied Black Lotus Price?
    Whenever you ask about high priced items like power, pictures are worth a thousand words (and, possibly, dollars).
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  • posted a message on What card(s) do you think will be worth investing now/ very soon in OGW?
    Everyone keeps saying Kozilek's Return is the best card in OGW, but are there any decks actually playing it yet?
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  • posted a message on How safe is it to invest/speculate on BFZ Expeditions?
    Traditionally, the best time to invest in staple cards and reprints is one month after the following set comes out. That's when the supply of the old set is highest and when interest is mostly put on the new hotness and not the old staples. This doesn't account for swings in demand like a new tier 1 deck archetype that emerges using the staples, but for something like expeditions, fetchlands, etc. it's probably pretty safe overall.

    --S
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  • posted a message on ORI Flip-Walkers Price on Roration
    Quote from Hipster Mike »
    Isn't Jace seeing Modern play? Won't that help hold his price? I mean it won't support the $70 he's at right now but I don't see a 50% drop


    His modern play is as 3.6-of in grixis control/twin decks that make up around 5% of the meta combined. A 50+% drop (to $35 or less) is damn near inevitable. There is practically zero chance that he will maintain a price higher than Dark Confidant or Vendilion Clique post rotation when he sees less play than either of them.
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  • posted a message on ORI Flip-Walkers Price on Roration
    According to mtggoldfish's scraping bots, OriJace shows up as 3.9-of in approximately 21% of standard decks. He's a 3.6-of in 4.57% of modern decks, and doesn't show up in the top 50 creatures in legacy. In Modern, he's the #25 most popular creature, sandwiched neatly between Siege Rhino at #24 (5.14% of decks as a 4-of) and Simian Spirit Guide at #26 (4.43% as a 3.4-of).

    Unless something changes, I don't think that OriJace will do anything to unseat his main competition in the two-drop category, which would be Tarmogoyf (24%, 4-of), Dark Confidant (10.29%, 4-of), Spellskite (44.57%, 2-of), and Snapcaster Mage (19.43%, 3-of). Comparatively speaking, new cards like Atarka's Command and Monastery Swiftspear show up twice as often in modern as OriJace does. The numbers we're seeing suggest that he's a big deal in one deck, but that deck doesn't make up a particularly large part of the meta, and that suggests that he's due for a huge crash upon rotation.
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  • posted a message on Will Khans of Tarkir Fetchlands drop in price when they rotate?
    Historically, the best time to buy fetchlands has always been the month that the following set is released.

    --S
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  • posted a message on B4Z Price Drop?
    So here's how it works:

    Every box of BFZ has a baseline value, and that's determined by how much it costs to obtain from distributors. They sell to stores, who turn around and sell them to you, the player. As time passes, there is (effectively) no limit to the number of boxes players can buy because Wizards will just keep printing more.

    We can mathematically calculate how many of each card you can expect to get if you open a large number of boxes.

    So, because there's a baseline price for a box, and we can expect a probabilistic number of each card (even including the expeditions) after opening enough boxes, the base price of the box sets the price of the individual cards of the set. If a card like Drana, Liberator of Malakir jumps in value, she doesn't just gain it out of nowhere. That card will siphon off a little bit of value from every other card in the set in order to rise.

    The expeditions do this too. Because we can calculate how many expeditions you can expect to get per box (it's something like... 1 expedition shows up per case or so. Possibly more.), if somebody is willing to pay $300 for one, that means some card store out there is going to open boxes until they find that expedition to sell. But after opening all those boxes, they have a ton of singles that aren't worth as much, and they have to get rid of them or they'll end up eating a loss on paying for all the packs they opened to find the expedition. Those expeditions are sucking the value out of the other cards in the set.

    So yeah, there's going to be a price drop. People will want certain cards, so they'll open packs. People will look to sell off their less-desired cards just to help recoup the cost of buying those packs. You can expect that most of the lesser cards in this set to be worthless, and even the better ones not to be particularly valuable because of the siphoning effect of the expedition cards. Even the basic lands are more valuable than normal ones, which will also siphon off value from the regular cards in the set.

    Combine this with an set that's generally lower in power level than the previous few blocks and you're looking at a recipe for a handful of very expensive cards and a whole lot of bulk.
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  • posted a message on Special Rarity and the Zendikar Expeditions
    Is the foil mythic chance correct?

    According to the wiki here, Wizards distributes 7 foil card per box. If we go with the equivalent rarity distribution (10 commons, 3 uncommons, 7/8 rare, 1/8 mythic), that would mean that you would get 1 mythic, 7 rares, 24 uncommons, and 80 commons out of every 112 foil-bearing packs. Even if you cut out any foil basic lands (which would dilute this even further), at 7 foils per box, you're looking at 16 boxes per foil mythic - not 6 boxes. 16 boxes per foil mythic actually puts it in the ballpark of the original "priceless treasures" Zendikar print run (1 per 18-19 boxes).

    That said, I'm not entirely sure about that foil distribution. Does anyone actually know? If the chances are lower to obtain an expedition, it would drive their individual prices up, but likely not have much effect on each box any more than the priceless treasure inserts did.
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  • posted a message on Best place to get the most value out of Foil Tarmogoyf?
    Honestly, if you want to maximize the value on a foil tarmogoyf you'd be better off trading it down and trying to gain value through intermittent trades instead of cashing out directly.
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  • posted a message on Battle for Zendikar early speculation
    I wouldn't worry about it so much. There's roughly seven foils per booster box, so if we assume the normal rarity distribution of 10 commons : 3 uncommons : 7/8 rare : 1/8 mythic, you're looking at roughly one expedition card per 112 foils, or approximately one per 16 booster boxes. You can actually compare this to the "priceless treasures" inserts from the original ZEN print run, which was set at around 1 treasure per ~19-20 boxes. All in all, unless there's something that's guaranteed value (maybe the new duals?), I can't really see the expedition cards driving much of anything.
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  • posted a message on Buy all 20 fetch lands now?
    Historically (ZEN, RTR), first-set rare land cycles are at their lowest price the following May. I am going to wait for one more month before buying in.
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  • posted a message on The Running Tally of Dragons of Tarkir [Updated: 5/1]
    Quote from mtgSpawn »
    whats the deal with Descent of the Dragons? third most sold card on mcm and its price reached 5 euro a piece already. was there some pro hyping it or what happened to that thing?


    They're hoping to combo it with tokens and Battlefield Thaumaturge.
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  • posted a message on Theros Block Keeps and Trades.
    Quote from Aranthar »

    Sylvan Caryatid sees play in the now Tier-2 Modern Jeskai Ascendancy decks. There's not the powerhouse they were with Treasure Cruise, but it is alive and well at least at my LGS.


    Is Jeskai Ascendancy really a thing in modern? I usually look to mtggoldfish for a meta breakdown and Jeskai Ascendancy only showed up once after going 3-1 in a single modern daily. Even so.. I don't really think that a spot in a tier 2 deck is going to maintain its value. My verdict for Caryatid is still to dump it.
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  • posted a message on The Running Tally of Dragons of Tarkir [Updated: 5/1]
    Quote from DrewReaLee »
    I really believe Collected Company is a Modern sleeper. I can easily see this card being around the $10 mark if the set pulls a Dragon's Maze in anticipation for MM2. There's a few decks that want it like Zoo and my friend has been playing around with a Junk list that uses it as well. Otherwise the set really looks terrible in terms of value.


    I'm skeptical. Just comparing it to the other CMC 4 cards in modern right now, most of them have a much higher impact on the board. Cards like Splinter Twin, Past in Flames, and Scapeshift will outright win you the game if they resolve. The others, like Cryptic Command, Siege Rhino, Supreme Verdict, have a huge board impact. Collected Company has to compete with those cards in the four-drop slot, and I'm trying to think of what sort of consistent result from resolving one could have as much impact as one of the other cards I just listed. Double Goyf?
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  • posted a message on Theros Block Keeps and Trades.
    Quote from traderjoe »
    What about Sylvan Caryatid and Goblin Rabblemaster? Keep or hold?


    Dump them both. Caryatid sees no play in any format but standard. Birds, Hierarch, and Deathrite tend to edge out the Caryatid in all of the formats they are legal in, and it has to compete with two-drops like Tarmogoyf and Scavenging Ooze for a slot. No chance. Rabblemaster is too slow for burn and doesn't push modern or legacy goblins any further - you always want Goblin Chieftain as your three drop in a goblin deck, so you're looking to fill the 3-drop slot #5+, and you've got to compete with Goblin Matron (tutor) or Goblin King (evasion) for that.
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